________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ The get-with-it sound for everyone who cares ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 15 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 337: 1. Re: Jane Canada - Two Degrees of Separation to Brian Wilson From: "Brad Elliott" 2. Fw: Magic Lamp From: "Peter Lerner" 3. re: Spector latest interview-?- From: Klaus Olsen 4. Re : Spector latest interview-?- From: "Frank" 5. Re: Spector latest interview-?- From: "Jean Emmanuel Dubois" 6. You're So Good To Me From: Doc Rock 7. Re: You're So Good To Me From: Andrew Hickey 8. YourRiff's So Good To Me From: James Botticelli 9. Re: You're So Good To Me From: LePageWeb 10. Re: Sandpipers/Lettermen pop gems From: "Mike Arcidiacono" 11. Re: Sandpipers/Lettermen pop gems From: Paul 12. Re: Connie Francis/Claus Ogerman From: "Don Charles" 13. Re: BIG TOWN BOY From: "Javed Jafri" 14. RE:George Harrison Boots From: tymespan 15. Good Vibrations recorded at Western From: Carol Kaye ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:28:33 -0600 From: "Brad Elliott" Subject: Re: Jane Canada - Two Degrees of Separation to Brian Wilson Lee Dempsey wrote: > > Now can anyone tell me anything about Jane Canada, > > who did the excellent original of Jackie > > DeShannon's Am I Dreaming on Magic Lamp records? > > Now we're getting into my territory... Brad Elliott, > are you out there? Yep, right here, Lee. > Didn't you determine in your > research for SURF'S UP -- THE BEACH BOYS ON RECORD that > "Bobby" in "Bob and Bobby" (Tower 154; "Twelve-O-Four" > b/w "Baby What You Want Me To Do"; co-produced, > uncredited, by Brian Wilson with his friend Bob Norberg) > was an alias for one "Jane Canada?" That is indeed what Bob told me some years ago. When I saw the question about the single on Magic Lamp, I was hoping somebody would provide some more information on her, because (unfortunately) I can't. Bob told me that Bobby's real name was Jane Canada, but he didn't recall a lot about her. She was a local L.A. singer he hooked up with for that one single, then they went their separate ways. He never indicated she'd done any other recording; I suspect he probably didn't know. Whether the Jane Canada of Bob & Bobby is the same singer as on the Magic Lamp single, I honestly can't say. I suspect it's likely, though, as the Magic Lamp label seems to have been tied into that mid-Sixties L.A. harmony pop scene which people like Brian Wilson floated on the fringes of. (There's a Jan & Dean single on the label!) Does anybody on this list have both the Magic Lamp single and the Bob & Bobby single? It'd be great if somebody could do a comparison and determine whether it's the same girl. I can't, as I only have the Bob & Bobby 45. Finally, does anybody know whether there are any more Jane Canada records out there? She may not be as much of an unknown as I've thought she was for the past 18 years! Surf's up! Brad --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 21:03:03 -0000 From: "Peter Lerner" Subject: Fw: Magic Lamp "Paul Payton" wrote: Peter wrote: > > ...can anyone tell me more about Magic Lamp - the only > > other 45 I have on this label is a Johnny Burnette > > production" > > ML-705 Mickey Jones & The Triumphs: "I Can Live Without > You"/"I Thought I Could" Prod. Joe Osborn; Arr. Larry > Knechtel (!) > > It has a Beach Boys-ish feeling, sounds like c. 1964 or > so. "A" side is very good, lots of creative transitions; > partial falsetto lead vocal. I remember nothing about > the "B" side. Label address is PO Box 3244, N. Hollywood, > CA (no zipcode listed). Does anyone know anything about > this artist? And what was the Johnny Burnette production > on Magic Lamp? Paul asks which is the Johnny Burnette production on Magic Lamp. It's ML 514, Heart don't hurt me again / Tell Jim I love him only, by Linda Hughes. Peter --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 21:21:08 +0100 From: Klaus Olsen Subject: re: Spector latest interview-?- Could it be the questionnaire in Vanity Fair november 2000 "the music issue" - photograph by Nicole Spector? Klaus >Dear Spector fans- > >I was wondering when the latest Phil Spector interview >was made. Being a ultra-reclusive man, Mr Spector >interviews are a rare thing- Of, course if somebody know >I would like to read it! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 17:44:54 +0100 From: "Frank" Subject: Re : Spector latest interview-?- Jean-Emmanuel Dubois wrote: > > I was wondering when the latest Phil Spector interview > was made. Being a ultra-reclusive man, Mr Spector > interviews are a rare thing- Of, course if somebody know > I would like to read it! Unless I'm mistaken, the last interview was for the special issue of Vanity Fair devoted exclusively to music. Frank --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 19:18:30 +0200 (MET) From: "Jean Emmanuel Dubois" Subject: Re: Spector latest interview-?- Mr Keith Beach, Many thanx for the infos Features aside, I would be thrilled to know when & to which media Mr Spector did answer some journalists questions. Thanx in advance. Best, Jean-Emmanuel (i'm just curious). --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:19:28 -0500 From: Doc Rock Subject: You're So Good To Me A great version came out in the late '60s by Debra Swisher (former lead of the Pixies Three and the Angels) on Boom 45 H 60,001, produced by Feldman-Goldstein-Gottehrer. The flip was a solo remake of the Angels' "Thank You and Goodnight." Doc --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:34:34 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Hickey Subject: Re: You're So Good To Me > Not much mention seems to go to the Andrew Oldham > produced version by The Factotums, which I think is > one of the better Brit covers. I'm sure it's on an > Immediate comp somewhere, but, as I know at least > two Immediate artists that have never received a > penny, I feel relatively guilt-free to... Thanks for that. If it was a 45 then at the very least it'll be available on the Immediate Singles box, but you're right - when Immediate went out of business its catalogue got passed on to other companies that didn't have to pay a penny in royalties, so none of the artists on the label received a penny from about 68 on. The Small Faces have, I think, recently come to some sort of deal with the current licensors (at least the comp 'The Darlings Of Whapping Wharf Laundrette' has various stickers about how it's put together by the surviving band members) but to my mind anyone else on Immediate is fair game, as the artist isn't getting paid anyway... --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 17:38:01 EST From: James Botticelli Subject: YourRiff's So Good To Me In a message dated 1/3/02, phil c writes: > the riff on "You're So Good To Me" is that it runs > throughout the entire record, rather like "Stand By Me", > "I Can't Help Myself" and "Then He Kissed Me" Submitted for your approval....nearly 50% if not MORE of all the cool riffs in the world of pop, funk, disco, house., garage rock, etc have that little "you're so good to me"-type four or five note segment that seems to be the essence of the groove of the song....Its not the notes, its just the way its arranged and played IMHO that makes it all good. Sometimes these days its electronic but the song remains the same. Anyone familiar with Joey Negro's Electronica Disco-House megamix will note that its literally filled with four or five note riffs that keep your neck-a-snappin' to the groove... My .02...JB --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 9 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 11:46:38 +0900 From: LePageWeb Subject: Re: You're So Good To Me Sure is nice to see Brian Wilson topics pop up here lately! Phil wrote: > The neat thing about the riff on "You're So Good To Me" > is that it runs throughout the entire record, rather > like "Stand By Me", "I Can't Help Myself" and "Then He > Kissed Me" (well, almost). This is a very neat device indeed. When used properly, it often makes a record for me. Here are few favorites: Motorin' - Martha and the Vandellas - What a bassline! Giorgio Moroder eat your heart out! Rescue Me - Fontella Bass - one of the coolest bass riffs ever. Black is Black - Los Bravos - I Can't Help Myself, anyone? One of the coolest ever is Someday We'll Be Together by the Supremes. This one features an incessant 1/8 note guitar riff that plays on the "and-3-and-4-and" of every single measure. Unlike the other examples, the notes change ever so slightly to match the chord sequence, which makes it even more appealing. Once you start listening to this riff, it's hard to pay attention to anything else! Jamie n.p. My Girl - Temptations --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 10 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:13:22 -0500 From: "Mike Arcidiacono" Subject: Re: Sandpipers/Lettermen pop gems > Sandpipers - "Let Go!" (A&M 997 - 1968) > Lettermen - "Mr Sun" (Capitol 5913 - 1967) - My favorite > Lettermen song, by far - so unlike the formularic > Letterman sound. As far as I know, only released as a > single. I can [play] these, if anyone's interested. Jeff.... Mikey here. I'm a Huge Lettermen fan. I'm at work, but off the top of my head, I believe that "Mr Sun" apears in stereo on the "Spring" LP, which is a great LP. It was also the first Lettermen LP I ever owned, and it got me hooked. You are right about the Lettermen having tons of great, unknown pop gems. Try "You'll Be Needing Me" for one!! Or, "The Shelter of Your Arms". Both were hits for other artists (Nino Temo & April Stevens, and Sammy Davis jr) but the Lettermen make these songs their own, and I FAR prefer their versions to the originals. Best, Mikey --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 11 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 21:10:54 -0000 From: Paul Subject: Re: Sandpipers/Lettermen pop gems Me too, I love these two groups, my favourite Lettermen tracks-also Mr Sun,Memories/Traces is also fantastic,Mary's Rainbow,Love is blue/Greensleeves,Sherry dont go.My fave Sandpipers tracks are 'Glass',Beyond the valley of the dolls,Come Saturday Morning,Softly & [of course] Let Go! I'm also a big fan of The Arbors,Free Design,Hugo Montenegro,Collage,Roger Nichols,The Match [anybody heard their 69RCA LP-they do a version of 'Thru Spray Colored Glasses' by Dino,Desi & Billy which is very dreamy]I'm looking for info on a group called The Pretty People who 'Fuzz,Acid &Flowers' say sound like Free Design.Any other rare soft pop that you could tell me about? Cheers, Paul --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 12 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 16:57:34 +0000 From: "Don Charles" Subject: Re: Connie Francis/Claus Ogerman Phil Chapman wrote: > > However, the next entry, from 1964, caught my > attention: Connie Francis with Claus Ogerman - Lady > Valet Theme/Rock Dem Bells (MGM13260). The A side > crops up in a current Hungarian dance club Chillout > playlist. Does this ring a bell with anyone? Phil I never knew about this release. If my memory serves me right, both tunes are instrumentals taken from the soundtrack of Connie's 1964 film LOOKING FOR LOVE. Connie and Claus also collaborated on other singles ("Your Other Love" comes to mind) and an album of Bacharach-David covers in 1968. Don Charles --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 13 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 19:35:03 -0500 From: "Javed Jafri" Subject: Re: BIG TOWN BOY "Vlaovic B" wrote: > Just a note...Shirley Matthews 'Big Town Boy' was > recorded in the States (NYC I assume), but Shirley was > Canadian. Track went top 10 in Canada in 1964, it's > follow-up also went top 30. It was also available on a > Canadian historical music compilation about 10 years ago; > 'What A Feeling' Not sure if you are talking about the "Oh What a Feeling" 4 CD box set that came out in 1996 to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the Juno Awards. Unfortunately BTB is nowhere to be found on that set. The collection is a rather pedestrian affair that concentrates on post 1968 material . It does include some of the biggest Canadian hits but a lot of essential music is missing. No Ugly Ducklings, Staccatos, Teenage Head or Pagliaro but at least Martha and the Muffins made the set. Javed --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 14 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:59:50 EST From: tymespan Subject: RE:George Harrison Boots I have the Beware of Abkco boot. It has 15 tracks of acoustic versions of songs from All Things Must Pass (including two Dylan songs.) Nothing elaborate just George & his guitar running through his selections but excellent sound quality.I don't have the CD in front of me but I believe about half of the songs were never released. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 15 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 22:27:10 -0800 From: Carol Kaye Subject: Good Vibrations recorded at Western There is a book in the UK that wrongly claims "Good Vibrations" hit was recorded at Gold Star. The truth is important. That UK book is entirely wrong, and I think it's terrible that Gold Star tries to claim that. I get the re-use and credit for it on Elec. Bass and I never did Good Vibrations at Gold Star at all, but at Western. All 12 record dates in my log for "Good Vibrations" list Western as the studio with Brian Wilson. The very first record date for "Good Vibrations" is listed as being at Gold Star...that track was never used as the bootlegs belie. I'm on the official hit recording contract and I get the re-use checks for Good Vibrations just for your information. One UK book out totally got that wrong....but the history is correct with it in the boxed sets and the re-use checks I get for it from the Musicians' Union/Federation and their official contract on the correct master. Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End