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There are 17 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Larry Bright article / Crow / Bony Maronie version
From: Gary Myers
2. Dave Davies news
From: Country Paul
3. Re: The Alan Bown Set - "Gonna Fix You Good"
From: Howard Earnshaw
4. Re: You're No Good
From: Bill George
5. Four J's inquiry
From: Sheila Burgel
6. Re: Checkmates Ltd. CD release
From: Paul Urbahns
7. Re: This weekend is Cincinnati area Oldies Fest
From: Karen Andrew
8. Hunter Hancock
From: Phil X Milstein
9. Re: S'pop Remembers / Spanish Ye-Ye / new to musica
From: Country Paul
10. Re: Mark Radice duo; 1650 vs. 1619
From: Country Paul
11. The Gang That Dig Doo-Lang
From: Chris King
12. Re: Brian Wilson on Larry King
From: ModGirl
13. Re: Crow
From: Clark Besch
14. Dan Fogelberg to Musica
From: Clark Besch
15. Re: Checkmates Ltd. CD release
From: Frank
16. Re: Little Joe Cook
From: Phil X Milstein
17. Re: Four J's inquiry
From: Mick Patrick
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:59:03 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Larry Bright article / Crow / Bony Maronie version
Country Paul asked:
> Which issue of Goldmine from 1990?
#322, 11/27/92 ("around" 1990 ).
Mac Joseph wrote:
> This is just to thank everyone for the response I got on my
> question about Crow ...
Here's a little more. Tom Tourville's book "Minnesota Rocked -- The
1960s" lists 9 releases on Amaret (including one alternate B-side)
and one on Peak (1983).
Norm D. wrote:
> ... a version of "Bony Maronie" in the style of The Rooftop Singers ...
Probably the Applachians on ABC-Para., charted up to #62 in late spring
of '63.
gem
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:33:10 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Dave Davies news
Not the kind of entertainment news one wants to get; this comes from the
Associated Press today (August 11, 2004):
Kinks Guitarist Recovering From Stroke
LONDON - Dave Davies, one of the founding members of British rock group
The Kinks, has been partially paralyzed by a stroke he suffered in June....
Spokesman Alan Robinson said Davies, 57, would have to spend at least
another month in hospital, but that doctors were confident that with
physiotherapy he would recover.
"He is paralyzed on the right hand side of his body but he retains some
feeling and he can still hold a guitar plectrum," Robinson said Monday.
"These small things mean a hell of a lot. They're small but very important."
Davies, who founded The Kinks in the early 1960s with his brother Ray,
collapsed June 30 while promoting his new solo album, "Bug."
One of the best of the guitar-driven bands of the 1960s "British Invasion,"
The Kinks had a string of hits including "You Really Got Me," "All Day and
All of the Night," "Dedicated Follower of Fashion" and "Lola."
Ray Davies, 59, the band's chief singer and songwriter, was shot in the leg
in by a thief who snatched his girlfriend's bag as the pair walked in New
Orleans on Jan. 4.
Country Paul
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:21:07 EDT
From: Howard Earnshaw
Subject: Re: The Alan Bown Set - "Gonna Fix You Good"
Pres wrote:
> The Alan Bown Set "Gonna Fix You Good") ...
> So, I know it was written by Teddy Randazzo and done by Little
> Anthony but who produced the Alan Bown Set's version, when
> was it released, and - pushing my luck - what label and label number.
I've been up into the (soul) loft and found the record to check the details
for you. The Alan Bown Set -- Gonna Fix You Good (Every Time You're Bad)
was released in the UK on Pye Records (label number 7N 17256) in 1967
and writing credits Randazzo & Pike (no production credits). Flip is titled
I Really Care, and was written by Bown & Bannister.
Hope this helps you. All the best,
Howard
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:02:31 EDT
From: Bill George
Subject: Re: You're No Good
Frank wrote, re Dee Dee Warwick:
> Two years I discovered her original version of You're No Good
> to add to my Betty Everett, Swinging Blue Jeans and Linda
> Ronstadt copies. It's brilliant.
Peter Lerner wrote:
> But please don't forget Barbara West's sublime version on
> Ronn Records, out of Louisiana.
And now you can add to the list Wilson Phillips, from their new disc of
covers, "California." Incidentally, the album also includes the new version
of "Go Your Own Way" that someone was commenting about.
Bill ... who had almost caught up on digests and then went out of town
and is very behind again.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 19:14:26 -0400
From: Sheila Burgel
Subject: Four J's inquiry
Hello Spectropoppers:
Seems there were a few groups calling themselves the Four J's back in
the day, and I'm curious about the Four J's that released "Will You Be My
Love" / "Nursery" on 4 J Records in 1963. They sound like an East Coast
doo-wop girl group, but something tells me I could be wrong.
Are they girls or boys or both?
Please help!
Thanks,
Sheila
http://www.chachacharming.com
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 21:18:01 EDT
From: Paul Urbahns
Subject: Re: Checkmates Ltd. CD release
David Bell wrote:
> I've just come across a piece of news on the Hip-O site
> on their (somewhat expensive) new Checkmates Ltd. CD.
At that price I wish they had included Lazy Susan and Baby Don't You
Get Crazy, instead of just the straight LP. I have two copies of the album
already.
Paul Urbahns
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:41:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Karen Andrew
Subject: Re: This weekend is Cincinnati area Oldies Fest
The festival is this upcoming weekend and the Turtles and New Rascals
are the late afternoon on Sunday, Aug. 15. My apologies to anyone who
cares!
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:25:33 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Hunter Hancock
>From Eric Predoehl at http://www.louielouie.net:
Hunter Hancock, the legendary disc jockey regarded as the first in the
western United States to spin rhythm and blues records and among the
first to broadcast rock 'n' roll, has died. He was 88.
Hancock, a top Los Angeles DJ of the mid-20th century, died Aug. 4 of
natural causes at a retirement complex in Claremont, said his daughter,
Rosemary Davis.
Known on the air as "Ol' H.H.," Hancock, in his high-pitched, frantic,
exaggerated voice, was heard over local airwaves from 1943 to 1968,
hosting the Sunday show "Harlem Holiday" on KFVD-AM (later KPOP-AM);
the daily "Harlematinee"; the KGFJ-AM nightly Top 20 "Huntin' With
Hunter"; and the KGER-AM Sunday gospel show "Songs of Soul and Spirit."
In the LOUIE LOUIE universe, Hunter Hancock was the very disc jockey to
ever play LOUIE LOUIE. Hunter Hancock was a big ally for rhythm and
blues in Los Angeles, and can go down in history as the very first human
being to ever broadcast Richard Berry's original composition over the
airwaves. I was very fortunate that I was able to interview him for
the MEANING OF LOUIE documentary at a DooWop show in Long Beach.
The Doo Wop Society of Southern California put on a big show that honored
the legacy of H.H., and I can assure you there was a lot of love for
that guy that night. Not a dry eye in the house.
Just a few weeks ago, I had the opportunity to interview Boston DJ
Arnie Ginsburg, who was responsible for breaking the Kingsmen's version
of LOUIE LOUIE to a national audience. Both Hancock and Ginsburg were
part of golden era of radio where colorful disc jockeys reigned supreme
on the AM radio waves. Both men were also part of the superb "CRUSIN"
LP series that provided a nice replication of the types of radio shows
one could heard during 1950s-1960s.
Hunter Hancock will be missed. You can read more about his career by
logging onto:
http://www.hunterhancock.org/
http://www.electricearl.com/dws/hunter.html
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 00:23:11 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Re: S'pop Remembers / Spanish Ye-Ye / new to musica
The occasions for them are sad, but the Syretta, Ersel Hickey and Arthur
Crier bios are great. Thanks to all who did the "heavy lifting" to get them
posted.
It's also fascinating to read the story in Cha Cha Charming
( http://www.chachacharming.com ) about the Spanish "ye-ye" scene of
the 60s. It was a whole "alternate universe" for us Americans; fascinating.
Thank you, Sheila -- and welcome back to the USA.
FYI, I don't know if it's been posted yet, but I've played the last Front
Porch 45 to musica, their version of the Robin [Jackie] Ward classic
"Wonderful Summer." It seemed appropriate as summer seems to be
winding down, at least here in the NE US, and autumn seriousness is
starting early. It's a really sweet version of the song, but as mentioned
in their interview, not the direction the band wanted to take. But I think
you'll find it worth a listen.
There's one more unreleased demo by the group that hasn't been posted
to musica. If any of you want to hear it, or you missed any of their other
songs, please contact me offlist.
Country Paul
(now a mere 2 weeks behind)
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:39:41 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Re: Mark Radice duo; 1650 vs. 1619
Mark Radice wrote:
> ... Wondering [about] naming a duo that I'm working with that does
> covers and originals.
Not knowing anything about their music (I'd usually try to find something
lyrically interesting in their first potential hit song, or something using
or playing with their names), how 'bout something like "Two for the Show"?
Or if they/you have a big sound, "Two Many"? We've previously discused here
"Two Guys From Boston." Something similar may have cachet if the town they'
re from does. (Somehow, "Two Guys From Keokuk" or "Two Guys From West
Pleasantville" doesn't quite make it!)
Frank Uhle wrote, re: 1650 Broadway:
> The entrance-way was suitably grungy for a no-name building,
> I wish I could have gone exploring but the young guy at the
> desk seemed not to want me to do so.
I'm very grateful that there was no doorman when I used to run around 1650
when I was in college radio, introducing our station to people on whose
doors I knocked, who werekind enough to let me in and take me seriously.
I've discussed this before, as much as my hazy memory will let me; one of
the consistantly nicest and most supportive was Lloyd Price, but I know I
got into Aldon Music and Scepter at least a couple of times, met Neil Bogart
in his office, and Little Joe Cook ["Peanuts," Little Joe & The Thrillers] on
the fire stairs as I was running from floor to floor collecting promo copies
for WBRU. I'm with Al K on this one -- most of the coolest indie records
had 1650 Broadway as an address, although 1619 (Brill) was cool, too (Coed,
Motown's NY office, TM and a bunch more). And the halls of 1650 were
suitably grungy even then! (These days there are a lot of talent-related
business folks there, I believe.)
But Al, while you are technically right about the hottest address for indie
labels, I think that the "Brill Building" term will continue to be generically
applied to the sound in question. (Maybe someone should have named
1650; that might have helped.) It's like "Broadway" theatre -- most
"Broadway" stages are actually on the side streets (only the Winter Garden
and a couple of others have actual Broadway addresses). You make a good
point, but I don't think you're going to get the terminology changed.
Country Paul
(still trying to catch up)
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 08:51:04 +0100
From: Chris King
Subject: The Gang That Dig Doo-Lang
60s Girly Sounds A-Go-Go! Da Doo Ron Ron @ The Sussex Arts Club,
Brighton, Sat. 21st August.
"A summer-flavoured selection of class female acts from The Ronettes to
The Flirtations, The Supremes to Shirley Bassey and more besides. Time to
get with the girls and frug". -- The Guardian - Clubs 'Pick Of The Week' –
Saturday June 19th 2004
Da Doo Ron Ron, the one & only 60s girl group club, return for their monthly
sashay through the femme-centric side of the Swingin' Sixties on Saturday
21st August @ the Sussex Arts Club, 07 , Ship St, Brighton, East Sussex,
BN1. Tel:-01273-778020 / 727371.
9pm to 2am. Pay a fiver before 11pm. £6 after.
e-mail:-info@sussexarts.com
website:-http://dadooronronclub.com
Established in October 1998 (in North London), Da Doo Ron Ron is a 60s
oriented club night with a unique slant. In a tribute to original 'girl power',
DDRR DJs Chris 'Da Doo' King & Simon Bridger (Brighton northern soul
all-dayers) only spin female-fronted tracks from the swingin' sixties and
(Occasionally) early seventies. You will never hear a male lead vocal at
DDRR! The club's musical menu is a femme-centric celebration of 60s girl
groups such as The Supremes, Ronettes, Marvelettes, Shangri-Las, Chiffons,
Crystals etc, sassy soul sisters like Aretha, Dusty, Maxine Brown, Brenda
Holloway and playful popstrels in the vein of Petula Clark, Lesley Gore,
Lulu, Cilla and Helen Shapiro.
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:59:04 -0000
From: ModGirl
Subject: Re: Brian Wilson on Larry King
Jens Koch wrote:
> The Brian Wilson/Larry King interview has again been rescheduled
> and is now scheduled for this Friday, August 13.
Thanks for the tip! I had just about given up on ever seeing it...
ModGirl
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 05:26:07 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Crow
Andy:
> Better yet, the group Crow is back in the studio and they are selling
> the "best of CD" on their web site, http://www.crowtheband.com
Andy, that's a cool site! Thanks so much for providing it! Great to
see they are still rockin'!! Clark
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:18:04 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Dan Fogelberg to Musica
For the heck of it, I played Dan Fogelberg's earliest 45 to Musica.
I absolutely love this song, "Maybe Time Will Let me Forget", which
was written by Dan also. You can certainly see where he started well
on his way to stardom in the 70's. This record from late '68. He
also recorded some songs that are on an obscure Lp of various artists
from (I believe) a bar called the Red Herring in Illinois. You can
find more info and a picture of the Peoria, Illinois band at the
site: http://www.treehouse.org/fogelberg/coachmen.html
It also has a download for both sides of the single. Not sure about
the quality on those, as I have not downloaded them. Hope someone
likes this! Clark
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:09:13 +0200
From: Frank
Subject: Re: Checkmates Ltd. CD release
David Bell wrote:
> I've just come across a piece of news on the Hip-O site
> on their (somewhat expensive) new Checkmates Ltd. CD.
Paul Urbahns:
> At that price I wish they had included Lazy Susan and Baby Don't You
> Get Crazy, instead of just the straight LP. I have two copies of the
> album already.
Also this CD has been released twice already. Once in Japan by A&M and
once more in Spain on a very dubious label coupled with the River Deep
album. The Japanese release was their usual impeccable sound but the
Spanish release had a different sound altogether very strange and
interesting as if they had been playing around with the stereo.
Frank
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:41:34 +0000
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Little Joe Cook
Country Paul wrote:
> ... in his office, and Little Joe Cook ["Peanuts," Little Joe & The
> Thrillers] ...
Little Joe Cook is still a fixture in Central Square, Cambridge, Mass.,
where he holds court three or four nights a week at the Cantab Lounge.
He's been there for several decades now, still dividing his audiences
(mostly made up of the frat/sor crowd these days) into "Hamburgers" and
"Cheeseburgers" (i.e., women and men, or perhaps it's vice versa) for
playful call-and-response segments, still tooling around town in his tan
Caddy with the license plate "P-NUT" and a horn that toots the signature
notes from his signature tune. The traffic intersection in front of the
Cantab, in fact, has been officially designated "Little Joe Cook Square."
Dig,
--Phil M.
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 20:29:37 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Four J's inquiry
Sheila wrote:
> Seems there were a few groups calling themselves the Four J's
> back in the day, and I'm curious about the Four J's that
> released "Will You Be My Love" / "Nursery" on 4 J Records in
> 1963. They sound like an East Coast doo-wop girl group, but
> something tells me I could be wrong. Are they girls or boys or
> both? Please help!
Ooh good, a girl group question!
You're right, there were several different groups tagged the Four
Js. I know diddley about them all, except, luckily for you, the
outfit that recorded for 4 J Records.
For starters, 04 J was a west coast label, and the Four Js were a
Los Angeles group. Their line-up comprised Brenda Holloway, Patrice
Holloway, Pat Hunt and Priscilla Kennedy. The Holloway girls were
sisters, and Pat Hunt was their cousin.
The Four Js also recorded for the Donna label as the Watesians.
They were from Watts, hence the name.
Some facts about each member:
Brenda Holloway, of course, joined the Tamla label in 1964, where
she enjoyed quite a few hits. Previously, she'd recorded quite
prolifically for numerous small Los Angeles labels. I collect her
pre-Motown 45s, too numerous to list
After a solo single on the Taste label, Patrice Holloway also
signed to Motown, but nothing was released until recent years.
Later, she had releases on Capitol, first as a solo act, then as
a member of Josie & the Pussycats.
Pat Hunt had solo releases too, for the Kent and Early Bird label.
She also recorded as a duo with Lonnie Russ for 4 J.
Before and after her time as a Watesian/Four J, Priscilla Kennedy
recorded as a member of the Fantasians (Cenco, 1962), the
Pearlettes (Go, VJ and Vault, 1961/2), the Delicates (Challenge
and Soul Town, 1964-'66) and the Irresistables (Imperial 1966).
She also recorded solo as Eleanor Rigby for the Amsterdam label
in 1971.
Will that do ya?!
I wouldn't have thought the group's 4 J single was your kind of
thing. Why the special interest? Just curious.
Hey la,
Mick
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