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There are 22 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Dean Reed's "Elizabeth"
From: Andres
2. Rocio Durcal´s " Mi Corazon" in Musica.
From: Julio Niño
3. Re: Del Shannon Box Set
From: Scott Swanson
4. Vogue Records UK - and elsewhere?
From: Andrew Charles
5. Re: Phoenix, AZ question
From: Gary Myers
6. invitation to join the Scram events mailing list
From: Kim Cooper
7. Re: Someday We'll Sort Of Be Together
From: Phil X Milstein
8. Sandy Posey: A single girl with multiple identities
From: Mick Patrick
9. Re: Supremes' back-ups
From: Tony Leong
10. Re: Sandy Posey [does not equal] Martha Sharp
From: Phil X Milstein
11. Kenney Buttrey, R.I.P.
From: Ed B
12. "Bend Me, Shape Me"
From: zedboy
13. Re: invitation to join the Scram events mailing list
From: Joe Nelson
14. Re: Phoenix, AZ question
From: Gary Myers
15. "Hey There Mary Mae!"
From: Frank Young
16. Re: Supremes back-ups
From: John Fox
17. Re: Del Shannon Box Set
From: Richard Hattersley
18. Ping Pong
From: Al Kooper
19. Re: The Frank Guida Sound
From: Al Kooper
20. Re: Gillian Hills
From: Al Kooper
21. Re: Steve Alaimo, Latimore and Al Kooper
From: Al Kooper
22. Brent Records
From: Al Kooper
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:25:27 +0400
From: Andres
Subject: Re: Dean Reed's "Elizabeth"
Previously:
> I have the song "Elizabeth" sung in Spanish by Dean Reed on a Russian
> CD, and the melody is naggingly familiar - Steve Fuji and I were
> trying to figure it out, without success. The label MAY credit it to
> Paul Anka but my Russian isn't so hot... The verses have a call-and-
> response of "shoobee-doo (shoobee-doo) shoobee-dah (shoobee-dah)" if
> that helps. Maybe Julio can help?? Thanks!
Julio:
> I would love to help you, maybe if I could listen to it, but I'm
> really bad identifying songs. I didn't know anything about Dean Reed.
> I've searched for info in internet and what I've found is rather
> intriguing. It seems that DreamWorks and Tom Hanks are preparing a
> movie about him...
He was very much popular in the former Soviet Union and GDR (do you
remember this abbreviation?). Strange but I never ever met any US
citizen who ever new anything about Dean... You are the first one.
Actually he singing wasn't that bad...
Andres
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:43:09 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: Rocio Durcal´s " Mi Corazon" in Musica.
Hola Everybody.
At this time of the season here in Madrid everybody seems to feel
generically in love. The biochemistry of love saturates the air,
intoxicating boys and girls. Everybody seems to be looking at
someone to apply this feeling (No, I'm not on an overdose of
Prozac).
This is the subject matter of "Mi Corazón" (My heart) by Rocio
Durcal now playing in Musica. (My heart runs and runs, and I go
after it, I have to find you, I have to fall in love....). Pure
teen philosophy.
Composed by Augusto Alguero and Antonio Guijarro, issued on the
Spanish EP Philips 436.320-PE/1965, on the cover of the EP Rocio
appears with short hair and a suit looking as a boy. She seems
very confortable with that look. I hope you like it.
Julio.
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:31:34 -0700
From: Scott Swanson
Subject: Re: Del Shannon Box Set
Previously:
> Just heard that Bear Family are due to release a 8 CD Box-set on Del
> Shannon soon, track listing not available to press, though the title
> is 1960-70. Yum-yum. Oh, and 120 page hard back book is in the price.
> This is correct. If anybody needs details upfront, please ask.
I think it's safe to say that 90% of the people on this list would love
to have all the details RIGHT NOW! :)
Scott
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:17:15 -0400
From: Andrew Charles
Subject: Vogue Records UK - and elsewhere?
There may also have been a German branch of Vogue Records. Don Fardon's
original version of "Indian Reservation" was, says the label, "Produced
by Miki Dallon in England for Deutsche Vogue."
ACJ
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:49:21 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Phoenix, AZ question
Me, earlier:
> ... I'm searching for a singer/piano player known as Chico Vance ...
Dan Nowicki:
> ... the real name of Chico Vance/Cheek-O-Vass was Concetto Vasile.
Alright, Dan!
> As Cheek-O-Vass (with the Sola Tears) he did the great Arizona
> rockabilly number "Bo Peep Rock" backed with "Desert Party Blues"
> (Twy-Lite 752, 1961).
Thanks very much! I was missing the B-side title on that.
> The record in question here ("My Linda Jo" by Chico Vance with the
> Nocturnals b/w "The Twister's Stomp" by The Nocturnals) was recorded
> at Audio Recorders of Arizona on North Seventh Street in Phoenix. Jim
> Musil produced it ...
I spoke with Musil several years ago, and he's the one who gave me the
approximation of Chico's last name.
> The Nocturnals were perhaps better known in the Phoenix area as the
> Mike Metko Combo.
I spoke with Metko's widow about a year after Metko died. I think it
was she who provided a couple other names for me to find.
> Musil and Ramsey made a deal with John Dolan of Chicago-based Stacy
> Records to reissue the Bat record.
I've spoken with Dolan a few times. He is from an outlying suburb of
Milwaukee (Hartford) and he had a brief, but interesting stint in the
music business. His label was New Phoenix, and Revive was his partner,
Paul Yopps (who, I believe, now lives in the Phoenix area).
> They did another record with Chico Vance: "Ghost of Your Love" b/w
> "Why Wait For Winter" (Stacy 967 1963).
Those tracks came from a previous release by Mike DeNett, apparently
from Chicago (another mystery I'd like to solve), which came out on
both Stacy and Raynard.
> Hope this helps . . .
Tremendously! Thanks very much!
Gary Myers / MusicGem
http://home.earthlink.net/~gem777/
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:22:54 -0700
From: Kim Cooper
Subject: invitation to join the Scram events mailing list
There's a box on the main page of http://www.scrammagazine.com, where
you can sign up for our new Notify List, which will provide email
announcements of upcoming Scram Magazine, bubblegum and Lost in the
Grooves book release events in LA, NY and beyond. If you like to stay
informed about unpopular culture and things like the Bubblegum
Achievement Awards, free P.F. Sloan and Brute Force concerts, Music
Machine reunions, Joe Meek film festivals, etc., please add yourself
and let interested parties know that they can sign up too.
thanks,
Kim Cooper
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:25:53 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Someday We'll Sort Of Be Together
Todd wrote:
> Johnny Bristol is the male voice heard on "Someday"; he also co-wrote
> (with Harvey Fuqua) and produced the record. The female backgrounds,
> incidentally, are supplied by erstwhile session singers Maxine and
> Julia Waters--aside from Diana Ross, no other Supremes are heard on
> the song.
That's quite ironic, in the light of the fact that the record was
heavily promoted as being The Supremes' swansong with Ross, and, of
course, was sentimentally connected to the theme of the song. (Oh yeah,
they were together again alright, if by "together" you mean getting
poked with a bony elbow to be pushed into the back line on the 25th
Anniversary showcase. Together in Hell, maybe.*)
Then again, perhaps it is more appropriate than ironic, since Mary, Flo
and later Cindy apparently sang on so few of their records in the latter
days of their Ross period. Interesting to learn that Johnny Bristol, who
not only co-wrote "Someday ..." but also sang with Jackey Beavers on its
original version, produced and sang on the more famous version of it.
Yeah,
--Phil M.
*Actually, it is only Miss Ross who will be headed there, and will be
appearing nightly in the 9th Circle Room in a gorgeous, off-the-shoulder
asbestos lamé gown by Bob Mackie.
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:34:31 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Sandy Posey: A single girl with multiple identities
Phil M:
> ... I don't believe it's ever been totally, definitively and
> finally confirmed before that Martha Sharp and Sandy Posey are
> two entirely different ladies ...
I have at my side the Sandy Posey CD "A Single Girl: The Very
Best Of The MGM Recordings" (RPM 245). It comes with rather
excellent sleeve notes written by Peter Doggett, from which I
have plucked the following quote from Sandy:
"I am not Martha Sharp! She had her own career, as a writer and
then working for record companies. I'm tired of reading in
magazines and books that I'm her."
So there you have it, from the horse's mouth; Sandy Posey is
NOT the same person as Martha Sharp.
However, she IS the same person as Betty York, Sandy Carmel,
Betty Richards and Sherry York. For more information, visit:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/9229/sposey.htm
As Dionne Warwick was to Burt Bacharach, so was Sandy Posey to
Chips Moman. She was magnificent.
> What I wouldn't give for a crack at interviewing Miss Sharp
> about her experiences in the record business!
Go for it please. I'd love to read it.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:03:38 -0000
From: Tony Leong
Subject: Re: Supremes' back-ups
Todd:
> Johnny Bristol is the male voice heard on (the Supremes' "Someday
> We'll Be Together"); he also co-wrote (with Harvey Fuqua) and
> produced the record. The female backgrounds, incidentally, are
> supplied by erstwhile session singers Maxine and Julia Waters--
> aside from Diana Ross, no other Supremes are heard on the song.
> The Four Tops DID provide the grunting male chorus on "When the
> Lovelight Starts Shining Through His Eyes"--the Supremes' very
> first Top 40 hit in October '63.
Right!!! And I believe a combo of HDH and some Tops also figured in
on "Standing at the Crossroads of Love" and "Run Run Run"!!!!
Tony Leong
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:22:21 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Sandy Posey [does not equal] Martha Sharp
Mick Patrick wrote:
> I have at my side the Sandy Posey CD "A Single Girl: The Very
> Best Of The MGM Recordings" (RPM 245). It comes with rather
> excellent sleeve notes written by Peter Doggett, from which I
> have plucked the following quote from Sandy:
>
> "I am not Martha Sharp! She had her own career, as a writer and
> then working for record companies. I'm tired of reading in
> magazines and books that I'm her."
I have seen that quote, but did not take it as face value, as it seems
like the sort of thing one would say to deny a true rumor. As it turns
out, though, the lady she did not lie.
That's the problem with cynicism -- it's hard to tell when it's truly
merited or not.
Yeah,
--Phil M.
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:44:04 -0000
From: Ed B
Subject: Kenney Buttrey, R.I.P.
Having read of the recent passing away of Kenney Buttrey a name I
wasn't familiar with until I picked up Flatt and Scruggs Nashville
Airplane LP at a yard sale and Kenney was listed as drummer on the
session. Ed
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 23:00:32 -0000
From: zedboy
Subject: "Bend Me, Shape Me"
I just saw Sonny Geraci from The Outsiders, and he was great. He did
a bunch of covers, including Bend Me Shape Me. I know that was The
American Breed but I read somewhere that The Outsiders also had a hit
with it. Anybody remember that? I never heard it.
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:36:50 -0400
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Re: invitation to join the Scram events mailing list
Kim Cooper:
> If you like to stay informed about unpopular culture and things like
> the Bubblegum Achievement Awards, free P.F. Sloan and Brute Force
> concerts, Music Machine reunions, Joe Meek film festivals, etc.,
> please add yourself and let interested parties know that they can
> sign up too.
I'm not used to hearing Brute Force and P.F. Sloan mentioned in the
same paragraph, let alone the same sentence. Still, I'm open minded.
All hail the Fuh king...
Joe Nelson
(don't complain, it's an actual song...)
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:29:09 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Phoenix, AZ question
Dan Nowicki:
> Musil and Ramsey made a deal with John Dolan of Chicago-based Stacy
> Records to reissue the Bat record.
BTW, Dolan's biggest success was with Chico Holiday's "God, Country
And My Baby", which was covered and charted by Johnny Burnette.
> They did another record with Chico Vance: "Ghost of Your Love" b/w
> "Why Wait For Winter" (Stacy 967 1963).
Also BTW, those tracks were co-produced in Nashville with Cliff Parman
(co-writer of "Pretend") and included Floyd Cramer & Grady Martin. The
same session yielded a record ("Wonder Where The Boys Go" on Raynard)
by another Milwaukee singer, Rose DuBats - very good record.
gem
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:21:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Frank Young
Subject: "Hey There Mary Mae!"
Re: the posting that mentioned this Sloan/Barri song... while it's
similar to the Gary Bonds song that was mentioned, so are about a
jillion other three-chord, uptempo "frat rock" ditties of the era.
I don't think Sloan and Barri were out to rip anybody off.
Phil's vocal performance on the demo, as is the case with many of
his demos, is so exuberant and high-energy that he sells the song
enormously well. He's singing so hard that his voice strains in a
very appealing way. The backing for the track is crisp and driving.
It's one of many coulda-been-a-hit Phil Sloan performances from
'64-'66.
As well, the Don and the Goodtimes version of this song WAS released,
backed with a cover version of the Drifters'/Searchers' "Sweets for
My Sweet," as Dunhill D-4022, in 1965.
Best, Frank
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:24:33 EDT
From: John Fox
Subject: Re: Supremes back-ups
Todd writes:
> Johnny Bristol is the male voice heard on (the Supremes' "Someday"
> We'll Be Together"); he also co-wrote (with Harvey Fuqua) and
> produced the record. The female backgrounds, incidentally, are
> supplied by erstwhile session singers Maxine and Julia Waters--aside
> from Diana Ross, no other Supremes are heard on the song.
Possibly apocryphal, but the legend of "Someday We'll Be Together" (BTW,
symbolically the last #1 song of the 1960s) is that Diana Ross was so
distraught about The Supremes breaking up and this being their last
official record, that she could not have gotten through the lead vocal
without Johnny Bristol's "encouragement" (all those "yeah, baby" type
lines that he sings). Knowing Miss Ross and all of the terrible things
that have been written about her and her relationships with the other
Supremes, I doubt this is true!
John Fox
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:38:04 +0000
From: Richard Hattersley
Subject: Re: Del Shannon Box Set
Previously:
> Just heard that Bear Family are due to release a 8 CD Box-set on Del
> Shannon soon, track listing not available to press, though the title
> is 1960-70. Yum-yum. Oh, and 120 page hard back book is in the price.
> This is correct. If anybody needs details upfront, please ask.
I'd like details, as much as you've got!
When is it coming out and what's the track list?
cheers
Richard
http://www.wiz.to/richardsnow
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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:28:27 EDT
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Ping Pong
Mikey (Tape Historian) writes:
> But fact is that Tom Moulton has stage tapes of the hit 45 version
> pretty much proves it was done in stages, mono to mono, as were
> hundreds of Hit recordings from that 1963 time period.
Just wanna clarify that your explanation seems to imply (to me) that
time (days) exists between stages. Most of the ping-pong records were
cut in the same session. Once each stage was "approved", one would
move quickly ahead to the next until the entire job was done. I'd say
85% of pingpongs wre done in one sitting of many stages (commonly 4-8).
Al Kooper
Queens NY Ping Pong Champ 1958-65
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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:33:01 EDT
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Re: The Frank Guida Sound
Previously:
> As far as I'm concerned Guida's sound was just great and I'd still
> listen everyday to Quarter To Three or any Gary US Bonds tracks
> than most of the so called up to date sound.
My fave has always been "If Ya Wanna Be Happy For The Rest of Your
Life, Never Make A Pretty Woman Your Wife - From My Personal Point
of View Get An Ugly Woman To Marry You" by Jimmy Soul. Now THAT'S
some Shakespearian wisdom right dere.
Al Kooper
(don't show dis to my wife)
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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:36:47 EDT
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Re: Gillian Hills
Previously:
> ... and (Gillian Hills') well known short raunchy appearance in
> Antonioni's "Blow Up".
Nor well known to me. What'd she do/play? I'm intrigued by the
adjective "raunchy".
Al Kooper
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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:45:56 EDT
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Re: Steve Alaimo, Latimore and Al Kooper
Previously:
> I've long wondered how you came to produce (with Steve Alaimo) and
> write two very fine tracks on Latimore's first UK album, "Jolie" and
> "Be real". Forgive my ignorance, but were they released as a single
> at the time (around 1973) and is there a story behind them? The album
> itself is a strange collection of differing styles, as if they weren't
> sure in which direction to go, in marked contrast to what was to
> follow.
Steve Alaimo welcomed me into the TK family as a writer, arranger and
session musician. If he gave me production credit, it was just kindness
of a mention. No producer royalties, though - dammit !!!
Al Kooper
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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:41:06 EDT
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Brent Records
Country Paul:
> ... I had no idea Terry Cashman was in the Chevrons. Their "Lullaby"
> (Brent) is one of the great forgotten doo-wop tracks. In fact, there
> was a lot of great stuff on that label, including Bertha Tillman
> ("Oh My Angel") and Skip & Flip, among others.
Also Dean Parrish's "Turn On Your Love Light".
Al Kooper
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