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There are 20 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Reminder: Stu Phillips in London/Germany/Seattle
From: SWP
2. Re: Pitney & Sedaka
From: Tom
3. Everly Brothers - The Ferris Wheel / Lord of the Manor..
From: JJ
4. Re: Quincy Jones & Bill Cosby
From: S.J. Dibai
5. Re: Carole King & Danny Williams -- Whose Little Girl Are You
From: Simon White
6. Re: Silver Throat / Larry Bright & Mojo Workouts
From: S.J. Dibai
7. Carole King's "A Man Without A Dream" demo
From: Mick Patrick
8. Re: Artie Wayne and Moses & the Impossible Ten / Bernard "Pretty" Purdie / Ersel Hickey
From: Artie Wayne
9. Dunhill B sides?
From: Dan Hughes
10. "Telstar" with Words by "Kenny Hollywood" (Geoff Goddard)?
From: Margaret G. Still
11. Re: Syreeta Wright, R.I.P.
From: Louis Wendruck
12. Re: Mercy Mercy Mercy
From: Joe Nelson
13. Krystal Generation
From: Louis Wendruck
14. Ramona King
From: Dave O'Gara
15. Re: "Telstar" with Words by "Kenny Hollywood" (Geoff Goddard)?
From: Roy Clough
16. Re: Top Rank
From: Austin Powell
17. Re: "Telstar" with Words by "Kenny Hollywood" (Geoff Goddard)?
From: Austin Powell
18. Re: Top Rank
From: Michael Fishberg
19. Chicas Ye-Ye in Cha Cha Charming
From: Julio Niño
20. Re: "Telstar" with Words by "Kenny Hollywood" (Geoff Goddard)?
From: Steve Harvey
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:30:03 -0000
From: SWP
Subject: Reminder: Stu Phillips in London/Germany/Seattle
Just a reminder that Stu Phillips will be in London and available
to greet fans on Wedneday, August 18th at the British Academy of
Composers & Songwriters. It will be held from 5:00 to 7:00PM at the
Performing Rights Society at 29-33 Berners Street, London W1. For
more info e-mail: fergal@britishacademy.com
He will also be appearing at the Knight Rider 2004 Convention at
Warner Bros. Movie Land in Bottrop-Kirchhellen in Germany on August
20-22 2004, and at the Northwest Sci Fi Convention in Seattle,
Washington at the Airport Marriott on August 28-29 2004.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:53:45 -0000
From: Tom
Subject: Re: Pitney & Sedaka
I typed the following directly from the hardcover book inside the
"Oh Carol" Neil Sedaka Bear Family Box Set. Hopefully, it will clear
up some issues concerning "It Hurts To Be In Love".
"In May, Helen Miller and Howard Greenfield wrote a song for which
Neil did the demo. Helen recalls that Howie wrote lyrics on the spot,
while she had a hard time coming up with music that quickly. Like
Neil, she preferred writing at home as opposed to the office. The
song was called "It Hurts To Be In Love", and it impressed Neil enough
that he brought the demo to RCA. He felt it was the record he so
badly needed to revive his recording career. The RCA A&R team agreed
that it was a hit, but told Neil that union rules meant that it would
have to be re-recorded at RCA. Once again there was a change in
producers. Joe Rene took over, much to Neil's displeasure. He
recalls Ron Dante ... being on this session, which included his remake
of "It Hurts To Be In Love". The spark of the demo version was
lacking here, Neil felt. The RCA studios were too big and the
arrangement too legit."
"Kirshner took the demo to Gene Pitney, and they erased Neil's vocal,
and sped up the track for Pitney. When Neil was asked about how the
success of the record affected him, he replied, "I was furious - I
could have had my comeback five years earlier!"
A previously unissued recording of the song by Neil (no, not the
oroiginal demo) is included in the box set.
Tom
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:02:00 -0000
From: JJ
Subject: Everly Brothers - The Ferris Wheel / Lord of the Manor..
Just got the ´93 Double Set on Warner Archives; WALK RIGHT BACK - The
Everly Brothers on Warner Bros. 1960-1969.........and what a BLUNDER
they made by not including the AWESOME ´64 45, "The Ferris Wheel"
(which must be rated as one their FINEST MOMENTS!)....they did include
its B-SIDE, "Don´t forget to cry".
I bought this 2 cd set to be able to hear "Lord of the Manor" (which
was discussed on this board a while back).......and i LOVE IT!!
JJ/Sweden
PS Swedish band, M.T. ELSE did a FAB/MAGIC ´68 45 version of "The
Ferris Wheel"...
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:07:08 -0000
From: S.J. Dibai
Subject: Re: Quincy Jones & Bill Cosby
Phil X. Milstein:
> While in a record store last week, I took very quick note of a new
> reissue of the Cosby/Quincy Jones collaboration LP. The album
> centered on "Hikky Burr," the delightful, scat-sung theme song to
> the one TV show of Cosby's that I've liked, the short-lived early
> '70s sitcom "The Cosby Show" (I think was the title) ... and what
> I wonder is if anyone can offer any thoughts on whether the rest of
> the album is any good or not.
Well, the show you're referring to was "The Bill Cosby Show," which
was his follow-up to "I Spy" and ran from '69 to '71, I believe. The
album is called "Qunicy Jones & Bill Cosby: The Original Jam
Sessions." I noticed this album recently in the listening station at
a record store, so I, being curious about it as well, checked out
some of it. What I heard isn't bad. Sort of loose jazz & early funk
jams, not bound to interest me much as I'm more pop and rock
oriented. If you like jazz/funk and can find the CD for a good price,
why not give it a try? I've also seen a CD that has new remixes of
that material, but I haven't heard it.
Speaking of Quincy Jones, isn't it funny how since he became a hero
in black American music, he never talks about producing huge hits for
a certain teenage white girl from New Jersey? Hehehehe....
S.J. Dibai
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 23:11:25 +0100
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: Carole King & Danny Williams -- Whose Little Girl Are You
Don H wrote -
> allmusic.com shows (the song "Whose Little Girl Are You") as being
> written by Carole King and Danny Williams, and included on a comp
> called "Northern Soul Scene". I've never heard of it. Does anyone
> know if it is really co-written by Carole King?
Haven't got a copy of the 45 anymore Don, so can't check the credits
but the record itself is very much in the style of the Drifters UK
hits of the 70's. I doubt it's Carole myself !
Simon
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:21:42 -0000
From: S.J. Dibai
Subject: Re: Silver Throat / Larry Bright & Mojo Workouts
Gary Myers:
> There is story connected with this. You may notice that the LP
> jacket (I don't know about the CD) DOES credit the writer as J.
> Bright, even though, as you say, it is not his song.
I noticed that on the record label (I don't have "Silver Throat" on
CD--I haven't found a CD release of it). I wondered about it myself.
Larry Bright's real name is Julian, hence the credit of "J. Bright,"
but none of this explains why the CD "Hey Look What I Found Vol. 11"
says "Triune" in the composer's credit for the Larry Bright track!
I noticed that there's a Larry Bright compilation CD out there. Gary,
since you seem to know a lot about Bright, would you recommend
it? "Mojo Workout" is a great early rock 'n' roll tune, but I don't
know about a whole CD.
S.J. Dibai
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:50:12 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Carole King's "A Man Without A Dream" demo
Previously:
> ... Carole King demos ... All being well, more will follow.
> Does anyone have any special requests?
Peter Richmond:
> What about that brilliant song "A Man Without A Dream"...
You're in luck. Thanks to Mike Carter, Carole King's original
demo of this magnificent song is available and is now playing
at musica: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
There'll be a rush to listen to the track, no doubt. Yahoo have
imposed new limits, so if you can't get to hear it one day,
please be patient and try again the next.
With any luck, our pal Don H. will furnish us with a complete
list of all known recorded versions.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:55:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Artie Wayne and Moses & the Impossible Ten / Bernard "Pretty" Purdie / Ersel Hickey
How ya'll Doin'?....Just a little catching up to do.
On Artie Waynes' "Moses and the impossible 10" Rock Opera:
No......it's not me. That was an old band singer with the same name,
who passed away about 30 years ago.
on Bernard Purdie:
"Pretty Purdie" was one of my favorite drummers that I used on dozens
of sessions. I don't know if he played on any Beatle records, but he
was always one of the guys producers would use to make a shakey track
solid. Some of his incredible drumroll "turnarounds" would mask the
rythymic mistakes the original drummer might've made. I remember
sitting next to George Martin at the Grammys in 1967 and asked him if
it was true that another drummer was brought in [without Ringos'
knowledge] to add some intricate parts to "Sgt.Pepper"? He just smiled
enigmatically...and changed the subject.
on Ersel Hickey:
When I started hanging out at 1650 B'way in the late 50s' I would
always run into Ersel in the lobby. A few years before, when he wrote
and sang "Bluebirds over the Mountain" [the shortest record in the
history of rock] a lot of people thought he was going to be the "Next
Elvis" but he just wanted to be the first Ersel! Although he never had
another hit as an artist he turned out some really good songs, that
included "Don't let the Rain come down" by the Serendipity singers.
If you want to see the logo, using Ersel, that Steve Harvey was
talking about, check out the front page on my freind Michael Ochs
website http://www.michaelochsarchives.com Most people think it's
Elvis in sillouette....but it's Ersel. RIP
regards, Artie Wayne http://www.artiewayne.com/
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:13:02 -0500
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Dunhill B sides?
Joe sez:
> ...To confuse matters further, "Rhythm of the People" had already
> appeared as the B side of "Woman In My Life"...
Dunhill seemed to be pretty loose with B sides. I bought the 45 of
Eve of Destruction when it was released, and the flip side was Try To
Remember. But on later pressings the B side became What's Exactly the
Matter With Me. I asked Barry about it, but he didn't seem to remember
much. As far as I know, Barry's version of Try To Remember (from the
musical The Fantastiks) is not available anywhere else--just that early
B side.
---Dan
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:50:39 -0400
From: Margaret G. Still
Subject: "Telstar" with Words by "Kenny Hollywood" (Geoff Goddard)?
Could somebody tell me if this demented version of "Telstar" with words
by "Kenny Hollywood" is sung by Geoff Goddard (sounds like the voice
in "Starman" to me) and whether is is produced by Joe Meek?
No production credits are given on this American London Records 45,
record #45-LON9574V.
'A' side is "Magic Star (Telstar)" credited to Meek
'B' side is "The Wonderful Story of Love" credited to Goddard
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 04:44:36 -0000
From: Louis Wendruck
Subject: Re: Syreeta Wright, R.I.P.
I attended Syreeta's funeral at the First AME Church on July 13,
2004 in Los Angeles, California. It was 3 hours long and a truly
moving experience to hear so many people talk about their memories
of her, and comments from Stevie Wonder and Berry Gordy were most
memorable too.
I was so sad and shocked at Syreeta's passing. She was such a lovely
person with such a lovely voice, and she will not be forgotten!
The website tribute to her is really beautiful that Walid Itayim
posted at http://members.tripod.com/~lowando/syreeta.html
and there are many nice comments about her at Soulful Detroit
http://216.127.80.118/~admin27/adf/messages/2/6476.html?1089854932
I hope everyone will take a look at these sites and sign the
guestbook!
Sincerely,
Louis Wendruck in West Hollywood, California
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 02:40:21 -0400
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Re: Mercy Mercy Mercy
Phil X Milstein:
> Now playing at Photos, a full-page ad, from the close-of-the-Sixties
> (i.e., 12-69) issue of Guitar Player magazine, jointly promoting both
> Kustom amps (of Chanute, Kansas) and the group Mercy, of "Love Can
> Make You Happy" fame. As grotesque a period piece as I've ever seen.
The story I heard was the group was a studio act put together for that
one record. (The B side, "Fire Ball", is a surf-fuzz guitar instrumental
influenced by the Pyramids' "Penetration" and might not even be the same
group.) After Jamie/Guyden picked up the single for national
distribution, songwriter Jack Sigler put together a permanent group and
signed with Warner Brothers. Meanwhile, J/G distributed Sundi Records
(which had the actual hit single but nothing else to work with)
completed an album with a makeshift female trio as The Mercy. Methinks
the ad shows the Warner act: I have no idea how that compares to
whomever made the hit version of the song.
Joe Nelson
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 06:56:45 -0000
From: Louis Wendruck
Subject: Krystal Generation
Does anyone have any photos of the group "Krystal Generation" or
any of their singles?
Thanks,
Louis Wendruck
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 14:41:29 -0000
From: Dave O'Gara
Subject: Ramona King
Many years ago I remember seeing a 45 of the song Oriental Garden by
Ramona King. I seem to recall the songwriting credit as "C. King".
Didn't think too much of it at the time, but now with all the chatter
about Carole King's demos, (all delightful, by the way), does anyone
know if Carole was the writer on this single? And as long as I'm
asking, does anyone have any background on Ramona King? Thanks...
Dave 0'
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 14:13:06 -0000
From: Roy Clough
Subject: Re: "Telstar" with Words by "Kenny Hollywood" (Geoff Goddard)?
Margaret G. Still wrote:
> Could somebody tell me if this demented version of "Telstar" with
> words by "Kenny Hollywood" is sung by Geoff Goddard (sounds like
> the voice in "Starman" to me) and whether it is produced by Joe Meek?
When Joe decided to release a vocal version of 'Telstar' he turned
to Kenny Hollywood. Who was Kenny Hollywood? No one knows for
certain though one theory purports that it was a young Marc Bolan.
Whoever it was, the song, 'Magic Star', was a resounding flop.
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 10:21:40 +0100
From: Austin Powell
Subject: Re: Top Rank
Richard wrote:
> ... majority of Top Rank's releases were US originals that included
> Glen Campbell "Turn Around Look At Me" & David Gates "The Happiest
> Man Alive"
Brent:
> I have the Gates song on Mala, # 418. Was this leased from TR, or
> vice versa?
Richard was talking about the UK Top Rank label that licensed Glen's
record from Crest and David's from Mala. The US Top Rank label is best
remembered for Jack Scott, the Fireballs, Dorothy Collins and too many
also-rans for its own good....That said, the UK Top Rank label lasted
for only a little over 18 months before its parent company handed it
over to EMI who finally closed down the label in Britain in April '62
...US Rank folded soon after.
Austin P.
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 15:26:38 +0100
From: Austin Powell
Subject: Re: "Telstar" with Words by "Kenny Hollywood" (Geoff Goddard)?
Margaret:
> Could somebody tell me if this demented version of "Telstar" with
> words by "Kenny Hollywood" is sung by Geoff Goddard (sounds like
> the voice in "Starman" to me) and whether it is produced by Joe Meek?
Amost certainly, Margaret. Joe Meek re-christened Geoff Godddard Anton
Hollywood when they first met at a publisher's office in London. For
sure it is a Joe meek production released here in '62 on Decca F 11546.
Austin P
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 06:11:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Fishberg
Subject: Re: Top Rank
Mark Wirtz wrote:
> Wasn't Freddy "Boom Boom" Cannon on Top Rank?
Hello Mark,
You can see Freddy Cannon and all the rest of the Top Rank (UK) "canon"
at: http://www.btinternet.com/~davmct/singles/top_rank/top_rank01.html
I understand that EMI (Capitol) in L.A. now own all the original US and
UK Rank material (i.e, *excludes* everything they licensed from Norman
Petty, Swan etc.)
The lovingly compiled site referred to above is very interesting.
Best,
Michael Fishberg
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:58:13 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: Chicas Ye-Ye in Cha Cha Charming
Hola Everybody.
I've just read Lex Marsh's great article about the Spanish "Chicas ye-ye".
I liked it very much. In the mid sixties Spain was the land of a thousand
ye ye girls. Most of them recorded one or a few singles.
In my opinion, an important characteristic of Spanish pop in the sixties,
that I think Lex hasn't pointed out, was the hilarity. Spain suffered
such a strong and quick metamorphosis with the death of General Franco,
that for people like me that didn't know that period, most of the lyrics
sound completely absurd and funny. In the sixties the Spanish young
people tried to combine the modernity represented by pop music and
tourism with the rancid traditions of ultra-catholic Spain. The result
was of course rather grotesque, and very amusing when you see it today.
Another important omission in the article are the composers. In my
opinion in the field of the Spanish ye ye girls the more important
composers were Augusto Algueró and the lyricist Antonio Guijarro
responsible for many of the best Spanish songs in the sixties.
And finally, Lex didn't mention one of the more important Spanish ye ye
girls in the sixties: Rocio Durcal. She was the main rival of the perky
and mysterious Marisol in the early sixties and was enormously successful.
I'll play in musica some song by Rocio Durcal one of these days.
Read the article at Cha Cha Charming:
http://www.chachacharming.com/index.php
Chao.
Julio Niño.
PS: I've laughed a lot with the epigraph "Cantautoras" (a female singer
songwriter, Joan Baez style) included in the article, because my bitchy
little sister always uses that term to mean lesbian.
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 08:14:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: "Telstar" with Words by "Kenny Hollywood" (Geoff Goddard)?
Since Joe Meek wrote "Telestar" he would be credited
for it even if the song is renamed. When you add
lyrics to an instrumental you sometimes get credit.
I remember seeing a Petula Clark record with her
recording of some Beach Boy tunes. It said Usher,
Wilson and then had two French names. The guys who had
translated the tune into French for Petula.
"American Patrol" by Glenn Miller had lyrics added to
it when the Chico Marx (yep, same one) recorded their
version.
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