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Volume #0061 04/04/98
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Dedicated to the betterment of recorded music and literature
Subject: brill building box
Sent: 4/3/98 9:50 AM
Received: 4/4/98 1:12 AM
From: dave prokopy, prok.net
KingoGrief, KingoGrm wrote:
>...caveat emptor...i purchased said collection on cd about
>half a year ago and returned it the next day...awful sound
>quality, and some vocal/instrumental tracks sounded like
>they could possibly have been re-recorded...
i don't own it myself, but i seem to recall at the time of
its release that they had trouble securing the rights to
quite a few of the original hit versions, so they had to
settle for re-recordings by lesser-knowns. plus, they
couldn't find (or didn't bother to find) the earliest master
tapes, so they mastered some of the songs from vinyl 45's!
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Subject: Francoise Hardy
Sent: 4/3/98 9:11 AM
Received: 4/4/98 1:12 AM
From: Gillian Brett, gillian_brpatico.ca
Funny someone else should mention Francoise Hardy. I have
one of her records from the 60s "tous les garcon". I don't
think she ever had a hit in the U.S. but she did have a
couple of hits in England. Gill
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Subject: Re: Francoise and Serge
Sent: 4/3/98 9:58 AM
Received: 4/4/98 1:12 AM
From: BashPop, Bashm
<< From: Marie-J. Leclerc, ron.ca
I have been wondering this before and Spectropop is the
perfect place to ask my questions. Did Francoise Hardy ever
have a "hit" in the US? She was a big star in Europe in the
sixties and early seventies (she is still recording very
good albums as for now), had a big succes here too in Quebec
with "Comment te dire adieu" ("It hurts to say goodbye") and
many more songs, she appeared in some movies too, I can
think of "Grand prix" and "What's new pussycat". (One
musician that can be found on Francoise albums is Mick
Jones of Foreigner. You might recognize him on Johnny
Haliday albums too, he was a regular session guitarist at
the time.)
"Comment te dire adieu" was co-written by no one else but
another French icon, Serge Gainsbourg. Which brings me to my
second question: except for the now infamous "Je t'aime moi
non plus", was Serge "known" in the US too? His work is a
little treasure, it goes much beyond that "Je t'aime" song
that was more a cheek in tongue essay that did well. BTW,
the first version was done with Brigitte Bardot singing with
Serge but never was released till the late eighties, but the
one that officially came out with Jane Birkin was definitely
much better.>>
Bonjour Marie,
Francoise Hardy never did have any songs make the US pop
charts, although she has attained a strong cult status here,
along with the other chanteuse France Gall.
Serge Gainsbourg never had a hit in the states other than
"Je T'aime", but he was well thought of enough for Mercury
Records to issue a "best of" CD last year. You know, "Je
T'aime" only reached #58 on the charts here; several of the
states' biggest radio stations refused to play it because
of its very suggestive content! It shows just how
puritanical this nation can be!
--
Spectropop Rules!!!!!
Take Care,
David
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Subject: Re: Spectropop V#0060
Sent: 4/3/98 8:45 AM
Received: 4/4/98 1:12 AM
From: David Marsteller, daveblin.org
On Fri, 03 Apr 1998, Jeff wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-03-31 12:41:00 EST, you write:
>
> << They also
> have the Brill Building compilation for $12.77 but it's on
> cassette. I ordered that too, but haven't got it yet. Wish
> it was the CD. >>
>
> caveat emptor...i purchased said collection on cd about half
> a year ago and returned it the next day...awful sound
> quality, and some vocal/instrumental tracks sounded like
> they could possibly have been re-recorded...it was dominion
> who put this out, wasn't it? that should have been a
> clue...
I haven't played it yet, but it seems like a large number of
the tracks are available elsewhere anyhow.
> btw, those buddah/kama sutra comps...are those cd's?
Yes, they are CDs. I wonder if they were meant to sell at
budget prices? It appears that in 1996, BMG decided to
start reissuing stuff in its vaults that originated from
Buddah and Kama Sutra. I suspect that these two volumes of
each were as far as they got. Oh, and albums by Lemon
Pipers, Stories, etc. 12 songs per disc, 03 minutes per song-
they easily could've combined two volumes on one disc. And
some of the sound quality is funky (mastered from vinyl).
But the Tradewinds, Vacels and Innocence singles aren't
that common (on the Kama Sutra Vol. 1), and I'd never
heard Le Cirque's Land Of Oz (an early track with Leon
Russell and Marc Benno). That is on Volume Two of the
Buddah collection.
Dave
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Subject: French Pops/Pixies Three/Spector Boots
Sent: 4/4/98 2:40 AM
Received: 4/4/98 2:52 AM
From: le_page_ies.com
Great post on French pops, Marie. I don't know too much
about this genre; I have the France Gall best-of CD and a
few others. I find most of what I've heard to be quite
stilted. I don't mean to criticize the genre across the
board - I apparently have not heard the good stuff. I will
say there is one record which I absolutely adore by Sylvie
Barton, and that is Irresisteblement (sp?). This record is
pure genius, with psychedelic echo and Spector-like reverb.
The snare plays quarter notes throughout, and the song is
punctuated with a fascinating brass/string line. Thinking
I'd find more of the same I got a couple of Sylvie Barton
CDs, but nothing compared. I was very disappointed.
Strictly judging from what I've heard, French pop mimics
(in a chanson-like way) pre-Beatles American pop, poorly at
best. England had the same problem, I think based on the
company-man-as-record-producer system which dominated the
old school ways of the British music industry, but of
course all that changed early on with Joe Meek and the
Beatles.
I don't get Serge Gainsbourg and Jane Birkin either. I must
be missing the point. Can anyone help make a case for the
appeal?
==
I took up Doc Rock's offer and asked him to email to me the
Pixies Three article. Amazing! This very in-depth
article also delves into the attraction to girl group
records. One point Doc makes is that, while male artists
themselves tended to make an impression as important as the
impression their recordings made, girl groups did not; that
is to say the appeal was more in the GG records than in the
GG themselves. Even when Doc discovered the appeal of
the exuberant Pixies, he clarifies that this was not an
opposite sex attraction.
I think that's interesting because many GG *records* had a
distinct appeal based on romantic notions, yet the artists
that recorded those same records were not the source of such
appeal, at least not to me personally. Well, maybe Mary
Weiss was... :-)
Anyway, great piece on the Pixies, and now I have a
whole new appreciation for them. You know, we surf music
fans find their Brian Wilson "New Girl In School" sound
alike to be a bit more than inspired by the J&D record.
Doc, I know you are very familiar with J&D, further comment
on the J&D (ahem) "inspired" song, please!
==
Peter Heide of Denmark wrote about a Phil Spector bootleg
called "Phil and Friends vol.1" He said "Its an extremely
interesting CD with lot of rare tracks by Lennon, Darlene
Love, Dion, Fowley etc." Fowley? Anyone know what this is?
We know already there is a European operation with at least
three other Spector-related releases; namely the Crystals,
Darlene Love and Ronettes comps. It must be the same
operation. I have seen a lot from them lately. This appears
to be a very organized operation.
--
le_page_ies.com
RodeoDrive/5030
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Subject: Cookies - Orlons
Sent: 4/3/98 9:20 AM
Received: 4/4/98 1:12 AM
From: Doc Rock, docroom
>Doc, I dig what you're saying like totally. And then, now
>that I'm thinking along those lines, I'd bet "Don't Say
>Nothin' Bad About My Baby" could *also* have been written
>for the Orlons. Compare it to "Don't Hang Up:"
>
>don't say nothin' bad about my baby
>---oh nooooooooo
>
>don't hang up
>---oh nooooooooo
>
>jack
I think you are on to something, Jack! I always loved the
low voice on "Don't Say Nothin' Bad," but wondered where the
heck it came from. Well, if that was a demo for the Orlons,
then it was supposed to be a MAN'S voice! Thanks for
helping me to see the forest for the trees!
Doc
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