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There are 20 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: peddles=petals?
           From: Austin Roberts 
      2. Re: More Claire Francis @ Musica
           From: Claire Francis 
      3. Now Playing In Musica
           From: Tom Diehl 
      4. Katz / Kassenetz
           From: Barry 
      5. Re: Reparata & the Delrons "Look In My Diary"
           From: Austin Roberts 
      6. Re: "Breaking Away" or "I'm Breaking Away"
           From: Mike the Bass Player 
      7. Ravels? Revels? other Revels?; more
           From: Country Paul 
      8. Re: something to SMiLe about
           From: Steve Harvey 
      9. Lewis & Clarke Expedition
           From: Mike Dugo 
     10. Love/Zombies in Cleveland
           From: Mike McKay 
     11. Discoveries Magazine
           From: Bob Celli 
     12. George Gerdes
           From: Stephane Rebeschini 
     13. Re: Katz / Kassenetz
           From: MJ 
     14. Twang Shebang #5 - on the air!
           From: Unsteady Freddie 
     15. Van Dyke Parks, Lewis & Clarke
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     16. Re: French EP's, AZ
           From: Stephane Rebeschini 
     17. Re: Baby Lemonade
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     18. Re: Ravels? Revels? other Revels?; more
           From: Gary Myers 
     19. Re: Chicago session musicians
           From: James  Holvay 
     20. "Fever"
           From: ACJ 


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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 02:44:43 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: peddles=petals? Joe Nelson: > It is indeed about a girl pedaling a bicycle. The correct spelling > is "pedals" ("peddles" is a reference to selling something), but > the label actually reads "Rose Peddles Everywhere She Goes". Little girl pedaling a bike. Obviously it was called that so people would wonder. Hell, I still do. Take real good care. Country Paul: > Do you mean "Rose Petals," or is it about a girl peddling a bicycle? > Or is that the label's version of the title? Inquiring linguists want > to know.... Phil M: > It's a pun ... actually, a rare and well-executed triple > (treble?) pun: petals/peddles/pedals. > Bravo, Austin! I meant it about a little girl pedalling a bike but I wanted to create a little confusion a la flowers and solicitation. It was that time in the world of pop music and I couldn't resist. AR -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:00:05 EDT From: Claire Francis Subject: Re: More Claire Francis @ Musica Regarding "I've Got My Own Thing Going": First, I want to thank you so much for putting it on in the Music Room. It gave my family a great "charge" and now everyone is walking around the house saying "this is my new motto." I remember it was a jumpin' session. I had booked Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page on this session. Eric was on 12 string and Jimmy was on electric. Bill Wyman is on electric bass, Coleridge Good is on stand-up bass. The background vocal is also me. I triple tracked vocals. I made sure there was plenty of food and beer - most of the musicians opted not to drink on the session, but afterwards we enjoyed the catering. I was well known for always doing stuff like that. Thanks again for helping to bring my past alive again. If any one of you wonderful people get a chance, I would appreciate it if you could send me via email, or play to musica, any copies of The John Bull Breed and Sonny Childe and Arthur Brown. That would probably be most of my work during the first part of 1966. Thanks again. Love & Light, Claire -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:53:53 -0000 From: Tom Diehl Subject: Now Playing In Musica >From the "Diamond" mine, I have played to musica 3 tunes of interest from the original 45s. First was Lots Of Luck by the Ravels, which sounds a bit similar to Comanche by the Revels, which appeared on the Pulp Fiction soundtrack. Next, "I Remember Barbara" by Dickey Lee. I believe someone on here was a Dickey Lee collector, do you have the Diamond sides yet? I wonder if Dickey himself even has them. I preferred the B side over the A side, his remake of "Ruby Baby" (which Ronnie Dove recorded around the same time, in a much different arrangement, but that didn't get released for 20 years after this one). Last, "Good Morning Love" by the Bleus. They became the Electric Hand Band when Diamond became Certron in 1970. They had a website but it's gone now. They had regrouped and everything...does anyone know what happened to them? Well thats all for this week. Enjoy the Diamond triple play for the week. Tom Diehl -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 09:18:02 -0500 From: Barry Subject: Katz / Kassenetz Nostalgia aside, one thing that Katz and Kassenetz did of some historical significance was that when they were once in need of some songs they contacted Graham Gouldman. He, in turn, suggested a friend of his who had a small studio in Stockport, England and that instead of Gouldman staying in New York to write songs for them, he and his friends could write and record demos at this new and small studio. The studio? Strawberry, owned by Eric Stewart (late of The Mindbenders) and Peter Tattersall. When Katz/Kassenetz hired the studio for 6 months(!), Stewart and Gouldman invited former Mockingbirds drummer and friend, Kevin Godley, and his mate, Lol Crème, to get involved also. This group of 4 first became Hotlegs, was instrumental in Neil Sedaka's comeback, and finally became 10cc. Do you know that a handful of tracks issued under various Katz/Kassenetz names were actually the guys who became 10cc? Barry in Minneapolis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:56:21 EDT From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Reparata & the Delrons "Look In My Diary" Previously: > It's really interesting how memory works, Tony. I was at the session > when "Look In My Diary" was recorded. I had not heard the song in > over 35 years yet when I heard it on CD last year it was as if I had > just heard it recorded the day before. The melody and lyrics were > just imbedded in my brain. Perhaps it was the multiple takes. I have > to admit, though, that I hadn't thought of the song in over 35 years. You're right about memory. In 1968, Mary (Reperata) sang bgds. with me on about three sides being produced by Bill and Steve Jerome,who had produced Repeata and the Delrons as well. Great Girl. Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:24:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike the Bass Player Subject: Re: "Breaking Away" or "I'm Breaking Away" Jeff M: > I think the song (Breaking Away) you're looking for is by the > group, Balance. Peppy Castro, formerly of the Blues Magoos, > was in this group. It hit the charts in July of 1981. Jeff, Yes, that's it! Thank you! Next....to find the record (or mp3). Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 00:39:09 -0400 From: Country Paul Subject: Ravels? Revels? other Revels?; more Re: "Lots of Luck" by the Ravels, now at musica - sounds like the background to a cheesy old "adult" movie - or a stripper! I got excited when you suggested it could be the Revels - but I guess you mean the "Church Key" group, not the "Midnight Stroll" vocal group, which had all kinds of incarnations themselves. The Bleus' "Good Morning Love" is fun - thanks for this one. Eddy: > Mary Anne was on the charts for 10 weeks, reaching #17 in the > UK in early 1965 (Columbia DB7476) What a beautiful song - glad to hear it had a well-deserved chart run. Thank you! I keep being impressed with the "Smile" CD - hung up on the second movement for a while now. Can't wait for the Carnegie Hall concert tomorrow night. (Only in New York, talk about an embarrassment of riches: Bruce Springsteen, Jackson Browne and many more are playing in the Meadowlands Arena in New Jersey just across the river from Manhattan on the same night!) Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:33:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: something to SMiLe about Personally I'm waiting for Van Dyke Parks to take "Discover America" on tour at all the IHOPs throughout the land. See one show then send in your ticket stub and a penny to catch the next date. Steve Harvey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:06:01 -0000 From: Mike Dugo Subject: Lewis & Clarke Expedition What is the general consensus on The Lewis & Clarke Expedition? Considering their pedigree (Michael Martin Murphy and Boomer Castleman were members, and Mike Nesmith was involved) they have been almost completely forgotten. They appeared in the movie For Singles Only and on I Dream Of Jeannie, and were featured in many of the teen mags of the day - so they reached some type of notoriety ... at least in the late '60s. This is a band that Sundazed or Rev-Ola should definitely consider reissuing. I'm only familiar with a few of their songs; can anybody assist with a CD-R of their singles and '67 LP to assist with some research for www.60sgaragebands.com? If so, please contact me offlist. Thanks in advance. Mike Dugo 60sgaragebands.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:12:17 EDT From: Mike McKay Subject: Love/Zombies in Cleveland OK, I promised a review. I'll try to keep it brief (and try to keep from gushing too much!). Love were incredibly good and powerful. I just was in awe through the whole set, because I never imagined I'd hear all these songs I've loved for so many years performed live. (I nearly got tears in my eyes toward the end of "You Set The Scene.") Baby Lemonade, who have served as Love since 1992 (with a, er, six-year gap) have now been supplemented by original Love guitarist Johnny Echol. It was so cool seeing him up there having a good time, and he made some fine contributions. The result was that, when Arthur Lee played guitar, there were FOUR guitars plus bass. As I said, very powerful! There were many songs from "Forever Changes," but also "7 And 7 Is" and "Orange Skies" from "Da Capo" (flute parts on the latter ably duplicated by guitarist Mike Randle, who did the same for the horn parts on FC). And all the way back to "My Flash On You" and forward to "Singing Cowboy." The band was loose and Arthur seemed to be having a great time. The other thing that must be said is that he is truly an outstanding vocalist, whether belting it out or singing with great sensitivity on Bryan MacLean's "Old Man." All in all, a superb performance. The Zombies were great of course, perhaps not quite as much as when I saw them two years ago, but it was all new then. My disappointment that "Say You Don't Mind" and "I Don't Believe In Miracles" weren't done this time 'round was mitigated by hearing "Brief Candles" and "I Want Her She Wants Me" for the first time. Colin and Rod were both superb, as always. Bottom line: for God's sake, do whatever you must to see this show if it's anywhere near to you! Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 14:04:17 -0000 From: Bob Celli Subject: Discoveries Magazine I just got the word from Bobby Vee that Discoveries is doing an extensive article on him in an upcoming issue, probably for the beginning of next year. His picture will also be featured on the cover. I'm hoping this marks a change in direction for the magazine, with artists from the fifties and sixties getting more spots on the front page, and also inside. Bob Celli -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:38:10 +0200 From: Stephane Rebeschini Subject: George Gerdes Bonjour de France For all interested, George Gerdes has his own web site with lots of info: http://www.georgegerdes.com/ He seems to spend more time working as an actor (movies, TV, Broadway...) than as a singer, but the website announces a new live album. Regards Stephane Rebeschini -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:42:07 -0400 From: MJ Subject: Re: Katz / Kassenetz Barry in Minneapolis: > Do you know that a handful of tracks issued under various > Katz/Kassenetz names were actually the guys who became 10cc? er..mm.......yes........ the CD, 'Strawberry Bubblegum', is here: http://tinyurl.com/4s37o MJ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:18:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Unsteady Freddie Subject: Twang Shebang #5 - on the air! My 5th edition of Twang Shebang is available for your listening pleasure http://www.myrealbroadcast.com is the site Some of the artists and personalities I discuss: Scott Muni Rodney Dangerfield Cuban Cowboys Red Elvises Satan's Pilgrims Jethro Tull Les Fradkin Los Straitjackets The Ventures Pat Benatar Monotones Brian Wilson Wipe Out Festival Bitch Boys Davie Allan Drifting Sand ...and others. Your comments are encouraged: hit the YOUR COMMENTS button on the site thanks for hangin' - keep on twangin' Unsteady Freddie Twang Shebang Radio Host - http://www.myrealbroadcast.com http://www.unsteadyfreddie.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:52:03 EDT From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Van Dyke Parks, Lewis & Clarke I have "Song Cycle", first checked out in 1982. I shall lay all of my pennies at VDP's feet. What a genius, what an LP. Absolutely wild, to be spun back to back with United States of America or American Metaphysical Circus. Where HAVE all the hippies gone? Screen Gems-Columbia must have been trying to make Travis Lewis and Boomer Clarke stars a la The Monkees, but it didn't work. If they recorded at least 15-20 tunes a CD is definitely in order. "I Feel Good (I Feel Bad)" is a great tune that could have been a hit for The Monkees, actually. It got lots of airplay in some areas, climbing up to the lower half of the Hot 100. "Destination Unknown" which IIRC they perform in "For Singles Only" is another example of their talent. I may have a chance to get Vernon Joynson's "Fuzz, Acid and Flowers" in print - my local vinyl shop informed me he has a copy. "Shakin' all ov-VUH!" Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 17:26:54 +0200 From: Stephane Rebeschini Subject: Re: French EP's, AZ Dave Monroe a écrit: > I'm under the impression that perhaps the two-track 45 > was more the province of certain labels as well. I've > no end of, say, picture-sleeved Disques Vogue 4-track > EPs, but my AZ stuff, on the other hand, consists, off > the top of my head, largely of two-track 45s. Bonjour, After 1967, as Frank explained, the french record companies started releasing EPs and singles. The EPs vanished after 1969 (with some exceptions, CBS stopped releasing them sooner). Roughly: 50s to 1967: only EPs (always with PS) plus jukebox/promo singles (some with PS, but generally not) 1967/69 : EPs and singles (always with PS), plus some promo/jukebox singles of the commercial EPs (without PS) 1969 to 198x: singles (always with PS), plus some promo/jukebox singles without PS (or occasional special promo PS). Some EPs were still released, generally by small labels. In the 70's, the 'big labels' released very few EPs, mostly as 'special products' associated with promo campaigns for cars, clothes, banks... The AZ (or DiscAZ) company released many EPs until 1968 : Michel Polnareff, Christophe, Romuald, Pierre Barouh, Danyel Gerard... were all on AZ. Then, after 1968, AZ released only singles, always with sleeves, of French acts, of some European labels, but also of rather obscure US labels. For instance, several Map City productions (Anders & Poncia label) were released in France, including at least 4 Mardi Gras singles and several Double Shot (Brenton Wood, Count Five...). Their 1966/73 period was extremely prolific, with hundreds of singles, many EPs and some LPs. The 60s/early 70s French releases of US/UK acts are often marred by bad English spelling and 'strange' sleeves (the ones mentioned by Frank, but also a BB King single with a picture of... Ben E King, and similar mistakes). At least we were lucky to have the songs released in France! Regards Stephane Rebeschini -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:02:18 +0000 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Baby Lemonade Mike McKay wrote: > Love were incredibly good and powerful. I just was in awe through the > whole set, because I never imagined I'd hear all these songs I've loved > for so many years performed live. (I nearly got tears in my eyes toward > the end of "You Set The Scene.") Baby Lemonade, who have served as > Love since 1992 (with a, er, six-year gap) have now been supplemented > by original Love guitarist Johnny Echol. It was so cool seeing him up there > having a good time, and he made some fine contributions. The result was > that, when Arthur Lee played guitar, there were FOUR guitars plus bass. > As I said, very powerful! I agree 100% with Mike's assessment of the current incarnation of Love. Well, at least last year's incarnation, which was the last time they came through Boston, prior to restoring Mr. Echols to the band. In fact, I've been fortunate to catch Arthur backed by Baby Lemonade several times over the years, and the act, somehow, just keeps getting better and better, highlighted by Arthur's now-awesome singing and Mike Randle's brilliant lead guitar. What I'd like to know is whether any of y'all have ever heard Baby Lemonade's own records, and if so which might make the best starting point. If they are even half as good on their own as they are as Love, it is high time I finally got on board. Yeah, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:13:55 -0700 From: Gary Myers Subject: Re: Ravels? Revels? other Revels?; more Country Paul: > Re: "Lots of Luck" by the Ravels ... I got excited when you > suggested it could be the Revels - but I guess you mean the > "Church Key" group, not the "Midnight Stroll" vocal group, > which had all kinds of incarnations themselves. FWIW, there was also a Ravelles, who recorded on Chicago's Mobie label and had a Wisconsin connection. gem -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:13:15 -0700 From: James Holvay Subject: Re: Chicago session musicians Me: > "I played guitar on a few sessions with Billy (Davis)as the > producer. He was a perfect gentleman and a "master" in the > studio. We were young musicians in Chicago, trying to make > soul music and he was God to us." Richard Williams: > James, did you ever play a session with the drummer Al Duncan? If > so, do you have any memories you might share? I loved his very > distinctive playing on the early Impressions/Major Lance sessions. Richard, I was too young and not good enough to be playing with Al Duncan and the Chess musicians. The two sessions I did at Chess was with a self-contained band that later became The MOB. Louis Satterfield (later trombone player wth EW&F) played Fender P.Bass on the Major Lance stuff. Still checking on who played upright on the early Impressions/ABC Paramount sessions. I'm trying to get a hold of J.Pate. James -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 01:34:08 -0400 From: ACJ Subject: "Fever" Here's something I've always wondered about concerning the song "Fever". Peggy Lee's remake has become the "standard" version, even though its lyrics are mostly diferent from Little Willie John's original (Willie's version didn't have the "history lesson"). Did Peggy Lee write those 'new' lyrics herself? Or were they in the original song and Willie just didn't use them? Thanks. ACJ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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