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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
      1. Re: That Alan Gordon / Happy Together
           From: Steve Harvey 
      2. Re: Mary Elizabeth (& other souls)
           From: That Alan Gordon 
      3. Re: Mad for Brownsville Station / Cub Koda
           From: Marty C. 
      4. Re: Randy For Gov'nor
           From: Steve Harvey 
      5. Re: That Mark Wirtz?
           From: That Alan Gordon 
      6. Re: The Hudson Brothers
           From: Scott Charbonneau 
      7. What is this song???
           From: Tom 
      8. Re: Tim Gilbert 45
           From: Scott Charbonneau 
      9. Re: That Alan Gordon / Happy Together
           From: Scott Charbonneau 
     10. Re: That Alan Gordon / Me About You
           From: Steve Harvey 
     11. Re: The Settlers
           From: Austin Powell 
     12. Re: Happy Together / Ritchie Adams
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     13. Re: Instrumental Toons
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     14. The Laurie Records Story
           From: S'pop Team 
     15. Re: What is this song???
           From: Albin Lindstrom 
     16. Re: Ritchie Adams
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     17. Lou Adler on the Cookies
           From: Doc Rock 
     18. Re: That Mark Wirtz?
           From: Mark Wirtz 
     19. Re: Donna Lynn
           From: Fred 
     20. Re: Ritchie Adams
           From: That Alan Gordon 
     21. Re: Happy Together / Randy Monaco
           From: That Alan Gordon 
     22. Debbie Harry sings Skeeter Davis sings Carole King
           From: Mick Patrick 
     23. Instrumentals with lyrics
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     24. Maxine Brown website
           From: S'pop Team 
     25. Re: I Had Too Much To Dream (Last Night)
           From: Justin McDevitt 
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Message: 1
      Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:59:04 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Steve Harvey 
Subject: Re: That Alan Gordon / Happy Together
Alan,
Didn't the Turtles fly you guys in to perform the demo "Happy 
Together" live before they recorded it?
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Message: 2
   Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:36:33 -0700 (MST)
   From: That Alan Gordon 
Subject: Re: Mary Elizabeth (& other souls)
Bobster,
Yes indeed we wrote "Mary Elizabeth". Joe Wissert produced it 
for Hot Bisquet. The Osmonds did it before they hit it big on 
Andy Williams' label Barnaby. I still think it is a beautiful 
song (but I say that about a lot of my songs).
Take Care,
That alan gordon
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Message: 3
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 01:50:31 -0000
   From: Marty C. 
Subject: Re: Mad for Brownsville Station / Cub Koda
Bill George wrote:
> I was listening to "Mad For Me" by Brownsville Station, that 
> someone posted some time ago....
Hi Bill,
That's off their 1972 "A Night on the Town" lp. It was written by 
Pookie Shark.
An interesting visit can be made to http://www.cubkoda.com  The site 
is run by Lady J Koda, the late Mike "Cub" Koda's wife. Cub loved 
quite a varity of music & had a large record collection. He wrote a 
fun to read column for Goldmine magazine & his enthusisam for his 
subject would always show through.  Lady J is now selling his 
collection on eBay. Her ebay user ID is LJKODA. She's a delightful 
lady and is always a pleasure to deal with. I'm sure she would enjoy 
hearing from you or any of his other fans.
Regards, Marty C. in Louisville
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Message: 4
   Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:15:38 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Steve Harvey 
Subject: Re: Randy For Gov'nor
My Newman piece was originally written for the late Rick Whitesell. 
I was in a Greenwich Village record store when I overheard a guy 
said he died. Jeff Tamarkin took over and sat on the article for 6
months. I finally called and said either print it or send it back. 
They printed it.
The plug from Greil Marcus was a surprise that I didn't know about 
for several years. I had read his bit on Randy in Mystery Train and 
wanted to send him a copy. When I got a letter from him I couldn't 
make out the address due to his handwriting. I got his number and 
called him up. He said, "That's the trouble with you people in New 
England, you can't read Spanish" to which I replied, "My Spanish is 
better than your sense of geography, Delaware's not in New England!" 
He didn't hold it against me and gave me a plug. Scott Montgomery 
contacted me years later about Randy and mentioned the plug in the 
book. Scott also did a piece in Goldmine on Randy years later and it 
totally eclipsed me piece. Despite that Greil gave us both a mention 
in his 4th edition of Mystery Train.
"A Boy Like You Needs A Girl Like Me" was on a publisher's demo disc 
that was floating around. I had a snippet for years before somebody 
sent me the whole thing. I would have put it on his boxset along with
the Peggy Lee tune, but they didn't ask me. 
Some rarities on the Ranster are the 78 of Beehive State which was 
released as promo gimmick. The single versions of Last Night I Had A 
Dream and Beehive State are different from the lp versions most people 
know. 
When I interviewed Randy in 1980 there was something going on in the 
world that was creating alot of anti-USA feeling. I mentioned the 
sentiment in Let's Drop The Big One" to Randy and how it seemed to fit
the times. Sure enough Warner released a 12 inch promo of the tune 
shortly afterwards. 
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Message: 5
   Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:01:27 -0700 (MST)
   From: That Alan Gordon 
Subject: Re: That Mark Wirtz?
Mark, are you the "Teenage Opera" Mark Wirtz?
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Message: 6
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 03:55:28 -0000
   From: Scott Charbonneau 
Subject: Re: The Hudson Brothers
A couple of their tunes, Rendezvous and So You Are A Star, did 
receive a fair amount of airplay in the mid 1970s. Been a long time 
since I've heard either of them but I remember them as being well 
crafted pop with a very strong Beatles influence. During the mid to 
late 60s they recorded several singles as the New Yorkers, with one 
classic track in Mr. Kirby which has appeared on a few collections of 
obscure garage/psych material. For more information refer to Ken 
Sharp and Doug Sulpy's highly recommended tome Power Pop.
Scott
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Message: 7
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 05:59:04 -0000
   From: Tom 
Subject: What is this song???
There's a new Infiniti commercial that features what sounds 
like a late 60s Spector-esque pop song (I think its called 
"As They Fall"). I'm familiar enough with Spector's catalog 
to know its not him but I cannot for the life of me identify 
the artist. The lead singer has a distinctive baritone voice 
sounding a bit like a young Sinatra. However, judging by the 
prominence of the background vocals I'm thinking it has got 
to be a band rather than an individual.
I've been able to decipher the following lyrics underneath 
the heavy strings and narrator's voice. 
1st Verse: "Let The Wind, Sweep (Or Sleep) Away To Summer's End"
2nd Verse: "....The Autumn Leaves Will...."
Chorus: "As They Fall"
If anybody knows this song or the artist, please let me know. 
It's too intriguing to ignore.
Thanks, 
Tom
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Message: 8
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 03:59:48 -0000
   From: Scott Charbonneau 
Subject: Re: Tim Gilbert 45
Great track!!! Brings to mind a more pop oriented Tim Buckley as 
well. Any chance we can get the B-side as well?
Scott
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Message: 9
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 03:58:37 -0000
   From: Scott Charbonneau 
Subject: Re: That Alan Gordon / Happy Together
Hi Alan!
According to the liner notes of their series of reissues on 
Collectables, Randy Monaco of Mandrake Memorial sang lead on the 
Happy Together demo. Any truth to this?
Scott
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Message: 10
   Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:17:56 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Steve Harvey 
Subject: Re: That Alan Gordon / Me About You
I always thought the backing on Gary Lewis' version of "Me About You" 
was the best version. Too bad Jackie D wasn't singing on it instead of 
Mr. Reverb.
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Message: 11
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:38:35 +0100
   From: Austin Powell 
Subject: Re: The Settlers
Tony Hatch on the Settlers: 
> ...Two boys and a girl (Cindy), they were an excellent folk group but 
> perhaps a bit too close to Peter, Paul and Mary. We made some good 
> records but none took off. I wrote at least one of them - "Major To 
> Minor". Following their time at Pye they had a small hit with York 
> Records - "Lightning Tree" in 1971. 
Cindy, whose surname I still can't recall, became a dee-jay and I think 
I'm right in saying she worked for the satellite christian radio station 
UCB. The Settlers' mini-hit "The Lightning Tree" was the theme song for 
a children's TV series. York Records was a short-lived division of TV 
station Yorkshire TeleVision. The Settlers gave the label its only chart 
entry.
and Rashkovsky wrote about Cadence Records:
> I remember Jeannie Thomas always called him Mr. Bleyer--even when she 
> was speaking with other people.  Had a lot of respect for him.
Dick James was always referred to as "Mr. James" by employees of his DJM 
label in the late sixties, early seventies.  perhaps it was just all part 
of a more respectful age (?), even in the record business !
Austin
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Message: 12
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:59:37 +0100
   From: Guy Lawrence 
Subject: Re: Happy Together / Ritchie Adams
That Alan Gordon wrote:
> Martin, actually there were two demos...We made a big demo at 
> Regent Studios. Ritchie Adams arranged it. It was Ritchie who 
> came up with the guitar intro used on the Turtles record, and 
> of course we had "so how is the weather" on our demo.
Hi Alan, wonderful to have you on the group. Is that the same 
Ritchie Adams who, with Mark Barkan, wrote for the Archies and 
the Banana Splits?
Guy
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Message: 13
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:08:10 +0100
   From: Guy Lawrence 
Subject: Re: Instrumental Toons
Think we've forgotten the Routers "Lets Go (Pony)" and Preston Epps' 
"Bongo Rock".
Guy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TweedleeDumsDrive-In/
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Message: 14
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:29:30 +0100
   From: S'pop Team 
Subject: The Laurie Records Story
Spectropop Recommends:
"The Laurie Records Story, Vol 2: The Ernie Maresca Years"
...exciting doo-wop...girl group angst...soul...novelty records
...quality pop... 
Ernie Maresca wrote a ton of great songs, "The Wanderer" and 
"Runaround Sue" among them. These aren't on Ace Records' new CD 
but 26 other Maresca compositions are. Martin Roberts, taking a 
rare break from his Jack Nitzsche pages, is your reviewer: 
http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/index.htm#LaurieStory
Enjoy!
The S'pop Team
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Message: 15
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:40:24 -0000
   From: Albin Lindstrom 
Subject: Re: What is this song???
Tom wrote:
> There's a new Infiniti commercial that features what sounds like 
> a late 60s Spector-esque pop song (I think its called "As They 
> Fall"). If anybody knows this song or the artist, please let me 
> know. It's too intriguing to ignore.
Hi
The lyrics you mention seem very familiar to the song "A Summer Song" 
by the soft pop duo Chad and Jeremy. But I haven't seen the 
commercial so I am not sure, I do know however that this song has
been used for a commercial recently, so maybe it's the one.
Albin
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Message: 16
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:53:11 EDT
   From: Mike Rashkow 
Subject: Re: Ritchie Adams
Guy:
> Hi Alan, wonderful to have you on the group. Is that the same 
> Ritchie Adams who, with Mark Barkan, wrote for the Archies and 
> the Banana Splits?
For us old folks, Ritchie Adams goes as far back as being the lead 
singer on The Fireflies, "You Were Mine". A real oldie/goodie.
I only knew him to say hello, but I remember that he was very 
committed to furthering his career, and while he was around doing 
demos and writing he was also studying music diligently. I found 
that unusual--no one else I knew except Jeannie Thomas was really 
"studying" music. Everybody else was "doing" at whatever level of 
competence they could develop.   
I note that Ritchie ultimately did film scores, there lies the 
value of learning and knowing.
Rashkovsky
still trying to figure out an 11th
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Message: 17
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:47:00 -0400
   From: Doc Rock 
Subject: Lou Adler on the Cookies
>From "Liberty Records", 1993, Doc Rock.
Releasing demos was not that unusual. Lou Adler, "We had a label called 
Dimension. A lot of our demos came out on Dimension. If no one would do 
a song we felt strongly about, we'd put the demo out. Like the Bobby Vee 
single that Carole King had a hit with. 'Locomotion' by Little Eva was 
written for Dee Dee Sharp. All of the Cookies' records ["Chains," Don't 
Say Nothin' Bad About My Baby"] were originally written for Philadelphia 
artists. Any time no one would do it, we'd put it out."
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Message: 18
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:55:50 -0400
   From: Mark Wirtz 
Subject: Re: That Mark Wirtz?
That Alan Gordon asked:
> Mark, are you the "Teenage Opera" Mark Wirtz?
Yep, I'm the guilty one :)
Mark
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Message: 19
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:39:02 -0000
   From: Fred 
Subject: Re: Donna Lynn
Andres wrote:
> Check Photos section for a new /old pic of the fabulous Donna Lynn.
Check out the photos section for an even newer pic of Donna Lynn. 
Donna began her career on Broadway, first appearing with Maureen 
O'Hara in CHRISTINE in the early part of 1960, where she used 
the "Donna Lyn" spelling: http://www.ibdb.com/production.asp?ID=2245
The latter photo is from a 1970s (or '80s?) Chrismas album she did 
on her independent DonnaLyn label.
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Message: 20
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:55:26 -0700 (MST)
   From: That Alan Gordon 
Subject: Re: Ritchie Adams
Guy wrote:
> Is that the same Ritchie Adams who wrote for the Archies and
> Banana Splits?                   
That indeed is the same Ritchie Adams. He also wrote "Tossin and 
Turnin" and "After The Lovin" and of course sng lead on the 
Firefllies' record "You Were Mine".
That alan gordon
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Message: 21
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:04:31 -0700 (MST)
   From: That Alan Gordon 
Subject: Re: Happy Together / Randy Monaco
Scott wrote:
> did Randy Monaco sing on the Happy Together Demo?
With a voice as good as Garry Bonner, we would rarely use another 
to sing on our demos, especially that one.
That alan gordon     
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Message: 22
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:04:50 +0100
   From: Mick Patrick 
Subject: Debbie Harry sings Skeeter Davis sings Carole King
The S'pop Team wrote:
> Skeeter Davis "The Pop Hits Collection" CD - Five Goffin/King 
> songs? Not to mention "Remember (Walkin' In The Sand)", "Under 
> The Boardwalk" and "What Am I Gonna Do With You (Hey Baby)"? 
> Taragon have released a CD made in heaven for S'pop types. 
> New contributor Jeffery Kennedy is your reviewer:
> http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/index.htm#SkeeterDavis
Indeed, Skeeter Davis was *born* to sing Carole King tunes. Heck, 
her version of "Easy To Love" is even better than the Chiffons!
Alas, Carole's name is not mentioned in Skeeter's autobiography 
Bus Fair To Kentucky. Otherwise it's a very good read. I eagerly 
await the arrival of my copy of "The Pop Hits Collection".
Has anyone heard Debbie Harry's version of Skeeter's "My Last Date 
With You" (itself an answer-record to Floyd Cramer's "Last Date)?
'Tis the bee's knees.
Oh well, back to my 12" of "Good Boys".
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 23
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:21:18 +0100
   From: Ken Silverwood 
Subject: Instrumentals with lyrics
I recall Country Paul saying he always thought of Duane Eddy's guitar 
as his voice, which reminded me that James Darren did a vocal for 
"Because They're Young" which I think was from a film of the same title. 
Which then made me think how many other instrumentals were later given 
lyrics. Just two off the top of my head: The Drifters' "Stranger On The 
Shore" and Bobby Rydell's "Telstar" or "Magic Star".  Any others?
Ken On The West Coast
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Message: 24
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:29:30 +0100
   From: S'pop Team 
Subject: Maxine Brown website
Dear Members,
Legendary soul singer Maxine Brown - "All In My Mind", "Oh No 
Not My Baby", "Funny" - has a new website. Take a look:
http://www.maxinebrown.com/
Be sure to check out the photo gallery for some 1960s shots 
of the lovely lady with the Ronettes and the Crystals.
Enjoy!
The S'pop Team
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Message: 25
   Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:51:52 -0700
   From: Justin McDevitt 
Subject: Re: I Had Too Much To Dream (Last Night)
Hello Spectropop,
This track, along with "7 Plus 7 Is" by Arthur Lee and Love were 
my real introduction to the "psychedelic sound", though elements 
of this genre had appeared in various other pieces of music that 
pre-dated these two tracks. Nonetheless, both these tracks were a 
real musical revelation to me.
Preston, Welcome to the group.
Justin McDevitt
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