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There are 16 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: "Phil's Spectre II: Another Wall Of Soundalikes" - a wish for vol.3
From: Ray
2. "Over The Weekend"
From: Gary Myers
3. Neon Philharmonic correction
From: Skip Woolwine
4. Re: "Phil's Spectre II: Another Wall Of Soundalikes" - a wish for vol.3
From: Pres
5. Re: Baseball songs
From: Charles Ulrich
6. Re: "Phil's Spectre II" - a wish for vol.3
From: Mick Patrick
7. Walk on the Sand - Ars Nova
From: Florie Gray
8. Re: Baseball songs
From: Bob Rashkow
9. Henry Stone; Robert Mosely; Bobby Darin; Carson Parks; dueling "Tomorrows"; Martin's comment
From: Country Paul
10. Wall II; Beau Brummels; Chuck Foote info, please
From: Country Paul
11. Re: Baseball Songs
From: Mick Patrick
12. Italo-pop singer Mina on the Catalog of Cool
From: Kim Cooper
13. Re: Baseball songs
From: Larry Bromley
14. Re: Reparata & the Delrons
From: Peter Lerner
15. Re: Baseball songs
From: Dan Hughes
16. Re: "Phil's Spectre II" - a wish for vol.3
From: Will Stos
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 14:31:40 -0000
From: Ray
Subject: Re: "Phil's Spectre II: Another Wall Of Soundalikes" - a wish for vol.3
Peter Andreasen wrote:
> I would LOVE to see a vol. 3, and wish for it to include tracks
> like: ... Any other surgestions?
These come to mind immediately:
Yesterday has Gone....Cupid's Inspiration
I Adore Him .....The Angels
Don't Ever Leave Me....Connie Francis
Goodbye Baby.....Maureen Grey
Say Goodbye to Hollywood....Billy Joel or Ronnie Spector
Hungry Heart....Bruce Springstein
Hold my Hand, Hold my Heart...The Chantrelines
More on the way,
Ray
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:16:57 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: "Over The Weekend"
Country Paul:
> ... the Playboys' "Over The Weekend" crosses a middle-road song
> structure with a rock & roll ballad texture.
Love that song! I've even done it on gigs a couple of times, and it
was finding that record (at Wenzel's Music Town in Downey) in the
early 70's that got me into the record collecting world.
gem
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:34:50 -0500
From: Skip Woolwine
Subject: Neon Philharmonic correction
Dave Gofstein challenges:
> I swear that I recall "No One Is Going To Hurt You" on the lower
> rungs of the top 40 way back in my kidhood. And back in those days,
> the radio stations I listened to didn't play LP cuts!!
Dave- I stand corrected. Read on.
Skip Woolwine
Tupper Saussy says:
"I believe No One was released as a 45. Can't recall the flip side,
unless it was maybe You Lied, and I don't remember any other single
releases, unless maybe Dresden. When the album came out Warners was
working hard on the Doobie brothers, I think, plus Don and I by that
time had decided to be purely a studio thing. Tupper"
NB: On Ebay, there are some Neon Philharmonic 45s for sale. None are
from the NP's second album. In addition to Morning Girl, there are a
couple of singles that never appeared on any album, until the Rhino
Handmade compilation release of last year. -- Skip
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 13:52:03 -0400
From: Pres
Subject: Re: "Phil's Spectre II: Another Wall Of Soundalikes" - a wish for vol.3
Peter Andreasen wrote:
> I would LOVE to see a vol. 3, and wish for it to include tracks
> like: ... Any other surgestions?
How about Bonnie's "Close Your Eyes" and/or "Soft And Gentle Ways" by
Clydie King.
Pres
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 11:25:37 -0700
From: Charles Ulrich
Subject: Re: Baseball songs
Dan Hughes:
> I'm putting together a CD of songs to be played pregame, postgame,
> between innings, and during the seventh-inning stretch at a minor
> league baseball park, and I'd like some help from the group. I've
> picked the best of the two BASEBALL'S GREATEST HITS albums. What
> else is out there? Thanks for any suggestions,
Brave Combo, Take Me Out To The Ballgame (polka), Lets Kiss, DenTone
Brave Combo, Take Me Out To The Ballgame (oberek), Lets Kiss, DenTone
Frank Zappa, Take Me Out To The Ball Game, You Can't Do That On Stage
Anymore, Volume 4, Ryko
--Charles
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:16:37 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: "Phil's Spectre II" - a wish for vol.3
Peter Andreasen on "Phil's Spectre II: Another Wall Of Soundalikes":
> I would LOVE to see a vol. 3, and wish for it to include tracks
> like... Any other suggestions?
I'm already cooking up Vol III in my mind, so the door is open for
suggestions. Please don't recommend anything that's already on the
first two volumes. Check the track lists for those at these URLs:
http://www.acerecords.co.uk/content.php?page_id=59&release=4606
http://www.acerecords.co.uk/content.php?page_id=59&release=847
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 03:15:01 -0000
From: Florie Gray
Subject: Walk on the Sand - Ars Nova
Been looking for this cut from the SUNSHINE AND SHADOWS (I think)
album forever. Any leads would be appreciated.
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 00:00:41 EDT
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: Baseball songs
Dan Hughes:
> I'm putting together a CD of songs to be played pregame, postgame,
> between innings, and during the seventh-inning stretch at a minor
> league baseball park ... Thanks for any suggestions.
Well! I may be striking out or batting 1000 on this one, but all I
can think of if you don't have them already are:
Out of Left Field--Percy Sledge
Last Game of the Season--David Geddes
(Love Is Like A) Baseball Game--The Intruders: great R&B from Philly
Peanuts--Little Joe & The Thrillers
Then of course there's the old standby, Who's On 1st? by Abbott &
Costello, which I've no doubt you've already placed in your "lineup".
("Clean Up Woman" by Betty Wright???!!!)
Bobster
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 00:40:26 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Henry Stone; Robert Mosely; Bobby Darin; Carson Parks; dueling "Tomorrows"; Martin's comment
Henry Stone:
> Henry Stone has once again been profiled in a major entertainment
> publication. This time he has a large feature in Celebrity Access -
> http://www.celebrityaccess.com/news/profile.html?id=%5
You've certainly swum with the big fish, Henry; thanks for sharing
the info.
Roy Clough:
> I'm trying to find the original version of "Goodbye my love", a
> big hit for The Searchers in the UK, it was called "Goodbye my
> lover goodbye" and was by Robert Mosely I think. Anyone have it?
If no one else has responded to you, please e-mail me off-list. No
mp3, but I do have the 45 which I could dub.
Joe Nelson refers to Phil Milstein's excellent "Probe" site,
http://www.philxmilstein.com , and mentions the Bobby Darin versions
of John Sebastian's and Tim Hardin's songs. In my opinion, this is my
favorite Darin period; he definitely "got" both writers. There's also
an earlier track - "Lost Love," the flip of the big hit "Queen Of The
Hop" - which previews Darin's masterful touch with folky/softer
sounds, and is one of my all-time favorites by him.
Also at Probe, thanks, Phil, for posting Carson & Gaile's original
"Somethin' Stupid," always my favorite version of the song since first
listen. Don't beat me up for it; it's just my opinion! I might
suggest, though, checking out and downloading what you need from the
Carson Parks website itself, http://www.ccarsonparks.com/carson.htm ,
as I imagine his earthly departure predicts the same fate for this
apparently self-administered site.)
Finally got a chance to listen to and compare April Young's and Cathy
Carroll's "This Time Tomorrow" playing at musica. My vote goes to Ms.
Carroll; in her favor: the big drums, more command in her voice, the
richer sound. Again, just my opinion. Thanks for the opportunity to
compare.
Martin Roberts:
> Long overdue, but I'm sure Country Paul will forgive me for
> catching up so late! Just wanted to say how much I enjoyed Paul's
> interview with Denny, presented by Spectropop:
> http://www.spectropop.com/DennyReed/index.htm
> Thanks also to the folks who posted some of his songs to musica.
Thank you too, Martin; as a chronic "catcher-upper" I fully
understand the delay! And I also appreciate the plays to musica, both
Denny's and the others; my mp3 conversion "facility" is still not
quite ready, and the playing of "No One Cares" was the one I would
have done.
More to come....
Country Paul
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 01:36:39 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Wall II; Beau Brummels; Chuck Foote info, please
Mick Patrick Re: "Phil's Spectre II: Another Wall Of Soundalikes":
> [V]iew a complete track list, and more:
> http://www.acerecords.co.uk/content.php?page_id=59&release=4606
I did! I hadn't heard the Mary Wells track before the sample herein;
it's a treat. Same for the Ruby & The Romantics sample. I'm curious:
are there any Paris Sisters/Teddy Bears-era-styled tracks aboard?
> Recently @ S'pop
> Three Hours At Gold Star
> Recording The Beau Brummels
> by Al Hazan
> http://www.spectropop.com/BeauBrummels/index.htm
The ones that got away.... I love the Beau Brummels' Autumn output;
this is far too under-rated a group.
Artie Wayne:
> From time to time [The Crests] would use my friend, Chuck Foote,
> who was in "The Wild Ones", as an alternate.
Artie, you have mentioned the artist responsible for one of my
favorite 45s of the early 60s, "Running Out of Kisses" (Soncraft 401,
which made it to at least #87 in CashBox during a 5-week run starting
in December, 1961), which got good aireplay in New York. I also found
another 45 by him: I Stopped Asking/I'd Do It all Over Again" (20th
Century Fox, release date unknown). Mostly, however, a Google search
reveals only some 45s for sale, and several other people who share
his name. Any info about him, please? (I put out this same request in
May, 2004, and Artie, you're the closest source who has emerged so
far.)
By the way, there are early photos of The Crests which show a non-
white female member, but I know nothing for certain about her (or if,
therefore, there's a relationship to Luther Vandross, although I've
heard that mentioned elsewhere).
Country Paul
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:36:32 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Baseball Songs
Dan Hughes:
> I'm putting together a CD of songs to be played pregame, postgame,
> between innings, and during the seventh-inning stretch at a minor
> league baseball park ... Thanks for any suggestions.
Charles Ulrich recommended some renditions of:
> Take Me Out To The Ballgame
Better yet, blast 'em with the girl group version, currently playing
at musica for your delectation:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Details are: The Mark-ettes "Take Me Out To The Ball Game"
(Big 20 Record Corp. 1111, c. 1963); written by Jack Norworth and
Albert Von Tilzer; a Tony "Mark" Alamo Production. Hey la.
I love this rather crude record because it reminds me of Baby Jane &
the Rockabyes. Maybe it's them in disguise, who knows?
And here are some more versions of the same song:
ANDREWS SISTERS - DECCA 24605 1949
BILL HEYER - EPIC 9050 1954
BOBBY GREGG - EPIC 9601 1963
BUNKER HILLBILLIES - SEVILLE 106 1960
CHARLOTTE BOYS CHOIR - RCA 47-3985 1950
CHUCK MAHAFFEY - PANORAMA 35
DON ELLIOT - SAVOY 1103 1953
GEORGE WRIGHT - KING 15039 1950
H.B. BARNUM - RCA 47-8155 1963
KNUCKLES O'TOOLE - GRAND AWARD 1004 1958
LARRY VINCENT - PEARL 1235 1961
PETE DAILY - CAPITOL 1588 1951
STUART McKAY & WOODS - RCA 47-6168 1955
TONY MARTIN - RCA 47-4216 1951
DON IPPOLITO - DELUXE 2035
ELLA LOGAN - COLUMBIA 38480 1949
HARRY CARAY - CHURCHILL 7714 1978
Collect the set, why not?!
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:21:19 -0700
From: Kim Cooper
Subject: Italo-pop singer Mina on the Catalog of Cool
Proto-Dusty or Queen of the Screamers? Real Neal McCabe's article on
the coolsite and decide for yourself:
http://catalog-of-cool.com/newdigssounds.html#Mina
yrs,
Kim
Kitten with a Hip
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:53:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Larry Bromley
Subject: Re: Baseball songs
Interesting list of b-ball tunes. If they are not considered too
recent, then I submit John Fogerty's "Centerfield", and Bruce
Springsteen's "Glory Days', since he sings about an old fried who
"could throw that speedball by you, make you look just like a fool."
I noticed the two Cashman songs on the list. Personally, I love
"Talkin' Baseball", which was co-written by a member of the Detroit
Tigers, I think. Also, as I recall, there was an entire album with
versions of the original song with lyrics for each Major league team
in existence at the time. BTW, is this Cashman the one co-wrote pop
hits as part of the Cashman-West team?
Age is a number that tells
how long you have lived in this world,
not how to live in it.
Larry Bromley
good day!
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:23:38 +0100
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: Re: Reparata & the Delrons
Mick Patrick asked:
> I guess you'll be interested in one of Ace's pending releases,
> then -- a 30-tracker entitled "The Best Of Reparata & The Delrons".
> It'll be out at the end of August. Is anyone interested in seeing
> an advance copy of the track list?
Yes, please!
Peter
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 06:06:02 -0500
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Re: Baseball songs
Bob, thanks -- "Last Game Of The Season" is a football song:
"But the boy's not just a hero
He's strictly second team
Tho he runs each night for touchdowns
In his father's sweetest dreams...."
Come to think of it, there aren't too many football songs out there.
Larry, yes, same Terry Cashman. He wrote songs for most of the major
league teams (I believe he skipped a couple of them), but some of the
songs covered two or three teams in one fell swoop. And they're already
using "Glory Days" and "Centerfield."
Mick, thanks for the upload. The lists people have posted are great,
but I don't have access to most of these songs unless someone posts
them to musica or e-mails them to me.
One more -- does anyone know a barbershop quartet version of "Take Me
Out To The Ball Game," in which the singers sing the right words, but
they get ahead of themselves and run out of lyrics before the music is
done? A very funny effect; Larry King used to play it on his overnight
radio show.
Thanks folks,
---Dan
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:03:42 -0000
From: Will Stos
Subject: Re: "Phil's Spectre II" - a wish for vol.3
Mick Patrick wrote:
> I'm already cooking up Vol III in my mind, so the door is open
> for suggestions.
I'd love to hear Clydie King's "He Always Comes Back To Me." Have you
considered doing a volume of faithful covers of Spector tracks, or is
that outside the guidelines of the project?
Will : )
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