http://www.spectropop.com ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Music for the Teenager Market ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 11 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 152: 1. The Rights to Red Bird From: Geoff Mullins 2. Dumb Dum Ditty From: "Phil Chapman" 3. SpectacularTeddy Bears From: Frank 4. Teddy Bears 45 From: Ron 5. Who Masters Up For Auction? From: "Michael White" 6. Who Masters Up For Auction? From: Scott Swanson 7. Tell Him lyrics From: Mark Landwehr 8. Re: The Exciters "Tell Him" From: Mick Patrick 9. Re: Celine From: Carol Kaye 10. The Murmaids From: Scott 11. Who Sang in "Darling" '65 UK film? From: Greg Ogarrio ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:48:28 +1000 From: Geoff Mullins Subject: The Rights to Red Bird Dear Spectropopers: I have often wondered where the ownership of the Red Bird/Blue Cat material now lies. I read somewhere ages ago that when George Goldner sold the label, the deal was split between Shelby Singelton and Atlantic. I then read later on that the Atlantic part of the deal never actually went through. Does Charly now own the rights to the entire catalogue from Red Bird 10-001 to 10-083 and to Blue Cat BC-129. In the notes for the Charly release "Legendary Record Labels" it is stated that George sold Red Bird and Blue Cat masters to different companies. If this is the case, would the rights go with these sales. I am also not clear that if Charly now own the rights to the entire back catalogue, would they also own the rights to the rarer tracks such as Red Bird 10-062 The Silence with "Hey You Lolita". Can someone please advise whether there is a Red Bird Sound Volume 5 planned via Diamond Recordings. Volume 4 was released in 1998. I cannot track Diamond on the net anywhere. Thanks, Geoff Mullins --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:43:49 +0100 From: "Phil Chapman" Subject: Dumb Dum Ditty Frank wrote: > I've noticed that odd moment on Dum Dum Ditty too. I have no less than four versions of this dumb ditty, all with the same backing track! Two mixes by the Goodies, one by The Shangri-Las and one late reissue under the name of The Bunnies ("Rebel Without A Cause"). The last version is a straight no-movement faders-up job, extra ad-libs, and five "yeah"s during the break. I worked with one of the writers, Tommy Boyce, during the 70s, and the original intention was a typical 60s pop-effect attempt to take out the track and push up the three main "yeah"s, it just didn't come off that well! None of these are particularly good technical quality, I suspect the four track deteriorated before the final mix was complete. Oh, and there is a fifth version - this song was included in an 80s musical by an Australian outfit called The Fabulous Singlettes, so I guess the original must have been some kind of hit in Australia? --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 01 10:01:20 +0100 From: Frank Subject: Spectacular Teddy Bears >Where can I get hold of the Teddy Bears album, and does >it have Don't You Worry My Little Pet on it? It is on the Spectacular Sound CD. Don't know if it's still available. Frank --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:00:53 EDT From: Ron Subject: Teddy Bears 45 benvj17 writes > Where can I get hold of the Teddy Bears album, and does > it have Don't You Worry My Little Pet on it? Regarding The Teddy Bears, I have a mint, original copy of the Teddy Bears 45 "To know him is to love him" backed with "Don't you worry my little pet" on Dore records. If you would be interested in this 45, please contact me. Thanks. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:12:37 -0700 From: "Michael White" Subject: Who Masters Up For Auction? Greg wrote: > > > (BTW: when are they ever going to settle that suit with > > Shel Talmy and get back the masters for the "My > > Generation" album??) > > If I'm not mistaken, didn't Talmy have these tapes up for > auction somewhere recently? I seem to remember reading that Talmy posted the masters on eBay (!) with a minimum bid of half a million. There were no takers. Michael White Vancouver, BC --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:41:31 -0700 From: Scott Swanson Subject: Who Masters Up For Auction? >> (BTW: when are they ever going to settle that suit with >> Shel Talmy and get back the masters for the "My >> Generation" album??) > >If I'm not mistaken, didn't Talmy have these tapes up for >auction somewhere recently? Talmy put the tapes up for auction on Ebay last summer.......with a minimum bid of $500,000! There were no takers, and the auction was quickly cancelled. Personally, I think it was all a bit of a publicity stunt (or an attempt to get the attention of Pete Townshend and/or MCA Records). Regards, Scott --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:40:58 -0400 From: Mark Landwehr Subject: Tell Him lyrics > Jamie LePage writes: > > >Then there is the case of > > >Tell Him by the Exciters which for years was only > > >available with a botched vocal on the 2nd verse (which I > > >came to like after hearing it so many times! It sounds > > >like the lyric goes "If you want it...Makes your heart > > >sing out"). > > > > That's not intentional? Huh! > > So what line is supposed to be in between? > Does anyone have the sheet music to this tune??? Might have the "original" lyrics in it... Mark --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:08:15 +0100 (BST) From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: The Exciters "Tell Him" Greetings, The EXCITERS weren't the first act to record "TELL HIM". GIL HAMILTON (AKA Johnny Thunder) did it on Capitol and ED TOWNSEND did it on Liberty. I've just listened to the Townsend version and he sings: "If you've got no doubt she'll (he'll) make your heart sing out If you want her to only think of you." I guess that is the couplet BRENDA REID fluffed. Maybe someone can be bothered to check out the Billie Davis version. MICK PATRICK --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 9 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:46:39 -0700 From: Carol Kaye Subject: Re: Celine > I was wondering if the Celine Dion Spector sessions > had come out in any form. I seem to recall a Phil > Spector press release that said the tracks would be > released at some point to show how good they were in > comparison to what Celine did after the project was > scuttled. I would think that these would be a > bootlegger's goldmine, but if Spector has the tapes, > they are probably safe from illegal use. Does anyone > have any info on these sessions or their release? Jon, I had gotten the call to work for Phil on bass for Celine (but had turned it down - didn't want to work for Phil), and from what I know....they were not very serious dates from what I heard, but sort of "getting back together" dates for most altho' some on the dates never did work for Phil before. Evidently Celine et al. had gotten into some sort of argument in the booth, they were very unhappy with the tracks and the party-mood of the whole thing from what I hear, and it was all scrapped from what was told me. This was before she was a big star. But I don't really know outside of what the musicians tell me. Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 10 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:44:35 -0400 From: Scott Subject: The Murmaids Hello Spectropop. I've been lurking in the group for quite some time. I wanted to know if anybody remembers a group of three girls who recorded a wonderful record back in the summer of '63 called Popsicles And Icicles"? They called themselves The Murmaids and I was told they were three high school graduates from Grant High School here in Los Angeles. I think they may have had connections with the music industry. I love the sound of that record, the organ, etc. The music is a cross between Spector and the Beach Boys. Whatever happend to these gals? Did they ever record an album. Just curious because Popsicles.. is one of my all-time favorite records. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 11 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:41:13 -0000 From: Greg Ogarrio Subject: Who Sang in "Darling" '65 UK film? No one seems to be able to confirm the girl group who sang the wonderful song with lyrics "someone to talk to baby" in the Julie Christie film "Darling" in '65. No film credits, but it sure sounds like the Breakaways. Anyone help? Greg O. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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