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Volume #0076 04/30/98
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Entertainment for Everyone
Subject: Re: gary zekley/the fun & games
Sent: 30/4/98 7:44 am
Received: 30/4/98 7:47 am
From: KingoGrief, KingoGrXXX@XXXXXXm
In a message dated 98-04-28 14:22:23 EDT, javed writes:
<< the album Elephant Candy by The Fun &
Games was produced by Zekley with many of the songs co-written
by him. Some may find this record a little too saccharine but
it does have it's moments. The song "The Grooviest Girl In The
World" actually reached # 78 in 1968. >>
wow...there's a song i haven't thought about in forever!! i had
that 45 as a kid...it was in a stack of "cutout" singles my
mother found at sears for me one christmas...it was on the uni
label and the flip, if i recall, was "it must have been the
wind"...i'm sure the cd availability on any f&g material is
next to nil, right??
i must say, what a great list this is!!
jeff
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Subject: Re: It's the Beatles
Sent: 29/4/98 3:38 am
Received: 29/4/98 10:04 am
From: MCE1965, MCE1XXX@XXXXXXm
<< From: Jamie LePage, le_page_XXX@XXXXXXies.com
I was reminded of and so listened to the British version of the
mono Revolver today, and I tried to take note of a few
differences between the mono and stereo. The cowbell in Taxman
enters earlier on the mono. I'm Only Sleeping has an extra
backward guitar riff during the "Taking my time lying..."
section. The ending to Love You To is a tad longer. Yellow
Submarine has John's long lost "a life of ease." She Said She
Said sounds a bit sped up. Most radical is Tomorrow Never Knows
with a longer intro, plus louder (and differently placed) tape
loop effects throughout. What a pleasure to relisten to this
album! Can anyone cite any other differences? Besides song
selection, are there any perceivable differences in the mono US
and UK pressings worth mentioning? >>
Page (and others who might be interested),
The best source for info of this nature is available from Joe
Brennan's Beatles page, which can be found at:
http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beatles/var-index.html
It's as good a list of Beatles recording variations as any
out there (and there aren't many good ones!).
Enjoy!
Mark
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Subject: Re: Lou Christie and Cynthia Weil
Sent: 30/4/98 6:04 am
Received: 30/4/98 7:47 am
From: Wondermints, monsaXXX@XXXXXXink.net
DockRock wrote:
>Christie's background singers, the Tammys, recorded his
>compositions, including "Egyptian Shumba" on UA, the ULTIMATE
>GG record!
Here, here ! I can't agree more. . .one of the most fun 'n'
freaky recordings ever made, along with being just a great GG
record. At a Buena Park Record meet appearance a couple months
back I asked Lou to actually write down what the background
vocals are singing. He wrote: "Shimmy-shimmy-shimmy Shy-iy
Mis-i-dis". And so was Misidis the name of a 12th Dynasty
pharaoh? No, he said it was just cool and exotic sounding. Now
that's art! He just kept referring to the Tammys as "my girls".
Great to chat with. . . asked him about working with Jack
Nitzche and words like "strange" and "genius" came up. That's
funny, those are words that come to mind whenever I think of
Lou (and Twyla to be fair).
Darian
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Subject: Re: kudos and a tip o'the hat to Doc
Sent: 29/4/98 4:35 am
Received: 29/4/98 10:04 am
From: Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom
>I'm about 2/3 of the way through Doc's Liberty records book and
>I must say- Man, what an incredible read!! Absolutely invaluable
>to any fan of 60s pop music. doc, you have done us all a great
>service with this obvious labor of love.
>Thank you So much. Ron
I was told that EMI bought copies for all their execs, as it
was a must-read for everyone in the record biz. Don't kow if it
is true, but it is true that it was a labor of love! Thanks, Ron
, for your feedback! Had I known how big a labor, I never would
have started it! I doubt people know how much info is in there
until they read it! Glad you know!
Doc
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Subject: Re: Spectropop V#0075
Sent: 29/4/98 6:28 am
Received: 29/4/98 10:04 am
From: Billy G. Spradlin, bilXXX@XXXXXXe.net
>Also, I saw mentioned elsewhere that the original US Sgt.
>Pepper didn't have the 15K tone or the concentric groove
>chatter. I could have sworn both UK and US versions had it. I
>know these were subsequently lost but reinstated in the '80's.
>Can anyone verify? I'm almost to the point of digging out the
>old Capitol LPs from storage.
I have both a 60's Capitol pressing and a 70's Apple pressing
and the 15K "dog hearing" tone and chatter doesn't appear on it
. I do know that the Capitol "Rarities" LP that came out in the
early 80's (and really a waste of vinyl) had the chatter tacked
on at the end of side 2.
One thing I have always noticed about my 1970's-era Stereo
Capitol and Apple albums is that they were mastered with much
more compression and reverb (especally on "Second Album") than
the mono British CD's. Did the Stereo EMI British albums have
this much compression on them too? Also Capitol really trashed
some great mono mixes by using the "Duophonic" process on them,
especally "She Loves You" and "I Feel Fine". I was very happy
when I bought "Past Masters Vol 1" and Finally heard the stereo
mix for the first time!
Billy G.
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Subject: Beatle Myth
Sent: 29/4/98 10:34 pm
Received: 30/4/98 7:47 am
From: Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom
>Doc, you have a book published called the _Beatle Myth_. Is
>that a song-by-song analysis? Do tell a bit about it. Is it
>available?
First off, let me say that I love the Beatles, I have a huge
collection of British 45s from the mid-sixties, and the Beatles
were the quintessential artist of the '60s.
What is the Beatle Myth about? It is about Gilding the Lily.
Exaggerating the legend of the Beatles, a legend which needs no
exaggeration at all!
Case in point:
There was once a compilation LP by Rhino called "Frat Rock Vol.
4," which featured "Chug-a-Lug." The liners claimed that this
Roger Miller tune was "One of the few non-Brit hits to chart in
America in late '64."
Well, that was the last straw. I was tired of revisionist rock
writers claiming that everything from Girl Groups to Surf to
the Everly Brothers to Doo Wop was killed off by the British
Invasion!
THE BEATLE MYTH looks at the facts (such as the charts), and
examines all the Beatle Myths in that contest.
Some of the facts I uncovered:
*The Orlons and Jan & Dean wore Beatle Boots and Beatle Jackets
before the British invaded in 1964.
*The most that the British Invasion artists ever "dominated"
the charts (on a yearly basis) was in 1965, when they had 10%
of Billboard for the year.
*More American Teen Idols wrote their own hits than did BI
artists. *Virtually every artist or type of music that
revisionist writers claim the BI killed off actually either
died off prior to the Invasion, or lasted out the Invasion.
I compiled a list of major US artists who had charted at least
5 times over three or more years. Then I made a list of the
artists whose career ended (last national chart hit) in 1964:
Anita Bryant, Ace Cannon, Coasters, Johnny Crawford, Crystals,
Duane Eddy, Four Preps, Bobby Freeman, Burl Ives, Sandy Nelson,
Orlons, Little Junior Parker, Lloyd Price, Santo and Johnny,
Linda Scott, Junior Walker. These are not the ones cited by
writers as being quashed by the BI.
I asked Dean Torrence in 1988 if the Invasion hurt Jan & Dean.
He said that it helped them, as the suits at the record
companies and TV networks finally started taking rock (
including J&D music) seriously.
Anyway, that is the Myth. The book also gives a complete
chronology of the Invasion, the artists, and Brit hits in the
US prior to the Invasion. Bobby Vee wrote the afterword.
Oh yes. I checked the Billboard Hot 100 when "Chug-a-Lug" was
poplar, late '64, when British Rock "dominated" the American
charts and had killed off American music. Know how many British
singles were on the Hot 100 when "Chug-a-Lug was at its peak?
Fourteen. Exactly 14! The Beatle Myth is available from the
publisher, or from me for 1/3 off.
Remember, I love the Beatles and the British. I am not
anti-Beatles. I just defend American music against the Beatle
Myth!
Doc
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