Spectropop - Digest Number 324

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• Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 22:51:36

                  
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There are 16 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this Digest Number 324:

      1. Assorted Ramblings
           From: "David Feldman" 
      2. Tony Pass(alaqua)/Steve Tudanger and E.G.
           From: Michael Rashkow 
      3. Re: Carol Kaye at Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
           From: Michael Rashkow 
      4. LAURA NYRO
           From: Mick Patrick 
      5. Re: War Is Over/Try Some Buy Some
           From: Monophonius 
      6. Re: Phil's Christmas Album
           From: "Don Charles" 
      7. Lesley Gore - It's Her Party
           From: Elisa  
      8. GEORGE, RUFUS AND ?????
           From: Warren Cosford 
      9. Re: Mr. Sandman
           From: James Botticelli 
     10. Ms Eleanor Greenwich - speedy recovery
           From: "Keith Beach" 
     11. Re: LAURA NYRO
           From: Mike C 
     12. Steve Tudanger
           From: "Ian Chapman" 
     13. Re: Assorted Ramblings
           From: James Botticelli 
     14. Re: Assorted Ramblings
           From: "Frank" 
     15. Re: LAURA NYRO
           From: "John Lester" 
     16. LAURA NYRO
           From: "Keith Beach" 


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Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 02:14:49 -0500
   From: "David Feldman" 
Subject: Assorted Ramblings

As far as Spectropop goes, these are the good old days. 
I've been mostly out-of-town for the past few weeks, and
I've been catching up and savoring hundreds of posts that
I've missed.

Stewart Mason said:

> Stress-related insomnia caused me to spend a couple
> early-morning hours in front of the TV last night, where
> to my shock I discovered our very own Dave Feldman hiding
> behind a goofy red Zorro mask as one of the
> tasters/celebrity judges on Food Network's READY SET COOK
> (imagine IRON CHEF as a low-budget American game show
> hosted by Ainsley Harriott, a wonderful and extremely odd
> British cooking show host).  Dave unfortunately only got
> in a couple of sentences, not quite enough to namedrop
> Lesley Gore or anything like that.  Still, it was a
> startling moment, sitting up on the couch and saying,
> "Hey!  I know that guy!"

   Egads, you poor thing, subjected to that show.  I
should have used an assumed name to go along with the
mask.

******

I'm thrilled that Richard Williams has joined the list. 
As a teenager, I subscribed to Melody Maker and read your
columns.  In 1972, I lived in England for a year and read
Out of His Head and caught up with much of your other
work.  I think you are the prototype of what a music
journalist should be, and I wish we had more folks in the
U.S. working in mainstream publications who could
approach your combination of great taste, knowledge,
erudition, and sense of humor.

*****

Mick, I just wanted you to know excited I am about your
inclusion of Laura Nyro in your next compilation.  I have
raved about Nyro here before, so I'll save the
superlatives, but I think she is one of the greats of the
last 50 years.  She defies easy categorization, but
certainly ONE of her attributes was the ability to embody
the essence of girl-groupiosity!
 


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Message: 2
   Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:49:17 EST
   From: Michael Rashkow 
Subject: Tony Pass(alaqua)/Steve Tudanger and E.G.

Hello Poppers,

Talked to Steve Tudanger (Four Evers, etc. etc. etc.)
today for the first time since Skippy was a pup.  We had
lost track of each other and were out of contact for many
moons. Good phone call, caught up on a lot of things.

For those what cares, he told me that Tony Pass(alaqua)
is living in Florida and is a member (maybe founding
member) of a vocal group called " The Legends".  All are
former members of NY 50's groups of some accomplishment,
though I don't know them or the credentials. Anyway,
according to Tudie, the group is touring full time and
doing very well performing the NY doo-wop repetoire, et
al.

For those that are aware of and care about Steve Tudanger,
he had a debilitating stroke several years ago and also
has a Pacemaker in his chest.  He's retired. doesn't
write, play or sing anymore--can't do it with his health
problems.  But he sounded great, very positive, still a
great sense of humor.  Very talented guy and a really
nice human being.

A couple of you may know that I worked with him back in
the early 70's.  One of the songs he wrote, Let Me Be
Forever, was a "B" side of a Definitive Rock Chorale
release.  Tudie filled me in that a later recording of
the same song went #1 in several South American countries.
I assume it had Spanish lyrics.

Steve told me that before his health went bad he was very
busy as a jingle singer in NYC.

The off-Broadway, Chekoff Theatre, in NYC is producing a
show about Steve and his early singing partner--a limited
run sometime in Feb. 2002.  I have the details, but can't
put my hands on them right now.

He also told me that Ms. Eleanor Greenwich has been quite
ill of late and is hospitalized at Duke University
Medical Center.  

Since I am now in Charlottesville, VA, somwhere near
Durham, NC, I may try to make a visit.  I'm not sure if
it's the right thing to do, she has a heart problem and
the sight of my face will likely put her into critical
condition.

Rashkovsky


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Message: 3
   Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:49:15 EST
   From: Michael Rashkow 
Subject: Re: Carol Kaye at Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

Andrew writes:

> I think it's a disgrace that they only have one
> 'sideman' per year. I also think that Atkins should
> have been inducted years ago as a performer in his own
> right. You'd think they'd induct the many, many great
> session players who actually made half of the best
> records of the 60s...
> 

MAN SPEAKS TRUTH!

Rashkovsky


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Message: 4
   Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 19:35:06 +0000 (GMT)
   From: Mick Patrick 
Subject: LAURA NYRO

Greetings,

Original message from John Clemente:

> It certainly is nice to hear someone ... say that ...
> Laura Nyro deserves to be on a GG compilation.  Laura
> was from The Bronx (yay), and was influenced to the
> brim by all the popular girl groups of the day.  Her
> album with Labelle is one of my favorites.

For the record, John (and others who have contacted me
on this subject), the next "Where The Girls Are" CD will
contain a track from Laura Nyro & Labelle's "Gonna Take
A Miracle" LP. I'll keep the song title under my hat for
the moment but those with a Spector bent should approve.

Hey, has there ever been a "Songs Of Laura Nyro"
compilation? Someone should do one. Might I recommend
"Stoney End" by the Blossoms (pre Streisand), one of
their best ever.

MICK PATRICK 


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Message: 5
   Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:18:51 -0000
   From: Monophonius 
Subject: Re: War Is Over/Try Some Buy Some

The mandolin effect in Try Some-Buy Some and Happy Xmas
(War Is Over) was previously used by Phil in Love Is All
I Have To Give by the Checkmates.  Of course, being Phil,
it sounded like a million mandolins.

--- In Spectropop, Andrew Hickey wrote:

> John/Yoko/Andy Peebles interview from Dec 6/7 1980):
> 
> "Yeah it was a really nice pleasant thing and
> basically I said to Phil, give me the backing you gave
> to George on a thing that George wrote for Ronnie
> Spector - and it's slipped my mind now, which is Try
> Some Buy Some - if you want to do some comparison
> shopping and listen to the track Try Some Buy Some
> that George has made with Ronnie Spector or whatever
> you'll hear the idea for the backing there which is
> what we did."


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Message: 6
   Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 21:06:41 +0000
   From: "Don Charles" 
Subject: Re: Phil's Christmas Album

> Has anyone seen Phil's Christmas music on sale
> (retail-wise) anywhere??? I have been getting alot of
> emails asking where to buy it...Is it available in stores
> this year? Cassette? CD?

You've got to be kidding!  The Abkco CD can still be
found in music stores where I live (Kansas City), and if
you want original Philles copies and/or reissues on vinyl,
there are scads of 'em being auctioned on eBay right now.

Don Charles


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Message: 7
   Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:22:16 -0000
   From: Elisa  
Subject: Lesley Gore - It's Her Party

Just thought I'd mention that I got a copy of this
programme sent over from Back Home - sadly A&E won't
ship outside of North America, so one desperate email
plea later, my parents remembered to tape it and send it
across. Hooray!

There was tons of performance footage and stills I'd
never seen before, which was a real treat.  It only
re-confirmed to me that she was one of the most stylish,
cool and gorgeous 60's girls. She came across as a
fantastic person, as did her brother - and her mom made
me laugh. "They took away our daughter and put her in a
recording booth!" (said in New Jersey accent)

I'll also have to try and find a copy of her 70's album
mentioned....

Anyhow, have a fabulous Christmas everyone! 

elisa 

p.s. cheers to everyone who replied about the Stocking
Tops - I haven't seen that other single, nor the
Enchanted Forest one, but my pop radar is keeping a
close watch. 


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Message: 8
   Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:20:23 -0500
   From: Warren Cosford 
Subject: GEORGE, RUFUS AND ?????

Paul Payton wrote:

> RIP Rufus Thomas. At least he lived a long life, and did
> good along with doing well. These things seems to come in
> threes: George, Rufus, and ?????

Answer?  Nashville based guitar session player Grady
Martin.

WC


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Message: 9
   Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:45:00 EST
   From: James Botticelli 
Subject: Re: Mr. Sandman

> The Supremes (Di, Flo and Mary) did a wonderful version
> of "Mr Sandman" and when there is enough demand, I am
> sure they will consider issuing it!

as did the Orlons...my all time favoUrite...

Jimmy Botticelli


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Message: 10
   Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:43:39 -0000
   From: "Keith Beach" 
Subject: Ms Eleanor Greenwich - speedy recovery

Rashkovsky wrote

> He also told me that Ms. Eleanor Greenwich has been
> quite ill of late and is hospitalized at Duke
> University Medical Center.  
> 
> Since I am now in Charlottesville, VA, somwhere near
> Durham, NC, I may try to make a visit.  I'm not sure
> if it's the right thing to do, she has a heart problem
> and the sight of my face will likely put her into
> critical condition.

Michael,

Can I speak for everyone and ask that you give her a hug
>from all of us in this group. Whether she knows it or not
she means a lot to us and we need to know she's in good
health (or getting there).

Thanks,

Keith Beach


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Message: 11
   Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 02:05:16 -0000
   From: Mike C 
Subject: Re: LAURA NYRO

Mick Patrick wrote:

> For the record, John (and others who have contacted me
> on this subject), the next "Where The Girls Are" CD will
> contain a track from Laura Nyro & Labelle's "Gonna Take
> A Miracle" LP. I'll keep the song title under my hat for
> the moment but those with a Spector bent should approve.
> 
> Hey, has there ever been a "Songs Of Laura Nyro"
> compilation? Someone should do one. Might I recommend
> "Stoney End" by the Blossoms (pre Streisand), one of
> their best ever.

Special Agent Mick:

Before Laura Nyro died there was a comp of Laura covers,
"Time and Love: The Songs Of Laura Nyro".  It was nice. 
I look forward to your next "Where The Girls Are" not
only for the Laura song but for the others that you have
hinted will be included as well.

Recently when listening to Kim Weston I was suddenly
struck at how similar she sounded to Laura Nyro and I
remembered somewhere that I had read where Laura Nyro
said that she was just a soul singer using a jazz
phrasing.  Surely Kim and Laura were/are soul sisters.

Go back into your own collection and pull out that old
Peggy Lipton album and get a load of Peggy singing
Laura's "Stoney End" and "Flim Flam Man" with surely none
other than Carole King playing the piano on these two
tracks.  A real treat.

And this:    

.....On a street corner where the kids boogie all night....
Where the wind sings and the stars shine like holiday
lights...come a band of angels with salvation in their
might....they ask for peace on earth!...To feel this love....

I miss Laura Nyro. 

Mike C.


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Message: 12
   Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 01:53:44 -0000
   From: "Ian Chapman" 
Subject: Steve Tudanger

Mike,

Thanks for the news about Steve Tudanger, tho' sad to
hear of his health problems.  Let's hear it for this guy
and his group The Four Evers, who were one terrific
harmony group (was Steve the lead singer, Mike?)  All
Spectropoppers should check out their stuff.  Too many
great tracks to list, several written by Steve, and many
produced by Charles Calello.  My own faves would have to
be "A Lovely Way To Say Goodnight", "(Say I Love You) Doo
Be Dum", "If I Were A Magician", "You Never Had It So
Good" and "I'm Gonna Tell Your Mother".  Gave the Four
Seasons a run for their money, and should've been bigger
than they were. 

Mike, next time you're in touch with Steve, maybe you
could ask him what he remembers about the tunes he wrote
for a girl-group called Tempi Lorrin & the Candy Girls;
"Run", "Tomorrow My Love" and "Runaround (Baby Baby)". 
Came out on the Rotate label in '64 - each one a
top-notch girl-group sound.  The guy sure had talent.

Ian


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Message: 13
   Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 20:43:19 EST
   From: James Botticelli 
Subject: Re: Assorted Ramblings

Dave Feldman writes:

> I'm thrilled that Richard Williams has joined the list.

As a Yank, I don't know Richard Williams per se, but allow
me to restate that this is fast becoming a digest to beat
all digests....the knowledge pool is the expansivest
imaginable...I've noticed that we have several British
contributors. I've always admired the British propensity
for taking the best of a culture's offerings --the very
best when it comes to pop music (usually the USA's)--and
serving it up often even better. And the knowledge of the
obscure titles. artists and albums/45's only makes the
whole base expand exponentially...Sorry for the extraneous
bullshit, but this is becoming better with time...Its a
pleasure to be a member ...  Jimmy Botticelli/once a
know-it-all, now a want-to-know mo'...yest STILL somewhat
of an insufferable know-it-all~


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Message: 14
   Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 08:57:46 +0200
   From: "Frank" 
Subject: Re: Assorted Ramblings

> Dave Feldman writes:
>
>> I'm thrilled that Richard Williams has joined the list.

As a kid I used to be a fervent reader of Richard
Williams column in the Melody Maker and until a few years
back I still had my complete MM collection (it was stolen
>from my house !!!). Though I still a few copies left I
always found it was the most interesting magazine ever
put out on our subject, I have to confess also a soft
spot for a lighter weight competitor to the MM named
Record Mirror where a certain Peter Jones used to rule. I
don't know whatever became of Peter but I got to meet him
several times, he was a really nice fellow and had
incredible stories to tell about all the artists we love.

Wish he too could be on the list.

Frank


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Message: 15
   Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 08:58:48 -0000
   From: "John Lester" 
Subject: Re: LAURA NYRO

Always one to bring up the Motown flag...Diana Ross's
first announced attempt at a solo career with Bones Howes
was "Time and Love " ..also Stoney End was in the
wings.....both mentioned in posts today!

The Jean Terrell Supremes did Time and Love later!


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Message: 16
   Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:05:36 -0000
   From: "Keith Beach" 
Subject: LAURA NYRO

John Lester wrote

> Always one to bring up the Motown flag...Diana Ross's
> first announced attempt at a solo career with Bones
> Howes was "Time and Love " ..also Stoney End was in
> the wings.....both mentioned in posts today!

And both done superbly by Streisand (well I thought so!)
OOPS I've given myself away!!!

Well, at least Laura got fabulous royalties from the
Streisand versions. 


Keith Beach


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