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There are 20 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Katz / Kassenetz
From: Davie Gordon
2. Re: something to SMiLe about
From: John DeAngelis
3. Re: Katz / Kassenetz
From: Barry
4. Re: Caleen Anderegg?
From: Davie Gordon
5. Re: The Man from Nazareth
From: Jens Koch
6. Smile CD Question/Observation
From: Mark Frumento
7. Re: new to musica
From: Chris
8. Re: Discoveries Magazine
From: Wes Smith
9. The Man From Nazareth
From: Davie Gordon
10. Re: Smile CD Question/Observation
From: Jens Koch
11. Re: Lewis & Clarke Expedition
From: Frank Jastfelder
12. Julie Budd to Musica
From: Clark Besch
13. Re: New to musica - Melinda Marx
From: Norm D.
14. Re: The Man From Nazareth
From: Barry in Minneapolis
15. Re: Covers of "The Thing"
From: Stewart Mason
16. Re: "Breaking Away" or "I'm Breaking Away"
From: Joe Nelson
17. Re: John Paul Joneses
From: Joe Nelson
18. Re: Now Playing In Musica
From: Tom Diehl
19. Re: Covers of "The Thing"
From: Gary H
20. Re: John Paul Joneses
From: Gary Myers
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 00:01:22 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Re: Katz / Kassenetz
M.G. Still wrote:
> Would you know anything about a group called "JOHN" which seems
> to be a 10cc group? I have a promo 45 on Cotillion (45-44102)
> that sounds really 10cc and is wonderfully over-the-top Christian
> junk food music!
> Title is "MAN FROM NAZARETH" (credited to Davidge, Stewart, Godley
> & Creme) and it is "A Strawberry Production" recorded at Strawberry
> Studios, Manchester, England.
"John" wasn't a group but a solo singer named John Paul Jones
- if I remember rightly that's how the UK issued was credited.
I think he was Australian.
The reason for the name change in the US is probably because
Cotillion was a division of Atlantic so they didn't want anybody
to think it was John Paul Jones of Led Zeppelin.
Davie
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:08:46 -0000
From: John DeAngelis
Subject: Re: something to SMiLe about
Phil X Milstein wrote:
> Wasn't Mike Love's primary objection to "Smile" that he
> didn't hear any hits in it?...
Hi Phil:
Well, I'm sure he didn't think it sounded commercial, but he was
also concerned about singing lyrics that he didn't understand.
I'm no Mike Love fan, but according to Brian, the only Beach Boys
that were enthusiastic about "Smile" were Dennis and Al.
I'm smiling too!
John DeAngelis
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:34:49 -0500
From: Barry
Subject: Re: Katz / Kassenetz
M.G.Still:
> Would you know anything about a group called "JOHN" which seems
> to be a 10cc group? I have a promo 45 on Cotillion (45-44102)
> that sounds really 10cc and is wonderfully over-the-top Christian
> junk food music!
The single was also issued in the UK by John Paul Joans, and in
the US as "Jon" and also "J.P. Jones"....both on the Cotillion 45.
I'm not certain if John Paul Joans is really John Paul Jones, arranger
for Donovan before joining Led Zepplin, or not, but all of the music
was written and performed by Eric Stewart, Lol Crème and Kevin Godley,
all who became 2/3's of 10cc.
Barry
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:33:23 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Re: Caleen Anderegg?
Tom K. White wrote:
> .....I found an excellent girl group style dancer I was unaware
> of titled Fool's Paradise, by Caleen Anderegg....The credits
> appear to be (as usual with these things, the typeface is tiny)
> written by R.H. Brams, Jr., produced by Robin "Hood" Brams.
Tom, haven't heard this and can't give you much info. on it.
"R H Brams" - that's Robin Hood Brians, a one-time rockabilly singer
who became a studio owner/producer in Tyler, Texas in the mid-60's.
His best known work is probably with Mouse and The Traps, a Texan
band who had a hit with the Dylan meets garage "A Public Execution"
on Fraternity.
Doesn't really help you with "Fool's Paradise" but it gives you
a probable location origin for the record.
Davie
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 01:17:21 +0200
From: Jens Koch
Subject: Re: The Man from Nazareth
From: "M.G. Still":
> Would you know anything about a group called "JOHN" <...>
> Title is "MAN FROM NAZARETH" (credited to Davidge, Stewart,
> Godley & Creme)
A guy called John Paul Jones had a hit in, I think, 1971 or
thereabouts, with "The Man from Nazareth". His name conflicted
with the well-known guitarist, so he had to change the surname
to "Joans", and when that didn't satisfy his namesake, he finally
became known as "John". And then he disappeared without a trace
from the English and European scene ...
Jens
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 05:02:11 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Smile CD Question/Observation
It seems to me that the vocal on the current version
of 'You Are My Sunshine' is a 1967 Brian vocal - wasn't
there one on a bootleg? If it's not, then it's a darn
good imitation of 1967 BW. Anyone else notice this? Or
am I hearing things?
Mark F.
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 04:52:48 -0000
From: Chris
Subject: Re: new to musica
Phil X:
> Melinda Marx, singing "Is This What I Get For Loving You Baby?"
> live on the June 23, 1965 episode of Shindig.
I recall seeing a clip of her singing this song and being
introduced by Groucho - was it on "Hollywood Palace"?
Was she singing live then too?
- Chris
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:43:17 -0000
From: Wes Smith
Subject: Re: Discoveries Magazine
Bob Celli wrote:
> I just got the word from Bobby Vee that Discoveries is doing
> an extensive article on him in an upcoming issue, probably
> for the beginning of next year. His picture will also be
> featured on the cover. I'm hoping this marks a change in
> direction for the magazine, with artists from the fifties and
> sixties getting more spots on the front page, and also inside.
Bob, I second your motion for more 50's and early 60's articles
in Discoveries magazine. My latest renewal is about to run out
and have been thinking of giving it up because there is so little
interest for me in it anymore. At least it will be nice to see the
BOBBY VEE Article!
Wes Smith
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:39:38 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: The Man From Nazareth
After a bit more digging it turns out the singer's name was
John Paul Joans - UK release was on RAK 107 - Mickie Most's
label.
A few 10cc websites say that JPJ was an English comedian.
ASCAP lists the writers of "The Man From Nazareth" as
Godley, Creme, Stewart and "Reginald John Davidge" which is
more than likely the real name of John Paul Joans / John.
Davie
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:49:43 +0200
From: Jens Koch
Subject: Re: Smile CD Question/Observation
From: "Mark Frumento":
> It seems to me that the vocal on the current version
> of 'You Are My Sunshine' is a 1967 Brian vocal - wasn't
> there one on a bootleg? If it's not, then it's a darn
> good imitation of 1967 BW. Anyone else notice this? Or
> am I hearing things?
I don't know anything about what you're hearing, but the
'66-7 vocal was by Dennis ...
Jens
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:55:05 +0200
From: Frank Jastfelder
Subject: Re: Lewis & Clarke Expedition
Mike Dugo:
> What is the general consensus on The Lewis & Clarke Expedition?
> Considering their pedigree (Michael Martin Murphy and Boomer
> Castleman were members, and Mike Nesmith was involved) they have
> been almost completely forgotten. They appeared in the movie For
> Singles Only and on I Dream Of Jeannie..........
I really like "Why Need They Pretend?" from the film "For singles
only". It's a great softrock tune with a touch of bossa. Arranged
and conducted by Shorty Rogers. It's sad that there's no soundtrack
to the film. BTW, is it worth checking out? At least the title
sounds promising. (although I have to confess that I'm married)
Frank J.
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 15:52:12 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Julie Budd to Musica
Hi, I finally got my vinyl transfer stuff working and have
posted old news, Julie Budd's "All's Quiet on West 23rd Street"
45 from early 1968. Had to squeeze this on Musica before the gap
disappeared!! Hope whoever wanted this still needs it. Enjoy!
Clark
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 05:32:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Norm D.
Subject: Re: New to musica - Melinda Marx
Chris wrote:
> I recall seeing a clip of her singing this song and being
> introduced by Groucho - was it on "Hollywood Palace"?
> Was she singing live then too?
Well, she hasn't got her father's voice, that's for sure,
but did she have his looks? I'd love to see a photo of her.
Can anyone oblige?
Norm D.
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:11:51 -0500
From: Barry in Minneapolis
Subject: Re: The Man From Nazareth
If anyone's interested, I have prepared an Excel spreadsheet
of all of the pre-10cc recordings and productions....including
all recordings that any of the four member were involved with.
It's pretty complete.
Email me offlist and I'll attach it for you.
There's lots of really interesting records listed (including
The Mindbenders, all Graham Gouldman's compositions, and all
the 'Strawberry' productions.
Barry in Minneapolis
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 12:54:17 -0400
From: Stewart Mason
Subject: Re: Covers of "The Thing"
Ray Howard asks:
> Hello, I wonder if anyone knows of an early-mid 1960s cover version
> of Phil Harris "The Thing", possibly British? It was the rage in
> Melbourne, Florida for a while, inspiring a DJ contest for pictures
> of what The Thing looked like. Thanx.
Bill Buchanan (formerly of Buchanan and Goodman proto-sampling fame)
released a cover of "The Thing" circa 1961 on Gone Records, using a
Witch Doctor/Chipmunks-like speeded-up vocal on the chorus. Was that
the one?
S
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:57:31 +0100
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Re: "Breaking Away" or "I'm Breaking Away"
Jeff M:
> I think the song (Breaking Away) you're looking for is by the
> group, Balance. Peppy Castro, formerly of the Blues Magoos,
> was in this group. It hit the charts in July of 1981.
Mike the Bass Player:
> Jeff, Yes, that's it! Thank you!
> Next....to find the record (or mp3).
Mike, contact me offlist and I'll hook you up.
Joe Nelson
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:08:34 -0400
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Re: John Paul Joneses
M.G. Still wrote:
> Would you know anything about a group called "JOHN" which seems
> to be a 10cc group? I have a promo 45 on Cotillion (45-44102)
> that sounds really 10cc and is wonderfully over-the-top Christian
> junk food music!
> Title is "MAN FROM NAZARETH" (credited to Davidge, Stewart, Godley
> & Creme) and it is "A Strawberry Production" recorded at Strawberry
> Studios, Manchester, England.
Davie Gordon:
> "John" wasn't a group but a solo singer named John Paul Jones
> - if I remember rightly that's how the UK issued was credited.
> I think he was Australian.
> The reason for the name change in the US is probably because
> Cotillion was a division of Atlantic so they didn't want anybody
> to think it was John Paul Jones of Led Zeppelin.
That or the fact the future Led Zep bassist/keyboardist was a well
known session musician long before he joined the group.
Even so, it gives rise to the limitless possibilities of a UK
supergroup featuring (in no particular order):
Paul Jones
John Paul Jones
John Paul Joans
and of course
John Paul Georgeandringo!
Jens:
> A guy called John Paul Jones had a hit in, I think, 1971 or
> thereabouts, with "The Man from Nazareth". His name conflicted
> with the well-known guitarist, so he had to change the surname
> to "Joans", and when that didn't satisfy his namesake, he finally
> became known as "John". And then he disappeared without a trace
> from the English and European scene ...
And here I was thinking the Man from Nazareth was Jesus, and John
was just taggin' along...
Joe Nelson
(taggin' along since 1982)
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:51:53 -0000
From: Tom Diehl
Subject: Re: Now Playing In Musica
Previously:
> Last, "Good Morning Love" by the Bleus. They became the Electric
> Hand Band when Diamond became Certron in 1970. They had a website
> but it's gone now. They had regrouped and everything...does
> anyone know what happened to them?
M. G. Still:
> Is this the same BLEUS who recorded a 45 on AMY Records 11038?
> Cuts are "Leavin' Lisa" (Co-written by Eddie Hinton) and "Milk
> and Honey". Both sides were produced by Eddie Hinton.
Yes, it is the same Bleus. Eddie Hinton co-wrote Good Morning,
Love (with R. Gregg), but its B side, What'cha Gonna Do was
written by D. Fritts and J. Reid. Eddie co-produced both sides
with Paul Ballenger. If you have the Amy single please play it
to musica, I'd love to hear it.
--Tom Diehl
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:46:38 EDT
From: Gary H
Subject: Re: Covers of "The Thing"
Ray Howard:
> Hello, I wonder if anyone knows of an early-mid 1960s cover
> version of Phil Harris "The Thing", possibly British? It was
> the rage in Melbourne, Florida for a while, inspiring a DJ
> contest for pictures of what The Thing looked like. Thanx.
I have no idea if this is the correct answer, but I have a
copy of this song on 45 by Rolf Harris.
Gary H
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:40:21 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: John Paul Joneses
Joe Nelson:
> Paul Jones
> John Paul Jones
> John Paul Joans
> and of course
> John Paul Georgeandringo!
There was a Wisconsin band (yes, there's that Wisc. stuff again!)
called John Paul & the Liberators, which was a play on
Lennon-McCartney along with Paul Revere & the Raiders.
gem
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