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There are 13 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Meeting Larry Knetchtel
From: Artie Butler
2. Re: Meeting Larry Knetchtel
From: Mark Wirtz
3. Re: Nervous Norvus meets Mike Clifford
From: James Botticelli
4. Evergreen Blues Band / New Lime
From: Andy
5. Re: Moulty heroic
From: James Botticelli
6. Marty Wilde & covers
From: Dave Heasman
7. Carole King - Sharing You
From: Alan (Albabe) Gordon
8. Re: Alice in Wonderland (BBC 1966)
From: Steve Harvey
9. Re: Meeting Larry Knetchtel
From: Austin Roberts
10. Instrumental groups; Farfisas; de-bassed
From: Country Paul
11. Re: Alice in Wonderland (BBC 1966)
From: JJ
12. Carole King "Just Once In My Life" demo
From: Mick Patrick
13. New @ S'pop
From: S'pop Team
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:34:15 EDT
From: Artie Butler
Subject: Re: Meeting Larry Knetchtel
Hi Doug,
Larry Knetchtel worked for me many times when I first moved to LA
in 1967. I can tell you that as good a musician as he was, that's
how nice a guy he was as well. He always gave you 100%. I do not
know what kind of surgery he had, but please do send him my regards
and best wishes. Tell him I am his biggest fan still after all
these years. I send him big hugs.
Best regards,
Artie Butler
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:35:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mark Wirtz
Subject: Re: Meeting Larry Knetchtel
Doug:
> It looks as if Larry Knetchtel has recovered from his surgery and
> is starting to play around town again. I'm going to try to touch
> base with him either tonight or tommorow at one of his gigs. Do
> any of you warriors who've worked with him in the past want me to
> pass on any regards or info to him? Hopefully, I'll be able to set
> up a lunch meeting with him within the next month. Let me know.
Yes, please convey my warmest regards and wishes to Larry, and tell
him he is still my keyboard hero!
Best,
Mark Wirtz
www.markwirtz.com
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 16:37:58 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Nervous Norvus meets Mike Clifford
Al Kooper to Mick Patrick:
> You are so close to Cathy I can't believe it!
Mick:
> Cathy? She's just another girl! Me? One boy too late. What to
> do with Laurie? That's what they said. Gee I don't remember. It
> had better be tonight. Don't make her cry.
Whoa, that's a lot of cake to leave out in the rain like that Mick.
JB
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 21:04:08 -0000
From: Andy
Subject: Evergreen Blues Band / New Lime
I was just given a "test" copy of Midnight Confessions by the
Evergreen Blues Band .... the Grass Roots covered it and had their
biggest hit with it, talk about a note-4-note copy !!!!!!
Don't know much about New Lime but I do have 2 (Columbia) listings
for them:
(1)She Kissed Me (With Her Eyes) b/w That Girl [67] (4-44017)
(2)Donna (R. ValenS) b/w The Gumdrop Trilogy [68] (4-44597)
Andy
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 16:33:43 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Moulty heroic
Bob Wallis wrote:
> I recently found a DVD copy of the TAMI show with the Barbarians
> segment - very solid performers.
I saw them in '67 summer at Irwin's Gardens on Lake Winnepausaukee
in New Hampshire. They opened for Vanilla Fudge. Their opening tune
was "She Said Yeah", taken from the Rolling Stones' 'December's
Children' LP. They were at that point thee loudest band I'd ever
heard. Blew me away with their show. And Moulty could bang those
skins. On another note, the late 80's found Moulty reissuing New
England area 6T's garage bands on his own vinyl label. I bought one
or two of them, but forget what it was now. At least that's what
the Used Record Salesman told me.
JB
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 00:07:51 +0100
From: Dave Heasman
Subject: Marty Wilde & covers
Austin Powell wrote:
> Marty Wilde covered "Endless Sleep", "Donna", "A Teenager In Love"
> and "Sea Of Love", but slowed up a bit on the cover versions after
> Bobby Vee held his own on "Rubber Ball". He also covered Robin
> Luke's "Bad Boy".
"Bad Boy" was a Wilde original. He wrote it.
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 16:43:40 -0700
From: Alan (Albabe) Gordon
Subject: Carole King - Sharing You
Someone may have already mentioned this in here, but what the heck:
The Carole King Demo in Musica, "Sharing You" sounds like it was
meant for the Everlys. It sounds like Carole even worked out their
trademark harmonies for 'em.
~albabe
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:14:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: Alice in Wonderland (BBC 1966)
Sraiii wrote:
> Where did you find this? It sounds great.
It was at the Wilmington, DE library I where I get
most of my DVDs. Never knew about it. Maybe Mark
Frumento can chime in where you can get it on the
internet. Anyone know if the Beatles ever saw this
version (the DVD has a 1906 version as well in the
bonus section).
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 23:00:55 EDT
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: Meeting Larry Knetchtel
Hey Doug,
Larry played on a few of the records I made and I got to know him
fairly well. What a talent and good guy. Saw him in Nashville
several years ago and picked right up, as if the years had stood
still. Larry may truly be the most versatile musician ever in pop
music. Please tell him Austin Roberts says hello.
Best, Austin
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 00:56:14 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Instrumental groups; Farfisas; de-bassed
Been down for a few days with a dead mouse - on the computer. (It's
hard to use the machine without it - like being a righty and trying
to write lefty!) Back to full strength now....
Mikey wrote:
> Since it's the last word on the second greatest Instrumental
> Group in the world (after The Ventures, of course) I hope they
> did it right.
Steve Harvey replied:
> I don't know about that, Mikey. As much as I love the Ventures I
> think the Shadows had the edge over them. Their material was
> generally stronger (thanks to Jerry Lordan) that alot of the
> Ventures' stuff....[The [Ventures'] original material wasn't as
> strong as the Shadows.
Gotta agree with Steve, but also put in a cheer for Duane Eddy & The
Rebels. More than any of the above, to me, his guitar sound was his
voice. Perhaps not the fastest picker in the west, but certainly one
of the most distinctive - and distinctively produced.
Joe Nelson mentions Ray Manzarek's Farfisa. Of course, Manzarek
wasn't the only one who played one. I had one in my old band [Benefit
Street out of Providence, RI, 1969-71], and despite the apparent
popularity of the sound, I hated its limited "nasal" sound. It always
struck me as being "a tuned short circuit." Anyone here share - or
dispute - that opinion? (BTW, to my relief, we eventually got a
Hammond, which, to the band's ears, "sounded more like us." The "far-
fuzzy" was strictly an initial financial decision - it was cheap!)
Artie Wayne Re: basslessness:
> As much as I hate to admit it, I've only learned recently (in the
> seventies) how important a bass is in recordings. I produced many
> records in the early sixties without having a clue ... much less
> a bass.
One track that I believe would've been a hit if it had only had a
bass was The Knight Owls' "Goody Galumpshus" (Cameo, maybe '67, pr.
Wes Farrell). It was a driving one-chord wonder with sorta bubble-
gummy lyrics - but it was in D, so the lowest note on the record was
less than an octave below middle C! In a "dancing about architecture"
analogy, it sounded like putting up a tall building without a
foundation! My first band in college had me on piano drums of course,
and two guitarists who were Chet Atkins-style fingerpickers at heart,
so we didn't miss the bass THAT much - although I had an exhausted
left hand by the end of the evening! My take on the concept has always
been that if it sounded like it needed a bass, it should have one.
Gary Myers:
> The Teddy Bears' "To Know Him Is To Love Him" has no bass.
Nor does "You" by The Aquatones - the original demo version which
became the hit. (Some tracks on their new album also seem to have no
bass, although my car CD player could have been overwhelmed by road
noise. Gotta re-listen at home.)
Country Paul
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 06:50:21 -0000
From: JJ
Subject: Re: Alice in Wonderland (BBC 1966)
Steve Harvey wrote:
> Just got done watching the DVD of Alice In Wonderland, a
> 1966 BBC production.
Sraiiii:
> Where did you find this? It sounds great.
Easiest is to purchase it thru Amazon.com.......it´s an AWESOME film!
JJ/Sweden
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 09:28:53 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Carole King "Just Once In My Life" demo
Mike Carter has:
> always found it fascinating that the British cover versions
> of Carole King and Gerry Goffin's tunes are so close to the
> original demos that I have heard, like Shirley Abicair's "So
> Goes Love" and another that comes to mind is The Action's
> version of "Just Once In My Life", so un-Phil Spector like,
> yet straight from Carole King's songbook...
This won't be news for Mike C, for it was he who supplied me
with a recording of the disc in question, but for those who
might not have heard it before, Carole King's original demo of
"Just Once In My Life" is currently playing @ musica. Again,
Carole sings the "male" lyrics in a low register. It's utterly
fabulous and quite unlike the Righteous Brothers' version:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
As we all know, we have amongst our fellow S'pop members, many
songwriters, performers and industry insiders. Hey chaps, do
any of you have any songwriter demos secreted away in a trunk
or somewhere that you'd care to share with the rest of us?
Y'know, the Cookies doing "Blame It On The Bossa Nova", Dee
Dee Warwick's demo of "Running Out Of Fools", stuff like that.
Bob Celli:
> I just posted Carole King's demo of "I Can't Say Goodbye" to
> musica. This is a real treasure! Sorry for a couple of skips
> but I only had one chance to tape it, and very little time!
> Enjoy!
Thanks so much, Bob, for this and "Sharing You". I know you've
made a lot of folk happy by sharing these rarities.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 11:05:26 +0100
From: S'pop Team
Subject: New @ S'pop
Dear Members,
Recent feature articles available at S'pop include:
The View From The Front Porch
by Country Paul Payton:
http://www.spectropop.com/FrontPorch/index.htm
The Daughters Of Eve: The Story Of An All-Girl Band
by Debi Pomeroy and Mick Patrick:
http://www.spectropop.com/DaughtersOfEve/index.htm
Barney Kessel Tribute
by Harvey Kubernik:
http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/BKobit.htm
Boy Trouble: Garpax Girls CD Review
by Mick Patrick:
http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/index2004.htm#BoyTrouble
The Story Of Peter Antell, John Linde & The Percells
by John Clemente:
http://www.spectropop.com/percells/index.htm
Barbara Ruskin: An Illustrated UK Discography
by Mick Patrick:
http://www.spectropop.com/BarbaraRuskin/index.htm
Locate each article at their individual URLs or via
the new S'pop home page:
http://www.spectropop.com/
Enjoy and discuss.
The S'pop Team
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