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There are 20 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Laurence "Larry" Weiss
From: Robert Pingel
2. Re: "Phil's Spectre II" - a wish for vol.3
From: Pres
3. Re: the Rhino Girl Group Box
From: Charles
4. "Sunshine Of Your Love"
From: Peter Lerner
5. Re: Larry Weiss & the Models' "Bend Me, Shape Me"
From: Frank Jastfelder
6. Re: Ooh Baby Baby Washington
From: Ken Silverwood
7. Jimmie Haskell & the Raspberries
From: Mick Patrick
8. Hits by association
From: Peter Lerner
9. Re: Laurence "Larry" Weiss and "Bend Me, Shape Me"
From: Howard Earnshaw
10. Re: The Roulettes
From: Michael
11. Long John Baldry and the Marquee Club
From: Clark Besch
12. Re: Dusty's "My Coloring Book"
From: Mike Edwards
13. Re: Jimmie Haskell & the Raspberries
From: Karl
14. Jackie, starring in "The Queen"
From: Phil X Milstein
15. "What The World Needs Now Is Love"
From: S.J. Dibai
16. "Hi Ho Silver Lining"
From: Kingsley Abbott
17. Stateside label
From: Mike Edwards
18. Re: Jimmie Haskell & the Raspberries
From: Clark Besch
19. Re: Hits by association
From: Tom Taber
20. The Turtles' "Can't Stop"
From: Charles Ulrich
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:12:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Pingel
Subject: Re: Laurence "Larry" Weiss
Two of my all-time favorite Laurence Weiss songs are "After He Breaks
Your Heart" by the Wanderers, and "Darling Take Me Back I'm Sorry"
by Ray Pollard who was the former lead vocalist for the Wanderers.
Both killer records.
Rob Pingel
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:13:42 -0400
From: Pres
Subject: Re: "Phil's Spectre II" - a wish for vol.3
If the whole concept has not slipped in to the '80s, I'll still hold
fast on my requests for Bonnie's "Close Your Eyes" and anything
Clydie on Imperial and add one more:
Ronnie and the Revelation's take on Ersel Hickey's "Bluebirds Over
The Mountain".
Staying with the '80s theme, Marshall Crenshaw's "The Will Never
Know". Not exactly a sound a like, but definitely a continuation on
a sound.
Three cheers for the recent Jesus and Mary Chain reference - they're
my favorite band.
pres
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 05:34:44 -0000
From: Charles
Subject: Re: the Rhino Girl Group Box
Interesting listing - not just the usual stuff, some rarities. How's
the stereo content for this set? Any new stereo mixes there?
Charles
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:00:59 +0100
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: "Sunshine Of Your Love"
Dave added all the following to Long John Baldry's version of
"Sunshine Of Your Love":
> Ralph "Soul" Jackson and The Fifth Dimension, and before Ella
> Fitzgerald, Mongo Santamaria, Jimi Hendrix and, well, Cream.
I'd just like to add Jackie DeShannon's amazing version from her
"Laurel Canyon" album, with Barry White and Dr John amongst her band.
Those nice people at RPM are due to rerelease that particular album
for the first time on CD, with bonus tracks, this autum I hear.
Peter
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:14:57 +0200
From: Frank Jastfelder
Subject: Re: Larry Weiss & the Models' "Bend Me, Shape Me"
Nick Archer on "Bend Me, Shape Me" by the Models:
> I can play to musica if there's room.
That would be great. Love to hear it. Btw, are there any photos of
"The Models", eg promo shots out there in Spectroland?
Frank Jastfelder
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:55:13 +0100
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Re: Ooh Baby Baby Washington
I previously wrote:
> Funnily enough I just got hold of a copy of "Leave Me Alone" b/w
> "It'll Never Be Over For Me" on Sue. Both sides are composed by
> Weiss, Edwards Jr. and Maurier.
I was incorrect, only the "a" side was written by them, the flip was
of course by Messrs Bobrick & Blagman, done four years before the
Timi Yuro version. Also " Leave Me Alone" is on a CD titled "The Sue
Singles" Baby Washington, Kent CD 136.
Ken On The West Coast
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:32:31 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Jimmie Haskell & the Raspberries
I'm still on my Jimmie Haskell kick. Many thanks to everyone who's
helped out so far.
Any fans of the Raspberries out there? Silly question, because I know
flippin' well there must be! Sure, I like 'em, a lot, but I just
happen not to own any of their records - well, you can't have
everything, can you?. I'm told Jimmie Haskell was arranged some of
the group's tracks, or something. Unfortunately, my info is sketchy.
Could some kind soul put me out of my misery and tell me which tracks
I need to investigate. I shall then use the old "one-click" to snag
myself a CD or two.
"Hit record - yeah!"
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:03:18 +0100
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: Hits by association
Paul wrote:
> So Barbra's My Coloring Book was not a hit on it's own but by
> association because of being on several best selling albums. That's
> the record business.
It's called the reinvention of history. I wonder how many people
share Dionne Warwick's view that she had the hit on "What the world
needs now is love"?
Peter
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 11:36:16 EDT
From: Howard Earnshaw
Subject: Re: Laurence "Larry" Weiss and "Bend Me, Shape Me"
Henry Shed also covered 'Bend Me Shape Me' on the flip to his
version of the Drifters 'Save The Last Dance For Me' - UK Stateside.
cheers... Howard
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:57:51 -0000
From: Michael
Subject: Re: The Roulettes
John Stewart wrote:
> The Roulettes "I Can't Stop" for some reason is credited to
> "Lambert" on the CD of Stakes and Chips but is the same song as the
> Unit 4+2 track credited to Moeller/Parker.
The Turtles also recorded the song...I'm not sure exactly when, or
what the original release was, but I know it's on the Rhino CD
anthology of a few years back.
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this Roulettes thread based
on my initial query. Appreciated.
Some of you linked or referred to that Fufkin.com article about The
Roulettes. Thanks, but...I'm actually the one who wrote that
article. :> You can tell by that article that at the time I wrote
it, I hadn't actually heard the last two Fontana singles yet. I have
them now ("Rhyme Boy Rhyme"/"Airport People" and "Help Me To Help
Myself"/"To A Taxi Driver")....These tracks are notable because they
have never ever been comped on any CD. Everything else they did can
be found on CD (The 'Stakes and Chips' CD has not only that 1965
album but all additional Parlaphone releases as bonus cuts...and
their first single on Pye, "La Bamba"/"Hully Gully Slip And Slide"
has been comped several times on CD comps like 'Hippy Hippy Shake'
and 'Beat Beat Beat Volume One.' But those two 1967 Fontana singles
remain only available on those 45s...Took me some serious hunting but
I finally landed copies).
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:56:31 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Long John Baldry and the Marquee Club
Hi, I have to say that I think Eugene Record was one of the great
pop/soul voices of Chicago. His songs will be remembered well
forever. Also lamenting the "King of Rock n Roll" Long John Baldry.
Always loved the song, but was first exposed to John with his "Let
the Heartaches Begin" when Ron Riley would play it on WLS Chicago as
#1 in his British Billboard Sunday night 8-9 PM countdown every
weekend when we got to hear all the great UK hits that no one played
over here. That was ALWAYS a "must hear" show. That's how I first
got exposed to the Who, Traffic, Small Faces and even Keith West, as
well as, of course, John Baldry. I could not believe his song was
topping all those Brit pop rocker hits, tho. Anyway, in his "honour",
I've posted a poster of what a great London scene there was in
December 1966. Not sure if this shows up well enough. If not, send
me an email if anyone wants a jpeg of it to enlarge. Anyway, I was
lucky enough to hear only some of these artists at the time, but
hindsight has shown what a swingin' time could be had in the Marquee
Club then! SO many artists we talk about here were playing on this
card! The Nite People, Iveys, John Baldry with Bluesology, and so
many other cool acts. How bout a Chirstmas Party with Peter Frampton
& the Herd? Even better, how bout a Christmas Party with Spencer
Davis Group with Stevie Winwood? John's Children, the Fenmen, Jimmy
James & the Vagabonds (with their Cheech & Chong ties), John Mayall,
Alan Bown, Jimmy Cliff, the Action, some group called Pink Floyd with
some guy named Syd in it. There's even a love & light connection
with Sonny Childe & the TNT's!!! I guess Roger Miller was right!!
Clark
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:23:40 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Re: Dusty's "My Coloring Book"
Mary writes:
> Dusty Springfield's "My Coloring Book" - where can I find it?
Mary, I'm assuming you're in the US, in which case try amazon.com for
a Taragon CD that combines two of Dusty's 60s' albums, "Stay Awhile/I
Only Want To Be With You" & "Dusty". Her excellent version of "My
Coloring Book" is included. If you're in the UK, you might want to
try amazon.co.uk, where Mercury CD copies of "A Girl Called Dusty"
(the original 60s' album with bonus tracks) are going for around £4.
Dusty's "My Coloring Book" is a great track to own, as are all the
others on these two CDs – you won't go wrong.
Mike Edwards
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:30:56 -0000
From: Karl
Subject: Re: Jimmie Haskell & the Raspberries
Mick Patrick wrote:
> Any fans of the Raspberries out there? Silly question, because I
> know flippin' well there must be! Sure, I like 'em, a lot, but I
> just happen not to own any of their records - well, you can't have
> everything, can you?. I'm told Jimmie Haskell was arranged some of
> the group's tracks, or something. Unfortunately, my info is
> sketchy. Could some kind soul put me out of my misery and tell me
> which tracks I need to investigate. I shall then use the old "one-
> click" to snag myself a CD or two. "Hit record - yeah!"
Jimmie Haskell did the string and horn arrangements on the first
Raspberries album only.
Karl
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:46:19 -0800
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Jackie, starring in "The Queen"
Another Jackie song, one in which the character appears in the lyric
but not the title, is the Rip Chords' 1963 raver "The Queen." Dig this
opening gambit:
Jackie thinks that she’s a queen
So she treats everybody mean
And I’m gonna knock her off her throne
And from there the action only heats up, to a street-lit froth
reminiscent of Dion and his Belmonts at their best. The flip of the
group's breakout hit "Hey Little Cobra" (Columbia 42921), "The Queen"
(like its topside) was recorded during a brief period when founding
member Ernie Bringas was on hiatus while away at seminary school,
leaving the other founding member, Phil Stewart, to cut it alone with
producer Terry Melcher and his colleague Bruce Johnston. While Melcher
-- who, according to Bringas' detailed account of the Rip Chords'
unique and complicated history at http://tinyurl.com/dvgoe , was
never an official group member (as wasn't Johnston, for that matter)
-- took the lead vocal on "Cobra," I am not certain who it is leading
"The Queen." The song ends with an upwardly swirling falsetto tag-to-
fade that must be heard to be believed.
Interestingly, the name "Jackie" never appears again after the song's
first word, although certainly her regal attitude exerts its haughty
presence throughout. I hope it isn't true, but when the song came my
way it was accompanied by a rumor that the reference was to de lovely
Miss DeShannon; perhaps Mr. Lerner or Mr. George know more about that.
--Phil M.
http://www.philxmilstein.com/probe
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:11:17 -0000
From: S.J. Dibai
Subject: "What The World Needs Now Is Love"
Peter Lerner wrote:
> It's called the reinvention of history. I wonder how many people
> share Dionne Warwick's view that she had the hit on "What the world
> needs now is love"?
On that "Bacharach On Ice" TV special I mentioned here long ago, I
think they asked a trivia question like, "Which of these songs was
not a hit for Dionne Warwick?" One of the choices was "What The World
Needs Now," and sure enough, they identified that as the correct
answer, adding that the song (and I remember this clearly) was a #19
hit for Jackie DeShannon. #19, eh? I was happy that Jackie got
credit, but come on! Let's not cheat the lady!
S.J. Dibai
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:22:56 +0100
From: Kingsley Abbott
Subject: "Hi Ho Silver Lining"
Seeing the mention of Ho Ho Silver Lining reminded me that the great
party chorus on that record that we all sing along to when
sufficiently lubricated was actually sung not by Jeff B but none
other than the wonderful John Carter. Apparantly JB couldn't manage
it well enough...
Kingsley
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:10:45 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Stateside label
Will writes:
> I love the (Baby Washington) Sue Singles Collection CD. I really
> love the orchestral sound of "That's How Heartaches Are Made" and
> love "Doodlin'"
The Stateside label was reactivated in the UK a few years' ago with
a major focus on US soul – not too far away from its vinyl focus in
the 60s. I just noticed a recently released 28 track Baby Washington
collection on this label, "I've Got a Feeling", which
includes "That's How Heartaches Are Made", "You And The Night And
The Music" and "It'll Never Be Over For Me". I'm almost sure these
are the original Sue recordings and with a street price of around
£6, it's excellent value for money.
The same label also has newly minted 27 tracker, "Soul Of Sue
Records – New York City" and although it's another compilation with
the likes of "Mockingbird", "I Know" and "That's How Heartaches Are
Made", the £4 or so street price and the lesser known tunes grab our
attention.
All Spectropoppers should join Mick Jagger in owning an Irma Thomas
collection and they've got one here: a 24 tracker entitled, "Straight
>From The Soul". I'm a sucker for her Burt Bacharach song, "Live
Again" even though it sounds unfinished. I don't think this was
issued in the 60s but if one of our favorite arrangers could have got
his hands on it, it would have been a masterpiece.
It all started for me when Stateside put out a CD version of an
O'Jays' compilation, "Working on Your Case" which they had out on
vinyl in the 80s. It contains the sublime, "Lonely Drifter" (1963),
which comes up for discussion from time to time. It deserves to. The
unissued tracks here are faultless and that's before we get started
on such issued gems as "Lipstick Traces".
These quality CDs and others can be viewed on amazon.co.uk with full
track listings and sound samples. Well worth everyone's
consideration.
Mike Edwards
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 04:41:28 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Jimmie Haskell & the Raspberries
Karl:
> Jimmie Haskell did the string and horn arrangements on the first
> Raspberries album only.
Karl, must explain why the incredible 5 minute "Don't want to Say
Goodbye" was chosen for their first single. A great orchestrated
piece if there ever was one. A top 5 hit here in Omaha area, that
one song sold me well before "Go All the way" sold all the rest.
Besides BB's, what did you think of the Raspberries concert? I would
LOVE to see them.
Clark
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:38:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Taber
Subject: Re: Hits by association
Peter Lerner wrote:
> It's called the reinvention of history. I wonder how many people
> share Dionne Warwick's view that she had the hit on "What the world
> needs now is love"?
One of the biggest surprises I got when I first read a Whitburn "Top
100" book more than 30 years ago was the realization that Andy
Williams' signature song "Moon River" was never a hit single for him.
Tom Taber
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:52:17 -0700
From: Charles Ulrich
Subject: The Turtles' "Can't Stop"
John:
> The Roulettes "I Can't Stop" for some reason is credited to
> "Lambert" on the CD of Stakes and Chips but is the same song as the
> Unit 4+2 track credited to Moeller/Parker.
Michael:
> The Turtles also recorded the song...I'm not sure exactly when, or
> what the original release was, but I know it's on the Rhino CD
> anthology of a few years back.
The Turtles recorded "I Can't Stop" sometime between October 1965 and
June 1966, with overdubs on March 21, 1967. It was first released in
1970, on the album Wooden Head. It appears on Solid Zinc, where it is
credited to Dennis Lambert.
--Charles
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