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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: 60s Girly Sounds A-go-go! Saturday 17th Aril Brighton
From: Chris King
2. Frank's bottom
From: Chris Schneider
3. Re: Artists who do covers in concert instead of their own songs
From: James Botticelli
4. Re: "Happy Together"
From: Karen Andrew
5. Bobby Vee & Jan Berry Photo
From: Bob Celli
6. Re: Joe Saraceno
From: Mac Joseph
7. Sha Na Na
From: Karen Andrew
8. Re: Frank's bottom
From: Paul Bryant
9. Re: commercially speaking / Happy Together
From: Mark A. Johnston
10. Re: Ringo records
From: Artie Wayne
11. Re: Artists who do covers in concert instead of their own songs
From: Al Kooper
12. Re: Artists who do covers in concert instead of their own songs
From: David Ponak
13. Dual 45s
From: Joe Nelson
14. Howard Kaylan autobiography?
From: Dan Hughes
15. Paris Sisters new Cd on Eric
From: Clark Besch
16. RIP, actress Carrie Snodgress
From: Country Paul
17. Re: Edison Lighthouse & Wrecking Crew
From: Leslie Fradkin
18. Re: Latest fanzine available!
From: Jeff Lemlich
19. FGG; Chartbusters
From: Country Paul
20. Artists doing covers; LA Weekly article
From: Country Paul
21. Artists who do covers in concert instead of their own songs
From: Alan (Albabe) Gordon
22. The Liverpools - Beatle Covers
From: Paul Urbahns
23. Re: The Portraits
From: Gary Myers
24. Comfortable Chair now on musica; Chordettes; Paul Simon; "So Fine"
From: Country Paul
25. Re: The Paul Simon Songbook CD
From: KB
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 07:13:25 +0100
From: Chris King
Subject: Re: 60s Girly Sounds A-go-go! Saturday 17th Aril Brighton
Dear South Brit-based Spectropoppers -
Da Doo Ron Ron - the one & only 60s girl group club - return for our
monthly sashay through the femme-centric side of the 60s on Saturday
APRIL 17th @ the Sussex Arts Club, 07 , Ship St, Brighton, BN1. Doors
9pm to 2am.
Admission:-£5 if names are reserved by e-mail:-
dadooronron.club@ntlworld.com / £6 on the door on the night.
Alternatively, you can phone reservations via Tel:-01273-778020/727371.
Established in October 1998 (in North London), Da Doo Ron Ron is a 60s
orientated club night with a unique slant. In a tribute to original
'girl power', DDRR DJs Chris 'Da Doo' King & Simon Bridger (Brighton
Northern Soul All-dayers) only spin female-fronted tracks from the
swingin' sixties. You will never hear a male lead vocal at DDRR! The
club's musical menu is a femme-centric celebration of 60s girl groups
such as The Ronettes, Marvelettes, Shangri-Las, Supremes, Chiffons,
Crystals, Angels etc, sassy soul sisters like Aretha, Dusty Springfield,
Maxine
Brown, Brenda Holloway and playful popstrels in the vein of Petula
Clark, Lesley Gore and Helen Shapiro.
For further info. please check the Da Doo web-site:-
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dadooronron/
"Da Doo Ron Ron - A 'femme-centric' selection of back-combed
harmonizing".
The Guardian - Number 1 Clubs 'Pick Of The Week' November 2003
Many thanks indeed for your indulgence,
Kindest regards,
Chris Da Doo
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 14:26:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Schneider
Subject: Frank's bottom
Dave Heasman on Sinatra singing "Downtown":
> a cry of "mop mop" was popular among the jump blues fraternity in
> the late '40s, where Sinatra lived.
It's all before my time -- honest! -- but I got to know the term "mop"
through the Duke Ellington/Sid Kuller song "Bli-Blip," which dates
from around 1941. There, it's used as a monosyllabic exclamation of
astonishment. Sort-a like "PLOTZ!!" (Or am I using "plotz" correctly?
You'll have to advise me on this, Rashkovsky.) In any case, that's how
it sounds on my recording, which comes from the Ella Fitzgerald/Duke
Ellington Songbook.
"My Love To You I Bring On Account-A You Can Sing ..."
Chris
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:44:28 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Artists who do covers in concert instead of their own songs
Steve Harvey wrote:
> You're not alone on this issue. Miami Steve Van Zandt did a similar
> bit about seeing Solomon Burke and how he hated seeing acts ignore
> their own material for other artist's stuff.
Point taken, but Van Zandt is on a hefty payroll in two arenas. Is
Burke? I don't THINK so...
> I think it was "Cry To Me" that Steve wanted to hear for the encore,
> but got "Proud Mary" instead! What was he thinking?
Who? Steve? or Solomon? Because in these cases its always a risk for
the hitherto unknown suddenly catapulted into the media spotlight as
an icon, a true representative of a 'real' past hitherto unexplored,
to boldly venture where no shoe has trod. What would a Solomon Burke,
probably not swimming in the excesses of wealth, do given 'alf a
chance? He'd do the safest most advisable thing to do. He'd dance
with the gal that brung him. He'd offer the 30ish crowd, who would be
most responsive to catching a taste of 'real' history, an array of
personal favorites and self-crafted chestnuts to assure posterity in
every mindset. And it would be the right thing to do for him.
JB
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 18:34:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Karen Andrew
Subject: Re: "Happy Together"
Re: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53361-2004Apr5.html
Great article - had me laughing but also got me to thinking. These
commercial types don't give a hoot about all of the original people
involved in a popular song so Flo and Eddy are insulted and worried
about their reputation. Afraid fans will think they sold out. I
can't blame them for thinking this!
I love what he quoted Alan Gordon as saying: "What it evolved into,"
he added, his voice trailing off. "I get religious. It's been such a
gift from God. It's hard to put into words what that song means to me.
I know I wrote it, but it's taken on . . . it's hard to explain.
You're driving down the highway and you hear your song coming out of
someone's car. The angels heard me praying the day I wrote 'Happy
Together.' "
Wow!
KA
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:10:03 -0000
From: Bob Celli
Subject: Bobby Vee & Jan Berry Photo
I posted a photo I took of Bobby Vee & Jan Berry at the Ohio State
Fairgrounds in Columbus, Ohio I believe in 1991. Jan was in great
spirits and looking well at the time. This was a great show which
included The Everly Brothers, and Dion, along with Jan & Dean and
Bobby.
Bob Celli
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 04:37:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mac Joseph
Subject: Re: Joe Saraceno
Dear Martin,
Thanks for the input about Joe Saraceno. I will definitely check
out Gary's website. Sounds like interesting reading. See another
gentleman wrote back and stated that Bones Howe had been the
engineer on those great records. I had "No Matter What Shape" by
the T-Bones, (Liberty Records as I recall, and Bones Howe's name
is listed as engineer, but I thought that Joe Saraceno was the
producer. Anyhow, thanks again for the info.
Take care, Mac Joseph
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 18:48:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Karen Andrew
Subject: Sha Na Na
Clark Besch wrote:
> Hi, was digging in th vinyl again last night. I realized our
> Artie Wayne and Alan Gordon both had ties to Sha Na Na in 1974/5!
Is this the same Sha Na Na that had the TV program in the 80s
(I think)? If so, what a great show! "Acting" out the songs
really made me appreciate some of those doo wop oldies and was
also an intro. to the doo wops. But, they also sang other types
of pop music and it was a lot of fun.
KA
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 01:35:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Bryant
Subject: Re: Frank's bottom
Simon White on Sinatra's "Downtown":
> It goes:
> "When you're alone
> and life is making you lonely
> you can always go
> "Eeeughh"
> Downtown".
> It is hilarious.
This is a New Jersey term of approbation and affection, as in "Hey,
Frankie, you lookin', eeeughh, great!"
pb
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 21:35:32 -0400
From: Mark A. Johnston
Subject: Re: commercially speaking / Happy Together
I am a long-time Turtles fan and I think Mark should be happy people
even take notice. I am sure it will sell more records in the end, as
people want to search out the Turtles version after being reminded
on major commercial television. I also think it is funny, as Mark
doesn't own the song. I also think artists should be paid and make
some money for their works. I hope this influx of cash helps you to
be more comfortable or do something you really enjoy for you or your
family members. The change of lyrics has not tarnished the song - it
is brilliant pop and always will be.
I need a new Porsche and I know I would be getting on my publishers
to place some more commercials post haste :-) Last time I checked,
you couldn't take it with you.
MAJ
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 09:26:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Ringo records
Clark.......Eddy.......Phil M......How ya' doin'? You might want
to add a record I wrote and produced, "You Can't go Far....Unless
You're Ringo Starr" by Neil Sheppard. I sold it as a master to
Bernie Lawrence who put it out on his brother Steve Lawrences'
label, he had with Don Costa.
I swore to Bernie it wasn't me singing and even introduced him to
Canadian singer Neil Sheppard who was. Then we had a problem.....
......there was a word in the song that sounded like F*#% and for
one reason or another, Bernie wanted it changed before they
released the record. Unfortunately, Neil was back in Canada......
but since we sounded alike I decided to go into the studio myself
and punch in another word. As we were trying to make it work.....
the engineer erased three good lines!!!
Now I had a choice to make.....kill the engineer or replace the
entire vocal [who would notice anyway....since we sounded so much
alike?] As I was finishing up the last line of the song, Bernie,
Steve Lawrence and Don Costa walked into the studio. It was one of
the few times in my life I was at a loss for words.
regards, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com/
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 10:06:49 EDT
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Re: Artists who do covers in concert instead of their own songs
Steve Harvey:
> You're not alone on this issue. Miami Steve Van Zandt did a similar
> bit about seeing Solomon Burke and how he hated seeing acts ignore
> their own material for other artist's stuff. I think it was "Cry To
> Me" that Steve wanted to hear for the encore, but got "Proud Mary"
> instead! What was he thinking?
Solomon was thinking he was doing HIS version of PM which was released
about 20 or so years ago.
Al "Keeps On Turnin'" Kooper
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 12:07:00 -0400
From: David Ponak
Subject: Re: Artists who do covers in concert instead of their own songs
The same thing happened to me a couple of years ago when I went to
one of those doo-wop shows at the Univeral Amphitheater here in Los
Angeles. The Tokens performed, and they were simply amazing vocally;
however, they did very few Tokens songs. I felt like I was watching
a well honed wedding band! (To their credit, they did do a short set
of songs they wrote or produced, so we ended up hearing nice
versions of a couple of Happenings songs.)
Conversely, I saw Gene Pitney at the same venue about 7 years ago,
and his set list was a hardcore fan's dream.
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:26:06 -0400
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Dual 45s
Clark Besch:
> After that, in 1975, they released "Shanghied" (KA 604) co-written
> by Artie Wayne. It's a small Sha Na Na world, after all! Funny
> that in 75, they were still putting "Dual 45" on their labels. How
> many still had mono players in 75?
Always wondered what "Dual 45" meant, and I'm still not sure. May I
beg for clarification?
Joe Nelson
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:48:13 -0500
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Howard Kaylan autobiography?
Yo Alan--my wife heard on an oldies station this morning that Howard
Kaylan is coming out with his autobiography. Wonder if you'd heard
anything about this, or know how to get a copy? Okay, a SIGNED copy??
Thanks,
---Dan
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 00:38:18 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Paris Sisters new Cd on Eric
Hi, was talking to Bill Buster today at Eric and he was telling me
about his upcoming Cds.
For anyone interested in the Paris Sisters, Eric will be releasing
their one Reprise Lp, "Sing Everything Under the Sun", in stereo from
the master tapes with a fabulous booklet and of course, Tom Daly
doing the sound on this Jack Nitzsche and Jimmy Bowen production.
Both it and Vol 3 of his Teen Time series (including more first time
domestically released on Cd songs) will be released in May. Vol 3
said to include one of my faves, Mark Dinning's "Top 40, News,
Weather & Sports"!
Check out Vol 1 & 2 at http://www.ericrecords.com
Clark
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 16:29:57 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: RIP, actress Carrie Snodgress
Excerpted from the AP, and touching on the lives of people of
interest to this group:
Actress Carrie Snodgress, whose 40-year career included an Oscar
nomination for "Diary of a Mad Housewife" and memorable roles in
"Pale Rider" and "Wild Things," died of heart failure at age 57
on April 1 in Los Angeles...."Her son, Zeke, by rock star Neil
Young, was at her side....
"Despite critical acclaim for her role in "Housewife," Snodgress
turned her back on Hollywood in 1971 to live with boyfriend Neil
Young on his northern California ranch and care for their son,
who was born with cerebral palsy.
"She spent more than seven years with Young before she left and
returned to Los Angeles, later suing him for child support.
"In 1979, her ex-boyfriend, songwriter Jack Nitzsche, was charged
with threatening to kill her after he barged into her home and beat
her with a handgun. He pleaded guilty to threatening her and was
fined and placed on three years' probation.
"Picking up her career after a long absence wasn't easy, Snodgress
later said. She was initially tapped to star opposite Sylvester
Stallone in "Rocky" but lost the role over a salary dispute."
Country Paul
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:11:43 -0600
From: Leslie Fradkin
Subject: Re: Edison Lighthouse & Wrecking Crew
Eddy:
> It is my pleasure to announce that Les Fradkin will be releasing a
> NEW CD by Edison Lighthouse called "Perfect World". It will feature
> both new material and re-do's of "Beach Baby", "Love Grows (where
> my Rosemary goes)", "My Baby Loves Lovin'", "Funny How Love Can Be",
> and "Smile A Little Smile For Me."
>
> The new single (recorded in 1996 in California) will be "God Bless
> California" which, although an old melody, has been re-done with
> new sunny California words and incredible Beach Boys harmonies. It
> sounds like "Help Me Rhonda " meets "California Girls." It features
> the LAST ever session of Phil Spector's "Wrecking Crew":
> The musicians on the session were:
> Drums: Hal Blaine
> Bass: Carol Kaye
> Piano & Organ: Don Randi
> Rickenbacker 12-String: Les Fradkin
> Rhythm Guitars: Mitch Holder, Eddie Bertrand & Les Fradkin
> Mellotron & Synths: Les Fradkin
> Engineered by Larry Levine and Les Fradkin
> Produced by Les Fradkin
> Lead Vocals by Les Fradkin
> This looks like it's gonna be a smash !!
Dear Eddy,
Don Randi verified yesterday to me by phone, that "God Bless
California" was, indeed, the LAST session the "Wrecking Crew" recorded
together as an ensemble. The CD will be released at the end of April.
Love continues to grow,
Les
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 20:38:13 -0000
From: Jeff Lemlich
Subject: Re: Latest fanzine available!
Howard wrote:
> Just to let anyone know who may be interested, Soul Up North #43
> is now available. This issue includes a great article from
> 'Spectropopper' Jeff Lemlich on the Sandpipers along with Howard
> Priestly's lowdown on GC Cameron -- plus there are loads and loads
> of vinyl reviews ranging from 60's -- Northern soul, Chicago Soul,
> R&B etc....
I should mention this is not the "Guantanamera" Sandpipers, but the
group of 13 & 14-year-olds that appeared on Tru-Glo-Town. They were
Florida's answer to the Shangri-Las, and the reason I was asking
those Trude Heller questions earlier :)
Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 18:17:25 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: FGG; Chartbusters
Tom Adams, I finally got to check out the Bob Feldman interviews at
http://www.bouldercool.com/FGG/index.htm. Great stuff; thank you. All
the pictures are very cool, too!
Mick Patrick:
> The Pin-Ups "Lookin' For Boys" (Stork 1, 1964). Written by
> Martine, Feldman, Goldstein and Gottehrer. Arranged by Leroy Glover.
> A Feldman/Goldstein/Gottehrer Production. F/G/G's revenge on the
> Angels: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Great fun. The background voices sound like they're about 12 or 13! But
as Bob Feldman said, it was a 3000-mile roadtrip with jailbait. And the
Santells version of "So Fine" is interesting - a bit like the Fiestas
on speed! :-)
Clark Besch:
> A great example of how strange these songs got in imitating the
> Beatles was the kinda hillbilly "She's the One" by the Chartbusters.
> It went into the top 40, and I really like it, but it's funny to
> think people thought this to be the Beatles.
I don't think people thought they were the Beatles. Remember that, at
that time, every second band in America was trying to "get" the new
sound; for a while, in some circles (quite a few, actually), there was
nothing more dated than early 60's pop. The best of the groups trying
on the new sound came up with their own versions of it. I happened to
see the Chartbusters live when "She's The One" was hitting. No confusion
with the Beatles; rather, they were a really good rock band in their own
right - from the Philadelphia area, I believe - with high energy, a
driving beat, and (under the Beatle influence) longer hair (but still
greased into a pompadour, at least on the bass player).
Country Paul
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 18:34:50 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Artists doing covers; LA Weekly article
Mike McKay on artists who do covers in concert instead of their own songs:
> I think the answer to your question is that the acts you've gone to
> see have gone from artists to entertainers. Their audiences are
> composed mainly of people for whom music is a casual diversion rather
> than a passion, and audience members such as you and I are few and
> far between.
Agreed - it's forgiveable in a second-level hotel lounge; but for a
gathering of afficianados, like the UGHA meeting/concert I previously
mentioned where the Edsels only did two of their own songs - it's pretty
much unforgiveable. And yes, they *knew* the make-up of that audience. The
Passions - who shared the bill - did about half covers, but they did all
their own songs that this knowledgeable audience would remember as well.
Bryan, Re: L.A. Weekly article about session musicians in L.A.
> http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/20/features-lloyd.php
I'm gonna need an hour just to read it and all the related articles.
Thanks for the link!
Country Paul
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 17:06:58 -0700
From: Alan (Albabe) Gordon
Subject: Artists who do covers in concert instead of their own songs
Hall and Oates almost always do a 60's or 70's cover tune every
time they tour. Their version of "Me and Mrs. Jones" is amazing.
~albabe
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:23:24 EDT
From: Paul Urbahns
Subject: The Liverpools - Beatle Covers
Mark Hill wrote:
> This was just in our local paper "40 Years Ago" column: March 13,
> 1964: The Buckeye Mart discount department store, offered the album,
> "Beatle Mania" for 87 cents. It had Beatles hits performed by The
> Liverpools.
Mark,
Believe it or not there were two albums of songs issued under the name
"The Liverpools" both on the Wyncote label. You can get a general idea
of this label by looking at the discography at www.bsnpubs.com website.
Looking at the cover I think I have that album, but not handy.
W/SW-9001 - Beatle Mania! in the U.S.A. - Liverpools [1964] She Loves
You/Be My Girl/I Want to Hold Your Hand/Hey Quiet Down There/Did You
Ever Get My Letter//I Saw Here Standing There/Never Mind/Please Please
Me/Chuck's Monster/Whenever I'm Feelin Low
W/SW-9061 - The Hit Sounds From England - Liverpools [1964] House Of
The Rising Sun/Be My Girl/Don't Throw Your Love Away/He/Quiet Down
There/Did You Ever Get My Letter/I Like It/Never Mind/She's Not There/
Chuck's Monster/Whenever I'm Feelin Low
You will notice the original songs are repeated on both albums and
these were used as filler. Those songs were:Be My Girl; Hey Quiet Down
There; Did You Ever Get My Letter; Never Mind; Chuck's Monster; Whenever
I'm Feeling Low.
Now to answer a question from someone on the list as to why these albums
were issued. They were "promotionally priced" albums. They were usually
sold directly to stores in an assortment of titles. Probably the store
paid 50 cents for new albums and they could sell them for anything they
wanted. They would advertise these albums in the newspaper ads to get
people into the store so they will buy something else. These are not
industry "cutouts" which are discontinued albums. The cut out market
drove these type albums out of business.
One interesting sidelight on the Wyncote label. It was a division of
Cameo Parkway and reissued many of the Cameo Parkway artists and albums
in a low priced format. If the original album was mono on Cameo Parkway
then it was rechanneled stereo on Wyncote. But If it was an original
Wyncote album it was usually in real stereo. So Cameo Parkway was
issuing mono Lps on their full priced label and stereo and mono releases
on its dollar label.
I have never understood that.
Paul Urbahns
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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:13:20 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: The Portraits
Martin, thanks very much for your continued interest in the Portraits. :-)
Here's a little more Jerry Tawney info that might be of interest: Jerry
was originally from West Virginia where another singer friend of his was
Turley Richards. When the Portraits did our Shafer Beer commercial (4/68),
Richards was in NYC, Jerry contacted him, and he came down to the studio.
I located Richards (who is now blind) a few years ago for some discography
questions.
gem
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Message: 24
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:41:46 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Comfortable Chair now on musica; Chordettes; Paul Simon; "So Fine"
I took Bernie Schwartz's "Follow Me" down from musica, and have
played a gorgeous earlier effort, The Comfortable Chair's "Some
Soon, Some Day," Ode ZS-105, 1968. This gorgeous B-side of their
45 was also on their lone album. It's produced by Kreiger and
Densmore of the Doors - but I promise you this is very un-Doors-
like.
I also posted a track to Harmony High - the Chordettes "A Broken
Vow" (rec. 1960, rel. 1961), a beautiful and sweet song which was
a very small hit toward the end of their career on Cadence, and
an all-time favorite/guilty pleasure of mine. It was originally
written and recorded by the Bush Boys (no relation to the US
political family) on Capitol in 1960. It can be found at:
http://tinyurl.com/3672v
Speaking of musica, The Caper Brothers is quite interesting - but
it cut out abruptly at 1:44. Is it my listening device, or did it
do that when played to musica?
Al Kooper, thank you for the background on the Paul Simon Songbook.
Your notes convinced me to put buying it on my to-do list for
tomrorow.
Mick Patrick:
> The Santells "So Fine" (Courier 115, 1964). Written by Jim Gribble
> (it says here).
Gribble also gets writer credit on my original Fiestas pressing on
Old Town.
Country Paul
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Message: 25
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 19:03:56 -0700
From: KB
Subject: Re: The Paul Simon Songbook CD
"The Paul Simon Songbook" was also (re)released in the mid-70s as
part of a Columbia Records 4 or 5 vinyl LP set. The box set
included all of Simon's solo albums up to that point. I purchased
the set (used) for a friend of mine years ago.
The set must have been part of some Columbia Record Club deal or
a way to capitalize on Simon's surge in popularity after the huge
success of "Still Crazy After All These Years"
Does anyone else have any details on this box set? I've always
assumed it was an American release, but it might have come out of
the UK.
By the way, "The Paul Simon Songbook" is great. It's a perfect
way to hear classic Simon songs in their true, unadorned state(s)
- KB
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