________________________________________________________________________ SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop! ________________________________________________________________________ There are 26 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. The earth-shattering important "Henry The 8th". God save us. From: Michael Fishberg 2. Re: The End of Albums From: Scott 3. Re: Tom Wilson / Sound Of Silence From: Paul Underwood 4. Re: The End of Albums From: Scott Charbonneau 5. Re: Tom Wilson / Sound Of Silence From: Fred 6. Lynsey / Lesley / Gay Songs From: Keith Moore 7. Inquiring minds... From: Jon Adelson 8. PBS fundraiser From: Watson Macblue 9. R. I. P. David Hemmings From: Steve Harvey 10. Re: Sid Bernstein From: Jon Adelson 11. Tutti Frutti. From: Julio Niño 12. Re: Tom Wilson / Sound Of Silence From: JB 13. Re: The earth-shattering important "Henry The 8th". God save us. From: Mikey 14. Re: Obscurities; Yom Kippur music From: Jerry Lintelf 15. Re: Glen's Mug From: Bill Brown 16. Re: Eddie Smith From: Andrew Jones 17. Snuff Garrett From: Artie Wayne 18. Mr. Turnkey From: Phil Milstein 19. Re: The first song to use a synthesizer From: Rat Pfink 20. Re: British Invasion redux From: Jake 21. Master Use but not Master Access From: Rex Strother 22. Re: Tom Wilson / Sound Of Silence From: Mikey 23. Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures From: Bob Rashkow 24. MOOOOOGZZZZZZZZZZ.......... From: Simon White 25. Re: First synth From: John Fox 26. Re: The first song to use a synthesizer From: Billy G. Spradlin ________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 04:23:09 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Fishberg Subject: The earth-shattering important "Henry The 8th". God save us. Mikey wrote: > "I'm Henry The Eighth" is such a swinging record it's unbelievable. > And it doesn't hurt that Jimmy Page's Guitar solo really smokes, > along with Clem Cattini's great drumming. Mike McKay: > I know that Page and others played on a LOT of Herman's Hermits > tracks, but I've always understood that "Henry" was among the few on > which The Hermits actually played their own instruments ("I'm Into > Something Good" was another). It certainly sounds like Lek Lekenby's > guitar style. UK artists Joe Brown and the Bruvvers had the original pre-Hermits hit with "I'm 'Enery The Eigth I Am". Michael Fishberg -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:02:54 EST From: Scott Subject: Re: The End of Albums Previously; > Record sales are down by almost a third from a few years ago, and > with the downloading of music by the song off the web from places > like Apple's music site, it seems that today's buyers are > bypassing the whole notion of album oriented purchasing and just > compiling their music song by song. And I honestly feel that > listening to a vinyl album, pulled out of that big cardboard sleeve > with the square foot of artwork on it, and flipped over manually at > the end of side one, just has a completely different vibe to it > than listening to a CD, and I'm not talking about an aural > experience. As the father of a 13 year old I suspect the decline in CD sales has a great deal to do with pricing. The record industry has nobody to blame but themselves for the current situation. Selling a CD for $12 - $18 is plain stupid and it shouldn't come as a shock that many folks aren't willing to pay those prices. My 13 year would love to buy more CDs but he can't afford to on his allowance. Any surprise that he's much more selective in buying stuff? He's also turned to alternative sources for scoring music. We won't let him burn stuff of the internet, however we do allow him to buy used CDs at stores, yardsales and fleamarkets where he seems to find stuff in the $2 - $5 range versus store prices. In contrast when I was a teenager and albums cost $4 - $5 I could afford to buy 2 - 03 LPs at once. That also gave me the freedom to buy stuff that I might not have heard ... Just my two cents worth. Scott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:34:06 +0100 From: Paul Underwood Subject: Re: Tom Wilson / Sound Of Silence Art Longmire: > Do you mean Mike Bloomfield, Al Kooper, etc. who backed Dylan on > "Like a Rolling Stone" did the backing for "Sounds of Silence"? I > think you should question your sources...That Dylan session is one > of the best documented in history and I've never heard anyone > involved in it mention a Simon and Garfunkel connection. I can't believe Mike Bloomfield and Al Kooper had anything to do with "The sound of silence". I found a Simon and Garfunkel site: http://www.vex.net/~paulmac/simon/simon64_71.html that lists the following on the track: Al Gorgoni - guitar; Bob Bushnell - bass; Bobby Gregg - drums. And in December 1964, the same Bobby Gregg played on the session where Dylan's "House of the Rising Sun" was overdubbed to make it sound like the Animals. Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:30:30 -0000 From: Scott Charbonneau Subject: Re: The End of Albums Don Charles: > What do y'all think about this? How will the death of albums > impact those of us who collect vintage pop and rock? Makes sense to me. When you take into consideration all of the "advances" in the way music is listened to and acquired, there is no doubt that we are moving away from the "collecting" culture as we know it. Given that the current generation of music listeners are the ones who have most readily embraced the ideas of file sharing and downloading it is no surprise at all that they have absolutely no idea about what it is like to purchase a 45 or LP where you just could not wait to get home, slip it out of the bag, slit the shrink wrap and slap in onto your turntable. The totality of such an experience is something that today's music consumers will never know, and nor will they care to because music is never more than a mouse click away for them. For older listeners like ourselves, that experience is something that we'll continue to savor and hold onto for as long as it is possible. Scott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:33:24 -0000 From: Fred Subject: Re: Tom Wilson / Sound Of Silence Previously: > Now I agree that the electric guitar on "The Sounds of Silence" > sounds nothing like something Mike Bloomfield would do -- though > it's just as possible that he was not the only electric guitarist > on "Like a Rolling Stone." It's also possible that these authors > have merely repeated a story told by others that is inaccurate. > > But nevertheless, the story has been told -- and more than once. > To set this right, it would be good to see a *complete* list of > the musicians who played on "Like a Rolling Stone." As Art says, > that seems like something that would be easily obtainable. Or to > come at it from the other direction, are the musicians on the > "Sounds of Silence" electric overdub session listed anywhere -- > the Simon and Garfunkel box set, perhaps? As I understand it, Vinnie Bell was in on the "Sounds Of Silence" session. I recall reading somewhere that when Simon appeared on SHINDIG(?), Paul went over over the guitar arrangements with the shows session players, one of whom was Bell. Vinnie assured Paul that he already knew the arrangement because he played at the overdub session. Vinnie Bell ranks as one of the most prolific session guitarists ever, and is a personal favorite. On his 1964 Verve album, WHISTLE STOP, he mentioned that he was looking over the Top 50 songs for a recent week, and noted that he played on 32 of them! If that's not prolific, I don't know what is. Bell learned from the best teachers in the business, ...Tony Mottola, Carmen Mastron, Everett Barksdale, and Mickey Baker. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:05:11 -0000 From: Keith Moore Subject: Lynsey / Lesley / Gay Songs I agree with Mark Frumento's views on Lynsey De Paul's "Ooh I Do" - an excellent Spector soundalike. I have a soft spot for Lynsey - I used to cut pictures of her out of the Daily Mirror and stick them on my bedroom wall! Back in 1972 I didn't quite understand the lyrics to her hit "Getting A Drag", which would fit quite nicely into the gay songs list. Lynsey gives her boyfriend the push when he becomes just a bit too girly for her tastes - "I thought you were a brother/But you turned out like my mother/And it's getting a drag" - "Most people make up when they break up/But we break up cos you make up". An example of a 60s-influenced lesbian song can be found on the soundtrack to the Brill Building film "Grace of My Heart". Bridget Fonda played a lesbian Lesley Gore-ish type singer, for whom the song "My Secret Love" is written - "Girls like me/Have to hide our hearts away" - sung by Miss Lily Banquette of Combustible Edison and co-written by none other than........Lesley Gore. A good account of lots of gay (or possibly gay) songs can be found in "Rock On The Wild Side" by Wayne Studer, published in 1994. He includes "House of the Rising Sun" and pretty much anything else you could think of (although not "Getting A Drag" or the Dickies slightly bizarre punk track "Going Homo"). -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:49:47 -0000 From: Jon Adelson Subject: Inquiring minds... At the risk of totally exposing my stupidity (as well as being somewhat off topic), I gotta ask: is there a relationship between Mick Patrick's "hey la" and Rashkovsky's "di la?" Jon Adelson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 07:57:21 -0800 (PST) From: Watson Macblue Subject: PBS fundraiser Bill Craig wrote: > Did anyone catch the latest PBS fundraising special that featured > Gerry Marsden and a version of Manfred Mann called The Manfreds > that included 3 out of 5 of the original members (no Manfred Mann > or Mike Vickers)? ...Check it out if you have the chance. Phew. It really did happen, then; I thought I was hallucinating. This was the slimmed-down, bargain-basement edition of The Manfreds, with only (only!!!???) Paul Jones and Tom McGuinness (and, I think, just possibly, Mike D'Abo lurking in the background on one of the keyboards) from the old days. Because of the commitments of the various guys concerned, the personnel fluctuates wildly, but when everyone's present, The Manfreds are a bona-fide supergroup. There is an utterly wonderful live 2-CD Manfreds set doing the rounds that has Benny Gallagher on bass, Mike Vickers, Mike Hugg, Tom McGuinness, Mike D'Abo and Paul Jones. No Manfred Mann, who hasn't played with them in upwards of 20 years. However, every true Spectropopper should get this set and find out just what a Good Time can still be. I'm serious, folks - it's that good. The truly scary thing about The Manfreds is Paul Jones. I swear that man has a painting in his attic. He's got to be in his early 60s, and he would easily pass for 40. Tom McGuiness looked like his father. And Paul has kept it all together, too; check out the live set for great vocals and simply superb harmonica breaks. Wow. Mike D'Abo's voice has mellowed into something a little rougher than of old, but he's still got it. Great to hear *both* ex-Manfred Mann front men in the same show. Nobody could ever have convinced me up front that one of the best performers in the PBS thrash would be - good God - Brian Hyland, but it's true. He sounded great. I'm still not sure about the 16-going-on-62 looks (I should talk ...), but a big surprise, and a big hand from me. Lesley Gore basically phoned in Maybe I Know and looked eerily like my mortgage broker; Gerry Marsden looks like his diet has been mainly helium and yeast for the last 35 years (no surprise that he's since had a huge heart attack), though the voice is still there. Gary U.S. Bonds remains a great good-time yeller (and nothing wrong with that); Darlene Love (genuflect) was sent directly from God, no arguments. But poor old Bo Diddley is way past his sell-by (I felt embarrassed for him), and even Jerry Lee is starting to fray at the edges. At his best, Jerry Lee looked like the weird uncle who lurked in the toolshed when the cute nieces came by, but he's definitely starting to morph into Crazy Old Overweight Guy (again, I should talk). These PBS specials are always a bit of a grab-bag, but this was the best ever; it's sad that it wasn't particularly successful as a fund-raiser. The last Doo-Wop marathon was a genuine horror, with some of the artists yanked out of retirement homes on two sticks, croaking their last (and they got duly name-checked in the unintentionally ironic "in memoriam" segment of the Thanksgiving show). The presence of The Manfreds on this show did make me think it was time that something similar got made in Britain before it's too late. There are still crediblve incarnations of some of the great 60s bands working the cabaret circuit - the Swinging Blue Jeans, the Searchers, the Rockin' Berries, even (yeah, I know - dubba-dubba-dubba-cha) the Troggs; and the methods of the US shows (money? threats? We Have The Negatives?) might be used to bring people like the Ivy League and (please, please, please) the Peddlers out of retirement. But, like I said, Paul Jones is *how* old again?? I'm covering up the mirrors. Watson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:43:41 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: R. I. P. David Hemmings Country Paul: > "David Hemmings, the British actor who starred in > the 1966 film "Blow Up," has died while filming a > movie in Romania. He was 62. I remember talking to McGuinn once about the Hemmings LP that the Byrds did (well, Roger and Christ with some tunes from Gene). Little more than a cash-in on the Blow Up craze, but an interesting item for Byrd completists. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:47:20 -0000 From: Jon Adelson Subject: Re: Sid Bernstein Phil Milstein : > I don't really know much about him, other than that anecdote > and some of the background info on the Beatles' tours. Ruth's > story makes him sound like one of the good guys. Can Mike, or > anyone else, offer a word or two about Sid Bernstein? I was raised in Newport, Rhode Island, and in high school I was part of a Kingston Trio clone-type group that was pretty popular locally. In the early 60s (can't remember which year -- good grief), a young Sid Bernstein put on the Newport Jazz Festival. Riots had broken out at the previous year's festival and one our group's members (Bill Thomas) wrote a satire (using The Battle of New Orleans as a vehicle) called The Battle of Freebody Park (where the festival was held at that time). Because the riots were so much the talk of the town, the song was a big hit at our various local gigs. Somehow someone got the word out to Sid about us, and darned if an "audition" wasn't set up -- in my parent's living room! He liked the song, and actually arranged to have us perform it during one of the afternoon shows of the festival. The music, of course, was a mismatch, but humor can be a big equalizer. Sid was rotund, gracious, and warm, and said if we ever needed anything in New York, to contact him. A short time later, we competed in a local talent contest whose first prize was a trip to NYC to audition for the Ted Mack Amateur Hour. We won the contest and called Sid to tell him we'd be in the city. He said to call him when we were there and let him know how we did. After we auditioned, it was one of those "don't call us, we'll call you" scenarios, and we told this to Sid. Shortly thereafter, he called us back and said he had contacted the show, and that we didn't make it because we were too Kingston Trio-like; however, he said he could arrange a second audition! We were grateful but respectfully passed (we figured if we went again, we'd still be too Kingston Trio- like), but we were so impressed by Sid's congeniality and generosity of time. A quick additional note: one of the perks of playing the festival (and knowing Sid) was getting some tickets, and I got to see an afternoon performance by Judy Garland (I remember railings were set up across the front of the stage). I had my camera, and was in the front section of the audience (thanks of course to Sid). They were just starting a number, and I walked up the aisle to get a great picture. I wasn't aware that Ms. Garland did not allow pictures (or perhaps it was just nearby audience movement that she didn't allow). I had moved just past Sid to get in position to take my picture when I heard him say in a loud whisper, "No, Jon!". By then it was too late. Ms. Garland spotted me and told the band to stop the music (see "mortified" in the dictionary). She looked straight at me and said, "Go ahead, take the picture." I did, of course, and then about faced and tried to disappear from the planet. Sid, of course, was fine about it; he knew I didn't know better. When I was in NYC in the late 60s looking for fame and fortune, I contacted him a few times. He was of course much busier and less readily accessible, this being post-Beatles and in the heart of the Young Rascals era. But I did get some original material to him, and he did respond. Unfortunately for me, he wasn't blown away by it. In my experience I found him to be one of the good guys. Jon Adelson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:37:46 -0000 From: Julio Niño Subject: Tutti Frutti. James Botticelli wrote: > Is that the same rekkid done by the Wildweeds and then > Jimmy James & The Vagabonds? Great rekkid. Mike Rashkow: > Don't know. It was written by Al Anderson ... Probably, it must be the same song, because The Jimmy James song (which I love) is also a song written by Al Anderson. Ian Chapman wrote: > ... the album opens with Robert Orsi > (of the Scratch Band) doing "He Hit Me"... The mention of "He Hit Me" brings to mind some early sixties songs with SM ("Sadomaso" as we say in Spanish) connotations, like Brian Hyland's "Let Me Belong To You", Jess Conrad's "Hurt Me" (produced by Joe Meek) or Little Eva's "Please Hurt Me". I always find a bit of perversity wrapped in an innocent package very sexy. Could anybody add some more examples?. Changing completely the subject. I'm going to travel on holidays this Christmas to LA, and I would like to know some adresses of good records shops to buy oldies music. I would be very grateful if you all could suggest some places to look around. You can answer me off-list. Thanks in advance. Julio Niño. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:36:00 EST From: JB Subject: Re: Tom Wilson / Sound Of Silence Al Kooper is still alive and well, so maybe somebody with access could ask him to clarify what he knows about who overdubbed Sound Of Silence and other tracks on the S&G album. JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:28:02 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: The earth-shattering important "Henry The 8th". God save us. Mike McKay: > I know that Page and others played on a LOT of Herman's Hermits > tracks, but I've always understood that "Henry" was among the few on > which The Hermits actually played their own instruments ("I'm Into > Something Good" was another). It certainly sounds like Lek Lekenby's > guitar style. Nope.....Page himself said in an interview he played the guitar solo on "Henry". Said it was amono to mono overdub session as well, which means the only way to get a stereo mix would be to sync the tapes. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:05:52 -0800 (PST) From: Jerry Lintelf Subject: Re: Obscurities; Yom Kippur music Bob Rashkow: > My own Jewish background enables me to appreciate recordings > such as The Electric Prunes' "Release of an Oath", their own > LP based on the Yom Kippur service, at least the Kol Nidray > atonement prayer. Of course there is the very famous (and still in print) 1930s recording by Pablo Casals playing cello of the Bruch (not Jewish composer) version of the Kol Nidre prayer. Truly awesome and one of the most moving recordings of all time. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:35:00 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Brown Subject: Re: Glen's Mug Alan Gordon: > Just a thought... I'm not sure that's a real color photo. Actually, mug-shots are not supposed to be happily posed professional portraits in the first place, you should expect Glen to be grim. I don't think anyone would be happy having their photo in a police mug book. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:12:11 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Jones Subject: Re: Eddie Smith About Eddie Smith: I remember that two of my favorite pre-S'pop tracks, "Rave On" and "That's My Desire" by Buddy Holly, were recorded at Bell Sound - was Eddie Smith involved in either of these? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:39:28 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Snuff Garrett Does anyone know what Snuff Garrett [who produced Bobby Vee, Gary Lewis and the playboys] is up to these days? regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:08:19 -0500 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Mr. Turnkey Now playing at musica is Zager & Evans' remarkably bizarre "Mister Turkey" ... I mean, "Turnkey." Enjoy, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:20:54 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: The first song to use a synthesizer Rat Pfink wrote: > I believe it's called a Clavioline. James Botticelli wrote: > Close.... Just remembered, actually I believe its called an > Ondioline. At least that's what Kai Winding used on "More". You are correct in the case of "More" by Kai Winding, however a Clavioline was used on "Telstar". More info on the two instruments is available here: http://www.clavioline.com/ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:55:12 -0000 From: Jake Subject: Re: British Invasion redux John Berg: > The Manfreds have in fact been going gangbusters in the UK > for several years now, doing annual tours all over the country. > They are usually paired up with several other top UK artists > best known from their '60s work, such as Colin Blunstone, > Cliff Bennett and the Rebel Rousers, etc. These gents are among > my all-time fave singers -- wish I could catch one of their gigs! You can still catch "one of their gigs", John. Colin Blunstone & Rod Argent (along with Jim and Steve Rodford & Keith Airey) will be in the U.S. as follows: Fri 02/06/04 Stamford, CT Palace Theatre Sat 02/07/04 Atlantic City, NJ Trump Marina Sun 02/08/04 Farmingdale, NY Downtown Wed 02/11/04 New York, NY B.B. King's Blues Club Thu 02/12/04 Annapolis, MD Ramshead Fri 02/13/04 Charlotte, NC Amos' Southend Sun 02/22/04 Austin, TX Antone's Thu 02/26/04 San Pedro, CA Warner Grand Theatre Fri 02/27/04 West Hollywood, CA Key Club Sat 02/28/04 San Juan Capistrano, CA Coach House Sun 02/29/04 San Francisco, CA The Independent (venue is under construction....really). Jake -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:56:57 -0700 From: Rex Strother Subject: Master Use but not Master Access Phil Milstein: > On paper, this does sound like a great idea. But I think > the sticking point would be ithe fact that music publishing > is not dependent on the existence and location of a "hard copy" > of the music -- in other words a master tape. You have a good point about accessing the masters, but even today - when you request and receive a Master Use License, all you have is the "approval" to put that sound recording on your CD. A Master Use License doesn't give you access to the master at all. You then have to come up with the "sound recording" (whether you restore it from vinyl or head for the master tapes). That's a separate charge. When I was thinking of producing an RCA-produced Bell Sister CD, they wanted a $1.00 per unit "master use" fee, with a guaranty of 10,000 units being sold. Well, the Bells, love 'em dearly, weren't gonna hit 10,000. On top of that was a $3,000 "mastering" charge to transfer their master tapes (25 songs). But RCA/BMG did not insist on this as part of the Master Use - if I could come up with a master some other way, it mattered not to them. So I say, if the Master Use is not reliant on accessing the master tape (and some tapes just don't exist anymore - a la Gold Star's fire - or as noted, the studio couldn't find the master "with both hands" as the insult goes), then let us restore them from vinyl and just pay the smaller "statutory" charge. Maybe I should be preaching to RIAA instead of the choir? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:19:50 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Tom Wilson / Sound Of Silence Fred Clemens: > Vinnie Bell ranks as one of the most prolific session guitarists > ever, and is a personal favorite. On his 1964 Verve album, WHISTLE > STOP, he mentioned that he was looking over the Top 50 songs for a > recent week, and noted that he played on 32 of them! What kind of LP is "Whistle Stop" Folk?? thanks, Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:16:09 EST From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures Thank you, Richard Havers, I stand corrected!!! Rupert's People charting in Britain must have been a very wishful fantasy I had!!! We loved "Honey", Dickey Lee's "Patches", the other one by Clarence Carter, the somewhat morbid "The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia", here in the States. So never let it be said, as I almost did, that the UK has a monopoly on "sad"!!! Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:43:43 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: MOOOOOGZZZZZZZZZZ.......... I was with Dr Moog just two weeks ago at a seminar in Cape Town. If only we'd had this thread a month ago I could have asked him questions then and we could have put an end to this. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:11:39 EST From: John Fox Subject: Re: First synth Previously: > Close.... Just remembered, actually I believe its called an > Ondioline. At least that's what Kai Winding used on "More". *I swear we've had this discussion earlier this year (or last). The Ondioline sounds different from the "Telstar" and "More" lead keyboard instruments (always thought it was strange that Winding, a trombonist, had a song that so strongly featured keyboards--of course, Dave Clark, Paul Revere, Bob Kuban, Harold Melvin, Billy ward et al weren't lead singers). Anyway, Al Kooper is known for using the ondioline with The Blues Project ("Fly Away"), Super Session and the Live Adventures of Al & Bloomfield (two songs with "Holy Modal" in the titles). As long as we're trying to find old synths, what about the Theremin in "Good Vibrations" and featured by Lothar & The Hand People? John Fox *Admin: This subject has indeed been raised previously on S'pop, starting at http://www.spectropop.com/archive/digest/d812.htm Checkout http://www.maxcrook.com - including an entire page devoted to "Runaway". And take a look at the "who played what" page on http://www.combo-organ.com/discography.htm -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 26 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:01:27 -0000 From: Billy G. Spradlin Subject: Re: The first song to use a synthesizer I have a album from the mid 50s called "The RCA Synthesiser" but it's more of an experimental LP than pop. You can see pictures of it at http://www.obsolete.com/120_years/machines/rca/ This huge tube-based machine made simple bleeps and bloops that any 20 dollar keyboard that's made for kids can make now. I think the first synth album I heard was Perrey - Kingsley's "The In Sound From Way Out!" It was used a lot on 60's TV advertising for kids games and toys. Walter/Wendy Carlos "Switched on Bach" is also a favorite from my childhood because my grade school library had a copy. More childhood synth favorites: Todd Rundgren's "Breathless" (from his classic "Something/Anything? LP) Hot Butter's "Popcorn" and Edgar Winter's "Frankenstein". I've read for years the Monkees used a Moog on thier "Birds Bees & The Monkees" album - it was recorded in 1967. They may have been the first major group to use one. Billy http://listen.to/jangleradio -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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