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There are 12 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Del Shannon Box Set
From: o-wriedt
2. Re: Supremes' back-ups
From: Ken Silverwood
3. "Tinkerbell's Mind"
From: John D.
4. Re: The Association
From: Bob Rashkow
5. Re: Martha Sharp
From: Austin Roberts
6. Re: Del Shannon box set
From: Richard Hattersley
7. Re: The Angelettes
From: Phil X Milstein
8. Re: Del Shannon Box Set
From: John Berg
9. PF Sloan or Gary US Bonds?? ... etc
From: Clark Besch
10. Re: Vogue Records UK
From: Frank
11. Re: Phoenix, AZ question
From: Dan Nowicki
12. Re: Supremes' back-ups
From: Todd
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:50:06 +0200
From: o-wriedt
Subject: Re: Del Shannon Box Set
Ken Silverwood;
> Just heard that Bear Family are due to release a 8 CD Box-set on Del
> Shannon soon, track listing not available to press, though the title
> is 1960-70. Yum-yum. Oh, and 120 page hard back book is in the price.
This is correct. If anybody needs details upfront, please ask.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:28:03 +0100
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Re: Supremes' back-ups
Jim Fisher:
> Discussing with someone about the male singer/singers indentities
> doing the background call-outs on the Supremes' "Someday we'll be
> together"...I say Four Tops, or part thereof, they say no. Any
> ideas to clear this unseemly squabble up?
Michael Babbino:
> Johnny Bristol?
I'd also say Johnny Bristol & I think he had a hand in the composition.
Ken On The West Coast
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:27:40 -0000
From: John D.
Subject: "Tinkerbell's Mind"
Brent Cash wrote:
> ..."Tinkerbell's Mind" really reminds me of "Four Sail"-era Love.
I couldn't agree more! I've always loved that song, and the vocalist
sounds just like it Arthur Lee.
John D.
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:09:25 EDT
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: The Association
Gary Myers re Everything That Touches You:
> It did (hit the top 10)......9 weeks in Whitburn.
But in Chicago? On WLS perhaps? Don't think it cracked it on CFL--Clark?
Would you know?
I would guess that spring '69's big prom "cuddle-upper" was Crimson &
Clover (Tommy James/Shondells), with New Colony 6's "Things I'd Like To
Say" and BS&T's "You've Made Me So Very Happy" honorable mention.
Mercy's "Love Can Make You Happy" debuted right about then, too, in May
or so, also a popular slow-dancer. (I didn't graduate high school until
1974, and my private-school prom was with a local funk band that
basically played their own stuff, very R&B. Ironically enough all 28 of
the seniors were white, so the entire Upper School was invited to prom.)
Bobster
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:58:29 EDT
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: Martha Sharp
Phil M:
> ... I don't believe it's ever been totally, definitively and finally
> confirmed before that Martha Sharp and Sandy Posey are two entirely
> different ladies... What I wouldn't give for a crack at interviewing
> Miss Sharp about her experiences in the record business!
Martha and Sandy ARE two different women. I know Martha well, but it
would probably be best to get in touch with Paige Levy at WB Records
in Nashville (if she's still there). She can find out if Martha is up
for it. She has had a lot to do with Faith Hill's career for the last
few years, but from a distance. Martha was a super song person; wish
she was still at WB.
Austin R.
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:44:33 +0000
From: Richard Hattersley
Subject: Re: Del Shannon box set
Ken Silverwood:
> Just heard that Bear Family are due to release a 8 CD Box-set on Del
> Shannon soon, track listing not available to press, though the title
> is 1960-70. Yum-yum. Oh, and 120 page hard back book is in the price.
Thats Great news, and about time! This box set has been in the pipeline
for ages. It's been along wait but I think it's gonna be worth it.
Apparently, Bear Family have gone to great lengths to get the earliest
generation tapes for this set and I also read that it will include some
unreleased tracks. Can't wait!
Richard
http://www.wiz.to/richardsnow
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:36:31 +0000
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: The Angelettes
S'pop Projects wrote:
> The Angelettes were a young British quartet from the Manchester
> area who played their own instruments. ...
> Direct link: http://www.spectropop.com/Angelettes/index.htm
Allow me to be the first to thank and congratulate the principals behind
this wonderful story. It's really a delight to hear about a successful
experience, whether "group" or "band," which the members treated with no
ambitions greater than to make some good music and to enjoy themselves
as much as they can in the process. The Angelettes' story reminded me,
in that way, of the tradition of taking a year abroad following college
graduation, only with appearances on Top Of The Pops, Radio Luxembourg
and Bryan Ferry albums tossed in as part of the bargain.
"Don't Let Him Touch You" is way out there at the head of the pack of
psychedelic girl group records, yet until now I knew absolutely nothing
of its provenance. I now know a lot, and all of it is utterly charming.
My only complaint is the absence of any photos of them in the outfits
they wore behind Ferry promoting his "It's A Hard Rain" single on TOTP!
Yeah,
--Phil M.
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:48:44 EDT
From: John Berg
Subject: Re: Del Shannon Box Set
A friend of mine has a cassette tape of early '60s live Del Shannon
that he got several years ago from Del's keyboard playerof that era.
I think this is one of those "do not copy for anyone" deals, but I
wonder if Bear Family would go for something like this? Or do they
only seek out studio recordings? If they were interested, I would
put them in direct contact with my friend (I have no financial
interest in this at all, just an awareness of this tape existing.)
John Berg, Seattle area
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 05:29:19 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: PF Sloan or Gary US Bonds?? ... etc
New to Musica is P.F. Sloan's unreleased demo acetate "Hey There Mary
May". With all the talk of the techniques used to do Gary Bonds'
music, I thought this would be fun to hear at this time. Certainly
NO attempt was made by Sloan to capture the sound of the recording
techniques of U.S. Bonds', but it certainly is a ripoff of his big
hit "New Orleans". Altho I have no info to support this, it could
easily be another Johnny Rivers/P.F. Sloan connection had Johnny
recorded it--perfect for his 1964 "party atmosphere" sound with a
nice twangin' surf guitar break ta boot! Sundazed put a previously
unreleased demo of this song by Don & the Goodtimes on their
Lp, "Original Northwest Sound", which lists Sloan and Barri as
producers too!
Phil M, I enjoyed your idea of Tv soundtrack songs. It's not that
easy to dub those for me for this purpose, but I did it with Jackie
and Gayle once. Good idea. How many want to hear my tape of Mrs.
Miller singing "Downtown" live on Ed Sullivan? Hey, I'm serious!
Thanks to Joe Nelson for posting "Mbube". I was shocked to say the
least. How that turned into "Lion Sleeps Tonight" is amazing, yet
they certainly deserve writing credits and the money that goes with
it.
Country Paul, the Kenny Rankin song is very beautiful!!
Mick Patrick, your "Every Little Bit Hurts" is better than the
released version--very strong vocally!!
Bobster, your talk about a 45 on Musicor by the North Syde has me
drooling. Can you play to Musica? "Everything That Touches" made #6
on WLS, but when I was a kid (without the help of pristeen stereo
sound of today), hearing that song for awhile made it hard to figure
out the title. Could be why it didn't sell as well. I love it!
I also wanted to give a note of thanks for the recent posts on the
Star Spangled Banner and the Bobby Vee questions I asked. I
apologize for my incorrect comment on "Maybe Just Today". I looked
and it was when "Hey Girl/My Girl" came out that I was suprised,
as "Maybe Just Today" had been out such a short time. Amazing about
the flip side story on "Come Back...".
As for Mike McKay's comments about the Kinks' "You Really Got Me"
over "All Day and All the Night", yes, the latter gets slighted by
oldies radio today because of the former in the same way as "She
Loves You" and "Hold Your Hand", except that it is hard to go with
one being better than the other in the Kinks' case, IMO.
Nuzzster, I knew there was a reason why I never wanted to sing "Happy
Birthday". Best version I know is by the Idle Race, I believe.
Take care, Clark
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:33:02 +0200
From: Frank
Subject: Re: Vogue Records UK
Tom:
> ... does anyone know anything about the Vogue label in the UK and
> how and why it ended up putting out so much French material and why
> it's almost impossible to find any of it that isn't by Francoise
> Hardy?
Austin:
> The UK Vogue label was the UK end of Disques Vogue of France (now I
> believe owned by BMG). Its records were issued through Pye's
> facilities at the time and the association was strong particularly
> in relation to Petula Clark who's recordings in French were issued
> by Disques Vogue. It also had a big jazz catalogue I believe. It had
> nothing to do with the Vogue label that Decca operated in the '50s
> and early '60s. Any help?
This is exactly what is was like, Austin,. The British Vogue was a
subsidiary of the French Vogue. The reason why it had a large jazz
catalogue was just because the founder of Vogue (Leon Cabat) was a
huge jazz fan and he signed every jazz artist he could get his hands
on. Sydney Bechet on of the major jazz names in France was just one
of his numerous finds. On the pop side Vogue discovered a large number
of the French artists who were to become household names over here,
from Johnny Halliday to Françoise Hardy and Jacques Dutronc...
Frank
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 05:31:21 EDT
From: Dan Nowicki
Subject: Re: Phoenix, AZ question
Gary Myers:
> I have a Phoenix question. My continuing Wisconsin research leads
> all over and, because of a 1963 Wisconsin release with a Phoenix
> band, I'm searching for a singer/piano player known as Chico Vance.
> The record in question was with the Nocturnals, but he apparently
> was not actually a member of that band. I've found a couple of the
> Nocturnals, but no leads on Vance. He also had an earlier release
> as "Cheek-O-Vass" and his real name was something like Vasilio. He
> may have worked as a barber. I welcome any clues or guesses.
Sorry for the delay in answering this . . .
Apparently the real name of Chico Vance/Cheek-O-Vass was Concetto
Vasile. I'm told he was "very Italian."
As Cheek-O-Vass (with the Sola Tears) he did the great Arizona
rockabilly number "Bo Peep Rock" backed with "Desert Party Blues"
(Twy-Lite 752, 1961).
The record in question here ("My Linda Jo" by Chico Vance with the
Nocturnals b/w "The Twister's Stomp" by The Nocturnals) was recorded
at Audio Recorders of Arizona on North Seventh Street in Phoenix. Jim
Musil produced it and put with Audio Recorders head Floyd Ramsey
issued it on his Bat label in 1962. They sold the record at the
Phoenix nightclub where the Nocturnals played.
The session was bankrolled by a car salesman named Lee Pace because
Musil didn't have any money at the time. Musil liked the name Bat for
a record label because "bats fly by sound."
The Nocturnals were perhaps better known in the Phoenix area as the
Mike Metko Combo. According to Musil, who starting in 1964 managed the
legendary nightclub JD's, Chico Vance was indeed a member of the
Nocturnals. (The Metko group was the house band at JD's for a while.)
Metko, a sax player, previously had played in the Pacific Northwest
band the Checkers.
Musil and Ramsey made a deal with John Dolan of Chicago-based Stacy
Records to reissue the Bat record. Dolan put it out as Revive 101.
"Dolan came to Phoenix, heard the song and wanted it," Musil told me.
"I thought he was putting it out on Stacy. Then, all of a sudden, he
sent me 10 or 15 copies on 'Revive.' I think he put his home address
in Wisconsin on it. The day I got it, I took it over to (Phoenix
restaurant-nightclub) Jeb's and I handed Metko several of them for the
guys in the band who played on it. Mike had a good sense of humor:
'We've come back to life. We've been revived.'"
They did another record with Chico Vance: "Ghost of Your Love" b/w
"Why Wait For Winter" (Stacy 967 1963).
Musil said the joke name "Cheek-O-Vass" was meant to sound like
"Piece of Ass!"
Hope this helps . . .
Dan Nowicki
Phoenix, Arizona, U.S.A.
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:24:57 -0000
From: Todd
Subject: Re: Supremes' back-ups
Jim Fisher wrote:
> Discussing with someone about the male singer/singers indentities
> doing the background call-outs on the Supremes' "Someday we'll be
> together"...I say Four Tops, or part thereof, they say no. Any
> ideas to clear this unseemly squabble up?
Johnny Bristol is the male voice heard on "Someday"; he also co-wrote
(with Harvey Fuqua) and produced the record. The female backgrounds,
incidentally, are supplied by erstwhile session singers Maxine and
Julia Waters--aside from Diana Ross, no other Supremes are heard on
the song. The Four Tops DID provide the grunting male chorus on "When
the Lovelight Starts Shining Through His Eyes"--the Supremes' very
first Top 40 hit in October '63.
TJ
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