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There are 23 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Jimmy Peterson aka James Butler
From: Lady Raine
2. Patty Duke
From: Country Paul
3. Re: Claire Francis @ musica
From: John Hamilton
4. Re: Indian Reservation lead vox
From: jrnelsonsr@hvc.rr.com
5. Nancy Sinatra`s Spector soundalike and Spector cover.
From: Peter Andreason
6. Re: Russ Titelman
From: Martin Roberts
7. S'pop remembers Dave Godin, Greg Shaw and John Peel
From: S'pop Projects
8. Re: Nesmith, Lindsay and Others
From: Austin Roberts
9. We Wrote 'Em & We Play 'Em
From: Michael
10. The Madisons
From: Rob Pingel
11. John Beland on Musica
From: Clark Besch
12. Beach Boys Monument to Be Dedicated
From: Phil Milstein
13. Marianne Faithful - Radio Interview + Lou Goldman
From: Norm D.
14. He's So Fine
From: Paul Urbahns
15. Terry Knight killed
From: Eddy
16. Re: Claire Francis @ musica
From: Claire Francis
17. The Velvelettes
From: Frank Murphy
18. Uncle Lar in Hall of Fame/Terry Knight dies
From: Clark Besch
19. Look At Me Girl
From: Bob Celli
20. Re: Patty Duke
From: Austin Roberts
21. Re: Merseybeats USA release
From: Tony Sanchez
22. Re: "Look At Me Girl"
From: S.J. Dibai
23. Neil Sedaka Appreciation Society
From: Dan White
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 09:51:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Lady Raine
Subject: Re: Jimmy Peterson aka James Butler
James Holvay:
> Martin: Where do I start? Jimmy Peterson & James Butler were one and
> the same person. He was a singer, entertainer, songwriter and a
> pretty creative guy in general......
James, or anybody else, if you would like to know what became of
Jimmy Peterson aka James Butler, I would love to tell you off-list.
Lady Raine
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:28:54 -0500
From: Country Paul
Subject: Patty Duke
>From the Associated Press....
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COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho - Oscar-winning actress Patty Duke will undergo single
heart bypass surgery Wednesday at Kootenai Medical Center.
Duke, 57, won a best-supporting actress Oscar in 1963 for her portrayal of
Helen Keller in "The Miracle Worker." She won an Emmy Award in 1980 for her
role as Keller's teacher, Annie Sullivan, in the TV movie.
She is expected to make a successful recovery, hospital spokeswoman Lisa
Johnson said Tuesday. Duke will be under the care of Dr. Robert Burnett at
the facility's North Idaho Heart Center.
Last spring, she was admitted to the center for insertion of a stent in one
of her arteries to improve blood flow.
Duke moved to the Coeur d'Alene area in the early 1990s, where she lives
with her husband, Mike Pearce.
Her sons Mackenzie and Sean Astin are actors. Sean Astin starred in "The
Lord of the Rings" movies.
Duke played identical teenage cousins, Patty and Cathy Lane, on the '60s
comedy, "The Patty Duke Show," and won Emmys for "My Sweet Charlie" and
"Captains and the Kings."
Earlier this year, she received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
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Country Paul
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 01:01:58 -0000
From: John Hamilton
Subject: Re: Claire Francis @ musica
"If You Don't Know" is a melancholy gem, a very nice vocal. I'm a
total sucker for the vibes and quirky organ sounds at the intro.
(Not to mention those backup chicks.)
John Hamilton
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:16:51 -0500
From: jrnelsonsr@hvc.rr.com
Subject: Re: Indian Reservation lead vox
Austin Roberts:
>
>Joe Nelson wrote:
>> It's definitely him: in particular the way he inflects "so proud to live"
>> couldn't be anyone else. I wasn't even aware he was in the group
>> until someone pointed out to me he was the singer on that.
>
>OK Joe, prepare to weep. I just spoke with Freddy Weller, who told me that
>it was definitely Mark Lindsay who sang the lead on Indian Reservation.
Sounds like Freddy to me, doesn't sound anything like Mark. I'll see
if I can get a hold of Fred Bronson at Billboard - he credits Freddy
in The Billboard Book of #1 Hits and I'm sure he'd appreciate the
correction.
Joe Nelson
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:14:20 -0000
From: Peter Andreason
Subject: Nancy Sinatra`s Spector soundalike and Spector cover.
Nancy Sinatra's new album (sancd302)(No title) has a cover of Ronnie
Spector's "Baby Please Donīt Go" (her b-side from "Say Goodbye To
Hollywood"), and a very interesting Spector soundalike called "Don't
Let Him Waste Your Time" which sounds a lot like Dion's "Only You
Know" from the "Born To Be With You" album.
Peter Andreason
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 18:56:48 -0000
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re: Russ Titelman
Good to read Declan Meehan's letter in admiration of the songwriting
abilities of Russ Titelman, he'll find many on the site who share his
view; Mick Patrick for one. Back in the olden days when Mick ran
'Philately' and 'That Will Never Happen Again' magazines, Russ was
the subject of a discographical piece, well worth hunting down. I've
managed to squeeze one of Russ's first compositions to musica. Co-
written with Steve Gold it features Al Kooper's favourite chanteuse
Wendy Hill with "Since You Went Away" on ERA 3055 from '61. Nice bit
of early teen angst but deserving of its b-side status. The up-tempo
flip, "Without Your Love" clinches my vote via the wonderful bells.
Martin
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 00:48:10 -0000
From: S'pop Projects
Subject: S'pop remembers Dave Godin, Greg Shaw and John Peel
Three obituaries have been added to the S'pop Remembers
page. Please take the time to read them:
Dave Godin:
http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/DGodobit.htm
Greg Shaw:
http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/GSobit.htm
John Peel:
http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/JPobit.htm
R.I.P.
The S'pop Team
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 22:34:17 EST
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: Nesmith, Lindsay and Others
Larry Lapka:
> Gary Lewis: While he still isn't much of a singer, he kept
> the place entertained. He was hoarse, but the deepness of
> his voice now gave him the ability to pull off "Sealed With
> A Kiss" unlike his performance on record. I was amazed!
Wasn't that Brian Hyland? My friend Peter Udell (written with
Gary Geld) always liked Brian's vocal on it.
Austin Roberts
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:18:14 -0000
From: Michael
Subject: We Wrote 'Em & We Play 'Em
I'm happy to oblige Phil and anyone else who is interested in the
rest of this compilation. I've never quite figured out the posting
to musica bit and am swamped at the moment getting ready for the
WFMU record fair, where (by the way) I'll be sharing 2 tables with
fellow Spectropopper John DeAngelis and the lovely Keith D'Arcy
(also intermittently an S-popper). Hope to see Country Paul (who
has frequented this wing-ding in the past) and any of the rest of
you there! Anyway, I'll start recording and eventually will come up
with some/all of the other tracks.
Although I am a very infrequent poster, let me take this opportunity
to thank those of you who make this group so exceptional. Spectropop
has more wheat and less chaff than any other Internet music group
I've ever subscribed to!
thanks,
Michael
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:09:40 -0000
From: Rob Pingel
Subject: The Madisons
Does anyone have any information on the members of The Madisons?
Recently discovered their single on MGM, and was blown away by
the song "Looking for a True Love". Written by Larry Santos.
Sounds like it was tailored for the 4 Seasons. One great hook
after another. Flip side, "Cheryl Ann" also written by Santos.
Rob Pingel
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 06:14:59 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: John Beland on Musica
Hi, I have oft spoken of John Beland's great Ranwood 1969 single,
"Baby You Come 'Rollin 'Cross my Mind", playing it to musica a
few months ago. By request from Country Paul (months ago, also),
I finally found the tape I have of a rare acetate of early John
Beland. I think Austin Roberts and Johnny Tillotson will find it
interesting. Johnny, are you still around S'pop?
John Beland played with tons of talented acts and has a great
website at http://members.chello.at/thomas.aubrunner/beland.htm
When I first read through John's website, I was amazed by his
"activities" over the years. I found songs I knew already like
"Rollin Cross.." and "Banjo Man", but found no mention of a song
I had taped off American Bandstand's "Rate-a-record" segment on
the 2/17/68 show titled "Wake Up Sweet Mary". I emailed John
telling him how I had searched for this 45 since 1968, never seeing
even a listing for it. His response was astonishing to me. He emailed
back that it was just an acetate mailed to Dick Clark and never even
got released. Being that it was one of his earliest (possibly his
first!) recordings, he thought it not much good. I told him I really
liked it alot. I kinda doubt he has a copy, from what I gathered.
Anyway, I finally found the tape and transferred it so all at S'pop
can hear what a cool 19 year old John Beland sounded like in 1968.
Al Kooper might also get a kick out of the song's "Like a Rolling
Stone" keyboard licks! Altho' it seems to steal from that song's
style (organ, lyrics, harmonica) at the beginning, it soon turns
into a really pleasing pop masterpiece! Love the cold ending too.
It sounds like they might have speeded John's vocal up some (Andy
Kim style), but his voice is pretty much that way, so I'm not sure
about it. Because I recorded several songs of the show, I corrected
the speed, so this should be the correct speed. I was excited to
re-live this gem again.
By the way, what else was on that February 17 show that I taped
off?? From the top 10 board, #1: "Love is Blue". John Beland's
competition in the 'rate a record' segment was Texas' Four Blazers'
"Mr. Ticket Man". I really loved this pop song too and tracked it
down a few years later. They at least had a Billboard ad for the
song! Then, the guest of the day, the Music Explosion, doing
"Little Bit of Soul". The Spotlight dance song, "Love is all Around".
Then, "I Can Take or Leave Your Lovin'"--classic Hermits! Guest
number two, Etta James, doing "Tell Mama"! Lastly, "We Can Fly"
by the Cowsills. Talk about a great show! How 'bout "American
Dreams" just showing this whole show instead???
Clark
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 16:46:51 -0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Beach Boys Monument to Be Dedicated
Beach Boys Monument to Be Dedicated
by The Associated Press
November 3, 2004
HAWTHORNE, Calif. (AP) -- Just a few miles from the surf and
sand the Beach Boys celebrated, the city will dedicate a
monument where Brian, Carl and Dennis Wilson grew up.
California Historical Landmark No. 1041 will be dedicated on
May 20.
The Wilson home was razed to make room for the Century
Freeway, so the monument will sit at the end of dead-end 119th
Street next to a sound wall built to mute traffic noise.
The effort to get landmark status for the Wilson home site was
led by Harry Jarnagan, a construction engineer and Beach Boys
fan from Tracy, Calif. In August, the California Historical
Landmark Commission approved Jarnagan's application.
The landmark status committee held a design competition for
the monument and 16 entries were received. Jarnagan said most
proposals, which can be viewed at http://www.beachboyslandmark.org
feature images of surfboards, waves or musical notes sculpted from
brick, bronze and granite.
The winning entry will be chosen by a panel of Hawthorne
officials and Wilson family members, he said. The monument
will incorporate a bronze plaque designating the place as a
historical landmark, and donated bricks, which have been
inscribed with the names of people who have donated $100 or
more to the project, Jarnagan said.
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 09:30:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Norm D.
Subject: Marianne Faithful - Radio Interview + Lou Goldman
There's a radio interview with Marianne Faithful this Saturday,
November 6th, 19.00 hrs GMT, on BBC London http://www.bbc.co.uk -
follow the links to "listen live". It will be archived for a week,
possibly longer, under the name of the presenter, Gary Crowley.
There's also an archived interview with Andrew Lou Goldman who,
no doubt, will get one or two mentions from Marianne:
http://tinyurl.com/5kzql
Regards
Norm D.
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 19:29:09 EST
From: Paul Urbahns
Subject: He's So Fine
Billy wrote:
> How the backing track wound up in F-G-G's hands for the
> Angels LP track is anyone's guess.
I thought it was covered here but I may have read it someplace
else, but it's worth repeating. Apparently The Tokens and F-G-G
had offices in the same building and the Tokens gave them the
stereo backtrack so the song could be included on the Angels
album, therefore generating more publishing revenue for the
Tokens' company.
Paul Urbahns
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 07:42:14 +0100
From: Eddy
Subject: Terry Knight killed
Terry Knight & The Pack frontman, Richard Terrance Knight, who
also managed Grand Funk Railroad, was stabbed to death at his
Temple, Texas, home.
Knight lived at Chapell Hill Apartments with his daughter and her
boyfriend, Donald Alan Fair, 26, who has been charged with murder.
Eddy
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:48:06 EST
From: Claire Francis
Subject: Re: Claire Francis @ musica
John Hamilton:
> "If You Don't Know" is a melancholy gem, a very nice vocal.
> I'm a total sucker for the vibes and quirky organ sounds at
> the intro. (Not to mention those backup chicks.)
Hi John,
Thank you for your email and I appreciate the comments. I believe
I used the Breakaways for back-up chicks on "I Just Wanna Dance"
(playing in musica now). As far as the back-up chicks for "If You
Don't Know", honestly I can't say for sure. I remember one or two
of my sessions the Breakaways were not available.
I also I used the Breakaways if my memory serves me (no "plank"
please if I'm wrong) on the Sonny Childe album that I cut of all
Sam Cooke songs. I would sure love to get a copy of that! I haven't
heard that one in 32 years either. I'm buyin' folks, if anyone
knows where I can get that album please.
Love & Light,
Claire Francis
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:55:15 +0000
From: Frank Murphy
Subject: The Velvelettes
The Velvelettes The Motown Anthology Motown 980 937-2
This is a collection of 48 tracks, the majority not previously
available in the versions included on this double CD. About twelve
of the cuts were issued on the Best of The Velvelettes released
in the US in 1989. There are no original Mono single mixes of The
Velvelettes A sides on this album. Their 'hits' are represented by
alternative takes or stereo versions.
This is a great album, which covers the period from 1963/67, and
ranges from the early Motown girl group sound of Selfish Lover
(Stevenson/Whitfield) to late period sophisticated Motown with
'Bring Back The Sunshine' (Ashford/Simpson).
I'm bouncing through the tracks as I type this and an unreleased
"A Love So Deep Inside" is rocking the speakers with a great four
on the floor beat. This is bound to be cut to acetate for Northern
Soul DJs. Here's a Shangri-Las' spoken intro and advice for girls
on "He's The One". Smokey Robinson experiments with the rhythm
track on "Something's Happening" and, even though it's Caldin
'Carolyn' Gill singing lead, you can tell she listened carefully
as Smokey sang it to her.
There's another gem in "(We've got) Honey Love" written by Cal's
husband-to-be Richard Street (and Sylvia Moy)
The five live tracks are taken from The Battle of the Stars and
are not particularly well recorded or mixed but the vocals are
great and you can hear why the Velvelettes beat out the Supremes
on their own Detroit turf.
To complete the set there are four French language versions of
Motown songs including three the Velvelettes don't appear to have
been recorded in English. "Puisque Je sais Qu'il Est a Mois", "Tu
Perds Le Plus Mervieileux Garcon Du monde" (the only HDH song on
the album) and "Je Veux Crier" ["My Foolish Heart (Keeps Hanging
On To A Memory)"]. I am sure your school French will enable you to
translate the other titles.
The sleeve notes are written by The Velvelettes and I think you
should read them when you buy the album rather than me copying
them out, but Berry Gordy's thinking behind the above recordings
should be quoted:
"Berry discovered Cal had majored in French and spoke French quite
well. He teamed the five girls with a French producer, Pierre Berjot.
Berry was very fascinated and took great pleasure in listening to
Pierre and Cal converse in French. The four songs showcased Cal's
ability as a lead singer to record in French"
Of course, what did Berry do with the recordings? Well nothing, as
they were never released not even in Motown-mad France. I don't know
why The Velvelettes did not have an album issued in their '60s heyday
but Motown has certainly made up for it now. The girls appeared in
England recently and I gather they looked like a set sexy aunties
glammed up for a party night out. This is a great album for Motown
fans, Girl group enthusiasts and Northern Soul fanatics.
FrankM
reflections on northern soul Saturday's two thirty pm
http://www.radiomagnetic.com
or listen to an archive show
http://www.radiomagnetic.com/archive/rnb.php
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 19:09:43 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Uncle Lar in Hall of Fame/Terry Knight dies
Two '60s Djs that went different directions seem to be going that
way still:
Larry Lujack of Chicago radio fame that many of us here heard
and loved (some still may on his current Chicago show) will be
inducted into the Broadcasting Hall of Fame Nov. 6 in Chicago.
I am trying to find out if it will be broadcast on the WLS website.
It was 2 years ago when Dick bartley was inducted. Lar has been an
inspiration to me all my life. Congrats!!
On the other side, Terry Knight (of Terry Knight and the Pack and
Grand Funk Railroad fame) was stabbed numerous times Monday night
in Temple, Texas and died. Terry had quite a wild life and was
involved in many recordings. He was first on WJBK Detroit in 1963
as "Jack the Bellboy" as a DJ before he stepped out from behind the
radio mic to become lead singer of Terry Knight and the Pack. They
had some fine recordings, but Terry was a bit unliked over the years
in his dealings with Grand Funk and all, but that's not for here.
Maybe some of you have some stories you could share off-list??
Clark
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 19:30:30 -0000
From: Bob Celli
Subject: Look At Me Girl
> Oddly enough, when I found the Bobby Vee 45, I only knew the
> song as done by the Texas garage band The Playboys of Edinburgh,
> so the original Vee version was a recent treat for me.
Margaret,
Actually it was Bobby who covered the Playboys of Edinburgh's version!
Bob Celli
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 20:15:36 EST
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: Patty Duke
Country Paul:
> Duke played identical teenage cousins, Patty and Cathy Lane,
> on the '60s comedy, "The Patty Duke Show," and won Emmys for
> "My Sweet Charlie" and "Captains and the Kings".
> Earlier this year, she received a star on the Hollywood Walk
> of Fame.
You know,whether she could really sing or not,there was a certain
magic to Patty's "Please Don't Just Stand There". Hope her surgery
goes smoothly. Great actress.
Austin Roberts
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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:23:22 -0000
From: Tony Sanchez
Subject: Re: Merseybeats USA release
Don:
> I just found a compilation CD called "Fuzz Flaykes and Shakes
> Volume 3" that has "Nobody Loves Me That Way" by the Merseybeats
> USA.
Hi Don, it's Tony the Tyger, but with some bad news...
While the quality of the track is superb, we had to pull it at
the last minute due to non-responsive publishers of the track.
We had the deal all wrapped up and they somehow thought that
such a garage comp would sell millions of copies (due to the
NRBQ connection) and decided to charge a 5 figure sum to license
the track. So we had to delete it from the tracks at the very
last minute. Unfortunately, it was too late to modify the artwork.
So the track, although listed, is not included in the purchased
CD. Sorry man, it was a huge knife in my back when we had to pull
it. I was seriously bummed as it's a huge fave.
The Soul Inc. we licensed before their comp came out but the
sound quality on FF&S for both sides is top notch (Vol 1 and 2).
When I put out the compilations, my goal was to have superb sound
and accurate info, using the Teenage Shutdown series as an example.
We always try to license the tracks legitimately as well.
Most Groovily Tony the Tyger
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:57:50 -0000
From: S.J. Dibai
Subject: Re: "Look At Me Girl"
Margaret Still:
> Oddly enough, when I found the Bobby Vee 45, I only knew the
> song as done by the Texas garage band The Playboys of Edinburgh,
> so the original Vee version was a recent treat for me.
I haven't heard the P. of E. version, but theirs was actually the
original. Vee said it was a regional hit for them when he covered
it (see the liners of his "Legendary Masters Series" CD). A funny
aside about this tune: the writer is James Williams, but the
aforementioned CD package credits him as "J. Williams." Apparently,
somebody misunderstood this--I remember seeing the All Music Guide
tracklist for this CD a few years ago, and it listed Swamp Dogg (aka
Jerry Williams) as the composer of this song!
Hey, why not, he wrote for Gene Pitney, didn't he?
S.J. Dibai
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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:58:44 -0000
From: Dan White
Subject: Neil Sedaka Appreciation Society
Hello Neil Sedaka fans. I've created a great new MSN group called
'The Neil Sedaka Appreciation Society'...I think it's the no.1
Neil Sedaka resource on the web, with 24/7 news updates, messages,
pictures and oldies links. Hope you all check it out at
http://groups.msn.com/theneilsedakaappreciationsociety/
This Spectropop group is fantastic!!!!
All the best and keep on rockin!!
Dan White
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