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There are 12 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Craig Smith
From: Billy G. Spradlin
2. DELETED MESSAGE
From: Spectropop Admin
3. The Millennium Box Set New Release
From: Joey Stec
4. THE GIRLFRIENDS
From: "Warren Cosford"
5. Re: The Girlfriends
From: "Donny Hampton"
6. Re: The Girlfriends
From: "Tony Leong"
7. Girlfriends
From: John Clemente
8. David Gates' Girlfriends
From: LePageWeb
9. Re: The Girlfriends
From: "Mike Arcidiacono"
10. Drummers
From: Doc Rock
11. Re: April & Nino
From: Carol Kaye
12. Re: Earl and Hal
From: "Mike Arcidiacono"
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 05:28:03 -0000
From: Billy G. Spradlin
Subject: Re: Craig Smith
Dear Kieron:
I have Chris and Craig's Capitol single: "Isha b/w I
Need You", both sides were prodced by Steve Douglas.
The A-side is a super-catchy slice of Bubblegum
Pop-Psychedelia with "swirling" sitars and harpsichords.
It's been one of my "mystery singles" since I
discovered it in a Wichita, Kansas DAV thrift store
back in 1987! I have asked many people about it, but I
havent found any mention of the duo until now. Thanks
for the information about Craig Smith!
Billy
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Message: 2
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:33:50 EDT
From: Joey Stec
Subject: The Millennium Box Set New Release
The Millennium ... FYI
Sundaze Records has released a 3 box set of the
Millennium begin and all master tracks of the ballroom
and other songs and recordings we did between 1965 and
1968.. they did an excellent job in packaging and
mastering...this is all the real stuff and additional
instrumental tracks of some of the tunes .... as a member
i have to say that we all share in the release being
probably the best and most complete of all.
Good job Bob Irwin and the Sundaze Crew...
Joey Stec
[ Ed. note: Sundazed has full track info,
some audio samples and order information linked at:
http://www.spectropop.com/go2/curtboettcher_new.html
Liner notes were previously reported here to be written
by Spectropop Group member David Bash. David has also
contributed much writing on Curt Boettcher related
projects to the Curt Boettcher page at Spectropop
http://www.spectropop.com/go2/curtboettcher.html
]
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:06:16 -0400
From: "Warren Cosford"
Subject: THE GIRLFRIENDS
Beach5 wrote:
Anyone know who 'The Girlfriends' are??
I don't know who The Girlfriends are....but I do know
that, on the original 45PM, the producer is listed as
David Gates. It was never a hit in my area of the
world, however, for a while it was the theme song of a
DJ named Jivin' Jim Paulson.
WC
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:28:32 -0000
From: "Donny Hampton"
Subject: Re: The Girlfriends
Beach5 wrote:
>Anyone know who 'The Girlfriends'are??
If I remember correctly, The Girlfriends were an offshoot
of The Blossoms featuring Gloria Jones (the lead vocalist,
I believe), Carolyn Willis and a third girl whose name I
believe was Nanette.
What I'd like to know is, who were The Butterflys?
Don Charles
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 03:27:20 -0000
From: "Tony Leong"
Subject: Re: The Girlfriends
Beach5 asked:
> Anyone know who 'The Girlfriends'are?? Have them on a
> Colpix compilation LP and there's a small picture.
> Looks like Darlene Love in the group and has a total
> Phil Spector sound. The song is called "(My One And
> Only) Jimmy Boy'. Did Phil produce it??
No Sir, the Girlfriends were not produced by Phil. David
Gates who later sang lead for Bread produced them!!!!
The Girlfriends were basically a studio-group made up of
LA session singers Gloria Jones, Nanette Williams, and
Carolyn Willis. Darlene Love was never a member, nor did
she appear in photos of the group. The only song I ever
heard by them was "My One and Only Jimmy Boy" which was
sung in a unison vocal by all 3 girls. The Girlfriends
recorded some more sides (I've yet to hear them, but I'm
sure they are as good as the previously mentioned song),
then they abandoned the project. I wonder if they even
toured or did any promotion (John Clemente, can you
answer that?? David?? Carolyn??). Carolyn and Gloria
were part of the anonymous session singers that did
sessions for Phil as well, so there is no doubt that they
are on numerous Philles-recordings along with Darlene,
Fanita, Cher, and my favorite Edna Wright (that's her
voice clearly in the background of "Quiet Guy" and
"Strange Love" playing off sister Darlene's lead).
Carolyn Willis later went on to become a member of the
group Honey Cone along with Edna Wright and Shellie Clark.
Hope you find this post informative!! Tony
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:50:15 -0400
From: John Clemente
Subject: Girlfriends
Hello,
In response to EJ Bennett's post re: The Girlfriends --
The Girlfriends were an offshoot of The Blossoms and
featured Carolyn Willis, who later became famous as one
third of The Honey Cone, plus original Blossoms Gloria
Jones and Nannette Williams. This is how they are
pictured from left to right in their photo. Songwriter
and future leader of Bread, David Gates, wrote the song
and produced the session. The song did fairly well, but
fell short of really breaking out, as many songs that
were on the bottom rungs of the pop charts in late 1963.
The song charted at #25 in New York City on both WABC
and WMCA. Carolyn Willis told me that they would have
made The Girlfriends a full time group if the record hit
big. The Girlfriends also backed Dorothy Berry on her
wonderful version of "You're So Fine" for Challenge and
its flip, "Crying On My Pillow".
Regards,
John Clemente
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:05:51 +0900
From: LePageWeb
Subject: David Gates' Girlfriends
He's My One and Only Jimmy Boy - one of the greatest
faux Spector records ever!!! Hear it once-need it
forever! I first heard it on HCTG#3, along with its
flip, For My Sake. Both sides penned by David Gates
(whose Lost in Wonderland is another great GG fave). For
My Sake is pretty good on its own, it reminds me a bit
of Jeff & Ellie's "That Boy Is Messing Up My Mind" from
the same HCTG#3, but He's My One and Only Jimmy Boy -
whew! There are very few records as good as this one.
Does anyone have any info on Colpix single 744 "I Don't
Believe In You"/"Baby Don't Cry"? If these tracks exist,
and if they are anywhere near as good as Jimmy Boy,
somebody's just gotta unearth them.
Jamie
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 23:02:47 -0400
From: "Mike Arcidiacono"
Subject: Re: The Girlfriends
> Anyone know who 'The Girlfriends'are??
> Looks like Darlene Love in the group and has a total
> Phil Spector sound. The song is called "(My One And
> Only) Jimmy Boy'. Did Phil produce it??
Nope...No Darlene Love and No Phil Spector. The song
was written and produced by David Gates, later of Bread.
Came out on Colpix. The flip was a really nice song
also, called "For My Sake". "Jimmy Boy" is on CD on the
Rhino Colpix/Dimension Story, "JB" and the flip are
both on "Here Come The Girls" I think, vol 3 (not sure
which vol, but they're on there)
Mikey
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:42:46 -0400
From: Doc Rock
Subject: Drummers
> There's some truly spectacular drumming on this track,
> and for awhile I believed Hal's book when it said it was
> him. But now I hear it as definitive Earl Palmer. Except,
> wait, I'm playing it again, and it might well be a case
> of both, with Earl mixed higher (in the right channel).
When I was researching my book, "Liberty Records," I was
told by Bones and Hal that Jan used both Hal and Earl
on tracks like "Drag City."
Doc
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:08:03 -0700
From: Carol Kaye
Subject: Re: April & Nino
> Anyway, Phil Spector may or may not have produced Deep
> Purple...
No, he was nowhere near Gold Star that day....we did
Deep Purple (I played guitar on it) and Nino did it just
fine....he's an accomplished sax player and his sister
Carole and he have always sung together too. I'm sure
that everyone, including Nino, were very influenced by
Phil's way of producing tho'. They were among many
hanging out at the Phil Spector dates, especially Nino
that I saw many times.
> By the way, I was once talking to Hal, and said I thought
> he played on the Ventures' "Hawaii Five-O," and he said
> no, it wasn't him. But as it turned out he assumed the
> Ventures version was the same one played on the actual TV
> show, and it's not. So then he said it could very well
> be him on the hit.
I think that Hal did one of the recordings but
practically all the time on the recuts for the Hawaii 5-O
Theme, it was John Guerin.....I have the re-use for that
also on bass but I didn't do the Ventures one, that was
Ray Pohlman on bass on the original which, you're right,
is NOT the one commonly heard for "Hawaii 5-O". And the
one I'm playing on which is the common one has John
Guerin on drums - John is an excellent jazz drummer who
can also play the most low-down rock drums too.
Sometimes, books make mistakes...like "The Way We Were"
has Paul Humphrey on drums on that contract of the Barbra
Streisand hit we cut together at TTG Dec. 1973 (not in
the movie version at all), that's the one you hear all
the time, but Hal also has that in his book. You can
always tell the difference by drum sounds as well as Earl
plays some neat paradiddles for fills that were very
characteristic of his fills-style, whereas Hal mainly
played straight-ahead 16ths on each tom-tom, surf-style
things, yet could play some nice fills too, just not the
paradiddles that Earl always played.
Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 23:04:38 -0400
From: "Mike Arcidiacono"
Subject: Re: Earl and Hal
"Frank Youngwerth" wrote:
> I'm curious if anyone else likes to listen to "Spectropop"
> tracks and try to figure out whether it's Hal Blaine,
> Earl Palmer, both, or neither. For instance, both
> drummers list Bobby Vee's "The Night Has a Thousand Eyes"
> as being their work. There's some truly spectacular
> drumming on this track, and for awhile I believed Hal's
> book when it said it was him. But now I hear it as
> definitive Earl Palmer. Except, wait, I'm playing it
> again, and it might well be a case of both, with Earl
> mixed higher (in the right channel).
>
> Of course, when that promised book comes out, it'll
> probably just be a matter of looking it up, although I
> wonder how comprehensive it's going to be--just hits, or
> flops, b-sides and album tracks too? By the way, I was
> once talking to Hal, and said I thought he played on the
> Ventures' "Hawaii Five-O," and he said no, it wasn't him.
> But as it turned out he assumed the Ventures version was
> the same one played on the actual TV show, and it's not.
> So then he said it could very well be him on the hit.
> Around this time he said he spent more time watching TV
> than listening to records.
Nahh...its Hal all the way...Hal does the same things on
"Devil In Disguise" by Elvis.
Mikey
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