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There are 22 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Mes Annés 60 / French Ye Ye.
From: Julio Niño
2. Re: Ringo records - one more question
From: Brent Cash
3. Re: The Epic Splendor
From: Joe Nelson
4. Re: Peppermint Rainbow
From: Joe Nelson
5. Re: Peppermint Trolley / Peppermint Rainbow
From: Patrick Rands
6. Re: The Myddle Class
From: Don H.
7. Re: The Candymen
From: Bob Rashkow
8. Re: The Candymen
From: superoldies
9. Re: P.J.Proby / Peter James
From: Phil X Milstein
10. French Ye-Ye
From: Mick Patrick
11. Re: What's It All About . . . ?
From: Keith Beach
12. Re: Ringo records - one more question
From: Mikey
13. You're No Good
From: Frank Murphy
14. Re: What's It All About . . . Dee Dee Warwick
From: Mick Patrick
15. Re: Virginia Vee
From: Frank
16. Re: French Ye-Ye
From: Frank
17. Re: The Candymen
From: Austin Roberts
18. Re: French Ye-Ye
From: Frank
19. U.S.A Records (Chicago)
From: Billy G. Spradlin
20. Re: French Ye-Ye
From: Eddy
21. Re: What's It All About . . . ?
From: Rob
22. Re: electric sitar
From: Michael Coxe
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:25:54 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: Mes Annés 60 / French Ye Ye.
Hola Everybody.
Tom K. wrote:
> ...And just out of interest, does anyone know of any books or
> substantial magazine articles written about the French ye-ye
> and pop scene of the 1960s? I'm strongly considering writing
> one, and would like some pointers on research or indicators of
> whether anyone would be interested...
Hola Tom, there is a beautiful and very interesting book by Jean
Marie Perrier, titled "Mes Annés 60". Jean Marie was the official
photographer of "Salut Les Copains", a sixties pop TV program in
France, and his pictures help to configurate aesthetically the style
of French pop. The book contains pictures of the main sixties French
singers, including Françoise Hardy, Sylvie Vartan, Sheila, France
Gall, Polnareff, and many others. The book also includes the mythical
picture with all the stars of Salut Les Copains together in front of
a wall, that pic is in my opinion the perfect ilustration of French
pop in the early sixties.
If you don´t already know it, I reccommend it to you, I don´t have
the book at hand right know but I think it was published by
Filipacchi editions.
Chao.
Julio Niño.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:00:26 -0000
From: Brent Cash
Subject: Re: Ringo records - one more question
Mikey:
> Has anyone mentioned The Standells "Do The Ringo"??
Andres Jurak wrote:
> Yes Mikey, I have this show on DVD. It is Episode # 26 to be exact,
Hi Mikey and Andres,
According to Jeff Jarema who interviewed Larry Tamblyn in "Here 'Tis"
#7,"Do The Ringo" is an otherwise unrecorded Standells song... Larry
also recalls the reason for them having done "I Want to Hold Your
Hand" was that they (the show) may have had some tie to the song's
publishing as they insisted that they do it/the group didn't want to/
thought it was stupid, but they were paying them great, so they did
it. He goes on to say that their actual first TV appearance was on
"The Bing Crosby Show", where Bing did "Kansas City" with them.
Peace on Earth,can it be? They've got some crazy little women there
and I'm gonna get me one...
Best to all,
Brent Cash
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:17:00 -0400
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Re: The Epic Splendor
Bob Rashkow:
> Hot Biscuit Disc Company brought us The Epic Splendor, which I
> haven't heard since December 1967...
Since we're on the subject and there's space, I've posted the B side
of "It Could Be Wonderful" to Musica, "She's High On Life". One
wonders why Capitol is sitting on these tapes - there is interest in
the tracks.
Joe Nelson
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:42:11 -0400
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Re: Peppermint Rainbow
Bob Rashkow:
> And could you play "Georgia Pines" by The Candymen (I've never
> heard it! I've got the Candy Power album, which is pretty cool
> but I've never heard the one song they made the Top 10 in Atlanta
> with!) to musica?
I have both the mono and stereo mixes of this, but would have to
resample the stereo to make it fit. Give me a few minutes and I'll
give it a shot.
Joe Nelson
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:35:42 -0000
From: Patrick Rands
Subject: Re: Peppermint Trolley / Peppermint Rainbow
Both of these groups are aching for cd reissues of their respective
catalogs.
The Peppermint Rainbow had a song on the 2 cd set Sunshine Pop
Collection - but it's worth noting that it was a completely different
mix of Will You Be Staying After Sunday than the mix that appeared on
the original lp. In fact, the lp version is much superior and I had
wondered about that. Did the single mix appear on the Sunshine Pop
Collection or could it have been a brand new mix, I wonder?
:Patrick
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:42:17 -0000
From: Don H.
Subject: Re: The Myddle Class
Me:
> Goffin/King-penned Myddle Class track playing at Musica. I got
> this song on a rare demo disc. There were no liner notes, just a
> list of song titles without artists. Most of them were Carole
> King, but I have to assume this one was the Myddle Class. Listen
> for yourself.
Kevin Kern:
> The vocals are surely them, and the organ/guitar instrumentation
> sounds just like "Lovin' Season" or "Wind Chime Laughter". Don,
> if you keep digging up new Myddle Class songs, we'll have to ask
> you to compile a box set for Rhino or something. Thanks for the
> song...
I actually live in NJ, not far from the old stomping grounds of the
Myddle Class. I think the Critters hailed from the same area. You
may think I have some connection, but I was just a toddler when the
Myddle Class made these songs. I've never met any of them. Who
knows, I may just dig up another song soon.
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:58:49 EDT
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: The Candymen
Austin R: you're right, Justo sang lead on most of the Candymen's
songs. One of their better-known evolutions was into the Atlanta
Rhythm Section, who had some good stuff out in the post-S'pop 7Ts
......Bobster
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:21:20 -0000
From: superoldies
Subject: Re: The Candymen
Rodney is in Florida alive & well, Dean Daughtry is with The Atlanta
Rhythm Section, and Robert Nix is doing Nashville session drumming.
Bassist Bill Gilmore (later of Classics IV) & guitarist John Rainey
Adkins are both deceased. John, along with his brother & Rodney + 2
others formed "Beaverteeth" and released 2 LPS + their own 45
version of Georgia Pines.
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:07:31 +0000
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: P.J.Proby / Peter James
Austin Powell wrote:
> There was some discussion recently over whether P.J. Proby ever
> recorded as Peter James....P.J. is now managed by a guy on the
> Welsh Coast....I asked him to check out the rumour - he e-mails
> back to say categorically P.J. Proby never did record as Peter James.
At the risk of flogging a newly-dead horse, is it possible he recorded
under that name without realizing it? Given all the sessions he
apparently cut in his career, it seems to me some of them may have taken
on new and mysterious lives after he was through with them.
Just a thot,
--Phil M.
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:58:13 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: French Ye-Ye
Tom K:
> And just out of interest, does anyone know of any books or
> substantial magazine articles written about the French ye-ye
> and pop scene of the 1960s? I'm strongly considering writing
> one, and would like some pointers on research or indicators
> of whether anyone would be interested.
First, I'd recommend you have a nose around the tres chic Cha
Cha Charming website:
http://www.chachacharming.com/index.php
Wherein you'll discover feature articles on a number of French
Ye-Ye Girls, including Sylvie Vartan:
http://www.chachacharming.com/article.php?id=7
Gillian Hills:
http://www.chachacharming.com/article.php?id=3
and Chantal Kelly:
http://www.chachacharming.com/article.php?id=13
If hungry for more, you should perhaps make your next port of
call The Ye-Ye Girls Website:
http://members.tripod.com/ye_ye_girls/home.html
On a day trip to Brighton a few years ago, I visited a shop
called A Lot Of Gall, specialists in all things French, from
whom I shelled out for L'Encyclopedie De La Chanson Francaise,
published by Hors Collections in 1997. The book's in French,
and was a bit pricey, but who cares.
Then, of course, there's Jukebox magazine, the French equivalent
of the UK's Record Collector.
Found yourself a producer yet, Tom?
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:00:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Keith Beach
Subject: Re: What's It All About . . . ?
I am ready to be shot-down on this one, but...I thought that the song
'Alfie' did not appear on the film or soundtrack of 'Alfie'. The
various versions were used to 'promote' the movie in different regions,
but, the song was recorded and issued after the film's release and
technically has no connection with the movie. A bit like 'Liberty
Valance'.
Keith Beach
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:03:55 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Ringo records - one more question
Brent, thank you very much for the Standells info on "Do The
Ringo."
This is bad news, as it means we will, in all probability,
never have any other tape but that of the Munsters show of
this song, and Im sure the master tapes of THAT are long gone.
Too bad, its a cool song. I imagine they never did this song
live.
Mikey
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:16:50 +0000
From: Frank Murphy
Subject: You're No Good
Peter:
> Please don't forget Barbara West's sublime version on
> Ronn Records out of Louisiana.
Thanks Peter,
I shall look out for it, but I'm sure those pesky northern
soul fans have bought them all. I have just checked eBay and
found Barbara West - Congratulations Baby / Give Me Back the
Man I Love (Ronn 32) classified as northern soul/crossover.
I have put a watch on the bidding.
FrankM
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:09:26 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: What's It All About . . . Dee Dee Warwick
David Bell:
>> ... Dee Dee Warwick ... She's a great undervalued figure on the
>> soul scene...
Frank Murphy:
> Two years ago I discovered her original version of You're No Good
> to add to my Betty Everett, Swinging Blue Jeans and Linda Ronstadt
> copies...
Even big sister Dionne says that Dee Dee was the singer in the
family. "You're No Good" is out on CD, but the other side isn't, as far
as I know. To me, it's the superior deck, and, judging by the matrix
number, it was actually the A-side. Hop over to musica and hear it:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Dee Dee Warwick "Don't Call Me Any More" (Jubilee 5459, 1963) Written
by Clint Ballard and Les Ledo, arranged and conducted by Garry
Sherman, a Leiber and Stoller Production.
In recent times, a couple of acetates have come to light, scanty
evidence of Dee Dee's career as one of the top demo singers on the
New York scene in the mid-'60s. Does anyone out there have such
things? I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 07:42:16 +0200
From: Frank
Subject: Re: Virginia Vee
Tom K:
> ... while scouring a shop near the Sorbonne I took a chance on an
> interesting-looking disc, namely this 1969 Polydor France release:
> Virginia Vee - "I Can't See Nobody" c/w a song called "Boum Boum
> Boum". The A-side is written by B. M. and R. Gibb (those ones,
> right?) and the B-side, which incidentally is sung in French, is
> by J.C. Olivier and R. Valade. No idea who those are, but as far
> as I can tell with my high-school French, it was produced by Claude
> Ebrard for the Robert Stigwood Organization France ...
Claude Ebrard was a French A & R man who initiated quiet a few records
in the 60's and 70's. Virginia Vee was mildly successful in France for
a while and cut several records over here. At one point the Stigwood
Organization had an office in Paris and wanted to start producing
"local" productions. Virginia Vee was certainly one of those. If I'm
not mistaken Jean-Claude Olivier was a French musician, though I'm not
100% sure. I remember the name but can't quite place him.
Frank
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 07:36:32 +0200
From: Frank
Subject: Re: French Ye-Ye
Tom K. wrote:
> ...And just out of interest, does anyone know of any books or
> substantial magazine articles written about the French ye-ye
> and pop scene of the 1960s? I'm strongly considering writing
> one, and would like some pointers on research or indicators of
> whether anyone would be interested...
Some time in the late 60s I wrote a huge encyclopedia called "Special
Pop" which covered not only French but also British and US pop music.
There were bios for all the major artists. Don't know if you can find
it in your neck of the wood..
Frank
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:18:19 EDT
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: The Candymen
Bob Rashkow:
> Austin R: you're right, Justo sang lead on most of the Candymen's
> songs. One of their better-known evolutions was into the Atlanta
> Rhythm Section, who had some good stuff out in the post-S'pop 7Ts
Thanx Bobster, I thought that was Rodney with the Candymen and somehow
I'd forgotten he was with Atlanta Rhythm Section; great group! Only
had one cut with them over the years; it was when Chips Moman was
producing them. Thanx again for the info on Justo.
superoldies writes:
> Rodney is in Florida alive & well, Dean Daughtry is with The Atlanta
> Rhythm Section, and Robert Nix is doing Nashville session drumming.
Thanks for the info about Rodney and the others. I saw Nix here in
Nashville not too long aga at 50th. birthday party for Freddy Weller.
Nix is a trip!
Austin R.
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 07:45:24 +0200
From: Frank
Subject: Re: French Ye-Ye
Tom K:
> And just out of interest, does anyone know of any books or
> substantial magazine articles written about the French ye-ye
> and pop scene of the 1960s? I'm strongly considering writing
> one, and would like some pointers on research or indicators
> of whether anyone would be interested.
Also, there's a TV series running now in France about the "wonderful"
60's and 70's which covers most of the major artists from these
periods. Some interviews too.
And speaking of French Ye-Ye, you might be interested to learn that
France Gall will be releasing a new single early next year. It's a
track that was recently discovered and was recorded in the 80's.
Frank
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 04:43:03 -0000
From: Billy G. Spradlin
Subject: U.S.A Records (Chicago)
I was visiting in Wichita KS last week, it's one of my favorite
cities to visit the thrift stores. I have been able to find some gems
lurking in the bins with the rest of the Perry Como, Herb Alpert and
Ray Coniff albums.
I picked up a mint mono white label promo copy of the Eighth Day's
album on Kapp, and a worn but playable copy of the Jaynettes "Sally
Go Round The Roses" LP on Tuff.
I also found a 45 by Mike Tomasetti called "Come See What I Got" (USA
856) - written Tomasetti/Hovay. Anyone from the Chicago area know
anything about this 45? Local hit or not? Rare Soul Records is
selling a copy for 75 Pounds - mine cost me 45 cents..
http://www.raresoul.co.uk/list126.htm
Billy G. Spradlin
http://listen.to/jangleradio
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 08:18:46 +0200
From: Eddy
Subject: Re: French Ye-Ye
Julio Niño;
> ... Jean Marie was the official photographer of "Salut Les Copains",
> a sixties pop TV program in France, and his pictures help to
> configurate aesthetically the style of French pop.
Don't forget that Salut Les Copains was also, and almost of equal
importance, a French magazine, covering almost exclusively French
artists. And that's basically the place where Perrier's photos wound
up.
Eddy
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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 03:30:26 -0000
From: Rob
Subject: Re: What's It All About . . . ?
Keith Beach wrote:
> I am ready to be shot-down on this one, but...I thought that the
> song 'Alfie' did not appear on the film or soundtrack of 'Alfie'.
> The various versions were used to 'promote' the movie in different
> regions, but, the song was recorded and issued after the film's
> release and technically has no connection with the movie. A bit
> like 'Liberty Valance'.
The Cher 45 says "From the Soundtrack of the Paramount Motion Picture
ALFIE". And anytime I've seen the film, Cher's entire version plays
at the end scene when Alfie's at the river. There's even flashes (a
picture) of Sonny&Cher during the credits saying title song sung by
Cher-produced by Sonny. At circuitcity.com you can view the trailer
which plays part of Cher's version at the end.
Rob
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Message: 22
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:24:44 -0700
From: Michael Coxe
Subject: Re: electric sitar
Phil X Milstein wrote:
> Finally, I've long toyed with the idea of compiling an album of songs
> featuring (or including anywhere, for that matter) electric sitar, but
> always back off due to the fact that I never bothered to list all the
> ones I've heard over the years,
At one time Soulseek was rife with compilations of electric sitar music,
including the 8+ volume Electric Psychedelic Sitar Headswirlers. I only
sampled a few and moved on. It seems to have been a brief but intense
international phenomena. A google turned up a webpage with track listings:
www.turnmeondeadman.net/ADM/GPCSeries/ElectricPsychedelicSitarHeadswirlers.html
Michael
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