Spectropop - Digest Number 1991

• From: Spectropop Group
• Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005

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There are 17 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: the Crests
           From: George Schowerer 
      2. Chuck Foote
           From: James Botticelli 
      3. Re: the Crests
           From: Gary Myers 
      4. Re: "Phil's Spectre II: Another Wall Of Soundalikes"
           From: Karl Ikola 
      5. Re: Chuck Foote / Arthur
           From: Artie Wayne 
      6. Tupper Saussy / Neon Philharmonic
           From: Skip Woolwine 
      7. Morning Girl Long Version
           From: Sandy Revers 
      8. Re: "Bono Means Good" - Do U Know These Songs?
           From: Frank 
      9. Baseball songs
           From: Dan Hughes 
     10. Re: Question on "The Tokens"
           From: Christopher Cotie 
     11. Re: Chuck Foote
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     12. Re: Tupper Saussy / Neon Philharmonic
           From: David Gofstein 
     13. Re: "Bono Means Good" - Do U Know These Songs?
           From: Rick Hough 
     14. Tupper Saussy; [John] Kongos; C-P Box Set
           From: Country Paul 
     15. Another wall of soundalikes - a wish for vol.3
           From: Peter Andreasen 
     16. Re: Chuck Foote / Arthur
           From: James Botticelli 
     17. Re: Baseball Songs
           From: Mick Patrick 


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Message: 1
   Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:26:26 -0700 (PDT)
   From: George Schowerer 
Subject: Re: the Crests

Artie Wayne:
> Luther Vandross' sister might have been a member of a group called 
> the Crests, but it wasn't the same group who had a series of hits 
> starting with "16 Candles". 

Hello: Beg to differ with you...sort of. At 17 years of age, I worked 
for Regent sound studios (at the time). I was asked to "take care" of 
a demo session coming in that night...do the mixing on supposedly a
simple session. We had only 12 inputs on the console.. and in came a 
full blown orchestra, the Crests (which included four guys and four 
girls singing background). Since I was short of mic channels, I had
the 4 guys placed on one side of an RCA 44-BX mic on bidirectional 
setting so that I could place the 4 girls on the other. It was 
necessary to physically place them at different distances from the 
mic to keep the harmony close to what was needed. We did four tunes 
in a three hour demo session. "16 Candles" was the hit from that 
session. They got to take, take #13 as the keeper which was filed 
until the song sold and became the property of the owner after the 
regular price difference was paid to the studio. So there was a 
situation where there were girls singing with the group..perhaps this 
is the answer to your doubt.

Regards, George Schowerer




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Message: 2         
   Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 12:00:45 -0400
   From: James Botticelli 
Subject: Chuck Foote

Artie Wayne wrote:
> Chuck Foote, who was in "The Wild Ones", as an alternate.

Is that The Wild Ones of the famed Arthur discotheque in NYC in the 
mid 60's?




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Message: 3         
   Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 02:57:36 -0700
   From: Gary Myers 
Subject: Re: the Crests

Artie Wayne:
> Luther Vandross' sister might have been a member of a group called 
> the Crests, but it wasn't the same group who had a series of hits 
> starting with "16 Candles".

Yes, it was. However, she left before they had any hits. Johnny 
Maestro talked about it a little when I saw his show out here (Long 
Beach) several yrs ago. He said that, sometimes when they rehearsed, 
Patricia's little brother was there. Of course, they paid little 
attention to him then, but now they like to think he learned 
something from them, :- )

gem




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Message: 4         
   Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 14:17:02 -0700
   From: Karl Ikola 
Subject: Re: "Phil's Spectre II: Another Wall Of Soundalikes"

Julio Niņo wrote about:
> the wonderful "Philīs Spectre II: Another Wall Of Soundalikes" and
> Iīve been fascinated the whole day listening to it. Itīs a
> superlative collection, full of marvelous tracks that have been
> perfectly sequenced, creating a kind of chain reaction effect.
> Luckily the selectors have strategically inserted the lighter
> tunes, because in some parts of the compilation the succession of
> songs could be suffocatingly beautiful. 

Ray:
> AMAZON tells me that the release date is July 16th in the USA....I
> guess I'll have to wait until then to enjoy what you all are already
> experiencing.

I have a couple copies in stock now (I'm in San Francisco) for $17 
plus postage if anyone stateside wants one. You can email me off-list 
at anopheles@mindspring.com. I take PayPal too. Commercial 
interruption over...KI




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Message: 5         
   Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:50:20 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Artie Wayne 
Subject: Re: Chuck Foote / Arthur

I wrote:
> Chuck Foote, who was in "The Wild Ones", as an alternate.

James Botticelli:
> Is that The Wild Ones of the famed Arthur discotheque in NYC in the 
> mid 60's?

James...How ya'doin'? Yeah, the same Wild Ones from Arthur. Chuck 
Foote, Jordan Christopher and I went to Arthur before it opened. 
Sybil Burton, the owner, was looking for a new band, who was on the 
way up, to open the club. My pals had one of the hottest bands in
town...so it was a perfect match! It wasn't long before Arthur was 
the hottest club in New York and Jordan married Sybil.

regards, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com




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Message: 6         
   Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:19:53 -0500
   From: Skip Woolwine 
Subject: Tupper Saussy / Neon Philharmonic

Christian Steiner wrote:
> Does anybody know if "Are you old enough to remember Dresden" was 
> released on a 45 as well (no matter if as a A- side or flipside)? 
> Have any other singles been taken off the second album by Neon 
> Philharmonic?

Tupper Saussy replies: 
"No, Dresden was never released as a 45."  

(One can assume no singles were released from the 2nd N.P. LP -- Skip)

John Fox asks:
> After listening again to "Morning Girl...Later", I was wondering if 
> you could ask Tupper two questions: What are the last 4 words of 
> the bridge?  The lyrics are so interesting, but these words don't 
> rhyme with anything, and sound like "the bead's a pan", but that 
> can't be right. Also, who is Katherine, referenced in the last 
verse?  It sounds like she is an infant or child of the singer.

Tupper Saussy replies: 
"The last line of the MGL bridge is "But be prepared...."  Who is 
Catherine?  Interesting question.  I took for granted that she was 
the singer's wife, but she could be his girlfriend or his daughter.  
She's more important to him than poor morning girl ~ who was received 
with a sort of judgmental coldness that I regret.
Cheers,
Tupper"




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Message: 7         
   Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:42:05 -0000
   From: Sandy Revers 
Subject: Morning Girl Long Version

I see Musica is full- thanks to John from http://www.the4hubcaps.com/
I have this song by the Neon Philharmonic.  Anyone that wants to hear 
it drop me a line off list and I will forward it along.




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Message: 8         
   Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:09:31 +0200
   From: Frank 
Subject: Re: "Bono Means Good" - Do U Know These Songs?

Rick Hough:
> Can anybody attach an artist/record to any of these Sonny Bono
> songs?

Mick Patrick:
> Mug that I am, I'll accept that challenge...

Mick kills me everytime !! I won't even comment on the more than fab 
"Phil Spectre II" which I just received this morning and which will 
probably end up being rejected by my CD player just fed up with 
playing the same record over and over again... but these answers to 
Rick Hough questions is just too much. I tell you this man is much 
too good for our health.  Is there any way to make sure he is never 
allowed to leave Spectropop ?

Frank






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Message: 9         
   Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:48:19 -0500
   From: Dan Hughes 
Subject: Baseball songs

I'm putting together a CD of songs to be played pregame, postgame, 
between innings, and during the seventh-inning stretch at a minor 
league baseball park, and I'd like some help from the group. I've 
picked the best of the two BASEBALL'S GREATEST HITS albums.  What 
else is out there? Thanks for any suggestions,

---Dan Hughes




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Message: 10        
   Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:12:58 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Christopher Cotie 
Subject: Re: Question on "The Tokens"

Larry Bromley:
> A few years ago, I had the pleasure of seeing a Fourth of July 
> concert with Jay and the Techniques, Tommy Roe and two of the 
> original Tokens. Along with their own songs, including "The Lion 
> Sleeps Tonight", they sang hits they had produced for other musical
> acts. Notable by their absence were hits by Tony Orlando and Dawn, 
> which I  remember had label credits, including songwriting by 
> Margo, Margo, Medress and Siegel, AKA The Tokens, at least the 
> earliest hits. Any idea as to why those Dawn hits might have been 
> left out?

Some of those early Tony Orlando and Dawn recordings were recorded at 
Talentmasters in N.Y. 

Christopher Cotie 




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Message: 11        
   Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:58:59 EDT
   From: Mike Rashkow 
Subject: Re: Chuck Foote

Artie Wayne wrote:
> Chuck Foote, who was in "The Wild Ones", as an alternate.

DJ Jimmy B:
> Is that The Wild Ones of the famed Arthur discotheque in NYC in the 
> mid 60's?

Chuck Foote was also in the Fuzzy Bunnies. What started this. I 
missed it.




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Message: 12        
   Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 17:13:19 -0700 (PDT)
   From: David Gofstein 
Subject: Re: Tupper Saussy / Neon Philharmonic

Previously:
> Have any other singles been taken off the second album by Neon 
> Philharmonic?

Skip Woolwine:
> (One can assume no singles were released from the 2nd Neon 
Philharmonic LP.)

I swear that I recall "No One Is Going To Hurt You" on the lower 
rungs of the top 40 way back in my kidhood. And back in those days, 
the radio stations I listened to didn't play LP cuts!!

Philharmonically yours,

Dave Gofstein




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Message: 13        
   Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:04:04 -0000
   From: Rick Hough 
Subject: Re: "Bono Means Good" - Do U Know These Songs?

Mick Patrick wrote:
> Mug that I am, I'll accept that challenge.

In a more enlightened world Bonology would be a TV game show and Mick 
Patrick would be driving away the brand new Audi!!! What astonishes 
me is the speed at which the man was able to come up with those 
doozys...

> You and Phil M owe me a pint, I think. :-)

The hell with "a pint": we're lobbying the Nobel Committee!!! Hey la 
indeed.

and Frank L wrote:
> ...these answers to Rick Hough questions is just too much. I tell 
> you this man is much too good for our health. Is there any way to 
> make sure he is never allowed to leave Spectropop?

The guy's brain seems to take the technology of search engines to a 
whole new level. He's definitely a keeper, Frank. They shoulda put 
him on Live8.

Thanks Mick. Very much appreciated.




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Message: 14        
   Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:02:57 -0400
   From: Country Paul 
Subject: Tupper Saussy; [John] Kongos; C-P Box Set

Frank J:
> ... More about the fascinating character Tupper Saussy at
> http://www.tuppersaussy.com/

Fascinating website, politically idiosyncratic (putting it politely) 
as well as musically. Of course, starting out with a unique name such 
as his must give one a certain view of life the "John Smiths" among 
us don't have....

Jack and Phil M., re: John Kongos: I agree, Phil, "Tokoloshe Man" 
"got it," too. In fact, that whole Elektra album was pretty fine, 
especially for its time. Too bad he couldn't have made it happen in 
the US. Jack also refers us to www.kongos.com; from there I went to 
Danny Kongos' site, http://kongos.lawofseven.com/danny/ , accompanied 
by a nice selection of the four sons' group, Kongos, and John J. 
Kongos' electronica and more. The sons' band's homepage, 
http://www.kongos.com/home.php , has a stream of samples from their 
EP, very much sylistically related yet evolved from "Dad." A 
worthwhile visit; the talent has flowed from generation to generation.

The CDs of the Cameo Parkway box set have found their way to me, but 
not the liner notes. I've only gotten through the first CD, but there 
are some fascinating hits (and misses) in their catalog in the pre-
Bobby Rydell days. You can hear Mann & Lowe's middle-road roots as 
they transition into rockier material. Billy Scott's "You're The 
Greatest" (which I do remember when new) is sort of a bluesier Johnny 
Mathis track, and the Playboys' "Over The Weekend" crosses a middle-
road song structure with a rock & roll ballad texture. There are 
revelations in rehearing some of the classics, too; I always 
loved "Kissin' Time" by Rydell; the sound of four singers, guitar and
drums - no bass - nevertheless sounds larger than the sum of its 
parts on the Dovells' "Bristol Stomp"; and Chubby Checker's "Pony 
Time" may be enhanced by a better mix, or else I'm just hearing for 
the first time some fine doo-wop vocalizing on this track (from the 
Dreamlovers, I presume) that wouldn't have been out of place done by 
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters. I've also fallen for a few tracks 
unfamiliar to me from their original incarnations, including The 
Storey Sisters' "Bad Motorcycle" (which I'd heard of but never heard 
till last year) and the Buddy Holly sound of "Birds N' Bees" by The 
Temptations. Question: are these the same Temptations that did 
"Baw-bwa" - 'scuse me, "Barbara" - on Goldisc? I seem to hear the same
vocal texture and Noo Yawk accent from the lead singer.

Country Paul
[you can tell I'm playing catch-up again]




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Message: 15        
   Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 09:16:26 -0000
   From: Peter Andreasen 
Subject: Another wall of soundalikes - a wish for vol.3

What a great collection of Spector soundalikes "Phil's Spectre II" 
is. I love it! And the news about the new Reperata and the Delrons CD 
sure sounds good too.

I would LOVE to see a wall of soundalikes vol. 3, and wish for it to 
include tracks like:

The Cake - Baby thatīs me
Beverly Warren - Let me get close to you
The Popsicles - I donīt wanna be your baby anymore
Alder Ray - Cause I love him
The Victorians - What makes little girls cry

Any other surgestions?




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Message: 16        
   Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:46:00 -0400
   From: James Botticelli 
Subject: Re: Chuck Foote / Arthur

Artie Wayne:
> James...How ya'doin'? Yeah, the same Wild Ones from Arthur. Chuck
> Foote, Jordan Christopher and I went to Arthur before it opened.
> Sybil Burton, the owner, was looking for a new band, who was on the
> way up, to open the club. My pals had one of the hottest bands in
> town...so it was a perfect match! It wasn't long before Arthur was
> the hottest club in New York and Jordan married Sybil.

Well documented in the tome entitled "Last Night A DJ Saved My Life", 
a spectacular written history of the DJ as the essential promoter and 
spreader of music beginning with the early 6T's bluebeat/ska DJ's who 
drove around with their systems in trucks playing in outdoor public 
venues right up to the time the book was written. The book confirms 
what you reported Artie. Thanks.

JB




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Message: 17        
   Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 11:01:35 +0100
   From: Mick Patrick 
Subject: Re: Baseball Songs

Dan Hughes:
> I'm putting together a CD of songs to be played pregame, 
> postgame, between innings, and during the seventh-inning 
> stretch at a minor league baseball park, and I'd like some 
> help from the group. I've picked the best of the two BASEBALL'S 
> GREATEST HITS albums. What else is out there? Thanks for any 
> suggestions,

I've posted one to musica:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/

Details are: Mabel Scott "Baseball Boogie" (King 4368, 1950); 
written by Williams. Mabel recorded the same song for Hub four 
years earlier as "Do You Know The Game?".

Here are a few others:
PHIL FOSTER A Brooklyn Baseball Fan CORAL 61200 1954 
EDDIE LAWRENCE Abner The Baseball CORAL 61821 1957 
GENERAL CAINE Baseball COLUMBIA 02947 (TABU) 1982 
MICHAEL FRANKS Baseball WARNER BROS. 49556 1980 
JOHNNY DARLING Baseball Baby DELUXE 6167 1958 
TERRY CASHMAN Baseball Ballet LIFESONG 45117 1982 
JANE MORGAN Baseball Baseball KAPP 104 1954 
CLAIRE HAMILL Baseball Blues ISLAND 1202 1972 
JOEY ADAMS & AL KELLY Baseball Expert CORAL 61169 1954 
BARRY DE VORZON Baseball Furies' Chase A & M 2129 1979 
CATHY CARR Baseball He Loves ROULETTE 4367 1961 
GENE WISNIEWSKI Baseball Polka DANA 3210
GEORGE CATES Baseball Polka CORAL 60249 1950 
CRAFTSMEN Baseball Song SCOUT 435 1961 
NAT KING COLE First Baseball Game CAPITOL 4555 1961 
EDDIE LAWRENCE German Baseball CORAL 61799 1957 
ZANIES I Hate Baseball DORE 974 1982 
BOBBY BALL & HIS BATS Just Playin' Baseball EMERALD 2050
EDDIE LAWRENCE Loco Baseball CORAL 61713 1956 
DEXTER REDDING Love Is Bigger Than Baseball CAPRICORN 0033 1973 
JACKIE AVERY Love Is Bigger Than Baseball CAPRICORN 8008 1970 
JEFF ALLEN Love Is Bigger Than Baseball UNITED ARTISTS XW-708 1975 
DICK GLASS Love Is Like A Baseball Game WINGATE 003 1965 
INTRUDERS Love Is Like A Baseball Game GAMBLE 217 1968 
SAM BOWIE & BLUE FEELINGS Love Is Like A Baseball Game WINGATE 002 65 
TERRY CASHMAN Talkin' Baseball LIFESONG 45110 1982 
TOMMY DURDEN The Bee That Won The Baseball Game D 1076 1959 
BERNIE WAYNE Theme From Abner The Baseball ABC 9815 1957 

Hey la,

Mick Patrick




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