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There are 21 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Philly Project / The Dantes
From: Clark Besch
2. Elton John's Demos
From: Norm D Plume
3. Re: It's So Fine: Pye Girls Are Go!
From: Will Stos
4. Re: Jack jumped over the radio
From: Bob Radil
5. Pirate radio themes
From: Frank Murphy
6. Re: Philly Project / The Dantes
From: Dan Hughes
7. Bergen White
From: Bill George
8. Re: Crystal Clear - NOT
From: Bill George
9. A few questions for Alan O'Day
From: Peter Richmond
10. Re: A tale of two songs: I'm Counting On You
From: Lyn Nuttall
11. Thurl
From: Phil X Milstein
12. Re: Tourists and Summer.
From: Lex Marsh
13. Re: Jack jumped over the radio
From: Bob Rashkow
14. Re: It's So Fine: Pye Girls Are Go!
From: ACJ
15. The Songs Of Lori Burton
From: Mick Patrick
16. Re: Image
From: Joop Jansen
17. Re: Pirate radio themes
From: Richard Havers
18. How to Buy Girl Group Records / Ace Website
From: Will Stos
19. Saint Etienne
From: Richard Havers
20. Re: Philly Project / The Dantes
From: Gary Myers
21. October is International Bubblegum Month
From: Kim Cooper
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:21:18 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Philly Project / The Dantes
S.J. Dibai:
> Meanwhile, please fill me in on The Dantes. The name sounds just
> vaguely familiar.
Me:
> Reminds me that whoever is doing the Philly project, can you get
> the great Jamie Records track, "Can't Get Enough of Your Love"
> and "80-96" by the Dantes?? Would love to hear that clean too!!!
Margaret G. Still:
> Is this the same Dantes who did a nice cover of the Jagger-Richards
> song "Connection" on Main Line 1366? I'd like to hear about them
> also.
Margaret, Good question! Main Line was a Cleveland label, as far as
I know, so that throws that city into the mix. Add to that that I
have a Rockford, Ill. radio chart with the Dantes' "Connection" near
the top, making me think they were a Rockford group! The songs have
writer credits of "Weber" in the Jamie 45 songs, but that name does
not appear on the Main Line 45. Maybe MopTop Mike can help?? The
Jamie 45 has a great harmony/garagy sound on the A side, while the
flip, an instrumental, is a great Yardbirds raving ripoff! Seldom
see a clean copy of this, so hope we can get the location cleared up
of this group and some clean sound!!
Thanks, Clark
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 14:57:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Norm D Plume
Subject: Elton John's Demos
This news won't be of much use to any S'Popper living outside the UK
(and it may not be of much use to anyone living in the UK as I'm
writing this late on Sunday when most shops have shut) but today's
issue of The Express on Sunday was giving away a free CD of early
Elton John covers (as discussed at some length in recent posts). The
CD features his versions of "Signed, Sealed, Delivered", "Love of The
Common People", "Young Gifted & Black", "Can't Tell The Bottom From
The Top", "Up Around The Bend", etc.
It shouldn't be too difficult to pick up a copy of this CD somewhere,
eBay will probably be flooded with them soon. I didn't get one
myself, partly because I'm indifferent to Elton John, but mainly
because I detest the Express newspaper group...... Interesting choice
of music to attract readers, however. I wonder what they consider
their reader "demo"graphic to be?
Norm D.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:15:41 -0000
From: Will Stos
Subject: Re: It's So Fine: Pye Girls Are Go!
Mick Patrick wrote:
> ... "It's So Fine: Pye Girls Are Go!", a 50-track double CD due for
> release on Sanctuary in a couple of weeks ... selling for under £9
> on Amazon ... An e-card has been designed to promote it. It's kinda
> cute, with sound samples. Take a look, why not:
> http://www.sanctuaryrecords.co.uk/itssofine/ ... Track list ...
> Any questions?
Of course...
> 4. Two Of Each – Colour My World
Is this the Petula Clark song?
> 12. The Ferris Wheel – B.A.B.Y.
The Carla Thomas song?
> 13. Val McKenna – Mixed-Up, Shook-Up Girl
Better known by Patti and the Emblems
> 15. Jeannie & The Big Guys – Boys
The Shirelles/Beatles song?
> 19. Antoinette – Lullaby Of Love
Also done by the Poppies?
And speaking of British covers of American hits, does anyone know if
songs were ever offered simultaneously across the pond or did
producers just keep an eye on the American charts?
Will : )
(eagerly awaiting the release date!)
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 21:39:18 -0000
From: Bob Radil
Subject: Re: Jack jumped over the radio
Country Paul wrote:
> An era passes ... Friday, June 3, 2005: [headline] New York City
> and Chicago both get a "Jack" [sub-headline]Infinity blows up
> oldies icons WCBS-FM and WJMK ... Boston and Philly correspondents,
> your oldies outlets are also owned by the same corporation,
> Infinity. Be very afraid. Sigh.
One of the dumbest moves in radio history. To take something that is
working and break it.
Although they're no longer at their peak they're still doing good.
Infinity has a couple other FMs that arent doing as well. Why not
change one of them? But to change a heritage format, one that's still
in the top 10, one that they've been doing for over 30 years with
some of the country's best radio personalities, and to plug in what
sounds like nothing more than a standalone PC running WinAmp, it's
beyond my comprehension. It's not just a bad programming move, it's a
bad business move.
To read more comments, click:
http://musicradio.computer.net/anotherboard/wwwboard/
Bob Radil
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 22:32:00 +0100
From: Frank Murphy
Subject: Pirate radio themes
I was going to say the pirates were no more adventurous than any other
radio station that accepted money to play records but here's a piece
from the Radio London website on Image and other themes.
http://www.radiolondon.co.uk/caroline/scrap60/p6scrap60.html
FrankM
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 23:22:19 -0500
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Re: Philly Project / The Dantes
Margaret G Still wrote:
> Is this the same Dantes who did a nice cover of the Jagger-Richards
> song "Connection" on Main Line 1366?
Neal Umphred's Goldmine 45 RPM Guide (3rd Edition) has two Dantes.
The first group had one single each on Courtney (Zebra Shoot) and
Jamie (80-96); the other group had singles on Rotate (Top Down Time),
Cameo (Under My Thumb), and Main Line (Connection).
But David Coyle posted this on Bomp back in 2001:
Regarding the Dantes' "80-96," this was the b-side of "Can't Get
Enough Of Your Love," which has been covered by the likes of the
Fleshtones and the Insect. Very Yardbirds-like instrumental. The 45
came out on Jamie, which I think was also Duane Eddy's label. Top
of that, they were from Columbus, Ohio.
The followup was a version of the Stones' "Under My Thumb," backed
by "Can I Get A Witness?" on Cameo.
By 1967, the Dantes were riding the revivalist wagon, in the wake of
groups like The New Vaudeville Band and Sopwith Camel. The b-side of
yet another Stones cover, "Connection" is a good-timey megaphone
wailer called "Satisfied."
Regardless of the liner notes for "Highs In The Mid-Sixties," they're
not the same Dantes that recorded "Top Down Time."
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 00:56:43 EDT
From: Bill George
Subject: Bergen White
If it hasn't been noted yet, I noticed that Bergen White did the
arrangements for country singer Robbie Fulks latest CD, Georgia Hard.
I can highly recommend it, as well as all of Robbie's releases.
Bill
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 00:59:29 EDT
From: Bill George
Subject: Re: Crystal Clear - NOT
Previously on S'pop:
> Mike Condello's "Condello" on the Scepter label is a '60s delight,
> and its CD reissue is long overdue. "Crystal Clear" is a beautiful
> track, in the tradition of "Yesterday" and "Here, There And
> Everywhere." It is a shame it was left off of Jackie's release.
Can anyone play Condello's original to musica? I've not heard it, and
it would be nice to compare with Jackie's version.
Bill
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:52:40 +0100
From: Peter Richmond
Subject: A few questions for Alan O'Day
Welcome aboard, Alan.
Could you possibly give an insight into your song "Rock N Roll Heaven"
recorded by the Righteous Brothers.
I would be interested to know who thought that the song might be
suitable for their comeback single when they reformed in 1974, quite
unlike anything they had recorded previously. A very wise decision
though, as it was of course a massive hit, peaking at number three in
the US chart.
It should be pointed out that probably the main reason that "Rock N
Roll Heaven" didn't chart in the UK, was that "Top Of The Pops", the
main and highly influential TV programme, was off air at the time due
to some kind of industrial action (can't remember exactly the issue).
I understand that the song was originally recorded by Climax,
although I have never heard this version (any chance of anyone
uploading it to Muisca) and would like to know if the arrangement and
lyrics, differed in any way to the Righteous Brothers version.
Also, did you re-write the lyrics when the Righteous Brothers
performed a superb slowed down version on the American Bandstand 25th
Anniversary Show in 1981 and also when they re-recorded the song in
1991 for Curb Records.
Peter.
www.righteousbrothersdiscography.com
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:37:37 -0000
From: Lyn Nuttall
Subject: Re: A tale of two songs: I'm Counting On You
Mick Patrick on "I'm Counting On You":
> the song of that title recorded by Johnny Nash was written by
> Alicia Evelyn. Johnny O'Keefe recorded a cover version of the same
> song for the Australian market
Mick, thanks a million for confirming both of these facts. The history
has been rewritten with credit to you:
http://www.poparchives.com.au/feature.php?id=398
If you were able to play Johnny Nash's recording to musica, I know a
lot of Spectropop members down here would be fascinated to hear it,
especially those of us who long believed that our Johnny O'Keefe's
version was the original.
Lyn
at www.PopArchives.com.au
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:22:44 -0800
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Thurl
In response to the recent death of Thurl Ravenscroft, I digitized a
couple of tracks I had on him (on cassette, via Thurl collector Bob
Purse), and posted them to my Probe site. Also there is a link for a
little photo gallery I cobbled together, and links to some Thurl websites.
Below is a discog. of some 45s that featured him, although I doubt it
is anywhere near complete. Note, though, that given the depth of his
basso profundo voice, which made typical bass singers sound almost
like castrati by comparison, any track that featured him in the lead
was almost inevitably doomed to novelty status.
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Betty Blake & Thurl Ravenscroft: Out Of Line / Are You Mine (Abbott
3005, 1955)
Roberta Lee & Thurl Ravenscroft: Wing Ding Ding / You Wanna Talk About Texas (X 0185, 1956)
Thurl Ravenscroft: Five Little Angels / Jingle Polka (Allied 5013,
19??)
Thurl Ravenscroft: I Ain't Afraid / Oh You Sweet One (Bally 1008,
1956)
Thurl Ravenscroft & George Bruns: Paul Bunyan (Disneyland 90, 1958)
Thurl Ravenscroft & Ranger Chorus: Roll Along (Unto The Sea) / Ten Who
Dared (Vista 364, 1960)
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Dig,
--Phil
http://www.philxmilstein.com/probe
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:03:38 -0000
From: Lex Marsh
Subject: Re: Tourists and Summer.
Julio Niño wrote:
> Migratory birds arriving or the fields turning gold, could be in
> some places the signals of the approaching of Summer. Here in
> Madrid the main sign is the sprouting of tourists in the streets.
> I´ve always found tourists interesting (specially if they are young
> and good looking). Of course that´s a common feeling, tourism has
> always been an erotic phenomenon in Spain, particularly in the
> sixties. Tourism and tourists is an frequent subject in Spanish
> sixties pop. There are many songs about that matter, one of my
> favorites, is the ultra-rare and mega-kitsch "Turista" (tourist) by
> Spanish ye ye girl Mony (Fontana, 1967). Mony sings (or more
> properly howls) that she´s in love with a tourist, although she
> can´t understand a word of what he says, and she can´t even
> recognize his language, (of course that could be an advantage in
> many cases, unlike what´s commonly said I´ve always thought that a
> certain dose of lack of communication can be beneficial in erotic
> relations). If someone out there helps me, I´ll try to play Mony´s
> musical aberration in musica for your amusement.
I have that song "Turista" by Mony on a cassette recorded from a CD
which was earlier burned from a 45. I love it and agree that the
vocal must be heard to be believed. What is it with the strident
singing on so many Spanish ye-ye discs? Is it my cultural bias or
did the Spanish public have a high tolerance for that vocal style?
My favorite Spanish record about tourism is "El turista 1.999.999" by
Los Stop, featuring the lovably strident singing of Cristina. In the
1960s, apparently, the 2,000,000th tourist to arrive in Spain was
given an award & lots of special attention. The song by Los Stop
tells about what happened to the unappreciated tourist who arrived
just before the 2,000,000th one. The number 1,999,999 is just as
difficult to sing in Spanish as it would be in English, but Cristina
pulls it off with a lot of Iberian panache.
Leaving the ye-ye period, but not leaving Spain, the disco duo
Baccara released many a track concerned with holiday liaisons
including "Parlez-vous Francais?" and the super-sexy "Darling." I
used to think the song "Darling" was seriously kinky because I heard
the opening (English) lyrics as "Those guys from Amsterdam / Four
girls from Birmingham" and thought the song was a lurid tale of a
holiday seaside orgy. Later I found out the real lyrics re "Postcards
from Amsterdam / Phone calls from Birmingham..." Still a sexy song,
but only two people are involved!
Lex
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:04:40 EDT
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: Jack jumped over the radio
I am crying. In spite of 10 commercial announcements to every song
played and an EXTREMELY limited rotation, Oldies 104.3 was the
station for me to sing along with in the car. Whether it was Crystal
Blue Persuasion or just Suspicion, whether it was Beginnings or The
End of the World, I always looked to 104.3 for solace and just plain
long drive music background. Fortunately, thanks to many of you, I
now have so many 6Ts CD comps that $$$$-grubbing radio conglomerates
such as we have today have been rendered thoroughly useless. Groove
on gang!!!
Bobster
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 00:13:58 -0400
From: ACJ
Subject: Re: It's So Fine: Pye Girls Are Go!
Mick Patrick wrote:
> ... "It's So Fine: Pye Girls Are Go!", a 50-track double CD due for
> release on Sanctuary in a couple of weeks ... selling for under £9
> on Amazon ... An e-card has been designed to promote it. It's kinda
> cute, with sound samples. Take a look, why not:
> http://www.sanctuaryrecords.co.uk/itssofine/ ... Track list ...
> Any questions?
Mick: I assume Dana Gillespie's "Pay You Back With Interest" is the
Hollies song? I've always wanted to hear a female singer try that one.
ACJ
"Optimism works. It is more useful than pessimism." - E.Y. Harburg
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:34:54 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: The Songs Of Lori Burton
Of course, there may well be no recorded versions of the Lori
Burton compositions on the following list, but if such things
do exist, I'm gagging to know about them. Do these song titles
ring a bell with anyone?
Baby My Lovin'
Don't Make It Hurt
Have A Heart
Hurt
I Can't Take It No Longer
I Can't Wait
I Let Myself Believe It's Love
I'll Move Heaven And Earth
I Need You To Love Me
I Pretend He's You
Love Can Be A Bad Thing*
Never Had No Toys
Shadow Of A Man
The Hurt's Too Deep
Why Can't I Love Him
You Gotta Say Something More
You Put A Need In Me
You Took The Love
I Need Lovin' You
Lickin' Stick
In the meantime, I ain't gonna eat out my heart anymore. Ha!
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:05:26 -0000
From: Joop Jansen
Subject: Re: Image
Simon White wrote:
> Other UK Spectropoppers will know better than I, but wasn't the
> tune used as the theme to someone's show here on Radio Caroline
> in the 1960s? - I have another version by Alan Haven, so it might
> have been that one, as the other side of the 45 is titled "Romance
> On The North Sea".
Indeed Simon, Alan Haven's version of "Image" was used by DJ Bob
Stewart as his theme for Caroline North. Even the B-side of that
single: "Romance On the North Sea" was used as a closing theme in the
evening hours on Caroline North.
http://www.offshoreechos.com/offshorethemes/deejays%20R-S.htm
http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/
Joop Jansen
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:48:44 +0100
From: Richard Havers
Subject: Re: Pirate radio themes
Frank Murphy wrote:
> I was going to say the pirates were no more adventurous than any
> other radio station that accepted money to play records but here's
> a piece from the Radio London website on Image and other themes.
UK listeners will know Mike Read, formerly of Radio 1 and all sorts
of other radio stations. Mike called me today to tell me that he's
back broadcasting on Radio London
www.bigl.co.uk
He says that he's playing a proper mix of music, he's even getting
to pick what he plays, without a playlist - now there's something
revolutionary! Today he said he played The Critters, Scott Walker
and Tin Tin's 'Toast and Marmalade for Tea' amongst others. It's not
all 60s as they are playing 70s, 80s, 90s and the best of today.
It could certainly be worth a listen, especially as Mike has
eclectic taste. You can listen on line at the above url.
In the course of our conversation I told him about the amazing new
Saint Etienne album, which for lovers of harmony pop is a pure joy,
especially 'Side Streets' which I think features the brilliant Tony
Rivers. This is the kind of record that if I were on the radio I
would play three times in a row. Expect to hear it on Radio London
anytime soon.
Richard
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 02:08:14 -0000
From: Will Stos
Subject: How to Buy Girl Group Records / Ace Website
Hello all,
I just got finished with Mick Patrick's guide on girl group releases
on the Ace website:
http://www.acerecords.co.uk/content.php?page_id=196
I own most of them, but there are a few I'll be sure to pick up. A
couple of questions for Mick and everyone else who compiles these
collections: Do you present your ideas for these CDS, or are you
drafted by the label? Some of the comps out there, especially theme
specific ones like the recent release of the Black experience of the
Vietnam War through music are quite interesting. Are you ever unable
to get the songs you want, and do you find dealing with one company
or rights holder is easily than multiple groups? Once a label like
Ace is allowed to reissue a track, can they use it on subsequent
compilations provided the same royalty formula, or do they have to
check every time? Do you get any say on its design, or do you simply
give them your liner notes and memorabillia and let a designer go to
work. And is there any rough release schedule for series like Where
The Girls Are or Early Girls, or are they just sporadically released.
Before the Internet made things easier to order, I would always
eagerly anticipate trips to the big city record shops to see what was
available.
Will : )
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:02:23 +0100
From: Richard Havers
Subject: Saint Etienne
Further to my post on the brilliance of Saint Etienne's 'Side
Streets' I just had this from T. Rivers esq.
"Credit where it's due Side Streets vocals arranged by me AND
Anthony all backing voices on this track are Anthony (don't mention
that) and it's brilliant."
Anthony being Tony's son who is one of the most underrated and
gifted harmony vocalists we have in Britain....it must be in the
genes.
Richard
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:19:12 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Philly Project / The Dantes
Clark Besch:
> I have a Rockford, Ill. radio chart with the Dantes' "Connection"
> near the top, making me think they were a Rockford group!
Tom Tourville's Chicago book lists them as being from Des Plaines.
However, it also lists releases on Jamie, Cameo and Main Line as
being that same group. His books often had many inaccuracies.
gem
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:45:43 -0700
From: Kim Cooper
Subject: October is International Bubblegum Month
October is International Bubblegum Month
Interested? Visit http://www.scrammagazine.com/october.html
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