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There are 22 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Moulty heroic
From: Mac Joseph
2. Re: Moulty heroic
From: Phil X Milstein
3. Tony Rivers
From: JK
4. Re: Carole King & Gerry Goffin's "So Goes Love"
From: David Goodwin
5. Re: American Film Institute top 100 movie songs
From: John Fox
6. Everlys' "Beat & Soul"
From: Andrew C Jones
7. Re: Moulty heroic
From: Dave OGara
8. Re: Alice in Wonderland (BBC 1966)
From: Sraiii
9. Re: Goffin-Keller
From: Alan Warner
10. Carole King demo for "I Can't Say Goodbye" to Musica
From: Bob Celli
11. Re: Donny Gerrard & Skylark
From: Mike McKay
12. Lollipop Shoppe
From: Phil X Milstein
13. New Lime
From: Gary M Morris
14. Stephen McParland's new book (Australian surf)
From: Ron Weekes
15. Re: Moulty heroic
From: Joe Nelson
16. Stone-Age Woo - Nervous Norvus!
From: Wes Smith
17. Re: Everlys' "Beat & Soul"
From: Phil X Milstein
18. Re: Moulty heroic
From: Bob Wallis
19. Re: New Lime / Cincinnati
From: Gary Myers
20. Re: Goffin-Keller
From: Bob Celli
21. Meeting Larry Knetchtel
From: Doug
22. Nervous Norvus meets Mike Clifford
From: Mick Patrick
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:48:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mac Joseph
Subject: Re: Moulty heroic
Mike McKay wrote:
> The Cryan' Shames (J.C. Hooke -- who would have had a hard time
> playing much else as he really did have a hook!)
Phil M:
> That never stopped Moulty!
Al Kooper:
> I produced a band in the early 70's named Mose Jones. Their bassist,
> Randy Lewis, (also a GREAT singer) was short one right hand and
> created a device he strapped on his stump that enabled him to play
> quite well. Little known (we didn't publicize it) but moulty heroic.
Moulty and the Barbarians. I believe they were from Boston. Does anyone
know whatever happened to Moulty after his "autobiographical classic,
Moulty?"
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:55:49 +0000
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Moulty heroic
Al Kooper wrote:
> I produced a band in the early 70's named Mose Jones. Their bassist,
> Randy Lewis, (also a GREAT singer) was short one right hand and
> created a device he strapped on his stump that enabled him to play
> quite well. Little known (we didn't publicize it) but moulty heroic.
Memphis madman Tav Falco had a lead guitarist for a while in his group
Panther Burns who had a stump in place of his strumming hand. Lacking
any sort of external device a la Al's report above, this cat's style was
rather on the wild side -- ragged but "right," one might say.
--Phil M.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:58:04 EDT
From: JK
Subject: Tony Rivers
Previously:
> Nice to have you on board Dennis, any chance you can play your
> band's Beach Boys cover "Girl Don't Tell Me" to musica? The band
> for those who wondered is the Smithereens.
Without any doubt, the ultimate version of Girl Don't Tell Me, is by
Tony Rivers and the Castaways from 1966, probably one of the few
times a Beach boys track has been bettered...no question.
Tony also covered God Only Knows after being assured by Bruce Johnston
that the BB's weren't releasing it as a single....oh yes....
Also check out the Rivers, Harmony Grass CD's from EM Records in Japan
and RPM in the UK including the wonderful Harmony Grass CD "This Is
Us" an absolute classic.
EM records have also put out a 7" single of Tony's son Anthony's
version of Caroline No by Brian Wilson an absolute treasure which
Brian apparently keeps very close and rates very highly...I can
understand why having heard it.....JK
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:36:30 -0400
From: David Goodwin
Subject: Re: Carole King & Gerry Goffin's "So Goes Love"
The Turtles version is available in a lot of places, actually: the
Laserlight set, the Repertoire reissues, the Rhino "Best of the
Turtles Vol. 2," etc. It's a common track, despite its unreleased
-at-the-time status.
-David
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:57:29 EDT
From: John Fox
Subject: Re: American Film Institute top 100 movie songs
I just glanced at the list and found it odd that they would consider
"Ain't Too Proud To Beg" as being from "The Big Chill". True--it's
a great song, and true--that movie probably brought it to a new level
of popularity (a la "Unchained Melody" and the movie "Ghost"). But
virtually every other song on the top 100 list ties in with its movie
--even "Old Time Rock & Roll". As I recall, "Ain't Too Proud To Beg"
was playing in the background while the cast was doing the dishes
after dinner--hardly a plot tie-in. I guess they were scrounging for
100 songs.
John Fox
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:20:13 -0400
From: Andrew C Jones
Subject: Everlys' "Beat & Soul"
Glad to see (finally!) some good words about the Everly Brothers'
later-Sixties WB albums. When I was a kid, I got a copy of the Everlys'
"Beat & Soul" album (by then, of course, it came from the cutout shelf);
personally, I still love side one, and the opening track on side two,
the Don & Phil original "Man With Money" (later re-done by Saturday's
Children). Anybody else know this album?
ACJ
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 01:10:40 -0000
From: Dave OGara
Subject: Re: Moulty heroic
Mac Joseph wrote:
> Moulty and the Barbarians. I believe they were from Boston. Does
> anyone know whatever happened to Moulty after his "autobiographical
> classic, Moulty?"
Relying on memory here, but I seem to recall having a business card
handed to me by a record collector back in the '90s that showed a
Vincent Moulton (Moulty) having an automobile restoration business.
Can't remember where the business was located. Perhaps some of our
rather well-connected members can expand on this.
Strange to read this post today as I just happened to hear Are You Boy
Or Are You A Girl by The Barbarians this afternoon. As a side note, I
remember seeing Moulty and the guys in person just one time as a
teenager -- they were hanging around the center of Provincetown, MA,
as my family was passing through. I believe this would have been circa
1966 or '67.
Dave O'
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 01:56:08 EDT
From: Sraiii
Subject: Re: Alice in Wonderland (BBC 1966)
Steve Harvey wrote:
> Just got done watching the DVD of Alice In Wonderland, a
> 1966 BBC production.
Where did you find this? It sounds great.
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 03:06:08 -0700
From: Alan Warner
Subject: Re: Goffin-Keller
Don wrote:
> "Run To Him" was written by Goffin/Keller. I just posted a country
> version of that song to musica, by Albert West.
In addition, Little Eva cut a gender-altered version of this song, as Run
To Her, for Dimension in 1962. Beverly Bremers revived the same song
on Scepter in '73, and in the early 80's, Jennifer Warnes cut a version for
Arista.
FYI, among the other songs on which Gerry Goffin collaborated with
Jack Keller are:
DON'T ASK ME TO BE FRIENDS
- by The Everly Brothers (Warner Bros: 1962) and later by Cliff Richard
A FOREVER KIND OF LOVE
- by Bobby Vee (Liberty: 1962) and also by Cliff Richard
GIRLS GROW UP FASTER THAN BOYS
- by The Cookies (Dimension: 1963)
HOW CAN I MEET HER
- by The Everly Brothers (Warner Bros: 1962)
IT STARTED ALL OVER AGAIN
- by Brenda Lee (Decca: 1962) and also by Carole King on Dimension
LET'S TURKEY TROT
- by Little Eva (Dimension: 1963)
LITTLE HOLLYWOOD GIRL
- by The Crickets (Liberty: 1962) and also by The Everly Brothers on
Warner Bros.
NO ONE CAN MAKE MY SUNSHINE SMILE
- by The Everly Brothers (Warner Bros: 1962)
THE TROUBLE WITH BOYS
- by Little Eva (Dimension: 1963)
Rock on!
Alan Warner
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:19:20 -0000
From: Bob Celli
Subject: Carole King demo for "I Can't Say Goodbye" to Musica
Frank Young:
> Combining two faves, the Everlys and a seldom-heard Goffin/King
> song, I've posted the unissued 1962 track "I Can't Say Goodbye To
> You" on musica. I have tons more out of print Everlys tracks, if
> you'd like to hear more...
I just posted Carole King's demo of "I Can't Say Goodbye" to musica.
This is a real treasure! Sorry for a couple of skips but I only had one
chance to tape it, and very little time! Enjoy!
Bob Celli
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:30:37 EDT
From: Mike McKay
Subject: Re: Donny Gerrard & Skylark
I wrote:
> Skylark (their guitarist sang the lead on "Wildflower" -- meanwhile
> the girl and the black guy sang backups but didn't play anything)
Patrick Beckers replied:
> The "black guy" is Donny Gerrard and he was the (male) lead singer
> of Skylark and also sang lead on Wildflower. It wasn't the guitarist
> who sang lead.
When I saw Skylark perform "Wildflower" on TV when it was a hit, I
clearly remember Donny Gerrard holding (if not playing) a guitar as he
sang the lead vocals. He had an Afro and a beard and had sort of the
generic hippy look of the time, and, as he was somewhat light-skinned,
I honestly didn't know if he was black or not (there were plenty of white
guys with that look at the time as well).
I realize Gerrard is not credited with playing guitar on their records, but
I'd all but bet my life he was playing one when I saw this TV performance.
Meanwhile, there was another member of Skylark, Carl Graves, who was
darker-skinned and had the more traditional look of an R&B singer -- which
it turned out he was, having fronted a Canadian group called Soul Unlimited
in the 60s. He and B.J. Cook, who at the time was married to the group's
keyboardist David Foster (later of Celine Dion and other infamy), both
sang backup vocals on "Wildflower" -- the response vocals to "she's a lady"
and "child," for example.
Hence, I included Skylark as an example of group members who played
only percussion or no instrument at all and yet were not the group's primary
lead singer. In fairness, B.J. Cook did sing the lead on Skylark's follow-up
single "I'll Have to Go Away" (which I remember quite liking). And Graves
went on following the breakup of Skylark to have a couple of solo hits on
A&M.
Mike
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:57:55 +0000
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Lollipop Shoppe
Anyone know of any CD availability of the Lollipop Shoppe album --
whether legit, grey market, handmade, or otherwise? It's one of the
few records I ever regretted selling off, and now that I want it back
again it's selling for $200 and up.
Must be a witch,
--Phil M.
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:36:21 -0000
From: Gary M Morris
Subject: New Lime
Anybody know of a Midwest 60s group named New Lime? I heard them
as a kid in the early/mid-60s, living in Cincinnati. They had a garage-y
sound with a light, harmonic style (as I recall). All I've discovered is that
they were on Minaret and released at least one 45 (probably more).
Anybody know *anything* about this group? I've looked for a long time.
Thanks,
Gary
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:53:27 -0600
From: Ron Weekes
Subject: Stephen McParland's new book (Australian surf)
Just wanted to let you all know that Stephen McParland has just
published his most recent book. This should be of interest to
anyone who is interested in surf music. Details below.
Ron Weekes
www.garyusher.com
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WALTZING THE PLANK:
THE ILLUSTRATED ENCYCLOPEDIA OF AUSTRALIAN SURF MUSIC
1963-2003
by Stephen J McParland
(A4 size - 500 pages including 78 pages of photos and 24 full colour pages
of LP, EP, CD, Video, DVD and record labels. Also includes a full colour
soft cover and index)
Here in one cohesive form is a detailed look at the phenomenon of Australian
Surf Music, an all-encompassing musical genre that reflects the Australian
fascination with and love of the beach and its associated lifestyle.
Divided into two parts - "The First Wave" and "The Second Wave" - detailing
the respective eras of 1963-1965 and 1966-2003 respectively, WALTZING
THE PLANK presents all the facts and trivia in a variety of separate sections
that not only cover LP, 45rpm, CD, video and DVD releases, but a detailed
look at the musical genre itself and the recording artists (and associated
personnel) responsible for producing and promulgating the concept of
Australian Surf Music. Also included is a comprehensive documentation of
the "Stomp" dance craze; surfing films and their home grown soundtracks;
the 100% Mambo Battle Of The Surf Bands and glossaries of the surfing
vernacular, including specific indigenous terms.
Contents include:
Surfin' Sounds Downunder/Stomp, Stomp, Stompin' Australia Way/Surfin'
South Of The Border/Surfin' Wax 1/The A-Z Of Australian Surf Music 1/Detailed
Biographies & Discographies 1/Surfaspeak 1/Americana Vinylrama/Surfing
Celluloid/100% MAMBO Battle Of The Surf Bands 1986-1989/Surfin' Wax 2/
The A-Z Of Australian Surf Music 2/Detailed Biographies & Discographies 2/
Surfaspeak 2/Reissued Material/Photo ptions/Index, etc.
The book is $US50
Postage is:
AIRMAIL $US32
ECONOMY AIR is $US25
SEA is $US18
Hardcover available upon request. This book can only be ordered directly
from the author. For further information on this new release and his other
books, visit www.garyusher.com/cmusic.html
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 19:02:21 -0400
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Re: Moulty heroic
Mike McKay wrote:
> The Cryan' Shames (J.C. Hooke -- who would have had a hard time
> playing much else as he really did have a hook!)
Phil M:
> That never stopped Moulty!
Al Kooper:
> I produced a band in the early 70's named Mose Jones. Their bassist,
> Randy Lewis, (also a GREAT singer) was short one right hand and
> created a device he strapped on his stump that enabled him to play
> quite well. Little known (we didn't publicize it) but moulty heroic.
A few years ago I was vacationing upstate and the owners of the
campground we were staying in hired a country band to gig for the
night. Their bassist had injured his left hand somewhere along the way
(not sure what if anything he played before the incident), and was
left with only the thumb and pinky of his left (fretting) hand. He
bought a Hofner Beatle bass (very thin neck) and concentrated on bass
from that point. Not impressive for country? Well, they threw in a
couple of rock-n-roll tunes fo turn on "the rest" of the crowd, and it
was fascinating to watch him play "Footloose" - accurately. I had to
meet him afterward. I told him I was a bass player too, and was amazed
by what he could do with only two fingers. He said "thanks, comments
appreciated - but I sure miss the other three!"
Joe Nelson
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 02:24:41 -0000
From: Wes Smith
Subject: Stone-Age Woo - Nervous Norvus!
Hats off to Phil Milstein and everyone else connected with the new
Nervous Norvus C.D.! This C.D. is positively top rate ....I love
EVERYTHING about this package.
It's amazing how something this old and mostly obscure can be made
into such a top notch product! The liner notes alone are worth the
price of the whole package! Many new gems included for us diehard
Nervous Norvus fans. What more can I rave about it, except to say
it's incredibly outstanding.
Wes Smith
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:45:57 +0000
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Everlys' "Beat & Soul"
Andrew C Jones wrote:
> Glad to see (finally!) some good words about the Everly Brothers'
> later-Sixties WB albums. When I was a kid, I got a copy of the Everlys'
> "Beat & Soul" album (by then, of course, it came from the cutout shelf);
> personally, I still love side one, and the opening track on side two,
> the Don & Phil original "Man With Money" (later re-done by Saturday's
> Children). Anybody else know this album?
Yes, it's terrific. Backed by The Hollies, if I'm not mistaken. The Who
also did Man With Money.
--Phil M.
--
Ubi dubium ibi libertas:
"Where there is doubt there is freedom."
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 13:05:07 -0400
From: Bob Wallis
Subject: Re: Moulty heroic
Mac Joseph wrote:
> Moulty and the Barbarians. I believe they were from Boston. Does
> anyone know whatever happened to Moulty after his "autobiographical
> classic, Moulty?"
Dave O:
> Relying on memory here, but I seem to recall having a business card
> handed to me by a record collector back in the '90s that showed a
> Vincent Moulton (Moulty) having an automobile restoration business.
> Can't remember where the business was located. Perhaps some of our
> rather well-connected members can expand on this.
Last I heard, Vincent "Moulty Moulton" was living in Abington,
Massachusetts (south of Boston near the Rhode Island border). I've
heard all kinds of occupations - self defense trainer, landscaping and
now, auto restoration. I did see something about a reunion of sorts
for him and the Barbarians being bantered about back in 2002 but
nothing ever came of it that I know of and I read somewhere that
Vincent said he is "too old to rock anymore" - much the pity for the
act many consider the original garage band.
When I was a freshman at Northeastern University in Boston in 1967, I
remember going to a dance at the Boston YMCA, just up the street on
Huntington Avenue from NU, and Moulty and the Barbarians being the
band.
I recently found a DVD copy of the TAMI show with the Barbarians
segment - very solid performers.They get a cameo of sorts in the
opening credits, chasing Jan & Dean down what I surmise is Sunset
Boulevard.
Bob Wallis
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:30:08 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: New Lime / Cincinnati
Previously:
> Anybody know of a Midwest 60s group named New Lime? I heard them
> as a kid in the early/mid-60s, living in Cincinnati.
I can't help with New Lime, but I do have a possible Cincinnati
question: Ever heard of Stewart Self (possibly "& the Gents"). He
had a few early 60's releases on Chicago's Ermine label.
gem
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:48:53 -0000
From: Bob Celli
Subject: Re: Goffin-Keller
Don wrote:
> "Run To Him" was written by Goffin/Keller...
Alan Warner:
> ... FYI, among the other songs on which Gerry Goffin collaborated
> with Jack Keller are: (snip) NO ONE CAN MAKE MY SUNSHINE SMILE
> - by The Everly Brothers (Warner Bros: 1962) (snip)...
Bobby Vee also did a version of "No One Can Make My Sunshine Smile"
but it remains unreleased.
Bob Celli
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:40:05 -0000
From: Doug
Subject: Meeting Larry Knetchtel
Hello All:
It looks as if Larry Knetchtel has recovered from his surgery and is
starting to play around town again. I'm going to try to touch base
with him either tonight or tommorow at one of his gigs. Do any of you
warriors who've worked with him in the past want me to pass on any
regards or info to him? Hopefully, I'll be able to set up a lunch
meeting with him within the next month. Let me know.
Doug
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:23:57 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Nervous Norvus meets Mike Clifford
Wes Smith:
> Hats off to Phil Milstein and everyone else connected with the new
> Nervous Norvus C.D.! This C.D. is positively top rate ....I love
> EVERYTHING about this package.
>
> It's amazing how something this old and mostly obscure can be made
> into such a top notch product! The liner notes alone are worth the
> price of the whole package! Many new gems included for us diehard
> Nervous Norvus fans. What more can I rave about it, except to say
> it's incredibly outstanding.
Yes, Wes, but do you like it?! :-) Seriously, tell us uninitiated a
little more please: CD title, label, availability.
Me, previously:
> ...I've a pile of Mike Clifford...45s waiting to be digitized...
Al Kooper:
> You are so close to Cathy I can't believe it!
Cathy? She's just another girl! Me? One boy too late. What to
do with Laurie? That's what they said. Gee I don't remember. It
had better be tonight. Don't make her cry.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick (blood type O)
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