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There are 21 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: "I'm Gonna Find Me An Ugly Man To Love...."
From: Paul Underwood
2. Re: Artists on tour
From: Phil Hall
3. Jeff Barry's "Bulldog" acetate
From: Laura Pinto
4. Penny Candy
From: Sophia
5. Re: RIP Chet Helms
From: Clark Besch
6. Re: Live "Smile"
From: Irving Snodgrass
7. Re: Penny Candy
From: Phil Hall
8. Re: Penny Candy
From: Peter Lerner
9. Re: Goldie & the Gingerbreads
From: Mick Patrick
10. Re: "I'm Gonna Find Me An Ugly Man To Love...."
From: Norm D Plume
11. Re: Ann D'Andrea
From: Howard Earnshaw
12. Georgie Woods, Philadelphia DJ and civil rights leader
From: Phil X Milstein
13. Good behind the glass
From: Phil X Milstein
14. Re: Goldie & the Gingerbreads
From: Will Stos
15. Foreign Tongue inquiry
From: Phil X Milstein
16. Re: Arranged by Jimmie Haskell
From: Clark Besch
17. Chicago Bands
From: Mike Bennidict
18. Re: Ann D'Andre[a]
From: Kingsley Abbott
19. Re: Arranged by Jimmie Haskell
From: Peter Lerner
20. pupils and robots
From: Julio Niño
21. two Austin Roberts rarities
From: Peter McCray
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:55:00 +0200
From: Paul Underwood
Subject: Re: "I'm Gonna Find Me An Ugly Man To Love...."
Norm D Plume wrote:
> Can anyone please help with details of a song that's lately been
> bugging me to the point of a minor neurosis? It came out around
> 1969, and is by a woman singer, probably American. It features the
> memorable line, "Ain't gonna drink no more marijuana, smoke no more
> red (white?) wine...", with the refrain, "Gonna put on my walking
> shoes, walk down the avenues...I'm gonna find an ugly man to love".
1970 actually. The record you heard was probably by Sylvia McNeill who
was British, I would guess. Produced by Jack Good and written by Jim
Ford, the song's too god not to have been recorded by other people.
Are there other versions out there?
Paul
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:51:57 -0000
From: Phil Hall
Subject: Re: Artists on tour
Country Paul wrote:
> Bobby Vee, Johnny Tillotson, Fabian, Brian Hyland and The Chiffons
> are scheduled to appear Saturday, September 3rd, [2005,] at the
> Spotlight 29 Casino in Palm Springs, CA.
Bobby Vee is on tour this summer, as are many other 60's acts. Also
on tour are Lou Christie, Martha Reeves & The Vandellas, Carole King,
The Everly Brothers and Chuck Berry, to name just a few. And the
Pixies Three are still performing; primarily in the Hanover, PA area,
although they occasionally perform elsewhere. I use Pollstar
( http://www.pollstar.com ) to see who's playing where and when.
According to Pollstar, Fabian, Brian Hyland and The Chiffons are not
on tour, so this concert may be a one-off for them. I would LOVE to
hear Judy Craig sing.
Phil H.
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:50:36 -0000
From: Laura Pinto
Subject: Jeff Barry's "Bulldog" acetate
Hi S'poppers,
I had a listen to "Bulldog" in musica yesterday (fantastic sound
quality from that old acetate!) and, after hearing it, was 90% sure
that it's Jeff Barry himself on lead vocals. Wanting to be 100%
sure, I forwarded the track to Mr. Barry himself, who verified it. So
there you have it - that is indeed Jeff doing the singing on this
Jeff Barry/Ben Raleigh composition. (These guys were also responsible
for my sentimental favorite, "Tell Laura I Love Her," and I'd give
anything to hear Jeff singing the demo on that one, although I don't
know whether he did or not.)
Thanks,
Laura
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:32:15 -0000
From: Sophia
Subject: Penny Candy
First of all--hi! I've belonged to Spectropop for a while, but have
never posted until now. (I guess I get a little intimidated!)
Anyway. Digging through my dad's wonderful 45's (I'm seventeen), I
came across and fell in love with Penny Candy's "The Rockin' Lady"/
"Why Each Night." A couple of requests immerge from this recent
infatuation:
1) I've googled all over the place, but can't find any biographical
information. Is there anything interesting about her? I'm curious.
2) I would absolutely love to have this song as an mp3, but I don't
have the capability of ripping vinyl. I found out it's on volume 3 of
Rockin' Boppin' Ladies (a series that, based on tracklistings I've
seen, looks awesome!), but that doesn't help me because I can't seem
to find a place that sells it online. So I guess this branches off in
two directions -- where could I buy a CD compilation that has this
song on it...or...would anyone do me the gigantic favor of sending/
uploading it?
Thank you so much. This site and all the people who post here are
incredible, and I've definitely enjoyed my lurking.
-sophia
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:46:05 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: RIP Chet Helms
Country Paul wrote:
> From the AP, 06/26/2005 19:40:54 EST. Music Promoter Who Launched
> Joplin Dies. SAN FRANCISCO - Chet Helms, the revered father of the
> 1967 Summer of Love and a music promoter who launched the career of
> singer Janis Joplin, has died of complications from a stroke.
> "Without Chet, there would be no Grateful Dead, no Big Brother and
> the Holding Company, no Jefferson Airplane, no Country Joe & the
> Fish, no Quicksilver Messenger Service," said Barry Melton, the
> lead guitarist for Country Joe & the Fish.
Paul, I never knew of Mr. Helms, but I would not have wanted the
summer of 67 music any different, and obviously, without Chet, it
would have been very different, as would the following years! Rest
in peace, hippie friend.
Clark
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:36:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Irving Snodgrass
Subject: Re: Live "Smile"
Florence Gray wrote:
> Thanks for the heads-up. I'm new here, so please forgive me if this
> is an old question BUT...has anyone attended any of Brian's SMILE
> performances? I have tickets to see him in August and am counting
> the days. Saw the PET SOUNDS symphonic tour a few years back and,
> although he seemed to be phoning in the performance, it was amazing
> just to be breathing his air. Any reviews on the SMILE performance?
My wife & saw Smile last year at the State Theatre in Ann Arbor, MI.
It was the best live performance by anyone I've ever seen. Brian was
really invoved and enjoying the audience response. Am so happy for
him as I recall seing Brian years back with the Beach Boys in very
sad circumstances. Back in the 1970's or 1980's he would be sitting
at a keyboard in a near stupor just pawing the keys.
Ken Haller
Walled Lake, MI
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:12:04 -0000
From: Phil Hall
Subject: Re: Penny Candy
Sophia wrote:
> Digging through my dad's wonderful 45's (I'm seventeen), I came
> across and fell in love with Penny Candy's "The Rockin' Lady"/"Why
> Each Night." ...
Sophia, You can order the CD from:
http://www.totorecords.com/rockin_boppin_ladies_v3.htm I've bought
CD's from Salvatore before, and he's reputable. He doesn't list his
prices, but he'll send them if you e-mail him. Last time I checked
they were all 15 Euros, plus shipping. I think the CD is a bootleg.
Phil H.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 20:33:43 +0100
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: Re: Penny Candy
Sophia was asking about Penny Candy "The rockin' lady" (from New
Orleans). If you go to the following link, Sophia, you will find
details of Penny's second single and also 4 compilation CDs featuring
her material: http://rcs.law.emory.edu/rcs/artists/c/cand1000.htm
Best of luck!
Peter
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 20:52:35 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Goldie & the Gingerbreads
Tim Rolls:
> Does anyone know whether Goldie & The Gingerbreads ever made an
> album, or whether a compilation was ever made (LP or, preferably,
> CD). If so, does anyone have any details?
Tony Leong:
> Tim: Though Goldie and the Gingerbreads recorded lots of sides
> for Scepter and Atlantic affiliates in the mid-60's, they never
> had an LP out in the US or UK. Currently, there is no Gingerbreads
> compilation available (nobody ever got one together). Their cuts
> appear on some Uk Cd's though. Recently, I gave on of those CD's
> to Genya and Margo and they hadn't heard some of those tracks since
> the '60's when they recorded them!!!!!!
For a time, Goldie & the Gingerbreads were signed simultaneously to
Decca in the UK and Atco/Atlantic in the USA. Recently, I inherited
some books - the four volume set of Atlantic Records: A Discography,
compiled by Michel Ruppli for Greenwood Press in 1979). Catalogued
therein are the following Goldie & the Gingerbreads recordings, none
of which have ever been released:
Goldie & the Gingerbreads’ Unissued Atco Recordings
June 1965:
Look For Me Baby (master # 9018)
I See You’ve Come Again (master # 9019)
Sporting Life (master # 9021)
Instrumental I (master # 9022)
Instrumental II (master # 9023)
Instrumental III (master # 9024)
Something Beautiful (master # 9040)
Look For Me Baby (master # 9069)
Baby (master # 9072)
May 1966:
Count On Me (master # 10319)
I'm Gonna Tell Them At The ASPSA (master # 10320)
In an ideal world Goldie (Genya) and her pals would have a CD
available. Who knows, maybe someone can get it together. In the
meantime, I’ve posted a track to musica. Details are:
Goldie & the Gingerbreads "Sailor Boy" (UK Decca F.12199, 1965),
written by Gerry Goffin and Russ Titelman, produced by Shel Talmy/
Anim Productions. Some of you migght know the song by the Chiffons.
The two versions are very different.Follow this URL to listen:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Any questions?
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:24:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Norm D Plume
Subject: Re: "I'm Gonna Find Me An Ugly Man To Love...."
Paul Underwood:
> 1970 actually. The record you heard was probably by Sylvia McNeill
> who was British, I would guess. Produced by Jack Good and written
> by Jim Ford, the song's too god not to have been recorded by other
> people. Are there other versions out there?
Well Paul, that's impressive, thanks so much for the response. Now
all I need to know is: who is Sylvia McNeill? Is Jim Ford the "Harlan
County" Jim Ford? And where can you get the record. S'Pop is often
such a joy....
Norm
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:15:23 EDT
From: Howard Earnshaw
Subject: Re: Ann D'Andrea
Peter Lerner:
> ... my one Ann D'Andrea 45 (Jamie 1325) has the much-recorded
> "Take me for a little while" on the A side, coupled with a Bob
> Finiz song "Don't send him away" on the flip. Both are arr. and
> cond. Charles Calello but no obvious Madara & White involvement.
Ann had at least one more single on the Jamie label, 'Don't Stop
Looking', I haven't got it to hand so can't confirm writing/
production credits, sorry.
Howard
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:59:15 -0500
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Georgie Woods, Philadelphia DJ and civil rights leader
Georgie Woods, D.J. and Rights Leader, Dies at 78
by The Associated Press
June 26, 2005
Philadelphia, June 23 -- Georgie Woods, who as a disc jockey
introduced Philadelphia to the sounds of Stevie Wonder and the
Temptations and became a prominent local voice of the civil rights
movement, died on June 18 in Boynton Beach, Fla.. He was 78. The
cause was probably a heart attack, said Mr. Woods's companion, Doris
Harris. Known on the radio as "the guy with the goods," Mr. Woods
came to Philadelphia from New York in 1953 and used the airwaves of
WDAS-AM and WHAT-AM to bring the city emerging talents like the
Temptations and Michael Jackson. In the 1960's he would sometimes
stop the music for hours on WDAS to talk about civil rights and the
work of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., recalled Joe Tamburro,
the station's former general manager. Mr. Woods marched in Selma,
Ala., with King and helped charter 21 buses to take Philadelphians to
Dr. King's March on Washington in 1963. "In the 1950's and the
1960's, he was it -- the person everyone listened to," said W. Wilson
Goode, the mayor of Philadelphia from 1984 to 1991. "He was an
outstanding community and civil rights leader." In 1986, Mr. Woods,
who was black, sparked tensions with Asian-Americans when he
advocated that blacks support black-owned businesses instead of those
owned by Koreans. He served as a vice president of the local
N.A.A.C.P. chapter. In 1967 he ran for a seat on the Philadelphia
City Council, narrowly losing to the incumbent, Thomas M. Foglietta.
Mr. Woods was planning to travel to Philadelphia in November to be
inducted into the Broadcast Pioneers Hall of Fame, said Kal Rudman, a
former WDAS disc jockey. In addition to Ms. Harris, Mr. Woods is
survived by their daughter, Devin Simms of Hempstead, N.Y.; his wife,
Gilda Woods, and their son, George Woods Jr., both of Philadelphia;
two daughters from an earlier marriage; a brother, and four
grandchildren.
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:45:30 -0800
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Good behind the glass
Paul Underwood wrote:
> 1970 actually. The record you heard was probably by Sylvia McNeill
> who was British, I would guess. Produced by Jack Good and written
> by Jim Ford, the song's too god not to have been recorded by other
> people.
Interesting! I'd never heard of Good having done any record
production. Anyone know of other sessions he might've produced?
--Phil M.
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 03:42:57 -0000
From: Will Stos
Subject: Re: Goldie & the Gingerbreads
Mick Patrick wrote:
> Goldie & the Gingerbreads "Sailor Boy" (UK Decca F.12199, 1965),
> written by Gerry Goffin and Russ Titelman, produced by Shel Talmy/
> Anim Productions. Some of you migght know the song by the Chiffons.
> The two versions are very different.
I like this version, but I think the super-slow take by the Chiffons
suits the lyrics better. Man, Russ Titelman really needs his own
compilation. His songs are so good!
Will : )
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:40:45 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Foreign Tongue inquiry
Passing along an inquiry from a friend. Please respond directly to
Jennifer, at sharpe[@]sharpeworld.com.
-----
I'm working on an NPR story that could possibly benefit from your
collective expertise.
The story is about artists who recorded their well known songs in
foreign languages, a phenomenon that seems to have peaked in the
1960s. For example, David Bowie recorded "Space Oddity" in Italian,
Johnny Cash did a version of "I Walk The Line" in German, and Chicago
sang "Questions 67 & 68" in Japanese.
So far, I've gotten some good anecdotes from David Bowie's former
producer, Tony Visconti, who told me a bit about recording "Helden"
("Heroes" in German) and "Regazzo Solo" ("Space Oddity" in Italian).
Now I'm looking to find out more about some of the other recordings
(of which I know, there are hundreds), interesting details about what
went into making them. I'm also trying to get a sense of the history
of the phenomenon and how these recording were received at the time.
Any ideas or anecdotes or people I should contact?
Please reply ONLY to this ema: sharpe[@]sharpeworld.com
Thanks In advance,
Jennifer Sharpe
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 06:47:34 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Arranged by Jimmie Haskell
Mick Patrick:
> ... I'm curious about on which specific tracks Haskell was
> involved, and in what capacity.
Mick, while doing some research on something else, an article caught
my eye on Jimmie Haskell. From 9/18/65 Cashbox, it mentions that
well know for his arranging, he was entering the production field
too. He was negotiating with Liberty's A&R head, Dave Pell. He
would be freelancing since his Capitol arranger contract had just
expired. It said he would continue working with the Lettermen and
Wayne Newton who he had current hits with on charts at the time. It
mentioned his past performances as arranger, conductor and film
composer with 9 scores to the moment including Bob Hope's "I'll Take
Sweden". He had been Lew Chudd's A&R man from 57 to 60 at Imperial.
He produced 8 gold discs for Ricky Nelson. His most recent production
of note was World Artists' Chad & Jeremy Lp, "Sing for You" which had
3 chart items including "If I Loved You". The article concluded that
Haskell would be mainly working in the new liberty setup with Dick
Bock's expanding World Pacific label. Hope this info is of help!
Clark
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:17:25 -0000
From: Mike Bennidict
Subject: Chicago Bands
Some of these bands were known but you may not know these particular
songs unless you lived in the Chicago area.
* The Buckinghams had a number of hits like Kind Of a Drag and Don't
You Care but how about these? If you Leave Me I'll Go Crazy, a James
Brown cover was their first local hit. Don't know if this one made
the national charts but it's Beatle's cover that goes something like
You know if you brake my heart in two, can't think of the title to
it.
* The American Breed had a few local hits including You Gotta Step
Out of Your Mind.
* Many might think of The New Colony 6 being a ballot group but in
the mid-60s when the started they put out more rock stuff like I
Confess and You're Gonna Be Mine.
*The Maudes: Now here's one that I think were only local and one of
their hits was a cover of Sam and Dave's 1966 hit Hold On I'm Coming
recorded a year later.
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:04:25 +0100
From: Kingsley Abbott
Subject: Re: Ann D'Andre[a]
Peter Lerner wrote:
> My one Ann D'Andrea 45 (Jamie 1325) has the much-recorded
> "Take Me For A Little While" on the A-side, coupled with a Bob
> Finiz song, "Don't Send Him Away," on the flip. Both are arr.
> and cond. Charles Calello but no obvious M/W involvement.
Thanks for this info, Peter -- that's certainly one I didn't know of. Having
searched my inner sanctum, I've found my single by Ann D'Andre (note slightly
different spelling -- I assume it's the same lady).
"Johnny's Back In Town" (wr. Huff/Carl/Terry) b/w "He's The Boy" (wr. Madara/
White) -- Philips 40182. Both sides marked as pr. Madara/White, and both
arr. Madara/White/Lovett. Two very nice girlie vocal sides.
So that's two Ann D'A singles -- anyone know of any more?
Kingsley
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:44:53 +0100
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: Re: Arranged by Jimmie Haskell
Mick Patrick wrote:
> ... I'm curious about on which specific tracks Haskell was
> involved, and in what capacity.
Haskell also arranged (and co-wrote) many of the tracks for the soundtrack
of the Jackie DeShannon / Bobby Vinton "Surf Party" movie.
Peter
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:54:48 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: pupils and robots
Hola, everybody.
I'm on holidays (till September, lots of time for vampire living: getting
up very late, lazing around in my crypt by day, wandering by night and
getting paler every passing day).
Some weeks ago Will Stos wrote in a post that he often recriminates his
friends for their taste in music. Just a few days ago an anecdote reminded
me of those words in a curious and fun way. One of the last days of class
my pupils (they are 16 to 17 years old) were filling out a test about my
subject. While they were doing the test I played some music to make the
session nicer. It was a compilation I had made for the occasion that
included songs like "Teacher's Pet", in Johnny Mathis' version, "I've
Got A Crush On Teacher"by The Fawns and "Profesor" by Alicia Granados.
Of course the compilation was made without malice -- you know that I'm
not capable of that. I would have loved to include more songs about the
topic (pupil in love with the teacher) but I couldn't remember anymore,
maybe someone could add some more.
Anyway, the two songs in English didin't catch the attention of my pupils,
but Alicia's song did. In the track 12 years old Alicia sings that she can't
concentrate on studying , because her teacher is too sexy and she's always
having fantasies about him, and when he asks her something she gets so
nervous that she can't speak a word. When they listened to that song some
of them laughed and others menaced with denouncing me for cruelty, for
forcing them to listen to such an horror.
At the end of the class, one of my favorite pupils came to hand in the test
and said to me with a perverse smile: "Prof, you are rather nice, but you
have a really horrendous taste in music". That comment amused me a lot.
Maybe (if Mick is not definitely fed up with me) I will play Alicia's track
in musica in some days.
Chao.
Julio Niño
P.S. I'm heavily in love with a new tin robot I've just bought. He has shiny
metallic skin, and an inexpressive face with a big open mouth that reminds
me of a inflatable doll. I realize that I really need some holidays because
I found it irresistibly sexy.
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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:36:36 +1000
From: Peter McCray
Subject: two Austin Roberts rarities
I wonder if any Spectropoppers might be able to help out with a couple of
Austin Roberts rarities that none of us from the Austin Roberts group have
been able to come up with from our respective collections. (Or find anywhere
else for that matter, though not for want of some serious searching!)
The tracks are:
"The Other Side" -- B-side to Austin's "One Night Ann," released on Philips
40660, 1970
unknown -- B-side to "Haunted" by Tuesday, Buddah 495, 1975
Tuesday was a duo -- Austin Roberts and Robert John -- and recorded and
released just this one 45. This really is a bit of a rarity, and the B-side
track is literally unknown. But there must have been one!
Any help would be much appreciated!
Thanks
Peter
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