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Spectropop - Digest Number 1264



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               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!
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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Austin Roberts and Scooby-Doo
           From: David Coyle 
      2. Re: Since Gary Went In The Navy
           From: John Sellards 
      3. Re: Since Gary Went In The Navy
           From: Dan Hughes 
      4. Re: Stupid songs
           From: Paul Bryant 
      5. Re: Brown Eyed Handsome Man
           From: Paul Bryant 
      6. Re: Flower Girl
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
      7. Re: On record collecting
           From: Paul Bryant 
      8. Re: Neon Philharmonic: madness or genius?
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
      9. Re: 2 versions of "Double Shot" by Swingin' Medallions
           From: John Fox 
     10. Re: Since Gary Went In The Navy - Marcy Joe
           From: Austin Roberts 
     11. Introducing "Dr. Mark"
           From: Dr. Mark 
     12. Re: Don Costa; Danny Williams
           From: Steveo 
     13. Re: Mary In The Morning
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     14. Gerri Granger
           From: Mick Patrick 
     15. Delurking for a small query
           From: William Murphy 
     16. Re: Collecting records and gender.
           From: Mike 
     17. Re: Thanks
           From: Paul Levinson 
     18. Re:  answer songs
           From: Anthony James 
     19. Re: Chuck Berry's best/Austin Roberts
           From: Dave Heasman 
     20. Re: Thanks Austin
           From: Austin Roberts 
     21. 2003 top 10 albums
           From: Bill George 
     22. Re: Mary In The Morning
           From: Mikey 
     23. Re: Compatible Stereo
           From: Robert R. Radil 
     24. Marcy Joe
           From: Ed Rambeau 
     25. This Diamond Ring / The Outsiders / Virginia Wolves / Vinyl Junkies
           From: Mark 


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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:23:29 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: Austin Roberts and Scooby-Doo Wow. That's great to know. One thing I like about the original "Scooby-Doo" theme song is that it is actually a song. Does that make any sense? I guess a lot of the great TV themes had a full structure to them, but a lot of TV music was more incidental, like the one or two line jingles on commercials. One of my favorite parts to the SD theme was the middle-eight. I don't know all the words, but the last part of the line is "...you're gonna get a Scooby Snack -- and that's a fact!" That part of the song rocks. It's great to see that you have more of a musical history, and that you're not only known for "Scooby-Doo" (although I'm sure most people don't even know who did the song). Here's my big question though -- Was "Scooby Snack" in any way euphemistic? David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:46:26 -0000 From: John Sellards Subject: Re: Since Gary Went In The Navy Austin Roberts: > Hey, does anybody know of a record called "Since Gary Went In The > Navy" (about Gary Troxel of the Fleetwoods)? I think Billy Meshel > wrote it, but I can't remember who sung it. I think it was Diane > something. I'll send this on to Gretchen Christopher, whom I have been trying to get to join this list...she may know. John Sellards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:47:15 -0600 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Re: Since Gary Went In The Navy Austin Roberts: > Hey, does anybody know of a record called "Since Gary Went In The > Navy" (about Gary Troxel of the Fleetwoods)? I think Billy Meshel > wrote it, but I can't remember who sung it. I think it was Diane > something. Austin, it brushed the bottom of the charts in July/August 1961. By Marcy Joe, on the Robbee label. Also done by Roberta Wynn, released on a Josie compilation album in 1963 so I'd guess it was a Josie single? ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:15:28 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Re: Stupid songs Phil Hall wrote: > What's the most nonsensical song you've ever heard, > other than something like "Ne Ne Na Na Na Na Nu Nu"? > I'll start it off by nominating "Toom Toom (Is A Little Boy)" > by Marie Applebee. Well, of course there's the mighty "Surfin' Bird" by the Trashmen - hard to beat for sheer lunacy - what were they thinking of? But I'm glad they did. Then from the same year, I think, one of my personal faves, "The Martian Hop" by the Ran-Dells, which has developed a contemporary resonance : We have just discovered an important note from space The Martians want to throw a dance for all the human race - that could be a NASA press release. pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:19:23 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Re: Brown Eyed Handsome Man Guy Lawrence wrote: > While I fear a thread on great Chuck Berry lyrics > could go on ad infinitum I simply can't resist > giving my own favourite a shout. From "Brown Eyed > Handsome Man" I believe this song is famously euphemistic - those wearing the right ears knew Chuck really meant "Brown Skinned Handsome Man". Only a few short years later James Brown was black and proud. pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 22:23:01 -0000 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: Flower Girl Greg Matecko wrote: > A couple of years ago, I emailed Bill Vermillion, who was > the mid-morning jock on WLOF. He remembered the record, > and said that Plant Life was a local band! Plant Life was definitely a local Orlando band, formerly known as the Go Mads. I saw three former members of the band last weekend (and Bill Vermillion, too) at a taping for a video project that includes 1967 footage of P. Life lip-synching to "Flower Girl". The band was real, but the question is whether they appeared on their own record... as the locals were led to believe! There was another song called "Flower Girl" that year, by Kenny O'Dell, which is also a good song. I like the 45 RPM mix better than the album mix. Jeff Lemlich The Limestone Lounge Florida Music Forum http://pub64.ezboard.com/blimestonelounge -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:22:45 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Re: On record collecting Mike Edwards wrote: > If record collecting is the preserve of middle aged > white guys with failing eyesight, why would any girl > want to go there? Yeah Mike but we all used to be young hunky record collectors, and there still weren't any gals we could talk about Stax B-sides with. pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 22:28:22 -0000 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: Neon Philharmonic: madness or genius? Skip Woolwine > If you like that, you'd like the orchestral arrangements > that are the signature of the Neon Philharmonic's long-awaited > CD of every recording they did. Morning Girl is just the > beginning of many different, very complicated and brilliant > arrangements that cause you to pause and think, "Wow. To which > frequency is Tupper Saussy tuned?" GENIUS! The ultimate goosebump album. The Rhino 2-CD set has everything the Neons recorded with Don Gant/Tupper Saussy except their TRX label single. Later Neon Philharmonic singles were with replacement players. I can play "Love Will Find A Way" on TRX to musica if there's interest. Jeff Lemlich http://pub64.ezboard.com/blimestonelounge -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 17:40:18 EST From: John Fox Subject: Re: 2 versions of "Double Shot" by Swingin' Medallions Skip Woolwine writes: > In my 45s, I have 2 versions of 'Double Shot of my Baby's Love' > by the Swingin' Medallions...Could it be that this GA/AL area > band ran into some conservative resistance in its home region? Must be the same censor who got a hold of Brown-Eyed Girl for the edit of "making love in the green grass..." into "laughing and a running, behind the stadium" (why would anyone do that?). Of course, my all-time favorite is the version of Satisfaction where in the last verse, Mick is trying to "bdlee-bdlee-bdlee- bdlee" (speeded up tape) some girl! John Fox -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 17:51:31 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Since Gary Went In The Navy - Marcy Joe Mick Patrick writes: > "Since Gary Went In The Navy" was recorded by Marcy Joe 0n Robbee > 115 in 1961. Her real name was Marcy Rae Sockel and she was from > Pittsburgh. The song was written by J. Richards and S. Meshel, > arranged and conducted by Lennie Martin, and produced by Lennie > and Lou. "Lou" is actually Lou Christie, another Pittsburgh native. > This number was also recorded by Roberta Wynn on Jubilee 5405. > Our new colleague Ed Rambeau made some records with Marcy. > Maybe he can tell us a bit more about her. > I found a copy of this record in New York last year for $1. Not bad! > I've posted it to musica. Fans of the "Early Girl" style might like > it: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/ Hey Mick, You guys have come across again (why am I not surprised?) Was it a hit here in the US? If so, how high? If Eddie has anything to add, it would be appreciated. Welcome Eddie, Artie, Ron, Lloyd and anyone I might've missed. It's a trip. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 17:34:37 -0500 From: Dr. Mark Subject: Introducing "Dr. Mark" Greetings to all at Spectropop, I'd like to introduce myself. I am a lifetime collector of music and pop culture. With a collection about 5,000+ albums strong, countless 45s and CDs and a whole houseful of pop cultural memorabilia. (Books, movies, old toys, etc.) I have a special interest in all kinds of pop music and the "anonymous" musicians and artists that performed in studio and "cartoon groups" from the 60s and 70s. I ran across this web group online and find it is right up my alley of musical interests. What with discussion of musical obscurities, "versions" (stereo/mono and edits), offbeat groups and having elite, pop music performers among it's subscribers. I hope that I will be able to share some of my finds and interests and also ask some questions. Including one of my biggest unsolved musical quests that I will send in a separate email following this one. Sincerely, "Dr. Mark" (My DJ name and nickname) Photos: http://photos.yahoo.com/drmark7 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/popmusicpopculture -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:07:16 -0800 (PST) From: Steveo Subject: Re: Don Costa; Danny Williams Mike, I remember the record "White on White" by Danny Williams on United Artists. Great record. As for whether Don went to London to record Danny Williams....my guess is it was done in New York. Steveo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:09:57 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Mary In The Morning Artie Wayne writes: > Mike.......I didn't know that you wrote "Mary in the Morning" > .....I love that song!! I'm also a bit jealous that Elvis > covered one of your songs. I wrote about ten with Ben Raleigh > for his movies, but we never got in. Artie, Thanks for the compliment. Forget not knowing I wrote it--most people don't even know the song unless they're over 50. I had the good luck of the wonderfully talented Johnny Cymbal as my co-writer on that song. We wrote numerous songs together that we thought were better--but Mary hit the jackpot. Johnny was so funny---the running joke was people always asking him (alone) about the song and saying, "you must have really written most of that by yourself right? --Rashkow couldn't have really written that". He would always say, "oh no--actually Mike wrote most of it all alone by himself I just fine-tuned a couple of lines". It drove them crazy. For the record, it actually very much an even collaboration and kind of wrote itself. It seems to me that the whole thing with hits, in many cases, is simply so much luck. We write it for the Association, they turn it down before the first verse is over. The next day, Terry Cashman is playing the demo in his office and Pete DeAngelis walks by, comes in and says I'm cutting Al Martino tomorrow, I'd like that for him. (I didn't even know who Al Martino was.) I'm at the session and I hate it--it's terrible. I go into the Men's room and I'm crying--and banging my head on the hand dryer--I'm really distraught. JC comes in and says, "hey, take it easy, don't worry, it makes no difference; it's Capitol, the right people are behind Martino and they want it to be a hit. John knew the business Most times that would be the end of it--"B" side, a throwaway, album filler---but for some reason they decide no, they're not happy wiht it either-- it doesn't have the same character of the demo and they're going to re cut it. Two days later they went back in with the same charts, but brought John in to play acoustic and set the feel. Bingo, it all fell into place. Like falling off a log. They put it out it goes # 1 Easy Listening, #26 on the national pop charts. Then Glen Campbell happens to put it on an album with a little song he had a hit on called Gentle On My Mind. The album sells 6mm in vinyl and tape. Then Presley cuts it. It's all luck. Not that it isn't a nice little song---it is, but it isn't in the same class with many, many, many songs that haven't seen the light of day. I shouldn't forget to mention that Terry Cashman, Tommy West and Gene Pistilli added some very nice little background parts to the demo that really made it happen. They did it as a favor and they did it free and they created the parts--I think Terry had the idea. Thank God (and Terry Cashman et al) for Mary In The Morning. I guess that may be more than you wanted as a response, but mostly I have no unspoken thoughts.......... Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 22:47:03 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Gerri Granger Jim Cassidy: > The recent posting of Gerri Granger's "Just Tell Him, etc." to > Musica reminded me of her many TV appearances back in the day. > In addition to being a fine singer, she was a charming and > attractive guest, although more of a Vegas circuit act than a > pop/rock singer. When I Googled her name to find her present > whereabouts, I came up with the following from an organization > called "Salute America" that gives awards to Americans for "extra > effort". Ms. Granger is a founder and board member, alongside > the omnipresent Carol Connors, oddly enough. Here's the bio for > her: > > "Ms. Granger is presently an English teacher in New Jersey working > with prison inmates to provide them a new start. Ms. Granger is a > singer and entertainer. She appeared on the Johnny Carson show over > 45 times, the Mike Douglas Show, Steve Allen Show, and the Ed > Sullivan Show. She toured the world with Sammy Davis, Jr. as his > opening act. She has appear in Las Vegas and Lake Tahoe with Redd > Foxx, Joey Bishop, Totie Fields, and others. She has recorded for > 20th Century Fox, headlined at the Steel Pier in Atlantic City, > worked at the Apollo, and opened for the legendary Sam Cooke." Hey Jim, great info, thanks a lot. Gerri made some excellent records, another one of which I've just posted to musica: "Breakdown" (Big Top 514, 1964), Written by Giant, Baum & Kaye, Arranged and Conducted by Leroy Glover, Produced by Giant & Baum. Take a listen: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/ Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:48:25 -0800 (PST) From: William Murphy Subject: Delurking for a small query Ahem ... (clears throat) Can anyone tell me where I can get hold of a Back To Mono button, like the one in the Back To Mono set? My wife just washed a shirt I'd been wearing with the button, and it's ... er ... SOB!! All help gratefully received, Bill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 23:49:39 -0000 From: Mike Subject: Re: Collecting records and gender. Julio Niño wrote: > Hi everyone, > These last few days, ideas have circulated about justifying why > collecting, and in particular collecting records, is much more > frequent in men than in women. If you get a chance, pick up the book "Vinyl Junkies" by Brett Milano...there's a part in the book where a psychologists suggests the obsessive need to go *overboard* collecting items such as records results from a lack of seratonin in the system. So, I've no need for seratonin - gimmie MORE records - 45s that is! My girlfriend collects cool pop-culture 60s stuff/things, in an obessive manor. She does collect records, but where I can feel at home pawing thru thousands of 45s, she will get bored after one hour. Unlike when we go to a store, I know exactly what I need, buy it, and leave. She will dart form aisle to aisle looking at other items. When this occurs, I remind her not to berate me when I'm going thru stacks of records somewhere.... Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 00:03:12 -0000 From: Paul Levinson Subject: Re: Thanks Mark: > Hi and welcome to the great Eddie Rambeau! "Concrete and Clay" > is truly a classic! Eddie Rambeau > Thanks for the welcome, Mark. It's nice to hear Concrete and Clay > be referred to as a classic. Perhaps I'm too close to it to realize > that. Thanks for the kind words. "Concrete and Clay" has always been one of my favorites -- Stu, Ira, and I used to sing it, a cappella, on the street corners of the Bronx in the 1960s. I guess I should introduce myself, having just signed up as a member of Spectropop myself. Stu Nitekman, Ira Margolis, and I were "The New Outlook," a local NYC folk-rock group in 1960s. Ellie Greenwich and Mike Rashkow came strolling by as we were singing in Central Park one Sunday afternoon. They signed us to their production company -- Pineywood -- and then to Atlantic Records, and changed our name to "The Other Voices". (Mike and I have been in touch by e-mail over the past year or so, and he told me about Spectropop -- looks like a great place, by the way). Anyway, The Other Voices recorded "May My Heart Be Cast Into Stone" (written by Randell & Linzer) with "Hung Up On Love" (written by me and Mikie Harris) on the B side for Atlantic, and then "No Olympian Heights (written by Brute Force) with the irrepressible "Hung Up On Love" again on the B side ... Neither sold too well ... But ... recently, Andrew Sandoval has compiled an album for Rhino Handmade with our "Hung Up On Love" -- should be released soon... And, back in the early 70s, I recorded "Twice Upon A Rhyme," an album which I wrote, performed, produced -- and it's recently been discovered in Japan, where it's sold a whole bunch of vinyl copies... In the intervening years I've become a science fiction writer (just finished my 5th novel), a non-fiction author with 10 books, and Professor and Chair of Communication and Media Studies at Fordham University in NYC (I got my PhD from NYU in 1979.) I also appear regularly on CNN, MSNBC, etc and lots of radio, talking about the media. Details on my web page: http://www.sff.net/people/paullevinson (also has MP3s of a few songs from "Twice Upon A Rhyme") (Fictionwise.com also has my short story, "The Harmony", about those a cappella days back in the Bronx.) Pleased to be here! Paul Levinson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:02:35 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: Anthony James Subject: Re: answer songs Artie Wayne: > I've been enjoying so many of the Spectropop posts that I > almost forgot to add to the answer song list, "[I'll Meet > you at] Midnight Joey" by Lorna Dune, which I co-wrote with > Ben Raleigh which is the answer to, "[Meet me at] Midnight > Mary" [Raleigh/Wayne] by Joey Powers. Artie; Where can I get a copy of it. Anthony James -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 00:25:15 -0000 From: Dave Heasman Subject: Re: Chuck Berry's best/Austin Roberts Guy Lawrence: > While I fear a thread on great Chuck Berry lyrics > could go on ad infinitum I simply can't resist giving > my own favourite a shout. From "Brown Eyed Handsome Man": > > "Milo Venus was a beautiful lass.... My favourite Chuck line is from that song, too:- "Arrested on charges of Unemployment" Kind of like "Driving while Black" -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:52:57 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Thanks Austin Joe Nelson writes: > Since we're asking questions, I always wondered if that string > note that never seemed to end at the end of the chorus was an > ARP or a Mellotron/Chamberlain. Probably the latter - listen on > the CD and you can hear drop outs in the tape loop - but I've > never been sure Joe, As I remember,we used a little synth, a long and sustained guitar note (with effect), plus live strigs and a sustained vocal note (as long as we could) which might account for the slight loop dropouts. Didn't wanna take any chances. LOL. Take care, Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 20:55:34 EST From: Bill George Subject: 2003 top 10 albums As I am still a couple weeks behind in reading posts (my, we Spectropoppers sure do like to write!), I don't know if anyone else has posted year-end lists. But I thought I'd post mine in case anyone is interested. Top 10 albums of 2003 I didn't find 2003 to be a great year for music. My top four picks are great, the rest good IMHO... 1. Fountains of Wayne - Welcome Interstate Travellers This seems to be a divisive group with Spectropoppers. I love them. Catchy melodies, clever lyrics, beautiful arrangements (and yes, I DO hear a Brian Wilson influence on several songs). I think anyone with a love of power pop would enjoy this CD. 2. Maria McKee - High Dive A blend of Lou Reed, Bowie, Sondheim, and many others, this is a real kitchen sink CD. But her incredible voice overcomes the few embarrassing patches. 3. Blue Rodeo - Palace of Gold Another good one from the Canadian Roots-Rock band. 4. Anssi Kela - ??? Finnish rocker. Good luck finding it. 5. Gillian Welch - Soul Journey 6. Lucinda Williams - World Without Tears 7. Rodney Crowell - Fate's Right Hand 8. Bonnie Hayes - Love Among the Ruins 9. Caitlin Cary - I'm Staying Out 10. Jayhawks - Rainy Day Music (OK, I definitely lean toward alt. country. So sue me. ) :) Bill Oh, I almost forgot... Best reissue: Jackie DeShannon - Jackie...plus (well, what did you expect!?) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:26:58 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Mary In The Morning For Mike Rashkow: Mike, you underestimate yourself!! Mary in The Morning is a beautiful tune. Great lyrics. I have both the Al Martino and the Elvis version. I did not know Terry Cashman was involved. I had emailed Terry last year because i wanted to ask about a really rare 45 he put out in 1963 called 'Try Me". Got a lot of info on that record thanks to him. he's really had a nice career. best, Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 02:55:03 -0000 From: Robert R. Radil Subject: Re: Compatible Stereo Joe Nelson wrote: > If you had an oscilloscope built into your stereo to show stereo > separation then, you saw that note make a perfect circle, when > mono or slight stereo was a straight diagonal line. I was never > so intrigued by a circle on a tube, and have never seen that > formation since on a stereo record. "All Right Now" was completely > remixed for single release. I doubt the use of the CSG had anything > to do with the changes. I know Bob Radil is reversing the process > to convert ARN back to straight stereo for one of his next projects: > I should ask him to make the original CSG treated version availible > for anyone who wants to compare the two. Email him at bobradil@a... > for more info: I'll forward this message over to him after it gets > posted. (Should have mentioned this by now for anyone who was > wondering: CSG stands for Compatable Stereo Generator. I doubt > anyone uses them now, but they played as much a role as the > development of a universal standard groove in the death of mono. > I'll leave it to individual taste whether that's a good or bad > thing.) Hi folks, I'm here now. Actually it was many years ago I jury- wrigged together a workbench project CSG circuit. One of the songs I tested it with was "All Right Now". It worked perfectly. There were a number of Carpenters' singles processed the same way. Also the single version of "Love Her Madly" by The Doors. Bob Radil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:54:53 EST From: Ed Rambeau Subject: Marcy Joe Mick Patrick: > Our new colleague Ed Rambeau made some records with Marcy. Maybe > he can tell us a bit more about her. I did several recordings with Marcy Jo. One was called "A Lover's Medley" which was a combo of 2 songs "The More I See You" and "When I Fall In Love". It became a number one hit in the city of Baltimore where Marcy and I did many record hops. I haven't seen Marcy since that time. The other song we did together was called "The Car Hop and The Hard Top". A novelty song. Would love to hear from Marcy Jo. Thanks to computers I just in back in touch with Diane Renay after 40 years...and saw her recently in New Jersey where I appeared as a surprise to her at the Old Time Radio Convention held at the Holiday Inn in Newark annually. It was good to see her after all these years. Ed Rambeau -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 02:55:46 GMT From: Mark Subject: This Diamond Ring / The Outsiders / Virginia Wolves / Vinyl Junkies Albabe--Yes, there is a R&B version of "This Diamond Ring", done by Sammy Ambrose on Musicor. I would say it comes close to how Koop envisioned the song. It's on a CD from the UK Goldmine Soul Supply label and may also be on a UK Kent CD as well. Mac--Chet Kelley is Tom's brother-in-law. I knew Tom's wife Sherry very well-- she passed away not too long ago after a battle with a long illness. And you're right--Tom has some great stories to tell, but I don't know if he has a computer. Also, if you're into the Outsiders, check out two CDs that came out a few years ago on Collectables: "Roots of the Outsiders" by Tom King and the Starfires (pre-Outsiders tracks) and "30 Years Live" by the Outsiders (Tom's attempt to keep the Outsiders name going, dating from 1991, which was the 25th Anniversary of "Time Won't Let Me"--comprised of two concerts, one from here in Cleveland, the other from Las Vegas). Yours truly composed the liner notes for both! I think Collectables discontinued them, but you can probably score 'em from their catalogue for about $3.98 apiece. Austin--The Virginia Wolves on ABC--were they the same Virginia Wolves who had a solitary single on Amy? The A-side was a nice uptempo version of "Stay", the B-side entitled "B.L.T". Re vinyl junkies: I will admit to being a completist. For quite a while, I have been collecting all the soul/R&B releases on Amy/Mala/Bell and their subsidiaries (hence how I picked up on the aforementioned Virginia Wolves single) and also on Scepter/Wand and subsidiaries. The reason? I'm a big-time soul fanatic, and I've discovered that you can't go wrong with pretty much any soul sides on those labels. I've always been into the Southern soul sound, so I've had a long interest in A/M/B stuff; as for Scepter/Wand, it was after I had gotten swept away by what the Brits call Northern soul and hearing so many great S/W soul sides, I made that a project as well. There are probably quite a few other collecting "projects" that I have going (regarding styles of music, particular artists, cities, etc.), but the two mentioned above are probably the most involved ones. And since I mentioned Amy/Mala/Bell, I'd like to mention (for those who don't know about this) that Davie Gordon and I run a Yahoo group devoted to EVERYTHING related to those labels (not just the soul stuff). Check it out if you're so inclined: http://www.yahoogroups.com/amymalabell Best, Mark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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