Spectropop - Digest Number 1731

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• Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004

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There are 16 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Tribute Band???
           From: Howard Earnshaw 
      2. Re: Spoonful / Box Tops / Bobby Gregg
           From: Dennis Diken 
      3. Re: The Box Tops' Bitter End
           From: Bill Craig 
      4. Re: Manchester Playboys
           From: Howard Earnshaw 
      5. Re: Eydie Gorme Goin' Back to musica
           From: John Hamilton 
      6. Re: Goin' Back versions / Goldie? & The Gingerbreads
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      7. Re: "Goin' Back"
           From: Steve Harvey 
      8. Artie Schroek
           From: Norm D. Plume 
      9. Re: Ed Sullivan "live"
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     10. Re: Michael Brown
           From: Austin Roberts 
     11. Bitter End TV Show
           From: Clark Besch 
     12. Re: Alice Wonder Land
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     13. Re: "Goin' Back"
           From: David Walker 
     14. Sandie Shaw recording of "Be my baby"
           From: Peter Andreasen 
     15. Artie Schroek
           From: John DeAngelis 
     16. Re: Keith Allison request
           From: Michael T 


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Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 04:35:29 -0500
   From: Howard Earnshaw 
Subject: Tribute Band???


Felt I had to mention an ad I saw in the local press for a venue in 
Brighouse (West Yorkshire, England) for a band called - "Blood, Sweat 
& Beers" (R'n'B band). Don't know if they are actual 'tribute band', 
but thought Mr Kooper would approve the name :-)

regards.. Howard





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Message: 2         
   Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:45:45 -0500
   From: Dennis Diken 
Subject: Re: Spoonful / Box Tops / Bobby Gregg


Steve Harvey wrote:
> Down the road from my current abode is Frank Pingatore, Jodimar
> producer and writer of "Clarabella", who caught the Spoonful at Bell
> Sound Studios in the 60s. Said they were lowering a mike down the
> elevator shaft for echo. I think it was for "Summer In The City".

Great to hear Spoonful come up in discussion. When I interviewed John
Sebastian and Roy Halee for the BMG Hums CD reissue liner notes a few 
years back they both told me that SITC was cut at Columbia's midtown 
7th Ave studio. I understand they recorded at both Bell Sound and 
Columbia a lot.

re: The Boxtops and studio players. As far as I know those sides were 
cut at Chips Moman's American Studio in Memphis with the house band 
that included guitarist Reggie Young, Bobby Wood and Bobby Emmons on 
keys, Tommy Cogbill and Mike Leech on bass and Gene Chrisman on drums. 
Gene once told me that the only Boxtops track he didn't play on was 
"The Letter" (perhaps the group cut that one themselves?). this is the 
same band/studio that gave us Dusty In Memphis, "Suspicious Minds" era 
Elvis, "Hooked On A Feeling" by BJ Thomas, the classic Sandy Posey 
records, "Sweet Caroline" by Neil Diamond, some great King Curtis stuff. 
this band also worked with Aretha Franklin in NYC on "Natural Woman" 
and some others. I know I'm overlooking some other important tracks by 
this incredible band.

Did anyone ever find out more info on drummer Bobby Gregg? I believe he
played on a fair amount of Cameo/Parkway sessions. (Sorry if this was
covered already, I've been away!). Would love to know more about which
records he played on.

thanks!

Dennis Diken







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Message: 3         
   Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 03:24:35 -0000
   From: Bill Craig 
Subject: Re: The Box Tops' Bitter End


I remwmber a few years ago reading in a book titled "It Came from 
Memphis" that in the'60's a touring version of The Boxtops was sent 
out on the road but were not allowed to play on the records. Whether 
Alex Chilton went on the road with this band I don't remember.
In the early '80's I saw "The Boxtops" play a club in Paterson NJ 
called The Outrigger.I didn't think that any of these guys had 
anything to do with the hit making group. Certainly the singer was 
not Chilton who post Big Star was either doing his punky solo thing 
at the time or else inactive at that point.

Speaking of Lypsyncing on tv, in one of Andrew Oldham's books he 
mentions the Stones Lipsyncing on The Ed Sullivan Show. My 
recollection is that on Sullivan at least the lead vocal was always 
live, even tho at some point I think the backing instrumental track 
and occasionally some of the backing vocals were on tape.
Can anyone confirm this from an insider perspective?

Bill Craig








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Message: 4         
   Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:41:43 -0500
   From: Howard Earnshaw 
Subject: Re: Manchester Playboys


Sean wrote:
> Does anyone have a copy of the Manchester Playboys' "I Feel >Good"?
> If so, please contact me directly off-list, Thanks.

We ran a feature on Manchester's Playboys in latest 'Soul Up North'
very expensive 7" (it's on the mag's issue tape tho'). Contact me off 
list if you'd like more info.

All the best,
Howard (editor - Soul Up North fanzine)





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Message: 5         
   Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 06:37:51 -0800 (PST)
   From: John Hamilton 
Subject: Re: Eydie Gorme Goin' Back to musica


Eydie's version of "Goin' Back" is pleasant, very Vegas. Dusty's is 
in a league of its own (how many songs make you misty every time you 
hear them?) but this gives it an upbeat spin that, surprisingly, 
doesn't do the lyric any harm. I'd love to hear "I Want to Stay Here", 
which I believe Dusty later covered on her Pet Shop Boys album.

John Hamilton





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Message: 6         
   Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:13:55 +0000
   From: Phil X Milstein 
Subject: Re: Goin' Back versions / Goldie? & The Gingerbreads


Country Paul wrote:
> I tried to like Eydie Gorme's "Goin' Back," but I'm afraid 
> I find it totally soul-less.

Genya Ravan released a nice version, billed simply as "Goldie," 
contemporaneous with Dusty's. Yet another pseudonymous version 
was by Larry Lurex, aka Freddie Mercury (aka Farouk Bulsara).

I like how in Goldie & The Gingerbreads, "Goldie" was a brunette, and
the one blonde in the group, guitarist Carole MacDonald, wasn't named 
"Goldie." Photographic explanation/verification of what I mean at Genya/
Goldie's site, http://www.genyaravan.com/goldie.html , with another cool 
shot of them, at http://www.aurealm.com/goldie.htm . Both accompany 
interesting bios of the band.

--Phil M.





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Message: 7         
   Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:48:03 -0800 (PST)
   From: Steve Harvey 
Subject: Re: "Goin' Back"


Norm D. Plume wrote:
> ... one other version (of "Goin' Back"), by The Byrds, which is 
> full of jingle-jangle, soulful introspection. 

It was part of the reason David Crosby left the band. I have a tape 
of the Byrds live (Monterey Pop?) where McGuinn makes a crack about 
"going back to the days of Pepperidge Farm cookies". I vote for the 
Byrds over Dusty Buffalo Springfield.





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Message: 8         
   Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:25:33 -0800 (PST)
   From: Norm D. Plume 
Subject: Artie Schroek


Steve Harvey wrote:
> I have a single by Artie Schroek on Columbia of "Coconut Grove".

I'd LOVE to hear that one!!  Any chance of a Musica post? 
P-l-e-a-s-e.

Norm D.

 






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Message: 9         
   Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:28:26 +0000
   From: Phil X Milstein 
Subject: Re: Ed Sullivan "live"


Bill Craig wrote:
> Speaking of Lypsyncing on tv, in one of Andrew Oldham's books he
> mentions the Stones Lipsyncing on The Ed Sullivan Show. My
> recollection is that on Sullivan at least the lead vocal was always
> live, even tho at some point I think the backing instrumental track
> and occasionally some of the backing vocals were on tape.
> Can anyone confirm this from an insider perspective?

>From a strictly outsider's perspective, I can say that most pop music 
on Sullivan consisted of the lead singer performing live over pre-
recorded tracks. I've also seen some occasions of straight lip-syncing 
on Sullivan, but those were rare.

--Phil M.






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Message: 10        
   Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:31:44 -0500
   From: Austin Roberts 
Subject: Re: Michael Brown


Hey Barry, I thought, for some reason, that Bill and Steve Jerome 
had produced the first few Left Banke singles. Could be wrong.

Austin





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Message: 11        
   Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:18:58 -0000
   From: Clark Besch 
Subject: Bitter End TV Show


I agree that the Stone Poneys and Box Tops sound horrible on the 
Bitter End TV show.  Spanky and Our Gang sounds really sparse too, 
but they show their talent, it's just that their songs are such 
productions on record, that a five piece band can't get that sound 
without all that orchestration and all.  Doesn't Phil Ochs shine 
on that show, tho?  

Clark





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Message: 12        
   Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:21:41 -0500
   From: Jeff Lemlich 
Subject: Re: Alice Wonder Land


Mick Patrick:
> Also recommended: the British cover version of "He's Mine", rendered 
> as "She's Mine" by the fabulous Chants on Pye. Tony Hatch produced it. 
> The Swans' recording of the song ain't bad either. All three versions 
> are out on CD, but you knew that.

I can also recommend the American Beetles' version of "She's Mine", 
produced by Bob Yorey for his own BYP label in 1964.  

Hans Huss:
> Didn't Bardell have a sister label called Angie? There is at least 
> one record by the Laddins (featuring the great Frankie Gearing) 
> - 'Push, Shake, Kick And Shout' - that came out on both labels (Bardell 
> 776 and Angie 1003).

It's interesting to note that on the day President Kennedy was shot --
November 22, 1963 -- both the Laddins and the Marvells were together at
Criteria Studios, recording the raucous "Dizzy Jones Birdland" with 
members of James Brown's band.    I'm not sure if Frankie Gearing had 
joined the group yet.   I get dizzy trying to picture Annette Snell 
(Marvells lead singer) and Frankie Gearing together in the same session.   
Deep soul fans know what I'm gushing about.

The Laddins had another record on Angie:

I'll Kiss Your Teardrops Away/I'll Be There, issued on Angie 1790 in 1
962. There's a Laddins/Steinways discography on pages 68 through 70 of 
the book "Savage Lost", which is available from my website.

Push, Shake, Kick, And Shout,

Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com





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Message: 13        
   Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 07:17:07 +1030
   From: David Walker 
Subject: Re: "Goin' Back"


Certainly one of the top versions of "Goin' Back" is by Renee Geyer 
and Glenn Shorrock. This live version was released in 1983, received 
a lot of air play in Australia but I don't think it hit the top of 
the charts. I would say, in the words of Ian "Molly" Meldrum, "do 
yourself a favour" and give this track a listen should you get the 
chance.

regards
David Walker





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Message: 14        
   Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:39:06 -0000
   From: Peter Andreasen 
Subject: Sandie Shaw recording of "Be my baby"


Sandie Shaw has a new CD box out. CD number 4 is a collection of 
unreleased tracks, among them is a song called "be my baby" can 
anybody confirm that this is the Spector-penned song?

Thanks
Peter








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Message: 15        
   Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 01:04:50 -0000
   From: John DeAngelis 
Subject: Artie Schroek


Steve Harvey wrote: 
> I have a single by Artie on Columbia of "Coconut Grove".

A while back Spectropop member Michael Greenberg turned me on to the 
album "A Spoonful of Lovin'" by the Artie Schroeck Implosion, an 
album of nicely done instrumental Spoonful covers.

John DeAngelis









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Message: 16        
   Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 07:53:32 -0000
   From: Michael T 
Subject: Re: Keith Allison request


Robert wrote:
> Any chance of hearing Keith Allison's LOOK AT ME on Musica? Only 
> have ever heard Cher's version of this excellent song. Would love 
> to hear the original.                

Keith's "Look at Me" is now in Musica. :)





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