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There are 16 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Classically inspired pop
From: Will Stos
2. Re: Vogues question
From: Mike Bennedict
3. Re: TAMI Show/ Big TNT
From: Dieter P Wirth
4. Re: Gene McDaniels and "Chip Chip"
From: Rob Pingel
5. Re: Denny Reed
From: Clark Besch
6. Re: C&W & R&B
From: Rob Pingel
7. Re: The House On Top Of The World.
From: Julio Niño
8. Re: C&W & R&B
From: Dan Hughes
9. Looking for two songs
From: Country Paul
10. Pirkle? Lee Moses; thanks
From: Country Paul
11. Trade Martin
From: Phil X Milstein
12. Re: The Vogues - You're The One
From: Rex Patton
13. Re: Vogues question
From: Robert Pingel
14. Re: Vogues "She Is Today"
From: Frank Jastfelder
15. Re:Vogues/Fenways
From: Howard Earnshaw
16. Re: C&W & R&B
From: Phil X Milstein
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 00:02:37 -0000
From: Will Stos
Subject: Classically inspired pop
I've been searching the old Spectropop threads and saw numerous
posts on pop songs that have adapted classical melodies or
"lifted them". I was wondering if anyone has come across a web
site that has tried to list them all, if any music historian has
written anything on the subject, and if any CDs have compiled
these songs since the group last dicussed them. For those who
don't know what I'm talking about, it's songs like The Toys'
"A Lover's Concerto." I've Googled it, but I've only found some
sites that list the ones that were the biggest hits. If nothing
is out there, might I suggest that an enterprising Spectropopper
or two take this project on? I'd be happy to help, but I'm afraid
I don't know much about this genre.
Will : )
PS - here's a girl group related list from the 2001 discussions:
http://www.spectropop.com/archive/digest/m658.html
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 05:00:54 -0000
From: Mike Bennedict
Subject: Re: Vogues question
Mikey wrote:
> Only "Five O'Clock World" had the tracks recorded in
> Nashville. "You're The One" was done in Pittsburgh, with
> local group The Fenways recording the backing track. The
> Vogues then recorded their vocals and the whole thing
> was mixed mono.
Anyone heard of the song "She Is Today"? I read it was from a
1968 album that featured the singles "Special Angel" and "There
Is Someone". Was this other song released as a single?
Mike.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 08:35:22 EDT
From: Dieter P Wirth
Subject: Re: TAMI Show/ Big TNT
Richard F. wrote:
> I saw somewhere that a European DVD was recently
> released with portions of the TAMI Show and portions
> of the TNT Show. It appears that licensing problems
> are preventing the TAMI Show from being released in
> its entirety.
Lex responded:
> I have a copy of that DVD.They were selling for $10
> here in Australia. Here is the company's link:
> http://umbrellaentertainment.com.au/Item.php?CatNo=ÚVID0168
The quality of the Australian DVD is fantastic, compared to the
bootleg tapes available before. But Petula Clark, Lovin' Spoonful,
Joan Baez and others are missing! And most of all, the version of
"You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" with Joan Baez on vocals and
Phil S. on piano is missing too. Can't think of licensing problems,
just of money-optimising in putting out stuff drop by drop.
Dieter
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 07:48:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rob Pingel
Subject: Re: Gene McDaniels and "Chip Chip"
Bob Celli wrote:
> When I asked [Cliff Crofford] why there were two other
> writers listed on the label, he told me that he had to
> share the writers credits with them because they had
> supplied the title.
Those two other credited writers are Jeff Barry and Artie Resnick.
I am a big fan of these wonderful writers, but also a little
disappointed to hear that they were responsible only for the title
of this unusual song.
Rob Pingel
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:44:12 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Denny Reed
The S'pop Team asked:
> Does anyone have any 45s by Denny Reed? If so,
> maybe you could help with some label scans.
I have the Trey (3007) 45, "A Teenager Feels It, Too" b/w "Hot "Water".
It's not the prettiest label, with a name on one side and a sticker
on other, but I can scan and send if you wish.
Clark
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:51:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rob Pingel
Subject: Re: C&W & R&B
Country Paul wrote:
> {Bobby Hebb's] "A Satisfied Mind"....
> Is this the same song Porter Wagoner had a #1 country
> hit with in 1953? If so, it's interesting to imagine how it
> could be transitioned into a soul vein.
Ed Salamon responded:
> Lots of country hits were also cut R&B in Nashville in the
> '60s. ... Often the same musicians played on both sessions.
Just a general thought: Good country music and soul are like fraternal
twins: different, but cut from the same cloth.
Rob Pingel
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:16:12 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: Re: The House On Top Of The World.
Steve wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone in Spectropop land knows of
> another version of "Una Casa In Cima Al Mondo" recorded
> in English?
Hola, Steve. I love that song. Pino's original is marvelous but perhaps
I like even more Mina's version, also recorded in 1966 on the Italian
label Curci. It's terrifyingly beautiful. The Italian lyrics written by
Vito Pallavicini are magnificent and very moving. How are the English
lyrics?
Chao,
Julio Niño.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 06:19:14 -0500
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Re: C&W & R&B
Ed Salamon wrote:
> Lots of country hits were also cut R&B in Nashville in the '60s.
And not just in the '60s -- many of country pioneer's Jimmie Rodgers'
songs (he died in 1933) were also recorded by blues artists. For example,
I have "I'd Rather Drink Muddy Water and Sleep in a Hollow Log" by
Rodgers, and also by B.B. King.
---Dan
http://danhughes.net
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:01:30 -0000
From: Country Paul
Subject: Looking for two songs
I'm looking for The Ross Sisters' "You Still Want Her" and The Mavricks'
"Angel With A Heartache" (both Capitol, probably 1959-1962). I don't
know the "credentials" of the first recording, a very nice pop ballad
with a hint of country; but the latter was a Gary Paxton project which
was re-recorded a couple of years ago in a country version on a new EP
by The Innocents, "Midnight Snack" (available at
http://www.theinnocentsmusic.com).
Could someone please possibly play these to musica or tell me where I
might find them?
Many thanks,
Country Paul
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:51:44 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Pirkle? Lee Moses; thanks
Simon White:
> I have here a CDR of (most) of [Lee Moses'] recordings which
> is in preperation for a possible reissue project.
Maybe you know, Simon: is Lee Moses the same person as
Pirkle Lee Moses, lead singer of The El Dorados?
Thanks Ed Salamon and Austin Roberts for replying to my
"Satisfied Mind" and PG&E inquiries.
Country Paul
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:01:50 -0800
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Trade Martin
I've heard the name Trade Martin many times here and there over
the years, but don't know anything concrete about him other than
that he wrote the sublime "Take Me For A Little While." Was he
primarily a writer, or performer? I believe he was mostly HQ'd
out of New York, but don't know with which set of New York talent
(if any) he was most associated. Was he one of the Brill cats?
Finally, does anyone know if he ever recorded his own version of
"Take Me ..."?
Thanks,
--Phil M.
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 18:12:09 -0400
From: Rex Patton
Subject: Re: The Vogues - You're The One
Mikey:
> Paul, only "Five O'clock World" had the tracks recorded in
> Nashville. "You're The One" was done in Pittsburg, with local
> group 'The Fenways' recording the backing track. The Vogues
> then recorded their vocals and the whole thing was mixed mono.
Just to throw a Spaniard in the works, Hal Blaine lists
"You're The One" in his discography.
Rex Patton
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:44:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Pingel
Subject: Re: Vogues question
Mike Bennedict wrote:
> Anyone heard of the song "She Is Today"? I read it was
> from a 1968 album that featured the singles "Special
> Angel" and "There Is Someone". Was this other song
> released as a single?
Mike,
This is probably the Barry Mann-Cynthia Weil composition
from the same period. Barry Mann recorded it for Capitol
Records as a single. Interesting record. Have never heard
it covered by anyone else.
Rob Pingel
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 16:59:09 +0200
From: Frank Jastfelder
Subject: Re: Vogues "She Is Today"
Mike Bennedict:
> Anyone heard of the song "She Is Today"? I read it was
> from a 1968 album that featured the singles "Special Angel"
> and "There Is Someone". Was this other song released as
> a single?
It's written by Mann/Weil and is on the album "Turn Around,
Look At Me". Bergen White did a version too on his album.
Don't know if the Vogues put it out as a single, but it sure
is a great number.
Frank Jastfelder
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:19:29 EDT
From: Howard Earnshaw
Subject: Re:Vogues/Fenways
Paul Urbahns:
> According to Bill Inglot, who examined the tapes, the
> backing tracks for the Co&Cee Vogues hits were recorded
> in Nashville then the tapes were sent to Pittsburgh where
> the backing tracks were played and the Vogues added their
> vocals.
Mikey wrote:
> Paul, only "Five O'clock World" had the tracks recorded in
> Nashville. "You're The One" was done in Pittsburg, with local
> group 'The Fenways' recording the backing track. The Vogues
> then recorded their vocals and the whole thing was mixed mono.
Can I add that I once picked up a copy of 'Satisfied' by the
Fenways over here in the UK from a Shop (Simonstores) for 0.05p
- What an underated Northern soul record that is!!! Simonstores
(a discount goods shop) had bought the remainder of what was left
of a warehouse full of US import singles brought over by a Bradford
(Yorkshire) company called 'Bostocks' in the early 1970s. Their
store was was in a Market in Bradford, which became a magnet for
nothern soul collectors of that era! I recall that there was
literally hundreds of Verve & MGM singles to be found there, not
all soul of course.... but hey!! happy days!!! The 'big' northern
hit by the Vogues was of course 'That's The Tune',
Howard Earnshaw
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:46:47 -0800
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: C&W & R&B
Rob Pingel wrote:
> Just a general thought: Good country music and soul are like
> fraternal twins: different, but cut from the same cloth.
Most songs are, at heart, "merely" pop songs, and only become
country, soul, jazz or etc. from the way they're interpreted.
At least that's the way I see it.
--Phil M.
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