________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Dedicated to the betterment of recorded music and literature ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 6 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 417: 1. Re:klub nites From: James Botticelli 2. Mark Wirtz - Philwit & Pegasus From: Mark Frumento 3. Shannon; Light; Grape From: "Paul Payton" 4. Re: Baby Jane Holzer From: Dave Gardner 5. Re Baby Jane From: Simon White 6. Re: from Mark Wirtz to group From: Michael Sinclair ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:54:03 EST From: James Botticelli Subject: Re:klub nites > Thanks everybody for your help, you deserve no less....best wishes on your klub nite...a cautionary attachment however...don't expect big things. these things are wonderful conceptually, but the receipts and extras at the cash register really spell out the future of "the night" of special music.JB/its all about the paper --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:56:08 -0500 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Mark Wirtz - Philwit & Pegasus Maybe Mark can tell us all if the Philwit and Pegusus album is going to see the light of day again. There are two tracks on the "Fantastic Story of..." set but that is clearly just a tease. The album is attainable for a high price but from the two tracks I've heard it deserves a bigger audience. Of course John Carter who we discussed earlier is on the album as well. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:17:27 -0500 From: "Paul Payton" Subject: Shannon; Light; Grape As the long-haired folks of the 60's used to say, "Check your source." Further rambling around [snip url] (the Del Shannon story) reveals the site to be sponsored by Sci******gy, a group that regularly rails against pharmaceutical psychiatry, real or imagined. Take that for whatever it's worth to you, pro or con. Dan Hughes mentions Clear Light and Moby Grape. I was in radio at the time, and we played both groups extensively at WBRU in Providence. Clear Light had a couple of prime psych tracks, but solid promotion from Elektra never reached us - we wouldn't be caught dead reading Hit Parader! Moby Grape had the opposite problem - overhype >from Columbia, including the album and all its tracks on 45's release simultaneously. My copy of the LP walked away, but I still have the 45's in their picture sleeves! While Clear Light didn't have a hit, Moby Grape did with "8:05," and had many FM turntable hits as well, such as It's A Beautiful Day Today," "Hey Grandma," and "Truck Drivin' Man" (not the country classic). I firmly believe the group would have been as huge as the hype said they'd be - if only they hadn't had so much hype. And welcome, Mark Wirtz - um, Mr. Sinclair! Country Paul --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:35:59 EST From: Dave Gardner Subject: Re: Baby Jane Holzer In a message dated 3/15/02, Ian writes: > ....the only 45 release I could find on the ex-Warhol > starlet is the amazing and pretty fab "Rapunzel", the > greatest piece of girl-group kitsch ever! i think the flipside's the real killer...the brat/punk "Nowhere" just aching to be comped (or covered).... -dave --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:12:25 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Re Baby Jane Rashkovsky ( who lives) wrote; > I believe Bob Crewe produced something with BJ Holzer. Aha ! This would tie in with " Gonna Hurt Yourself " But where ? More problems...! Satan, let me sleep tonight.... --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 03:30:32 -0000 From: Michael Sinclair Subject: Re: from Mark Wirtz to group Thanks everyone for the kind emails. --- Luis Suarez wrote: > Welcome Mr. Wirtz! I have so many questions, about the > Matchmakers especially, but also about Father's Brown, > Judd, Samantha Jones and Kris Ife, but I'll leave them > for later. For now, thank you for the wonderful music. I look forward to your questions. One thing though - I've never heard of Father's Brown. Am I supposed to have had something to do with them? -------------- "Joseph Scott" wrote: > What kind of conversations do you remember having > with your groups about that reality, as you were > discussing approaches to take on particular recordings? > > Second question -- as far as you know, is the following > Steve Howe recollection about Tomorrow correct? "I believe > that Mark Wirtz sings the harmony that goes 'my white > bicycle'; there's a downward harmony that goes with Keith. > I think that's Mark.... [Otherwise] Keith does all the > harmonies himself...." In answer to your questions - 01 ) Frankly, neither I, nor most of the artists/musicians I worked with intellectualized much about what we were doing - we just felt it and did it. Speaking for myself, I applied prudence and measured shrewdness in some productions that were "contrived" to "please" the ears of unimaginative promo men or A&R staff. But when it came to MY kind of music, had I even dared to use logic or "reason" or "standards," my work would not only have been disasters, but never even have been possible, because it was quite "outrageous" in its day (my defiance of musical conformity was MY Rock'n'Roll, instead of screaming guitars). In fact, Geoff Emerick and I spent most of our time making the seemingly impossible possible. That was our adventure - often scary and heartbreaking when we failed, more often magical and pure ecstacy when we succeeded. 2) The harmonies to Keith's "White Bicycle"? Chances are I did sing them, as I did quite of bit of it here and there. But to be honest, I can't be sure. So, let's just say that Steve is correct, LOL -------------- Frank wrote: > A warm welcome to one of the best from a French fan. > Frank > Thank you. I didn't even know that my music was known in France. Kinda nice to hear otherwise, considering I was born near Strasbourg/Alsace. -------------- Paul Richards wrote: > > Welcome to Spectropop, Mr Wirtz, I can't tell you how much I > adore your music. It's fantastic to have contact with one > of my biggest heroes. I've just been watching a promo of > 'Teenage Opera' with Keith West in the woods surrounded by > children, unfortunately there's a synching problem with > picture & sound, but it's still great. Do you know if any > other film/tv clips exist of your work? Hello Paul, thanks for your mail. Nice to hear from you. As it were, there is a terrific 30 minute documentary on Teenage Opera, Keith and me, filmed by a Dutch TV station (a film crew visited me here for several days to shoot my interviews). There is some awesome footage in that video and never before seen clips. How to get hold of a copy? Contact Mark Stratford of RPM Records... he might be able to help you. If all else fails, contact me again, and I'll make you a copy of the original I have here. Very best to each of you! Mark --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End