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There are 16 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Kathy and Helen and some more girls
From: Frank 2
2. Don't Cry - Lyrics by Norman Newell
From: Steve
3. Re: Diamond on Diamond
From: Fred Clemens
4. Re: The Vogues - You're The One
From: Mikey
5. Re: Nashville Beatles Festival
From: Gary Myers
6. Jack Baverstock
From: Sir James
7. Re: Lee Moses
From: Simon White
8. Re: Help! I need a Beatles Weekend...
From: David Walker
9. Re:Joel Christie
From: Brent Cash
10. Re: "Satisfied Mind'
From: Ed Salamon
11. Re: ...and Dee Dee; Lesley's new CD; Breakaways; CTA "vs." PG&E
From: Austin Roberts
12. Re: American Dreams
From: David Coyle
13. Helen Shapiro
From: David Bell
14. Kathy Kirby and Helen Shapiro
From: David Walker
15. Re: Kathy Kirby, Helen Shapiro
From: Mark Maldwyn
16. Pete is best ...
From: Steve Harvey
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 08:17:21 +0200
From: Frank 2
Subject: Re: Kathy and Helen and some more girls
Simon:
> Here's a personal Brit Girl top twenty-not in any particular order:
Really interesting list, Simon, with some extremely good tracks.
Regarding Helen Shapiro, though, she definitely was THE biggest
female singer in the UKs in the early 60s. All her singles were
huge hits and there was no one that could come close to her. She
only started to fade like so many others singers did, when taste
started to move on to other sounds.
Frank
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 11:07:59 -0000
From: Steve
Subject: Don't Cry - Lyrics by Norman Newell
Hello everyone. I need some advice I have been listening to
an Italian song "Una Casa In Cima Al Mondo" written by Pino
and performed by him at San Remo in 1966
I have discovered an English version of the song called
"Don't Cry" with English lyrics by Norman Newell (who else?)
I have this version by the Ray Charles Singers on an LP. I was
wondering if anyone is Spectropop land knows of another version
recorded in English? Perhaps British - recorded about 1966 or 1967.
Thanks guys
Steve in Australia
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 02:48:49 -0000
From: Fred Clemens
Subject: Re: Diamond on Diamond
David A. Young wrote:
> In reply to Tom Diehl's and Fred Clemens's questions:
> My copy of "Ten Lonely Guys" by Ten Broken Hearts is
> indeed on the see-through brown vinyl Fred described
> (thanks, I hadn't noticed that before) and does have
> the flip "Shining Star," unlike the other DJ copy Tom's
> seen. Does this mean I can count on the disc to figure
> prominently in my retirement plan?
I picked up my copy of the record about two years ago. At the time,
there was an auction going for the record on Ebay. For most of the
week, the price was holding at $30.-$40. dollars. Then, during the
last few minutes, the price was climbing rapidly. Over $100. Over
$200. I checked out the bidders in the competition and saw they were
Neil Diamond fanatics, based on other stuff they had bid on. Within
the last few moments, the price upped to over $300., nearing the
$400. mark in the end. I can gladly say that I payed $30.00 for mine.
Fred Clemens
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 20:01:51 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: The Vogues - You're The One
Paul Urbahns:
> According to Bill Inglot, who examined the tapes, the
> backing tracks for the Co&Cee Vogues hits were recorded
> in Nashville then the tapes were sent to Pittsburgh where
> the backing tracks were played and the Vogues added their
> vocals.
Paul, only "Five O'clock World" had the tracks recorded in
Nashville. "You're The One" was done in Pittsburg, with local
group 'The Fenways' recording the backing track. The Vogues
then recorded their vocals and the whole thing was mixed mono.
Mikey
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 10:19:03 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Nashville Beatles Festival
Ed Salamon:
> ... this year am penciled in to moderate a panel on Ringo's
> Beaucoups of Blues album ...
"Loser's Lounge" on that LP was written by former Wisconsinite
Bobby Pierce, who will be covered in my 2nd WI 50's-60's book.
gem
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 08:49:33 -0000
From: Sir James
Subject: Jack Baverstock
I am doing some research for my web site and can't find anything
on producer Jack Baverstock after 1974. Does anyone know what he
did after he left Philips? Replies off-list please.
Thanks
Sir James
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 19:05:30 +0000
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: Lee Moses
Phil X Milstein:
> Anyone know anything about guitarist/singer Lee Moses? His
> "Bad Girl, Pts. 1 & 2" (included on the "All Tore Up" bootleg
> compilation) is one of the greatest records of my life, but my
> attempts to locate any of his other material have gone down in
> way overpriced flames.
I must have missed this posting. I have here a CDR of (most) of his
reordings which is in preperation for a possible reissue project.
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 06:34:34 +1000
From: David Walker
Subject: Re: Help! I need a Beatles Weekend...
Joe Nelson:
> FWIW, the first demos of the group were recorded there
> was no drummer in the group.
thanks Joe, the statement I included in my posting;
> "...plus the reel-to-reel 2-track recorder used by the
> Beatles to record the first "demo" recordings, owned
> by Pete Best, the Beatles original drummer."
this blurb I took from the promotional material for the Cavern
in Adelaide. You will notice that the statement is in parenthesis
and so is the word demo. Hence the demo statement should be taken
with a pinch of salt. Mind you the tape player is quite impressive.
I have a shed full of old tape players including one that
Rachmaninov composed some of his better songs on:-)
cheers
David Walker
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 00:53:40 -0000
From: Brent Cash
Subject: Re:Joel Christie
Phil X Milstein earlier about my
Joel Christie musica post:
> it's a tremendously loud record, and your dub
> captures that really well.
Hi Phil,
My original dub captured very noisy vinyl until the other
Phil (PC) cleaned it up very nicely, so thanks to him for
doing a great job on it!
This song holds up well against its Mann/Weil flipside -
I wonder if there's other great self-penned tunes from
Mr. Christie somewhere out there?...
Best Wishings and Hopings,
Brent Cash
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 17:44:25 -0000
From: Ed Salamon
Subject: Re: "Satisfied Mind'
Country Paul:
> {Bobby Hebb's] "A Satisfied Mind"....
> Is this the same song Porter Wagoner had a #1 country hit with
> in 1953? If so, it's interesting to imagine how it could be
> transitioned into a soul vein.
Lots of Country hits were also cut R&B in Nashville in the 60s.
Little Esther's version of the Ray Price hit "Release Me" is in
a display in the current "Night Train To Nashville' exhibit at
the Country Music Hall of Fame along with Joe Hinton's version of
Willie Nelson's "Funny How Time Slips Away", Johhny Paycheck's
version of Freddie North's "She's All I Got", written by Gary US
Bonds. Often the same musicians played on both sessions, according
to the exhibit.
Ed Salamon
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 02:14:08 EDT
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: ...and Dee Dee; Lesley's new CD; Breakaways; CTA "vs." PG&E
Country Paul:
> Is this why west coast horn-rock group Pacific Gas & Electric
> became PG&E? (Not that it helped their career a whole lot....)
Hiya, My good and talented friend, John Hill (who many thought was
a college professor), co-wrote and produced the only real hit that
Pacific Gas And Electric had (Are You Ready) when he was a producer
for Columbia in the later 60s,early 70s. Who knows why they changed
to PG&E, since one hit hardly warrants it. John has created many hit
jingles and we have written several 'almost' hits together, including
a very successful Yamaha Motorcycle jingle.
I'm glad you mentioned PG&E since I need to catch up with John.
Best,
Austin Roberts (back online again finally, at this address)
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:31:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Coyle
Subject: Re: American Dreams
My biggest pet peeve about this show has been the conversations
taking place between the two main girl characters during the
supposed taping of "American Bandstand". Not sneaky whispering,
but regular conversational tone. You have bleachers full of
teenagers all moving to the music, yet these two are sitting
there blabbing away while the biggest stars in pop music are
"performing" right in front of their eyes.
Would Dick Clark, or his stage crew, have seriously let such
distraction actually happen during the airing of "AB"?? Seems
to me that the teenagers on the show were pretty well kept in
order...or was that just on the dance floor?
Oh well, artistic license, whatever. It still irks me.
David
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 07:39:16 EDT
From: David Bell
Subject: Helen Shapiro
Helen decided a couple of years ago to give up touring.
I'm sure I read in that article that she would only consider
doing one off specials now. Sad really as she has such a
great jazz voice.
I've seen her appear in several gospel concerts and her voice
is fabulous still - even if you don't agree with her Christian
message. I bought her Christian CDs and really like them.
Just one more thought.... How about a one off special with
Susan Singer, her cousin. (Cue groans yet again, Mick!)
David.
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 07:05:30 +1000
From: David Walker
Subject: Kathy Kirby and Helen Shapiro
Roy C:
> Basically Rick, both these artits suffered as a result
> of the explosion of Merseybeat.
That is exactly the way I see it.
Although, to see it in context of where I was at the time, living
in Australia, it could be argued that Kathy rode in on the wave to
a great run of hits in 1964 whereas Helen was already on the charts
prior to the "Merseybeat" era and comfortably kept on charting.
Living in Australia at the time of the "Merseybeat" explosion one
gets a very different picture to that of the Brits or the Americans.
(Like other English speaking countries Australia has had the benefit
of receiving the best and worst of American and British pop when the
same mix may not have been applicable to the original countries.
This, together with a home-grown and European product gave us a good
diet of popular music).
Helen had at least 9 Top 40 hits between 1961 and 1963, and was a
staple on Adelaide radio between those times. Her hits were also
constantly played past 1963 and this suggests she was very popular
then and now, or the radio stations may have resented "modern" stuff
like the Merseybeat sound and played what they thought was more
suitable to young 'uns.
Kathy had 2 hits at the top ("Dance On" #1, "Secret Love" #2) and
"Let Me Go Lover" at #23, all in 1964.
Needless to say both Kathy Kirby and Helen Shapiro are legends and both feature on the playlist of Commercial radio stations as well
as Community Radio in Australia to this day.
I might even suggest that to a certain demographic, in Australia,
they are both household names.
cheers
David Walker
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 19:08:53 -0000
From: Mark Maldwyn
Subject: Re: Kathy Kirby, Helen Shapiro
previously:
> ...Snuff Garret's blueprint for Cher's chart-topping
> "The Way Of Love"
Gary Myers:
> Another funny one just occured to me the other day, too, when
> I heard "Worst That Could Happen". I realized that, when he says,
> "If he loves you more than me ..", it should really be "If he
> loves you more than I .. ", unless both men are bisexual.
>
> gem
It's the 'dear' bit that gets me - fantastic! And even weirder
with Cher.
Mark M
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 19:15:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Pete is best ...
Joe Nelson:
> FWIW, the first demos of the group were recorded
> there was no drummer in the group.
That's doesn't mean Pete was drumming for them at the
time they did their demos. The Beatles use to hang out
at The Casbah which Pete's mom ran. It's possible that
they borrowed his recorder at the time. He joined them
after their drummer bailed out on them. I think it was
just before they left for Hamburg.
Steve
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