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Subject: Critters/Lou Christie
Sent: 27/4/98 10:58 pm
Received: 28/4/98 12:19 am
From: Kieron Tyler, kierXXX@XXXXXXorg.uk
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
The Kapp period stuff is more Lovin Spoonful-ish, although
thats probably a little bit too sweeping. The Project 3 stuff
as far as I know hasn't been reissued (although theres probably
the usual obscure Japanese CD out there).
I'm a big fan of Lou Christie and was wondering if anyone had
heard any of the songs he wrote for other people in the 60s. I
think there are at least a couple of Girl Group 45s. And does
anyone know the story on 'Canterbury Road' which appears to be
recorded with The Millenium?
Bit unfair on All Saints there, although I'm not too bothered
about their watered down swingbeat, they're meant to slouch,
how could they do otherwise....
All the best, Kieron Tyler.
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Subject: cynthia w...w...w...
Sent: 27/4/98 1:56 am
Received: 27/4/98 6:55 am
From: KingoGrief, KingoGrXXX@XXXXXXm
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
In a message dated 98-04-26 12:20:07 EDT, le_page_web writes:
<< when I told [Mike Stoller] I
adored "Only In America" he casually tossed off a comment like
"Oh yeah, we wrote that with Barry and Cynthia..." BARRY and
CYNTHIA??? As if it goes without saying that I am supposed to
know who Barry and Cynthia are!!! Of course I do, but I found
that extraordinary! >>
while it's fresh on my mind, does anyone know the correct
pronunciation for "weil"? it's been a headscratcher for me for
many years...
thanx,
jeff
---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]---
Subject: Gary Zekley questions
Sent: 27/4/98 4:09 am
Received: 27/4/98 6:55 am
From: Scott Bauman, scottbauXXX@XXXXXXmsn.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
I know that Gary Zekley is supposed to be one of those "behind
the scenes" sixties popmeisters, like Gary Usher and Curt
Becher. But, can anyone tell me what he's done besides produce
the Yellow Balloon and The Clique. Also, what CDs best showcase
his talents? Finally, does anyone know when and how he died?
Thanks.
-- Scott
---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]---
Subject: Graham Gouldman
Sent: 27/4/98 1:38 pm
Received: 28/4/98 12:19 am
From: Javed Jafri, javedjaXXX@XXXXXX.ca
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
> Subject: More on Graham Gouldman
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> I have always wondered how Gouldman got so many covers. I can't
> think of another UK writer with similar success. Ron Richards,
> Giorgio Gomelski and Mickie Most all used Gouldman material,
> and as far as I know, there is no common bond among them which
> would lead to Gouldman. Maybe Gouldman had a good music publisher
> plugging his tunes? Any idea?
> btw, his _thing_ LP with John Paul Jones is a treat, isn't it?
> I understand his first group the Whirlwinds have a track on Beat
> at Abbey Road. Was Gouldman ever in a band called Mockingbirds?
> What are there records like? Anyone know?
> le_page_XXX@XXXXXXies.com
Page,
Yes Graham Gouldman was in a band called the Mockingbirds. This
group also included future 10cc member Kevin Godley. They
released singles on the Immediate, Decca and Columbia labels
between 1965-66. Their sound can be described as R & B
influenced 'beat" music.
Before the formation of 10cc, Graham also somehow ended up as a
staff writer for the Kasenatz-Katz bubblegum team in New York.
In fact, he was the lead singer on the very last chart record
released under the Ohio Express name.
After the breakup of 10cc Graham, of course, teamed up with
Andrew Gold in the duo called Wax.
Javed
---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]---
Subject: The Hollies
Sent: 27/4/98 8:51 am
Received: 28/4/98 12:19 am
From: Marc Wielage, XXX@XXXXXXrax.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
IChippett <IChippXXX@XXXXXXm> commented on the Spectropop List:
>Apart from the Beatles and the Beach Boys, the Hollies must
>have had the biggest number of hits during the Sixties, in
>Britain at least. They had a totally unique vocal sound and a
>gift for choosing really catchy material. So what was missing?
>Why did they never become Dinosaurs of the Rock World? (I hope
>this is a suitable subject for discussion here on Spectropop).
------------------------<snip>------------------------
Over here in the States, The Supremes, The 4 Seasons, and The
Stones had far more charted hits than The Hollies in the 1960s.
In fact, just looking at the groups (non-solo artists), the top
commercial successes for the U.S. in this decade would be:
The Beatles
The Supremes
The 4 Seasons
The Beach Boys
The Rolling Stones
The Miracles
The Temptations
Surprisingly, The Hollies don't even make the Top 25 artists
for the decade. Part of the reason is that they only had 23
charted singles (only 15 of which hit during the 1960s). But
for their entire career, they're currently the #174th U.S.
chart success of all-time, which ain't bad.
--MFW
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Subject: Re: Hollies
Sent: 27/4/98 2:46 am
Received: 27/4/98 6:55 am
From: BashPop, BashXXX@XXXXXXm
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
<< Apart from the Beatles and the Beach Boys, the Hollies must
have had the biggest number of hits during the Sixties, in
Britain at least. They had a totally unique vocal sound and a
gift for choosing really catchy material. So what was missing?
Why did they never become Dinosaurs of the Rock World? (I hope
this is a suitable subject for discussion here on Spectropop).
Best wishes
Ian C>>
Hi Ian,
If what you mean by The Hollies never becoming "Dinosaurs of
the Rock World" is that they never acheived the huge success of
other bands like The Beatles and The Stones, I think it's
because they never were able to come up with any classic albums
, not in the sense that we measure greatness but in the sense
that the general public does. Although we on this list may laud
such albums as "Evolution" or "Butterfly", the public didn't; it
reached only #13 on the UK charts and, in it's altered U.S.
state, reached only #43 here. In fact, the Hollies never scored
a top 10 album in the States. Sure, they had 18 top 10 hits in
the UK, but having a huge number of hits will not be enough to
propel the band into the annals of eternal greatness, unless
those hits are accompanied by a few well respected albums. Of
course, Soul groups are another story...
--
Spectropop Rules!!!!!
Take Care,
David
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Subject: Only In America
Sent: 28/4/98 4:06 am
Received: 28/4/98 6:35 am
From: Jeff Glenn, Jeff_GlXXX@XXXXXX.nba.TRW.COM
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
<btw, I understand Only In America was to be released by the
Drifters but Atlantic thought the subject matter was too
controversial for a black act to release. Does a Drifters
recording exist and is it available?>
Jamie,
The original Drifters version of "Only In America" (using the
same track as the Jay & the Americans version) is currently
available in the U.S. on Rhino/Atlantic's 3-CD Drifters box set
ROCKIN' & DRIFTIN.' Go to CD Now's web site (www.cdnow.com);
they have the full track listing there. It's a great set!
Hope this helps.
Jeff
---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]---
Subject: Re: The Mockingbirds
Sent: 27/4/98 2:58 am
Received: 27/4/98 6:55 am
From: BashPop, BashXXX@XXXXXXm
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
<< I understand his first group the Whirlwinds have a track on Beat
at Abbey Road. Was Gouldman ever in a band called Mockingbirds?
What are there records like? Anyone know?
--
le_page_XXX@XXXXXXies.com>>
Hi Jamie,
The Mockingbirds released 5 singles during 1965-66, on various
labels. I have a couple of their songs on compilations: "You
Stole My Love" is a really good beat raver, and it appears on
the wonderful CD comp "The Immediate Alternative", on Sequel
Records. "One By One" is another beat number, but with more of
a folky flavor. It appears on "English Freakbeat: Volume 3", on
Archive International Records (actually Bomp, but I'm not
supposed to tell!).
Both Graham Gouldman and Kevin Godley, later of 10cc, appeared
in The Mockingbirds. It's difficult to tell who's singing lead
on these tracks, but I suspect it's Gouldman.
--
Spectropop Rules!!!!!
Take Care,
David
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Subject: Spring etc.
Sent: 27/4/98 4:37 am
Received: 27/4/98 6:55 am
From: harvey john williams, harvey.williXXX@XXXXXXcite.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
Hello there.
I'm a new subscriber to Spectropop, and I'm finding it truly
fascinating. This is my first posting; it's great to be here.
I've been re-listening to the (American) Spring LP a lot
recently, & it occurred to me that I know zero about the LP's
co-writer/producer David Sandler. Anyone out there know of his
activities beyond this project? He's obviously a guy with a
devotion to the Brian Wilson Sound judging by the production on
Spring, so more info would be gratefully received. (Brad? are you
there?)
Harvey.
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