________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ For Your Further Musical Enjoyment ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 8 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 310: 1. EVIE SANDS, CHIP TAYLOR, P. P. ARNOLD & THE SHANGRI-LAS From: Mick Patrick 2. Re: Irene Reid / Lady Luck and the Lullabies From: "Don Charles" 3. Phil Spector Letter From: "Ron Weekes" 4. Lord, If You're A Woman [ help me ! ] From: Simon White 5. Phil Spector detail From: Peter van Dam 6. Paul Payton From: Marc Miller 7. Re: The Collage From: Dan Hughes 8. EVIE SANDS CD From: "Keith Beach" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 22:07:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Mick Patrick Subject: EVIE SANDS, CHIP TAYLOR, P. P. ARNOLD & THE SHANGRI-LAS Greetings, Paul Payton was right to recommend the recent CD by EVIE SANDS. Just in case the residents of planet Spectropop are unaware of it, here are the details. It was called WOMEN IN PRISON and was released in the UK on CHIP TAYLOR's Trainwreck label. Try their website for more information www.trainwreck.com Like Paul I can't find my copy of the CD (I musta loaned it out) but I can recall that Evie wrote all, or nearly all, of the tracks with Chip, the best of which was COOL BLUE STORY, a duet with Lucinda Williams. In fact, Evie's CD should appeal to the same folks who devoured Lucinda's brilliant "Car Wheels On A Gravel Track" album. Trainwreck held a party to launch the album. I wasn't invited but I knew someone who was, so I snuck in under their coat. I'd been off work for a day with flu, so I should have really been at home in bed, not out on the town at some rock lig. It was such a non-me thing to do anyway. I recognized Chip Taylor as soon as I got there, so I slipped him a copy of the BLUE CAT SOUL CD, which contains all four of the tracks he produced for Evie at Blue Cat. (I'd gone armed with gifts, Evie and Al Gorgoni got one too). Evie was strolling around chatting with the throng and it wasn't too long before I got my chance for a few words with the lovely lady. Even in her cowgirl boots I was a foot taller than she, so I perched on the arm of a couch so we could be eye-to-eye. I was concerned the poor thing would crick her neck but she told me she loved tall men and her husband was 6ft 4. I don't have the time to tell the whole story here but I will reveal what Evie told me about the Shangri-Las. I'd asked Evie if she'd ever been on a package tour, hoping she'd give me a good "on the road" story. Her reply went kinda like this: "Well, I was too young really and my parents wouldn't allow it. But I did do some record hops. You know, where you just go and lip-sync to your latest record. I remember the first time. They sent a car to pick me up. There sat in the back of the car were the SHANGRI-LAS. Well, they were the rudest girls I had ever met. Really crude and crass. Especially the twins. I came >from a very strict home, very respectable. I'd never heard anything like it in my life. I didn't even know those curse words existed. They were absolutely disgusting". I was actually quite thrilled to have the bad girl image of the Shangri-Las reinforced. Evie had no idea that the Ganser twins were both dead. "Oh no. If I had known they were dead I wouldn't have told you that story. I had no idea. I've been out of the business for twenty years". The highlight of the evening was an "unplugged" performance by Evie. She sang a few tracks from WOMEN IN PRISON plus I CAN'T LET GO, TAKE ME FOR A LITTLE WHILE and ANY WAY THAT YOU WANT ME. The event reached a wonderful climax when Evie was joined by the one and only P. P. ARNOLD to perform a duet version of ANGEL OF THE MORNING. You know, by the time the other revellers and I retired to the pub down the road my flu seemed to have totally vanished. And then Al Gorgoni joined us at the bar for a drink. I might tell you what he told me about ELLIE GREENWICH some other time. And I might not. Two weeks later I found myself sat at the next table to P. P. Arnold at a Flirtations gig. But that's another story... MICK PATRICK PS; Keith, was it you I loaned my Evie Sands CD to? --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 19:30:33 +0000 From: "Don Charles" Subject: Re: Irene Reid / Lady Luck and the Lullabies > Can any of you lovely people help with locate a copy > of Irene Reid "My Heart Said The Bossa Nova" - I > realise this may not be the exact title but I confuse > it with the Tippie and the Clovers version. I can't help you locate a copy, but I can tell you that The Drifters (Rudy Lewis on lead vocals) recorded this song under the title "Beautiful Music." It was not released at the time, but was recently made available on Sequel Records' fabulous and now regrettably out-of-print series of DEFINITIVE DRIFTERS ANTHOLOGY CDs. "Beautiful Music" is probably the original version of the tune, written by Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil before Leiber and Stoller's revisions. Don Charles --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 10:14:16 -0700 From: "Ron Weekes" Subject: Phil Spector Letter I don't want to sound crass or anything, but how do we know this letter is the real thing from Phil Spector and not some sort of Internet hoax, etc? Now didn't Phil produce "He's So Fine"? I find it interesting that in this letter to George that he didn't make any mentions of "similarities" between "My Sweet Lord" and The Chiffons track. Maybe he did later on when it George's song got into the courts. Ron Weekes --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 22:46:15 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Lord, If You're A Woman [ help me ! ] Hello chaps and chapettes. Would someone answer me a question? When was 'Lord If You're A Woman' actually recorded ? Not released. Recorded. I remember it coming out in the UK, and seem to remember a 12" as well. Was it released in the U. S. or just demo'ed? I know there are two seperate releases listed on the site but I can't make sense of it! Help ! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 19:43:05 -0000 From: Peter van Dam Subject: Phil Spector detail A small detail maybe overlooked. The session pianist Paul Griffin died in July 2000 small article by Joel Selvin, San Francisco Chronicle Music Editor Sunday July. 9 2000. "Gene Pitney remembers seeing producer Phil Spector and Griffin lying on a studio floor, Spector humming the arrangement he wanted for " You've Lost That Loving Feeling" in Griffin's ear while Griffin dutifully wrote it down. He didn't get the credit on the record." Griffin was a New York session player discovered by saxofonist King Curtis. Yours faithfully, Peter van Dam --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 11:30:22 -0500 From: Marc Miller Subject: Paul Payton Hey Country Paul - Didn't you used to be a radio guy (or maybe you still are) ?? Marc ex-WBCN, WXRK --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 09:41:15 -0600 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Re: The Collage Alan, here is a site that has detailed info on hundreds of obscure sixties groups. Unfortunately, what they have on the Collage is mimimal. http://www.spectropop.com/go2/delerium.html Here's the full Collage entry: Collage Personnel: DONNA JERRY JODIE RON ALBUM: THE COLLAGE (Smash 101) 1967 A nice psychedelic sleeve for a totally disappointing pop quartet. But this site is a gold mine for info on other artists. Enjoy! ---Dan --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 07:35:13 -0000 From: "Keith Beach" Subject: EVIE SANDS CD MICK PATRICK wrote > Keith, was it you I loaned my Evie Sands CD to? Nope, not guilty! But great story...keep 'em coming Mick. Recent postings about double tracking on Toni Fisher 'Big Hurt' reminded me of a question about that report on the Gene Pitney concert some while back. The best Pitney tracks have a very 'full' vocal sound because they are 'double-tracked'. In fact it always sounded to me as though it was another singer shadowing Pitney, as opposed to him double-tracking. There was something slightly different about the other vocal apart from the harmony element...or do I need my head and hearing examined (be kind). Never having seen Pitney in concert how well did he achieve this on stage? The same question applies to that other classic double-tracker Connie Francis. Is it out-of-order to use this platform to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Prosperous New Year. The way it's going I might never get round to doing Christmas cards till January. Keith Beach --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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