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There are 19 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Luther Dixon aka Barney Williams
From: Mick Patrick
2. Re: Claire and Artie sitting in a tree
From: Claire Francis
3. Re: Both sides covered
From: Joe Nelson
4. Re: "Pictures Of Matchstick Men"
From: Bill Mulvy
5. Re: The Flirtations
From: James
6. Attention Chantal Goya Fans !!
From: Nicole Diaz-Ordaz
7. Early Girls 4; Nashville inquiry and notes
From: Country Paul
8. Re: The Chantays & Lawrence Welk
From: Chris
9. Re: The Chantays
From: Steve Harvey
10. Noshville Katz
From: Country Paul
11. Vernon Young, R.I.P.
From: Bill Swanke
12. Re: The Chantays
From: Gary Myers
13. Re: song lyrics
From: Jeff Lemlich
14. Re: rampant Thatcherism
From: Phil X Milstein
15. Re: Both sides covered
From: Scott Swanson
16. Re: Mark Thatchers
From: Lyn Nuttall
17. Re: song lyrics
From: Brent Cash
18. Re: song lyrics
From: Mark
19. Re: song lyrics
From: Davie Gordon
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:06:57 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Luther Dixon aka Barney Williams
Alan Warner wrote:
> As I understand it, Barney Williams is Luther Dixon's brother
> and is credited as co-writer on the Shirelles hit song BABY
> IT'S YOU alongside Burt Bacharach and Mack David, Hal's
> brother.
As I understand it, Burt Bacharach and Mack David wrote a song
entitled "I'll Cherish You", and made a demo disc thereof,
featuring Burt himself on backing vocals. Luther Dixon, the
Shirelles' producer, liked the song but wanted "darker" lyrics,
so wrote new ones, using his brother's name to do so. He then
recorded the Shirelles'"Baby It's You" over the backing track of
the original demo. The voice singing "Sha la la la la" at the
start of the record is Burt. Barney Williams is Luther Dixon's
brother. I believe he was a promo man for Scepter/Wand.
Has anyone ever heard the original "I'll Cherish You" demo?
George Schowerer:
> Is Luther still alive and / or active in records ??
Yes, Luther Dixon is alive. He was featured in the recent(ish)
A&E Brill Building documentary. S'pop staged a live event in NY
in 2003. The day after the bash, Sheila B threw a soiree at her
place. Maxine Brown showed up. We asked her about her old
producer, Luther Dixon. She replied that she had talked to him
recently on the phone. At that time he was living in (I think)
Florida and maybe not in the best of health.
Florence Greenberg had great taste in men, and producers.
Luther Dixon is one of the greatest producers who ever lived.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:27:42 EST
From: Claire Francis
Subject: Re: Claire and Artie sitting in a tree
Previously;
> The Nightriders' version includes involvement by two people who I
> don't believe knew each other at the time (despite having started
> their careers in roughly the same time and place), but who nearly
> four decades later would meet up here in cyberSpectroland.
Hi Groovy Spectropop people,
Phil, look what you started here with such a great word
like"cyberSpectroland"! I can't **wait** to hear the record as well.
The fellow that sold it wrote to me and said:
"Could try to send mp3 but thay are very big........do you want both
sides of record?? You can download realplayer1 for free at real.com
...I'll check out the sites you mentioned as soon as I get a second
and get back to you sometime. Send me your address and I'll eventually
post a recording of the 45 off to you if you want. Peace, Chris"
I will try and get a copy and let you know when I do.
Long Live the Spectropop Nation!
Love & Light,
Claire Francis
http://www.clairefrancis.com
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:44:02 -0500
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Re: Both sides covered
Lyn Nuttall:
> The double-sided duplication is interesting: it reminds me of the
> Diamonds covering both sides of The Rays' "Silhouettes " /"Daddy
> Cool," but no doubt there are other cases.
Out of S'pop range here, but I used to have a 78 of Guy Lombardo's
"Third Man Theme" c/w "Café Mozart Waltz" which was the same coupling
as the hit single by Anton Karas.
A couple of nights ago Tom Diehl sent Austin Roberts and I mp3's of
Ronnie Dove singing Austin's "Don't Stop Me Baby" and "If It's A
Question Of Love". I pointed out that Austin had recorded both songs
for an Arista single (AS 0335), but I don't know that Ronnie's
versions coupled his own single.
Joe Nelson
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:01:56 -0600
From: Bill Mulvy
Subject: Re: "Pictures Of Matchstick Men"
Peter McCray:
> I've been following the various threads on Hit Records with great
> interest. Does anyone know if Status Quo's 1968 psychedelic classic
> 'Pictures of Matchstick Men' ever got the Hit treatment?
Peter, I hope not. If you like "Pictures" there is an import CD:
Picturesque Matchstickable Messages From The Status Quo, Castle Music
CMEDO 718 that has a live BBC version, which is in many ways better
than the original. (Ultimate clean guitar sound). It also contains
"Black Veils Of Melancholy" live. It also contains rare stereo remix
versions from "Messages From The Status Quo" album. The song
"Elizabeth Dreams" is awesome in <>.
Bill Mulvy
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:49:24 -0000
From: James
Subject: Re: The Flirtations
I will post up both articles for the Flirtations from Blues and Soul
on Wednesday - when I will finally be at home and have the chance.
One is an interview from 1971. Another is from 1974 promoting "Dirty
Work." Both include pictures.
In the mean time if anyone has a copy of "Dirty Work" b/w "No Such
Thing As A Miracle" on mp3 or ra. post it or e-mail it to me
(jmccoymoniz@comcast.net) and I'd be happy to return the favor by
giving you all kinds of pictures of the group or any of their songs.
--James
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:27:35 -0800
From: Nicole Diaz-Ordaz
Subject: Attention Chantal Goya Fans !!
Godard re-release Masculine Feminine (1966):
http://www.rialtopictures.com/masculine.html
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:56:28 -0500
From: Country Paul
Subject: Early Girls 4; Nashville inquiry and notes
Back to catching up again....
Mick Patrick:
> EARLY GIRLS 4 tracklist:
> ...8. THE TEDDY BEARS "Oh Why"
Perhaps one of Phil Spector's most beautiful compositions ever, and a
superb Carol Connors reading. Certainly in my all-time personal top 10.
The rest looks pretty darn good, too. Nice to see The Tassels' "To A
Soldier Boy" - underrated, naive, wonderful. (I really hate it when
people just stop and rave about their fave cuts, like I just did; sorry
if I offended anyone, but this deserves to be much better known, in my
opinion. Now, back to the factual stuff....)
Richard Snow:
> "Silent Girlfriend" in particular has a huge 60's vibe.
> Go to http://www.wiz.to/richardsnow click on "Listen" and then
> "Tuesday Music".
"Silent Girlfriend" is good fun - nicely put together. Do I hear a
Michael Nesmith influence?
With the influx of Nashville correspondents, maybe it's time to inquire
one last time about The Younger Generation (later re-released as The
Velvet Hammer), "When The World Changes" (on Epic, perhaps 1968). Great
beat, but what amazing vocal work! Who were they, please? Any info would
be appreciated. The double lead voices are exceptional, even if the
lyric is a bit obvious.
Phil M:
> The name of "Brenda Lee" pops into my mind pretty quickly. Her
> autobiography, among a number of other sources, attests to the
> hepness of the "A Team" studio cats that worked the Nashville
> studio circuit.
FYI, the son of A-Team bassist Bob Moore (still alive and playin') is
R. Stevie Moore, eclectic and prolific releaser of self-produced albums.
The New Jersey section of the Sunday New York Times just had an article
on him last week. Also, Bob's wife and Stevie's mother, Kittra, is a
regular correspondent of The Hillbilly Yahoo Discussion Group:
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/hillbilly/
Country Paul
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 05:12:16 -0000
From: Chris
Subject: Re: The Chantays & Lawrence Welk
Previously:
> Interviewed in the 1970s, Wlek admitted that he really liked the
> sound of "Pipeline" and thought is was a "great little record by
> boys so young". That Lawrence Welk.....what a Cut-up!!!!
Yes, but it works better with the proper pronunciation:
"I really like-ed the sound of-a 'Pipe-a-line-ah'; it was a great-a
little-a record-a py poys so young-ah."
Yes I do listen to a lot of Stan Freberg,
Chris
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:39:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: The Chantays
'Pipeline" was one of the few rock records to be recorded without
a bass or bass guitar.
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 00:28:47 -0500
From: Country Paul
Subject: Noshville Katz
Bobster:
> parently there WAS a novelty record (have no idea who the artist was)
> at came out around '67 called "Nashville Katz," parodying the
> poonful's tune. It was aired a couple of times on Dr. Demento, but
> failed to make the sacred Dementia's Top Ten so he probably didn't
> play it again for a long time. The guy sings it with kind of a
> Russian-Yiddish accent: "Nashville Katz / He runs the kosher deli ..."
The rest of the chorus "...The only one in town / It's not like you're
in Brrooklyn / Stop in when you're around."
My favorite line: "Have a yiddishe dish, a potato knish, or a pickle
with wine sauce / And you wash it down with a Dr. Brown so it shouldn't
be a total loss - eat, darling, eat!"
I've had this record since it was new - brilliant parody.
And in the Nashville discussion, I notice that so far (up to 2/7/05) no
one has mentioned The Newbeats or Kris Jensen.
Country Paul
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:24:30 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
From: Bill Swanke
Subject: Vernon Young, R.I.P.
Forwarded from Maxine Porter, President, Original Drifters, Inc.
www.OriginalDrifters.com :
Sad Original Drifters News
I am deeply saddened to report that one of our long time Original
Drifters family members, vocalist VERNON YOUNG, passed away on
February 17, 2005 at 8:46 p.m. in Georgetown, Grand Cayman in the
Caribbean while on tour with our group. Having previously worked
with Archie Bell & The Drells, Vernon joined Bill Pinkney's Original
Drifters in the summer of 1993. I will provide more information as
it becomes available.
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:58:58 -0800
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: The Chantays
Mikey:
> Pipeline was first distributed in California to stores on the
> local Princess Label.
Are you sure it wasn't first on Downey?
gem (who lives in Downey)
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 22:32:34 -0000
From: Jeff Lemlich
Subject: Re: song lyrics
Steve Jarrell:
> A caller called my radio show today and said that she had been
> looking for 30+ years for a song with a repeated lyric phrase,
> "The children of St. Monica". She said she thought it came out
> between 1966-68. Any idea?
This was by Don Grady, on the Canterbury label. You can find it
on the "Yellow Balloon" CD reissue on Sundazed.
Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:30:37 -0500
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: rampant Thatcherism
Lyn Nuttall wrote:
> I see that it has been accommodated under the Northern Soul umbrella:
> perhaps there is a N.S. aficionado here who can throw some light on
> the mysterious Mr Thatcher. (Of course, these days, Net searches
> inevitably throw up the latest on Sir Mark.)
Are you guys jokin' about This Mark Thatcher being the same as That
Mark Thatcher?
--Phil M.
http://www.aspma.com/probe
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 22:14:01 -0800
From: Scott Swanson
Subject: Re: Both sides covered
In 1964 an Australian band called The Cicadas covered both sides of
The Marauders' 1963 release "That's What I Want"/"Hey Wha'D'Ya Say".
I'm not even sure if the Marauders 45 was even released in Australia!
Scott
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:04:36 -0000
From: Lyn Nuttall
Subject: Re: Mark Thatchers
Norm D. Plume wrote:
> Am I the only person in the UK who finds the idea of Mark Thatcher
> singing a bluebeat song hilarious? So, Maggie Thatcher gave birth
> to a bluebeat singer? Gevalt! Doesn't Mark give her enough problems
> as it is?
Hilarious indeed! For those outside the UK, this will explain the
reference: http://tinyurl.com/6gxuf Typing "Mark Thatcher" into
Google News search will throw up a flurry of similar pages.
Lyn
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 22:55:46 -0000
From: Brent Cash
Subject: Re: song lyrics
Steve Jarrell:
> A caller called my radio show today and said that she had been
> looking for 30+ years for a song with a repeated lyric phrase,
> "The children of St. Monica". She said she thought it came out
> between 1966-68. Any idea?
My vote is for "The Children Of St. Monica" by Don Grady & The
Windupwatchband. It can be found on Sundazed's "Yellow Balloon"
CD. Sounds like you have a pretty cool audience!
Hope this helps,
Brent Cash
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 04:03:08 -0000
From: Mark
Subject: Re: song lyrics
Steve Jarrell:
> A caller called my radio show today and said that she had been
> looking for 30+ years for a song with a repeated lyric phrase,
> "The children of St. Monica". She said she thought it came out
> between 1966-68. Any idea?
Hi Steve! That would be "The Children of St. Monica" by Don Grady, who
is better-known for his acting than his singing (he played Robbie
Douglas on the classic My Three Sons). It was on the Canterbury label.
Grady was also a member of the group Yellow Balloon on the same label
who had the hit "Yellow Balloon".
Best,
Mark
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 09:22:45 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Re: song lyrics
Steve Jarrell:
> A caller called my radio show today and said that she had been
> looking for 30+ years for a song with a repeated lyric phrase,
> "The children of St. Monica". She said she thought it came out
> between 1966-68. Any idea?
Steve, this is almost certainly the record your listener means
DON GRADY (Canterbury 501, Nov 1966)
Children of St. Monica's / Good Man To Have Around The House
I think it's on CD as one of the bonus tracks on the Yellow
Balloon CD on Sundazed.
> Normally I wouldn't bother the group with trivia ...
God - I thought that's what this group was about :)
Davie Gordon
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