--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o-- _ ( )_ ___ _ _ __ ___ | ,_) _ __ _ _ _ _ _ _ /',__)( '_`\ /'__`\ /'___)| | ( '__)/'_`\ ( '_`\ /'_`\ ( '_`\ \__, \| (_) )( ___/( (___ | |_ | | ( (_) )| (_) )( (_) )| (_) ) (____/| ,__/'`\____)`\____)`\__)(_) `\___/'| ,__/'`\___/'| ,__/' | | | | | | (_) (_) (_) --o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o-- Volume #0074 04/28/98 --o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o--o-- This vintage recording may be played on Mono or Stereo equipmentSubject: Critters/Lou Christie Sent: 27/4/98 10:58 pm Received: 28/4/98 12:19 am From: Kieron Tyler, kierXXX@XXXXXXorg.uk To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com The Kapp period stuff is more Lovin Spoonful-ish, although thats probably a little bit too sweeping. The Project 3 stuff as far as I know hasn't been reissued (although theres probably the usual obscure Japanese CD out there). I'm a big fan of Lou Christie and was wondering if anyone had heard any of the songs he wrote for other people in the 60s. I think there are at least a couple of Girl Group 45s. And does anyone know the story on 'Canterbury Road' which appears to be recorded with The Millenium? Bit unfair on All Saints there, although I'm not too bothered about their watered down swingbeat, they're meant to slouch, how could they do otherwise.... All the best, Kieron Tyler. ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:42 am ]--- Subject: cynthia w...w...w... Sent: 27/4/98 1:56 am Received: 27/4/98 6:55 am From: KingoGrief, KingoGrXXX@XXXXXXm To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com In a message dated 98-04-26 12:20:07 EDT, le_page_web writes: << when I told [Mike Stoller] I adored "Only In America" he casually tossed off a comment like "Oh yeah, we wrote that with Barry and Cynthia..." BARRY and CYNTHIA??? As if it goes without saying that I am supposed to know who Barry and Cynthia are!!! Of course I do, but I found that extraordinary! >> while it's fresh on my mind, does anyone know the correct pronunciation for "weil"? it's been a headscratcher for me for many years... thanx, jeff ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]--- Subject: Gary Zekley questions Sent: 27/4/98 4:09 am Received: 27/4/98 6:55 am From: Scott Bauman, scottbauXXX@XXXXXXmsn.com To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com I know that Gary Zekley is supposed to be one of those "behind the scenes" sixties popmeisters, like Gary Usher and Curt Becher. But, can anyone tell me what he's done besides produce the Yellow Balloon and The Clique. Also, what CDs best showcase his talents? Finally, does anyone know when and how he died? Thanks. -- Scott ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]--- Subject: Graham Gouldman Sent: 27/4/98 1:38 pm Received: 28/4/98 12:19 am From: Javed Jafri, javedjaXXX@XXXXXX.ca To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com > Subject: More on Graham Gouldman > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > I have always wondered how Gouldman got so many covers. I can't > think of another UK writer with similar success. Ron Richards, > Giorgio Gomelski and Mickie Most all used Gouldman material, > and as far as I know, there is no common bond among them which > would lead to Gouldman. Maybe Gouldman had a good music publisher > plugging his tunes? Any idea? > btw, his _thing_ LP with John Paul Jones is a treat, isn't it? > I understand his first group the Whirlwinds have a track on Beat > at Abbey Road. Was Gouldman ever in a band called Mockingbirds? > What are there records like? Anyone know? > le_page_XXX@XXXXXXies.com Page, Yes Graham Gouldman was in a band called the Mockingbirds. This group also included future 10cc member Kevin Godley. They released singles on the Immediate, Decca and Columbia labels between 1965-66. Their sound can be described as R & B influenced 'beat" music. Before the formation of 10cc, Graham also somehow ended up as a staff writer for the Kasenatz-Katz bubblegum team in New York. In fact, he was the lead singer on the very last chart record released under the Ohio Express name. After the breakup of 10cc Graham, of course, teamed up with Andrew Gold in the duo called Wax. Javed ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]--- Subject: The Hollies Sent: 27/4/98 8:51 am Received: 28/4/98 12:19 am From: Marc Wielage, XXX@XXXXXXrax.com To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com IChippett <IChippXXX@XXXXXXm> commented on the Spectropop List: >Apart from the Beatles and the Beach Boys, the Hollies must >have had the biggest number of hits during the Sixties, in >Britain at least. They had a totally unique vocal sound and a >gift for choosing really catchy material. So what was missing? >Why did they never become Dinosaurs of the Rock World? (I hope >this is a suitable subject for discussion here on Spectropop). ------------------------<snip>------------------------ Over here in the States, The Supremes, The 4 Seasons, and The Stones had far more charted hits than The Hollies in the 1960s. In fact, just looking at the groups (non-solo artists), the top commercial successes for the U.S. in this decade would be: The Beatles The Supremes The 4 Seasons The Beach Boys The Rolling Stones The Miracles The Temptations Surprisingly, The Hollies don't even make the Top 25 artists for the decade. Part of the reason is that they only had 23 charted singles (only 15 of which hit during the 1960s). But for their entire career, they're currently the #174th U.S. chart success of all-time, which ain't bad. --MFW -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= Marc Wielage | "The computerized authority =- -= MusicTrax, Ltd. | on rock, pop, & soul." =- -= Chatsworth, CA | XXX@XXXXXXrax.com =- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]--- Subject: Re: Hollies Sent: 27/4/98 2:46 am Received: 27/4/98 6:55 am From: BashPop, BashXXX@XXXXXXm To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com << Apart from the Beatles and the Beach Boys, the Hollies must have had the biggest number of hits during the Sixties, in Britain at least. They had a totally unique vocal sound and a gift for choosing really catchy material. So what was missing? Why did they never become Dinosaurs of the Rock World? (I hope this is a suitable subject for discussion here on Spectropop). Best wishes Ian C>> Hi Ian, If what you mean by The Hollies never becoming "Dinosaurs of the Rock World" is that they never acheived the huge success of other bands like The Beatles and The Stones, I think it's because they never were able to come up with any classic albums , not in the sense that we measure greatness but in the sense that the general public does. Although we on this list may laud such albums as "Evolution" or "Butterfly", the public didn't; it reached only #13 on the UK charts and, in it's altered U.S. state, reached only #43 here. In fact, the Hollies never scored a top 10 album in the States. Sure, they had 18 top 10 hits in the UK, but having a huge number of hits will not be enough to propel the band into the annals of eternal greatness, unless those hits are accompanied by a few well respected albums. Of course, Soul groups are another story... -- Spectropop Rules!!!!! Take Care, David ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]--- Subject: Only In America Sent: 28/4/98 4:06 am Received: 28/4/98 6:35 am From: Jeff Glenn, Jeff_GlXXX@XXXXXX.nba.TRW.COM To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com <btw, I understand Only In America was to be released by the Drifters but Atlantic thought the subject matter was too controversial for a black act to release. Does a Drifters recording exist and is it available?> Jamie, The original Drifters version of "Only In America" (using the same track as the Jay & the Americans version) is currently available in the U.S. on Rhino/Atlantic's 3-CD Drifters box set ROCKIN' & DRIFTIN.' Go to CD Now's web site (www.cdnow.com); they have the full track listing there. It's a great set! Hope this helps. Jeff ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]--- Subject: Re: The Mockingbirds Sent: 27/4/98 2:58 am Received: 27/4/98 6:55 am From: BashPop, BashXXX@XXXXXXm To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com << I understand his first group the Whirlwinds have a track on Beat at Abbey Road. Was Gouldman ever in a band called Mockingbirds? What are there records like? Anyone know? -- le_page_XXX@XXXXXXies.com>> Hi Jamie, The Mockingbirds released 5 singles during 1965-66, on various labels. I have a couple of their songs on compilations: "You Stole My Love" is a really good beat raver, and it appears on the wonderful CD comp "The Immediate Alternative", on Sequel Records. "One By One" is another beat number, but with more of a folky flavor. It appears on "English Freakbeat: Volume 3", on Archive International Records (actually Bomp, but I'm not supposed to tell!). Both Graham Gouldman and Kevin Godley, later of 10cc, appeared in The Mockingbirds. It's difficult to tell who's singing lead on these tracks, but I suspect it's Gouldman. -- Spectropop Rules!!!!! Take Care, David ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]--- Subject: Spring etc. Sent: 27/4/98 4:37 am Received: 27/4/98 6:55 am From: harvey john williams, harvey.williXXX@XXXXXXcite.com To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com Hello there. I'm a new subscriber to Spectropop, and I'm finding it truly fascinating. This is my first posting; it's great to be here. I've been re-listening to the (American) Spring LP a lot recently, & it occurred to me that I know zero about the LP's co-writer/producer David Sandler. Anyone out there know of his activities beyond this project? He's obviously a guy with a devotion to the Brian Wilson Sound judging by the production on Spring, so more info would be gratefully received. (Brad? are you there?) Harvey. ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]--- End
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