Spectropop - Digest Number 1171

• From: Spectropop Group
• Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003

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There are 6 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re; It all began when Ronnie sang Be My Baby
           From: John Love 
      2. Re: It all began when Ronnie sang Be My Baby
           From: Vlaovic B 
      3. Special Spector request
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
      4. Duprees on Columbia
           From: Mark 
      5. Re: Casey Kasem
           From: Bill Brown 
      6. Re: The End of Albums
           From: JB 


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Message: 1
   Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 03:32:18 -0600
   From: John Love 
Subject: Re; It all began when Ronnie sang Be My Baby

As one who was there at the time, and who never tires of listening to
the Ronettes' recordings 40 years on, I think that describing Ronnie as
a rock star at all, let alone the first [Connie Francis, Brenda Lee,
Darlene Love (?)....] is going a bit far. Ronnie was part of a group
that burned brightly very briefly [only one top ten hit remember] and
like all the other girl groups' lead singers, she was never promoted
individually, even though she may have been the only Ronette singing on
the records. Even the half hearted "featuring Veronica" only got tacked
on to the last singles, at which point it was all over. I suspect that
most of the fans who bought "Be My Baby" didn't even know here name, any
more than they knew the names of the lead singers of the Essex,
Chiffons, Shangri-Las, Crystals etc. There were no solo hits and only a
few dreary albums. She may be a star in the hearts of us ageing
Spectroppers, but let's get a little perspective on this. Journalistic
hype indeed.

John 

PS David Hemmings sang the role of Miles in the original production of
Britten's The Turn of the Screw, and is on the recording conducted by
Britten, as Bill George points out.



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Message: 2
   Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:56:26 -0500
   From: Vlaovic B 
Subject: Re: It all began when Ronnie sang Be My Baby

> Ronnie as the first female rock star? Gimme a break!
> What about Brenda Lee?
> 
> Oh those sleazeball journos always trying to hype everything up.

Correct, but Lee was always on the country side of rock whereas 
Ronnie was more urban.  In any case Ronnie Spector gave a fantastic 
concert in Toronto last night.  The opening act was not impressive, 
but once Ronnie took the stage there was a smile on my face a yard 
wide!  Her voice is still so impressive.  The set list began with 
(oh, trying to remember...) with Sleigh Ride, from there she segued 
into 'Do I Love You'...in no particular order (but trying to be in 
the order performed) the rest of the set continued with a Christmas 
song identified with Frankie Lyman (I didn't recognize it) 'Recipe 
For Love' - noted as having been recorded when she was 15 or so for 
Colpix, Say Goodbye to Hollywood, Chapel of Love (Just like the 
Ronettes original arrangement, introduced as something she's done 
twice but would rather forget the first time), I Wish I Never Saw 
the Sunshine, So Young, Best Part of Breaking up (with a metal edge), 
Try some, buy some (odd choice that!), Baby I Love You, Walking in 
the Rain (marred only by her stock comment that she'd heard it in 
the mall earlier that day), Frosty the Snowman, She Talks to Rainbows, 
You Can't Put Your Arms Around a Memory, Be My Baby, Encores.....
I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa claus, I Can Hear Music. I Know I'm missing 
a Few, but it really was a terrific show!



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Message: 3
   Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:49:55 -0000
   From: Kingsley Abbott 
Subject: Special Spector request

Dear Spectropopers,

I am involved with a Phil Spector book project for next year
and I would like to include a knowledgable fan based list of PS
produced favourites. Please could as many of you as possible
email me directly (OFF LIST) with your (ordered) top ten choices 
(and your fave off the Christmas album) so that I can compile a 
comprehensive list - the more of you who respond the better, for
obvious reasons, so please take a moment or two and email me
your choices.  I will collate and post the results after Christmas.

THANK YOU in advance for responding!

Have a great Christmas everyone.

Kingsley Abbott



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Message: 4
   Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:48:49 -0000
   From: Mark 
Subject: Duprees on Columbia

The Duprees recorded 11 tracks, 05 singles and 1 unreleased song on 
Columbia. All of them are very good, different from their earlier 
sound, more like a Jay and the Americans sound.



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Message: 5
   Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:24:02 -0800 (PST)
   From: Bill Brown 
Subject: Re: Casey Kasem

I'm not really much of a Casey Kasem fan, but remember how the 
Shadoe Stevens show was supposed to take over. Well Shadoe's show 
is long gone and Casey is still around. I am sure that Casey will 
find another distributor to keep his show going.



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Message: 6
   Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:48:12 EST
   From: JB 
Subject: Re: The End of Albums

The Koobas (Kubas) album on UK Columbia features bits of narrative 
between (some of) the songs.... fortunately not too irritating, 
some even humorous!

JB



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