________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Clean with a slightly damp, lint free cloth ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 11 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. RONETTES ROYALTIES From: Mick Patrick 2. Re: Bells, Jingling or Not From: James Botticelli 3. Leader of the Pack From: Carole Gibson 4. Chiffons - Disc-o-Tek Holiday From: "Ian Chapman" 5. Nobody Knows What's Going On In This Video From: "Phil Chapman" 6. RE: You're The One From: Dean Scapolo 7. You're The One From: "Phil Chapman" 8. RE: Vogues From: Keith Beach 9. Re: Vogues...The CD Compilations From: Mike W 10. Soft Yet Surefire Backing Vocals From: James Botticelli 11. Re: RONETTES ROYALTIES From: papito ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:59:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Mick Patrick Subject: RONETTES ROYALTIES Greetings, The following news item was forwarded to me by a friend in the biz. It might prove of interest to Spectropoppers: A NEW YORK Appeals court has upheld a previous ruling ordering producer PHIL SPECTOR to pay $3 million to THE RONETTES in unpaid royalties. Tuesday's decision (November 13) follows a 1998 ruling that found Spector had violated a 1963 contract with The Ronettes - the all-girl outfit, containing his wife Ronnie, that he put together, managed and produced. It was found that the contract concerned only royalties on record sales. Spector made millions at The Ronettes' expense selling the recordings for use in advertising and on film soundtracks. According to Billboard, industry custom in such circumstances required Spector to pay a 50 per cent royalty to the recording artists. The trio didn't see a penny. The appeals court judge ordered the reclusive Spector to pay Ronnie Spector, her sister Estelle Bennett 55, and their cousin Nedra Talley Ross $2.97 million plus interest. MICK PATRICK --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 00:18:48 EST From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Bells, Jingling or Not > Can I suggest that the group, assuming that many of > us will play Darlene's "Christmas" track this year, > use it as a trigger to spare a thought for all the > families who will be without their loved ones this > year. It can be our moment of reflection...but still > have a good one everyone. sure, playing Darlene's "Christmas" is part and parcel of the obligatory holiday landscape, and a great song i'tis! May I suggest a change in pace in the interim? On A&M is Burt Bacharach with "The Bell That Couldn't Jingle"....Sums up the emptiness of life and offers an infusion of joy simultaneously...Use some today....JB --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:09:39 +0000 From: Carole Gibson Subject: Leader of the Pack In the Leader of the Pack musical, Ellie sings the song Rock of Rages. Does anyone know anything about this song? Has it been recorded at all? This question may have been asked before but I'm pretty new on here. Carole --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 00:21:13 -0000 From: "Ian Chapman" Subject: Chiffons - Disc-o-Tek Holiday Just seen this amazing clip for the first time a week ago, the first time I've ever seen the Chiffons live. It's the coolest girl-group performance you ever saw! Shot outdoors, the girls are like a hip 60s version of Lorelei, positioned amongst the rocks of a flowing stream and waterfall. Barbara and Pat are sitting, Sylvia and Judy (well....see later) are standing. Very precariously too, I might add - choreography is limited to arm movements only - one slip would've meant a trip downstream! They're all dressed differently - Sylvia, who takes lead on "Nobody Knows What's Goin' On", looks particularly good, with her beehive augmented by a single braid. There's also an endearing moment when Pat can't avoid a coy grin when the camera falls on her. And to top it all, there's a mystery. For the girl who should be Judy Craig, isn't! When the camera does a close-up of the girl in the yellow dress, it's clearly a stand-in. So who was she, and why wasn't Judy there? Maybe John can shed some light? Ian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:45:39 -0000 From: "Phil Chapman" Subject: Nobody Knows What's Going On In This Video Tony Leong: >Sylvia is standing and miming the lead....almost >looks like a Ronette with her beehive and long braid in >the back!!! Opening with a National Geographic front cover type scene, a suspect miming moment (details please, Ian), a self-conscious stand-in and a piece of cheap symbolism thrown in at the end, this clip is too good to miss. I have made a low-res mpeg (3.7 mb) for Spectropopers' enjoyment available... One of the fun things about this is that, presumably for safety reasons, there is no footwork whatsoever - which makes this a very handy routine when stuck in traffic, waiting your turn on the exercise machine, supermarket checkout, or whatever. And if you can find a nearby waterfall, well, you're made:-) Can anyone out there identify the location? Just curious. Staying with odd locations, does anybody remember, or even possess, the TOTP footage used for Ike & Tina's "A Love Like Yours"? - I have vivid memories of the Ikettes skulking around a monastery garden, emerging from behind giant stone urns to deliver their lines. Phil --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:06:18 +1300 From: Dean Scapolo Subject: RE: You're The One Hi, I just have to comment on this comment: >Holy hits, batman!! You mean, you've never heard "Youre >The One"??? >One of the best songs of the 60s!!! First of all, You're The One is not a Vogues original, it was written and originally recorded by Petula Clark (with Tony Hatch), and was therefore not released in Britain, as far as I know. We got both versions here, but our charts didn't start till 1966. The Vogues version is great, and I do prefer it to Petula's version, but Petula's is the original. Dean Scapolo --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 21:07:24 -0000 From: "Phil Chapman" Subject: You're The One Deena Canale: > Quite a few tracks have that special magic--I'm > particularly fond of "You're the One" (beats Pet > Clark's record by a wide margin... That just isn't true! Much as I like the Vogues version, PC's "You're The One" is one of the best produced pop records of the time. And the fact she co-wrote the song was relatively unusual for a female middle-of-the-road artist. The Tony Hatch arrangement perfectly supports the dynamics of the song, probably played by some 'name' musicians, and has that full Pye sound. At the time, I was annoyed that the Vogues had modified the original 12-string intro (influenced by "When You Walk In The Room"), but in retrospect I find it adds to the 'beat group' appeal, along with the singer's best Rod Argent interpretation. > I love the background tenor's show-offy upstaging of > the lead singer's vocals during every chorus--"you're > the oooooooone, yeah yeah yeah yeah") This is a direct lift of Pet Clark's random ad-lib during the instrumental section. And yes, it is so good that The Vogues decided to be rather more obvious and place it on every chorus. Favourite Vogues tracks: "Magic Town", "Five O'clock World", "My Special Angel", "See That Girl", "You're The One", "Where Did We Go Wrong" (another Clark/Hatch tune also recorded superbly by PC!) Around 68/69, I attended the then equivalent of a Spectropop get-together, and was told a fascinating story by Phil Symes (I think) along the lines that Phil Spector had attempted a version with Petula Clark for an American release (TV show, film soundtrack or something), but she had trouble with the vocal because the backing track was "...a racket"! My imagination remains fired to this day, but, as the rumour has never been substantiated, I suspect it is just one of the many 60s myths. Phil --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 05:03:48 +0000 From: Keith Beach Subject: RE: Vogues Well, thanks one and all for the vote of confidence in The Vogues. I did check out Amazon.com, which had soundbites of nearly all of the Rhino collection. So that's my contribution to economic recovery sorted. Nobody mentioned the great routine that Drew Carey and cast do to the song...check it out if you can. I'm off to practice the fatboy's dance moves. Keith Beach --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 9 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:17:11 -0000 From: Mike W Subject: Re: Vogues...The CD Compilations Dear Members, Could you share your opinions on what CD compilations to pick up, that have the best sound, song selections, etc ???? Thanks so much ! mikenyc --- In Spectropop, Dean Scapolo wrote: > The Vogues were a brilliant quartet to come out of the > 60s... --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 10 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:10:01 EST From: James Botticelli Subject: Soft Yet Surefire Backing Vocals In a message dated 11/17/01 4:48:36 AM, Dean Scapolo writes: > The Vogues were a brilliant quartet to come out of > the 60s, unlike most late 60s groups their style was > more like the harmonising groups Speaking of harmonizing groups, this may be slightly off-topic, but I had a chance to see The Whispers last night here in Boston at the acoustically & visually pleasing Berklee Performance Center. I discovered first hand the reason for the name for the group. The backing vocalists, two strikingly handsome middle-aged men, were impeccably soft yet solidly surefire with the backing vocals. I rarely rave about live shows...frankly most don't live up to the billing IMHO, but in this case......***** Most highly recommended at this address....JB --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 11 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:57:41 -0800 (PST) From: papito Subject: Re: RONETTES ROYALTIES Here is a copy of the NY Daily news. I have added the photo to the Spectropop Group photo page in the "Ronettes" folder. http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/lst Go Ronnie Estelle and Nedra!!! those are MY girls!! Robert Tirado from the Bronx, NY --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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