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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Speaking of Zally
From: Alan Gordon
2. Re: JELLYFISH- Bellybutton
From: Peter Kearns
3. Running times
From: Richard Williams
4. Al Kooper
From: Artie Wayne
5. Collecting
From: Richard Williams
6. Re: Birthdays/ Mary in the Morning/Camp Granada
From: Tom Taber
7. Re: This Diamond Ring
From: Steve Harvey
8. Re: Annie Haslam/October Project/Grey Eye Glances
From: Steve Harvey
9. El Paso short/long
From: Al Quaglieri
10. Lorna dune/Geld/Udell/Good Vibrations/short records/spine tingling moments and other odds and ends
From: Artie Wayne
11. For Al Kooper
From: Bill Craig
12. ELO-ish
From: James Cassidy
13. Kooper,Dante,Gordon,Holvay, Rambeau, et al
From: Den Lindquist
14. Buying music in London / London record shops
From: Martin Jensen
15. Re: Jon Brion; Disk-O-Tek Holiday; Levi Stubbs; etc.
From: fxxm
16. Shangri-Las on I've Got A Secret
From: Craig Davison
17. Re: The Daughters Of Eve
From: Jeff Lemlich
18. Re: Female Record Collectors
From: Sarah Vaughn
19. Obscurities Online?
From: Rex Strother
20. "Kinda Wasted Without You" lyrics
From: Guille Milkyway
21. "I Can Make It Better"
From: Austin Roberts
22. Re: ELO Clones
From: Carol-Anne Lennie
23. Sock It To Me Time: Strawberry Alarm Clock on "Laugh-In"
From: Dr Mark
24. Re: Rag Dolls / Bernadette Carroll
From: Doowopdaddy
25. Re: Running times
From: Norm D
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:10:55 -0700 (MST)
From: Alan Gordon
Subject: Re: Speaking of Zally
Steve Harvey, thank you for reminding me of "As long as
you're here". Garry Bonner and I wrote that song.
Jack Nitzsche arranged it and Zal was a real fun guy to
work with, I had totally forgotten the B side was backwards
[not a bad title for a song!] They were fun times
Best Wishes
Nala Nodrog
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:30:33 -0000
From: Peter Kearns
Subject: Re: JELLYFISH- Bellybutton
Dr. Mark wrote:
> I had "Spilt Milk" and sold the CD at least 5 years ago because I
> felt it
> did not measure up to their debut CD, "Bellybutton", in any way.
> Especially the lack of catchy songs.
Interesting. 'She Still Loves Him' really won me over
on 'Bellybutton'. I enjoyed both but loved 'Spilt Milk' much more. It
was more eclectic and more psychedelic and colourful. The lullaby
and 'Joining A Fan Club' were such a powerhouse opener. And the
closing 'Brighter Day' still gives me goosebumps, or yes
indeed 'shiver moments'. The lyrics pull no punches and that whole
arrangement ending the album leaves you shattered! I love this kind
of drama. I'm not sure who the arranger was but if it was Van Dyke
Parks I wouldn't be at all surprised.
Peter
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:52:49 +0000
From: Richard Williams
Subject: Running times
Isn't it strange that as attention spans get shorter, tunes get longer?
Richard Williams
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 06:02:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Al Kooper
Al......Happy Birthday in advance!! I'm an Aquarian too........
on Jan. 22 I'll be 39.....for the 23rd time.I'm sorry I won't
be in N.Y.Feb.5 to see your birthday shows......I'm sure they'll
be inspired.
Speaking of inspiration,recent Spectropop posts about your career
have reminded me how persistant you are re-arranging .....and
finding new ways to perform your songs.I've been sucessful as a
publisher in updating other peoples songs "Your Sixteen" by Ringo
Starr..."Good Vibrations"by the Troggs]but I've had a block about
changing my own.....until now.Hope you don't mind if I use you as
a "Rock and Roll model"
Thanks and regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:23:28 +0000
From: Richard Williams
Subject: Collecting
On the subject of the record collector's mentality, Phil Hall wrote: "The
songs are like pieces of a puzzle, and if I can get enough of them, I feel
like I might be able to put my youth back together. "
That's a very touching thing to have written, Phil, and I'm sure it's true
of many of us who might not be quite so ready to admit it.
The peculiar thing is that it can happen even with music we didn't hear at
the time. In recent weeks, various reissues have given me some new
favourites from a time I knew very well: "Seek And You Shall Find" by the
Isley Brothers, "Time Is Passing By" by the Monitors, "Here Are The Pieces
Of My Broken Heart" by Gladys Knight and the Pips, "Ridin' High On Love" by
Jr Walker and the All Stars (all Motown), Johnny Daye's "What'll I Do For
Satisfaction" and the Charmels' "As Long A I've Got You" (both Stax/Volt)
all fit perfectly into my version of Phil's puzzle, but they're pieces I
didn't even know existed. Anyone else get this feeling?
Richard Williams
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:06:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Taber
Subject: Re: Birthdays/ Mary in the Morning/Camp Granada
Alan Zweig wrote:
> I think of myself as a teenager staring at the cover
> of that
> Blues Project record and those five "men" on the
> cover. It's a
> fairly simple picture when I look at it now but at
> the time, it
> I just wonder how I would have
> reacted if
> someone had told me "some of those guys are only
> eight years
> older than you".
How do think I felt when I read recently that Emitt
Rhodes is only a few MONTHS older than I am? At least
I became creative in my 30s and 40s, or I don't think
I could stand it!
As for "Mary in the Morning," both I and my Mother
loved that song, circa ages 18 and 48, and you know
how rare that was! It could be a hit for someone new
every decade. Asked my Country-loving wife - "Oh,
yeah, Alan Jackson could have a hit with that song."
And, if there is a THIRD Spectropopper who's done a
new version of "Hello Muddah," please let me know!
Tom Taber
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:13:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: This Diamond Ring
Austin Roberts wrote:
> All I know is Al Kooper and Leon Russell (I'm
> pretty sure) as writers
> of This Diamond Ring. I guess there could've been
> a third writer
I have a feeling that Mr. Danko was wound up a bit the
night I asked him about Roger Tillison's (not the
"Poetry In Motion" cat) album. Probably could have
mentioned "Stairway To Heaven" and Rick would have
given Roger credit. Don't know why he picked "THis
Diamond Ring". I got him to autograph his solo lp and
Rick wrote, "May Your Memory Serve You Breakfast" on
it! Pretty funny. Not a bad title for an lp or song.
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:20:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: Annie Haslam/October Project/Grey Eye Glances
Grey Eye Glances was always playing Border's
bookstores in and around the Philly area a few years
back. They still seem to be around despite their
career having hit a peak. I think they just played in
Manayunk, at an offshoot of the Point in Bryn Mawr.
Have you ever listened to the original Nirvana? Kind
of progressive easy listening. Van Dyke Parks
producing the New Seekers.
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:08:47 -0500
From: Al Quaglieri
Subject: El Paso short/long
John Sellards wrote:
> >El Paso is actually longer on the single....the full
> >version has never turned up in stereo (to my knowledge).
I pulled all existing reels for this song when reissuing the GUNFIGHTER
BALLADS & TRAIL SONGS album for Legacy. Not only is there no stereo mix for
the full-length version but the extra verse was physically edited out of
the 3-track studio master sometime back when the album was originally
assembled. Usually, engineers placed these edit-outs at the end of the
reel, but not in this case. Afraid the long version stereo is lost to the ages.
Al Q.
NY
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:40:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Lorna dune/Geld/Udell/Good Vibrations/short records/spine tingling moments and other odds and ends
I'd like to answer a few questions and make a few comments...
to Bob Rashkow........As far as I remember Peter Udell and
Gary Geld were the Banned on Fontana records.Radio would'nt
play it 'cause it was too controversial.....Bob Gallo and
Eric Gayle were two different people.Bob,a producer and
Eric one of New Yorks top session guitarists.
to Anthony James......Sorry I don't have a copy of the Lorna
Dune record.I've been in the process of getting copies of my
old songs from my Spectropop pals Mike Edwards,Martin Roberts,
and Clark Blesch,to name a few, that are filling in the blanks.
By the way,If anybody can send me an mp3 of "Good Vibrations"
by the Troggs[ which I radically updated for them....with
Brian Wilsons blessing].I'd really appreciate it.
to Laura Pinto........As a songwriter and producer I always
tried to keep my records at two and a half minutes.If I ventured
over three minutes.....I'd list the time on the label at two
minutes ....59 seconds.I grew up in a time when radio execs
wanted "short distractions"[what"We"affectionately call records]
to play in between their commercials.Fortunately we had DJs,
like the ones among our group, who got the music and the message
out to us anyway!!
to Alan Haber........you had a great idea in asking for Spectropop
spine tingling moments in music.I noticed,from the answers,that
more seemed to be affected by music than by lyrics.They all had one
thing in common though....each moment that was written about was so
vividly potrayed.....I experienced the moment as if I were listening
to it myself!! As far as my own SPQ[spine tingling quotient] I still
get chills when I hear the chorus of Derek and the Dominos,"Layla"...
last verse and chorus of The Bee Gees,"Gotta' get a message to you"....
Bob Dylans"Blowin' in the Wind......Jackie Wilson on his last few
notes of"Night".......Al Green and Bobby Hatfield,whenever they go
into falsetto....and Elvis....just for being Elvis!!
It's sad that of all the music I hear on VH1 and EMPTY-V ,I've only
gotten shivers on two recent songs,at the chorus of "Feel like Makin'
Love" by Kid Rock[which is a Bad Company remake],and "Here without you"
by 3 Doors Down[the latest heirs to the Left Banke Dynasty.]
We recently updated my website http://artiewayne.com/ If you haven't
seen it you might want to check it out.
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:33:21 -0000
From: Bill Craig
Subject: For Al Kooper
Hi and welcome to Al Kooper.
Al, I have a few personal recollections to share that revolve around
you. Do you recall The Blues Project performance at the Murray The K
show at the Paramount Theater in the spring of 1967? Also on the
bill: The Who, Cream, and Wilson Pickett, among others. I remember
when TBP were in the middle of "No Time Like The Right Time" you
switched to your somewhat synth-like keyboard (called something like
a tubon? It was tubular in shape.)and the thing refused to produce
any sound, forcing Danny Kalb to improvise a solo to fill the void.
Does this ring a bell at all? Equipment failure not withstanding the
Blues Project set was great.It couldn't have been too much after this
that you split to form BS&T.
Also in about 1970 my friend Steve and I were in NYC trying to shop
an acetate demo around to some labels.To illustrate just how much we
didn't know what we were doing, we were there on a Saturday having
made no prior contact thinking that we would find someone to give a
listen.Of course on a weekend most of the places we tried were either
closed or no one relevant was there or willing to give it a spin.
Interestingly we did somehow manage to get past the security at the
CBS offices and go up in one of the bank of elevators and find
ourselves in a deserted series of offices, one of which seemed to be
yours! We considered leaving the demo but instead beat it out of
there realising that we could be in trouble just for being there in
the first place. Hey, we were teenagers in a strange land.
Here's another question: Do you remember a talent scout from NJ named
Walter Gollender who supossedly put Irwin Levine together with Larry
Brown before they went on to write "Tie A Yellow Ribbon"?
I think he told me they were writing for a band called "The Purple
Avalanche"
Take care,
Bill Craig
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:14:09 -0500
From: James Cassidy
Subject: ELO-ish
One of my favorite albums of 2003 is Paula Kelley's "The Trouble with
Success." You may hear echoes of ELO in the string arrangements,
background vocals, and occasional minor fourth chords (particularly in
the song "Could There Be Another World"). A couple of MP3s can be
heard at:
http://www.kimcheerecords.com/catalog/kc028
Jim Cassidy
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:39:49 -0500
From: Den Lindquist
Subject: Kooper,Dante,Gordon,Holvay, Rambeau, et al
As a long-time 'Popper (and occasional contributor), I want to add my
sentiments to the mix about how good it is to have these writers and
artists - names I've known for many years - as a collector, from flipping through endless
stacks of vinyl, and enjoying the great music they have created, and as a DJ, sharing their
music over the airwaves for more than 35 years - become a part of Spectropop.
Spectropop has always been a tremendous forum for the exchange of music
information. From the very first message I read, I felt connected to people who
speak the same language; most "music lovers" I know couldn't care less
about single B-sides, obscure groups and artists, pop-psych, sunshine-pop,
the "girl group sound", garage, and other genres - much less, have actually listened
to any of it. This group is a haven for us who live in the world of diverse musical tastes.
As good as Spectropop has been, it has gone to another level with artists
and writers providing a first-person perspective that only they can share. For that,
I thank you.
Note for Al Kooper:
(My apologies if this has been mentioned before)
I have a single you recorded on Verve Folkways: "Changes" b/w "Pack Up Your Sorrows"
(Verve Folkways KF5026 -circa 1965 or 66).
I'm guessing this came prior to the Blues Project recordings.
I will try to post it to Musica (if my computer will cooperate!)
Any recollections would be greatly welcomed.
Thanks!
Den Lindquist
©®THE DOCTOR
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:55:49 -0000
From: Martin Jensen
Subject: Buying music in London / London record shops
Hi
I'm going to London next month in order to see Brian Wilson
perform Smile, and since I've never been there, I wondered
if someone here could recommend any good records shops with
CDs of Spectropopper interest?
I'm thinking Girl group stuff, 50s & 60s pop & soul, sunshine
pop, Japanese imports, reissues and collections by the likes
of Sundazed, Rhino, Rev-ola, Collectibles and such.
As I don't know my way around London, you'd better tell me
which subway station lies closest to the shops you might
recommend.
Thanks in advance
With regards
Martin, Denmark :-)
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 04:13:06 -0500
From: fxxm
Subject: Re: Jon Brion; Disk-O-Tek Holiday; Levi Stubbs; etc.
Albabe wrote:
> Hey Peter! I love Jon's stuff. His Gray's album (with ex
> Jellyfisher, Jason Falkner) is tremendous! His work with
> Badly Drawn Boy (from the movie "About A Boy"), Susanna Hoffs,
> Sara Hickman, T. P. and the Heartbreakers and Aimee Mann is
> fantastic! He's also on the Faulkner-less 2nd Jellyfish album:
> Spilt Milk. Great writer and arranger. Very organic sounding
> stuff... but I can hear sequencers in his stuff too...
In the summer of 1996 I was out in LA on a song-poem research jaunt.
While there I visited David Keane's unbelievable Mellotron Archives, a
museum/warehouse/fix-it shop/recording studio based on dozens of vintage
(well, duh) Chamberlins, Mellotrons and other proto-synthesizers. For
someone like myself, who thrills to any kind of endearing anachronism,
this place was like Disneyland. While the highlight of my visit was
seeing the one-of-a-kind (made for promotional use only, yet fully
functional) clear (Lucite) Chamberlin, in hindsight another highlight
was meeting Jon Brion, who was a regular visitor there. I say "in
hindsight" because at the time I hadn't heard of him, but have since
been highly impressed by his work with Fiona Apple and others.
"Neo-retro," when in loving and talented hands, can be a very satisfying approach.
Albin Lindstrom wrote:
> The song the pair for Roy Orbison called Southbound Jericho Parkway
> is really a strange one. A seven minute long song about the suicide
> of a business man. The song itself is actaully quite close to
> Macarthur Park.
Only with a more literal lyric, which, to my ears, makes it not work
quite so well.
Ed Rambeau wrote:
> ... Apparently they discovered that > Summertime Guy was written by
> Chuck Barris who was Vice-President of ABC at the time and they
> considered it a conflict of interest. Therefore, Summertime Guy was
> immediately pulled from all ABC Radio and TV affiliates.
Nowadays this would be called "synergy," and not withdrawn but rather cross-promoted.
Jimmy Botticelli wrote:
> Phil's prolly from Jersey hisself~ :-))
Isn't everybody?
Patrick wrote:
> Cattanooga Cats "My Birthday Suit" from Cattanooga Cats LP (Curb 1968)
How could Mike Curb have let a song go out with such a risque title?!
Phil Hall wrote:
> What's the most nonsensical song you've ever heard,
> other than something like "Ne Ne Na Na Na Na Nu Nu"?
> I'll start it off by nominating "Toom Toom (Is A Little Boy)"
> by Marie Applebee.
If we're counting song-poems, I could nominate a couple of dozen or more
for this category. A few that come most immediately to mind include:
Dick Kent: Gretchen's New Dish
Bill Joy: How Long Are You Staying?
Milford Perkins: The Duck Egg Walk
Wally Burke: I'm A Ginseng Digger
Bobbi Blake: Betsy And Her Goat
... and on and on it goes. To hear them is to scrape jaw to floor from disbelief.
MopTop Mike wrote:
> You can watch the Chiffons sitting in Central Park Zoo, I think,
> singing "Nobody Knows..."etc. in the Frank Slay bankrolled
> film/flick 'Disco-Tek Holiday'. The film is actually an excuse to
> promote groups via film clips, which include the Chiffons, Freddie &
> The Dreamers, The Rockin' Ramrods, the Vagrants (a waycool clip of
> them lip-synching by a swimming pool performing their 1st 45, "Oh
> Those Eyes"), and lots of obscure Brit groups like A Band Of Angels,
> The Orchids...all of these are based around a flimsy plot featuring
> Casey Paxton - the teen idol type guy who recorded for Slay's
> Claridge label in '65/66 - going from city to city with his
> girlfriend, and stopping by the top radio stations trying to get his
> latest record played, "East Is East". He sings it THREE times in the
> movie - talk about overkill!
I thought he sang it FOUR times, but honestly ONCE of that tripe was
more than enough. But Mike is right, this movie has some incredible
clips -- watching the 15-year-old Leslie Weinstein/West's already-giant
belly jiggle like jello as he jumps off the 6" high bandstand to take a
monstrous solo during The Vagrants' number is practically worth the
price of the tape itself. Which, by the way, is still in print,
available from Something Weird Video (http://www.somethingweird.com ...
but be careful, as SWV's website is awkwardly configured).
Stewart Mason wrote:
> Country Paul: The Iveys' MAYBE TOMORROW was reissued
> on CD by Apple in 1994. Like the other non-Beatles
> Apple CDs, it was in print for about 15 minutes and is
> basically impossible to find today.
I've never heard of this series of CD reissues. Was Capitol the issuing
company? Were they withdrawn so quickly due to lack of sales, or for
some other reason?
Susan wrote:
> Harry Nilsson used to say that if you couldn't make your point in two
> minutes, then it wasn't worth making. Or something like that.
Similarly (?), Elton John used to say that if he couldn't get a tune
written to one of Taupin's lyrics in 20 minutes he'd discard the song as unworkable.
Martin Jensen wrote:
> As far as I'm concerned, Levi Stubbs' incredible voice always ensures
> at least ONE spine-shivering moment in each Four Tops song. :-) I
> especially like the way he comes back in after the cool solo in their
> cover of 'I'm a Believer' - the part where he yells 'Love was out to
> GET me!!!!' Gotta love it!
Right on -- Stubbs was good for at least one of those moments in nearly
every song he sang. For me it's the pregnant pause in "Bernadette," and
that seemingly ad-libbed "just look over your shoulder" in "Reach Out
I'll Be There," but there are so many others. (Interesting sidenote: The
J5 had a "just look over your shoulder" line in their own "I'll Be
There" ... Motown in-reference, or mere coinkydink?)
Paul Bryant wrote:
> In poetry, forms such as the sonnet or the sestina
> or haiku serve the same purpose as the 3-minute single
> does in pop music. There are rules which you can bend
> but not break, and you must use your imagination to
> make the rules work for you, not against you.
True enough, and to adequately bend (or, at times, even break) those
rules usually requires great mastery of them. I'm with ya that artistic
constraints can induce great results. A similar example would be the
sparkling inuendos of the post-"Code" Hollywood movies. Repression
breeds creativity.
--Phil M.
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:36:25 -0000
From: Craig Davison
Subject: Shangri-Las on I've Got A Secret
Don't know if this has been mentioned before on this board, but...
I've been plowing through video tapes of old "I've Got A Secret"
shows and came across an episode that featured Robert Goulet and The
Shangri-Las! My guess is that this was first broadcast in November,
1964 as it comes in between their Halloween show and their
Thanksgiving show.
Bob had Betsy Palmer and Bess Meyerson act out the lyrics to "Leader
Of The Pack" in a nearly word-for-word reading of the song's lyrics.
The panel then had to guess that these were, in fact, the lyrics to
the "#1 Rock 'n' Roll hit."
Suffice to say, they didn't guess. The Shangs then took the stage
and lip-synch'd the song while Goulet rode across the stage on a
(teeny-weeny) Honda in full leather. Too bad Bob & the girls didn't
team up to give us their version of "Leader Of The Laundromat!"
Just one of those out-of-left-field things that would pop up on these
sort of shows!
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:42:44 -0000
From: Jeff Lemlich
Subject: Re: The Daughters Of Eve
James Holvay:
> ... Jimmy Peterson & James Butler were one and the same person.
> He was a singer, entertainer, songwriter and a pretty creative
> guy in general...
Mick Patrick:
> Hi James, Thanks so much for even more Kane & Abel minutiae. As
> you know, their "He Will Break Your Heart" is a much-worshipped
> record here on planet S'pop.
>
> I've seen your old colleague James Butler's name on a couple of
> records by the Daughters Of Eve, an all-girl band from Chicago.
> They were managed by Carl Bonafede, who also managed your friends
> the Buckinghams. Did you ever meet the Daughters? If so, any
> memories to share? Their drummer Debi and I are putting together
> a small article about this group for the S'pop website. All help
> gratefully received.
>
> To whet everyone's appetite, I've posted one of their 45s to musica:
> "Symphony Of My Soul" (USA 891, 1967), written by James Butler,
> produced by Carl Bonafede and James Butler. A nice example of "pop
> go the classics", it might appeal to fans of the Toys' "Lovers'
> Concerto": http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
James:
> Mick: I did hear of the group "Daughters" while in Chicago, but
> have nothing to add. There was another girl group, which I think
> was the first out of Chi Town, called The Chips. I believe they
> did have a single released.
The Daughters of Eve are scheduled to have a song on the upcoming
"Psychedelic States Illinois" release on Gear Fab. They have a
really good page on the "My First Band" site which can be found
here: http://www.myfirstband.com/FirstBandDaughtersOfEve.html
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:40:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Sarah Vaughn
Subject: Re: Female Record Collectors
If it weren't for people like Kim:
> No female record collectors? Hmm, maybe we just keep a little
> quieter about habit than y'all do. Few female COLLECTORS period?
> Who d'ya think is buying all those dolls, Hummel figurines,
> Beanie Babies, teapots and depression glass?drowning in discs.
I'd be leaving this group right now. I can't believe I read this:
> Women also have a disease called throwawayitis. If it isn't
> properly place, it is in the garbage.
Or this:
> This same principle applies to women's vs. men's attitudes to
> their old clothes ...
You guys need to watch your mouths until the day comes when you
know what you're talking about!
Sarah, Boston, MA- with a new bedroom to store over 2,000 albums.
Now with a third Stackridge album added thanks to Spectropop. Now
back to lurking, cowering in the cold and wondering why I don't
become a lesbian.
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:51:13 -0700
From: Rex Strother
Subject: Obscurities Online?
Just a question to the many fans of this site - has anyone tried out
iTunes, or its competitors? I was wondering if all this hype about
"500,000 tracks" being available for purchase, if any music of the type
discussed here was popping up for legitimate download (which, of course,
would never satisfy the vinyl fetish of Mick Patrick - but would be
making this stuff available to the "masses").
Rex Strother
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:08:58 +0100
From: Guille Milkyway
Subject: "Kinda Wasted Without You" lyrics
Hello everybody,
I'm desperately looking for some parts of the lyrics of
this Smokey Roberds/Roger Nichols song "Kinda Wasted Without You"
I'm Spanish, so for me it's quite difficult to know.
I don't have the "Small Circle of Friends" libreto and the only
ones I got are the ones that appear on the 1988 Japanese re-release
of the Parade's singles, but there are some parts missing (apart
from some mistakes):
At the end of the first verse:
"... I thought I was so wise
tell me now, tell me how
¿¿??
You did my mind so lovingly
Oh, my heart is falling free,
You might say I've been..."
At the end of the second verse:
"...every moment is in tune
I feel it moving round the room
¿¿??
Kinda wasted without you...".
Thanks so much,
Guille Milkyway
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:13:28 EST
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: "I Can Make It Better"
Country Paul:
> Also, a question for Austin Roberts: I Have a 45 by Castle Creek
> (Roulette R-7104 - promo, same song both sides mono/stereo) called
> "I Can Make It Better" (prod. Tom Rizzi-Gene Allan and Gary Knight).
> At first I thought it was a girl-group sound until the singer
> started singing about his girlfriend. Who was this light-textured
> high-voiced male? It's a pretty nice recording once one gets used
> to that voice being male. Thanks in advance for the info
I Can Make It Better was a demo of a song Chris Welch and I wrote and
produced (I'm surprided they didn't list us as procuders) that Roulette
wanted for a new group featuring Gary Knight on lead vocal. They used
out track and Gary's lead and called it Castle Creek. Steve Barri later
cut it on me on ABC\Dunhill.
Austin
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:29:52 -0000
From: Carol-Anne Lennie
Subject: Re: ELO Clones
Mark Hill:
> Other 70s to 90s songs that owe a debt to ELO:
Add Pugwash (see 'Keep Movin' On' from 'Almanac', amongst others)
from Ireland to the list. Great band.
http://www.pugwashtheband.com/
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:44:25 -0500
From: Dr Mark
Subject: Sock It To Me Time: Strawberry Alarm Clock on "Laugh-In"
I'm a video watchdog and you never know when you're going to be
surprised with a great rock moment on TV.
Just today, I'm watching a rerun of "Laugh-In" on the Trio network.
Trio shows completely restored and uncut hour long shows. Not the
hacked up half hours that were on TV 10 years or so ago. A lot was
missing from them. Like musical acts.
I was pleased to see Dan and Dick introduce the Strawberry Alarm
Clock.
They don't appear live, but rather they are presented in a film clip.
Not lip-synching. But the song plays while they cut up. Not unlike
the Beatles would have on film. They are all wearing yellow raincoats
and hats. They are driving around in a big black and silver, classic
looking 1950s car. Then they stop near a bridge and start destroying
the car with sledgehammers. Then drive off in the wreckage.
Not sure exactly what song they sang. I'm not overly familiar with
Strawberry Alarm Clock, outside of "Incense and Peppermints".
Some of the lyrics they sang were:
"We live in a word of troubles... Buildings to the sky... That make us
want to fly."
"Dr. Mark" Hill * The Doctor Of Pop Culture
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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:03:50 -0500
From: Doowopdaddy
Subject: Re: Rag Dolls / Bernadette Carroll
> I am looking for any CD's that would contain songs by two
> of my favorite "girl-group sound" performers, The Rag Dolls
> and Bernadette Carroll. Any suggestions?
Bob,
There is a bootleg CD out there called the "Carroll Girls"
that has songs from all the girl singers with the last name
of Carroll. I have seen it on Ebay from time to time. It has
a total of about 30 songs, with maybe 6-7 from Bernadette
Carroll.
As far as the Rag Dolls go - nothing on any released CD so
far. But let's keep our fingers crossed. Someone should do a
CD from Jean Thomas / Rag Dolls / Angie and the Chicklettes /
Ramblettes / Beach Girls / etc., etc. This project is LONG
overdue !!
doowopdaddy
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:56:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Norm D
Subject: Re: Running times
Richard Williams wrote:
> Isn't it strange that as attention spans get
> shorter, tunes get longer?
Well, Richard, thanks for alerting me to Spectropop
with your short piece in last Friday's "Guardian".
It's a great wealth of passion and information. I
could stay there all day if someone brought me food
from time to time
Norm D. Plume (S.E. London)
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