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There are 16 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: U.S.A Records (Chicago)
From: James Holvay
2. Re: Myddle Class
From: Mick Patrick
3. "Midnight Special" / Buddy Saltzman
From: Niels
4. Re: U.S.A Records (Chicago)
From: Gary Myers
5. Alfie
From: Frank Murphy
6. The New Rascals, Turtles, Grass Roots
From: David Coyle
7. Re: The Candymen
From: Phil X Milstein
8. Re: Candymen
From: Al Kooper
9. How About Dee Dee's "You're No Good"?
From: Mark Hill
10. need song ID from French Scopitone
From: thirteen_eagle
11. Al Kooper via Gary Criss to musica
From: Joe Nelson
12. Re: U.S.A Records (Chicago)
From: Billy G. Spradlin
13. Re: The Candymen / Allman Joys
From: Eddy
14. Re: The Candymen / Allman Joys
From: Gary Myers
15. Bob Gallo
From: Niels Chr Junker-Poulsen
16. NY studio muscicans: Don(ald) Thomas
From: Niels Chr Junker-Poulsen
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:10:43 -0700
From: James Holvay
Subject: Re: U.S.A Records (Chicago)
Billy:
> I also found a 45 by Mike Tomasetti called "Come See What I Got"
> (USA 856) - written Tomasetti/Hovay. Anyone from the Chicago area
> know anything about this 45? Local hit or not?
Bill,
That was a song that I co-wrote and produced back in 1964/65.
It was not a hit locally or otherwise but it is considered a
very collectable 45 in Northern Soul circles. Mike T. went on
to become one of the singers in a group called The Neighborhood.
They had a hit covering the Joni Mitchell song "Big Yellow Taxi".
James Holvay
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:49:55 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Myddle Class
Don H:
> Goffin/King-penned Myddle Class track playing at Musica. I got
> this song on a rare demo disc. There were no liner notes, just
> a list of song titles without artists. Most of them were Carole
> King, but I have to assume this one was the Myddle Class.
> Listen for yourself.
Cool track, thanks. From a rare demo disc, you say? A whole LP
full? Mostly Carole King? So exactly what's on it and where can
I obtain one? Gagging to know more.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:53:09 -0000
From: Niels
Subject: "Midnight Special" / Buddy Saltzman
Al Kooper mentions that he thinks Buddy Saltzman played the drums
on Paul Evans' "Midnight Special". I think Buddy Saltzman once said
himself (can't remember where though) that he didn't get started
in a serious sense as a studio musician 'till '61, '62 or even '63.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Niels
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 10:19:38 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: U.S.A Records (Chicago)
Billy G. Spradlin:
> ... found a 45 by Mike Tomasetti called "Come See What I Got"
> (USA 856) - written Tomasetti/Hovay. Anyone from the Chicago
> area know anything about this 45? Local hit or not?
I have a bit of info pertaining to Tomasetti and, as you probably
know, Jim Holvay (rather than "Hovay") is a member in here.
Because several Wisconsin acts had releases on USA (which actually
began in Milwaukee), I have many tidbits of USA info. I'll see what
I have for Tomasetti.
gem
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 20:16:08 +0000
From: Frank Murphy
Subject: Alfie
previously:
> Cher's entire version plays at the end scene when
> Alfie's at the river."
Substitute "Cilla's" for the original UK cinema release.
The soundtrack was of course by Sonny Rollins.
FrankM
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:22:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Coyle
Subject: The New Rascals, Turtles, Grass Roots
I'm going to see the Turtles, the Grass Roots and the
"New Rascals" at the Ohio State Fair this week. I know
what to expect from the Turtles and the Grass Roots
having seen both groups multiple times, but know
little about the New Rascals. I've learned from the
web that the New Rascals only contain Dino Dannelli
and Gene Cornish from the original group. There is no
actual New Rascals website I can find to see anything
else about the group.
Has anyone seen the New Rascals? What do they do for a
lead singer, considering the two best known voices of
the Rascals are not there?
I did see some references to Wally Bryson being in the
New Rascals at some point, but I can't confirm that he
is still touring with them. That would definitely be
the highlight for me, considering he was a founding
member of two of my favorite '60s and '70s groups, the
Choir and the Raspberries. On top of that Dannelli,
Cornish and Bryson were all members of Fotomaker, the
group that recorded "Where Have You Been All My Life?"
(not the Arthur Alexander song) in 1978, a song that
had to probably be playing at every prom and wedding
in the country when it was out, and hopefully will be
played at my wedding.
Are Flo and Eddie still putting on a good show? The
times I saw them I noticed that music really kind of
took a back seat to retro-hippie comedy...sort of like
Flo and Eddie were a less-zonked Cheech and Chong. I
was talking about this upcoming show with a friend who
is going with us, when my fiancee called in from the
kitchen, "The Turtles are going to be there, right? I
like the Turtles..."
I'm 32 and I've always loved this kind of music for
some reason, but for my 27-year-old fiancee, who has
only known me for two years, to be as excited as I am
to see a '60s group in concert is inspiring to me.
David
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 18:15:08 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: The Candymen
Wasn't The Candymen the name of Roy Orbison's backing group?
If so, was it a different Candymen than the one that turned
into ARS? Also, why am I confusing The Candymen with the group
that became The Allman Brothers? Maybe they had a candy-related
name, too, such as Allman Joy or something like that.
This is all starting to make me hungry for a snack.
Dig,
--Phil M.
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 18:58:00 EDT
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Re: Candymen
Bob Rashkow:
> "Georgia Pines" by The Candymen
Austin:
> I loved that record and knew a couple of members of the group.
> I think Rodney Justo was the singer, but that's been a good
> while ago. He used to hang out with B.J. Thomas and me on the
> road in the early to mid 70s. Rodney was 'odd' but a lot of fun.
They evolved into the Atlanta Rhythym Section - same drummer,
bassist and keyboardist. Rodney Justo lasted one album in that
configuration.
Al Kooper
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 19:00:11 -0400
From: Mark Hill
Subject: How About Dee Dee's "You're No Good"?
Mick:
> This is in Musica: Dee Dee Warwick - Don't Call Me Anymore
> (Jubilee 5459) ....From 1963, the A-side of "You're No Good",
written by Clint Ballard and Les Ledo, arranged and conducted
by Garry Sherman, a Leiber and Stoller Production.
How about the A side be placed in Musica, too???? The recent
post about this was the first I had heard that there were so
many other versions. Other than Rondstadt and Betty Everett.
The Swinging Blue Jeans...??? Wow! Learning every day...
"Dr. Mark" Hill * The Doctor Of Pop Culture /*/
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 00:47:39 -0000
From: thirteen_eagle
Subject: need song ID from French Scopitone
In the late seventies I saw sketch on Saturday Night Live called
"Bad Cinema" in which they showed what I believe to be a Scopitone
in French with a catchy song possibly titled "Allez, Gigi" - Male
vocal, film showed several guys dancing around some girl riding
in a horse-drawn carriage. Title? Artist? Year? Help?
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:13:53 -0400
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Al Kooper via Gary Criss to musica
Now playing @ musica: "Little Joe" by Gary Criss. An obscure
Diamond B-side written by Al Kooper, Irving Levine and Bob Brass
[spelled correctly on the label but I couldn't resist the "This
Diamond Ring" in-joke - sorry :-)]. Thanks to Tom Diehl for this,
undoubtedly more rare Diamond sides are on the way.
Enjoy,
Joe Nelson
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 06:12:41 -0000
From: Billy G. Spradlin
Subject: Re: U.S.A Records (Chicago)
Me:
> ... found a 45 by Mike Tomasetti called "Come See What I Got"
> (USA 856) - written Tomasetti/Hovay. Anyone from the Chicago
> area know anything about this 45? Local hit or not?
Gary Myers:
> I have a bit of info pertaining to Tomasetti and, as you probably
> know, Jim Holvay (rather than "Hovay") is a member in here.
Thanks - my 45 has someone's pen marks scribbles on it, making it
hard to see who wrote it. Didn't Jim Holvay write the Buckinghams'
hits "Kind of A Drag" and "Don't You Care?". Anyway it's a fine piece
of Chicago pop - very much inspired by Major Lance/Curtis Mayfield's
"Monkey Time". I can hear why the Northern Soul croud like this one.
Billy
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 08:23:06 +0200
From: Eddy
Subject: Re: The Candymen / Allman Joys
Phil X Milstein:
> Wasn't The Candymen the name of Roy Orbison's backing group?
> If so, was it a different Candymen than the one that turned
> into Atlanta Rhythm Section? Also, why am I confusing The
> Candymen with the group that became The Allman Brothers? Maybe
> they had a candy-related name, too, such as Allman Joy or
> something like that.
Totally different band backing Orbison! Here's a list of the people
that at one point or another were members of Orbison's Candy Men:
Dewey Martin - drums, Robert Nix - drums, Bobby Goldsboro - guitar,
Barry Booth - piano, band director, Paul Garrison - drums, Billy
Sandford - lead guitar, Billy Gilmore - bass and John R. Atkins -
guitar.
Yes, The Allman Joys was an earlier incarnation of the Brothers. I
believe they only had Spoonful (c/w You deserve each other) released
as a single during their lifespan, but with the success of the
Brothers they had some unreleased recordings put on an LP by Dial in
1973.
STOP PRESS on Orbison & the Candy Men:
Although as far as I can see it is not the same band, apparently two
members actually toured with Orbison as well. So this may need a
little more investigation.
Eddy
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:47:17 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: The Candymen / Allman Joys
Phil X Milstein:
> ...why am I confusing The Candymen with the group that became The
> Allman Brothers? Maybe they had a candy-related name, too, such
> as Allman Joy or something like that.
Almost - Allman Joys. And did I ever tell you that the 2nd teen band
I played in, in Florida, also included Dickie Betts?
gem
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 10:11:50 +0200
From: Niels Chr Junker-Poulsen
Subject: Bob Gallo
Browsing thru old messages on the list, I realise that Bob Gallo has
been brought up before, and it seems like not much is known about him.
He did own the TalentMasters studio in the sixties with his partner
Bob Harvey (a manager). The address was at 126 West 42nd St. A lot of
great records have been recorded in this studio. The Who and a lot of
r'n'b stuff. Gallo and Harvey did sell the studio to Atlantic Records
in 1966 or at the beginning of 1967 ... and I'd sure like to know more
about any recollections about this studio.
Niels.
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 10:18:41 +0200
From: Niels Chr Junker-Poulsen
Subject: NY studio muscicans: Don(ald) Thomas
I just can't seem to find any info on Don(ald) Thomas. He was a guitar
player and is to be heard on sessions in New York in the mid-sixties.
But also with The Monkees, I believe.
Anybody got any info on Mr. Thomas? Sessions he did participate in.
Where did he come from? His whereabouts since then? etc.
Niels.
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