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There are 9 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis
From: Lyn Nuttall
2. Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis
From: Jack Russell
3. Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis
From: Joe Foster
4. "Bend Me, Shape Me" by the Models
From: Nick Archer
5. Re: Jackie, starring in "The Queen"
From: Richard Havers
6. Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis
From: Norm D Plume
7. Re: John Carter & Ken Lewis
From: Joop
8. Re: Jackie, starring in "The Queen"
From: Karl Ikola
9. Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis
From: Joop
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:03:42 -0000
From: Lyn Nuttall
Subject: Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis
Rob Pingel wrote:
> Who are these gentlemen?
I'm about to crib from my own webpage that covers these chaps, among
others, but you can't go past Hiroshi Asada's John Carter Song List at
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/salaryman/asada/carter.htm (Continue browsing
his whole site: in the course of examining the career of the
ubiquitous Tony Burrows, he covers a number of other British
songwriters of the era. There's even a family tree.)
In the meantime (and no doubt with numerous omissions): John Carter
(born John Shakespeare) and Ken Lewis (born Kenneth James Hawker),
longtime partners in songwriting and record-making since the end of
the 50s. With Perry Ford, they recorded as The Ivy League from 1965.
Later, Carter and Lewis were involved, for example, in The Flowerpot
Men (Let's Go To San Francisco), White Plains (My Baby Loves Lovin')
and First Class (Beach Baby). John Carter sang on Winchester
Cathedral, by Geoff Stephens's New Vaudeville.
Some songs by John Carter (the tip of the iceberg, I guess):
John Carter & Ken Lewis:
Funny How Love Can Be (Ivy League 1965)
Let's Go To San Francisco (Flowerpot Men, 1967)
Sunday For Tea (Peter & Gordon, 1967)
Little Bit O' Soul (Music Explosion, 1967).
John Carter:
Beach Baby (First Class, 1974)
John Carter & Geoff Stephens:
Semi-detached Suburban Mr Jones (Manfred Mann, 1966)
My Sentimental Friend (Herman's Hermits, 1969).
Knock Knock Who's There? (Mary Hopkin/Liv Maessen, 1970)
(See my http://www.poparchives.com.au/feature.php?id=989)
John Carter, Ken Lewis & Perry Ford:
Tossing And Turning (Ivy League, 1965)
John Carter & Gillian Shakespeare
Dreams Are Ten A Penny (Kincade, 1973)
In 2003 RPM Records put out a John Carter retrospective, Measure For
Measure: The John Carter Anthology 1961-1977.
To most pop music fans of the day, I suppose these guys were unsung
heroes, along with the likes of Roger Cook, Roger Greenaway, Les Reed,
Tony Macaulay, Barry Mason, Peter Callander, Mitch Murray, Graham
Gouldman, Ken Howard, Alan Blaikley... Their songs were everywhere,
but not necessarily their names, unless you count the small print
under the song titles on the record labels.
Hope I got all this right,
Lyn
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 19:00:34 +0100
From: Jack Russell
Subject: Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis
Michael,
> So in short, John Carter is doing fine and still making/writing
> music and enjoying it. (He also told me he didn't think much of
> that recent hit record in England that sampled "My World Fell
> Down," I forget who that was, but that he sure didn't mind the
> royalties. :>)
Thanks Michael, Carter-Lewis were a product of their time and very
talented for the market that existed then. I didn't know John, having
met him only once, but I am glad he is OK.
Cheers, Jack
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:14:31 +0100
From: Joe Foster
Subject: Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis
Jack Russell:
> Does anyone know what became of John Carter and Ken Lewis? I worked
> with The Ivy League after John Carter had been replaced by Tony
> Burrows. Perry Ford was still in charge. He died some years ago. Ken
> Lewis was a really nice bloke but was diabetic and not at all well,
> even then in 1966. So where are they now if they survived. And if
> they didn't, when did they pass on. Sadly Perry Ford was not a nice
> man but since he is dead we won't go there.
**Hi Jack, Well, we've been dealing with John here at Rev-Ola for a
while....write to me offlist and I'll put him in contact with you....
best, Joe
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 01:57:36 -0000
From: Nick Archer
Subject: "Bend Me, Shape Me" by the Models
Bend Me, Shape Me by the Models is in musica, the second recording of
the Larry Weiss song.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica
Nick Archer
Franklin, TN
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 06:40:12 +0100
From: Richard Havers
Subject: Re: Jackie, starring in "The Queen"
Phil X Milstein wrote:
> Another Jackie song, one in which the character appears in the lyric
> but not the title, is the Rip Chords' 1963 raver "The Queen." ...
> Interestingly, the name "Jackie" never appears again after the
> song's first word, although certainly her regal attitude exerts its
> haughty presence throughout. I hope it isn't true, but when the
> song came my way it was accompanied by a rumor that the reference
> was to de lovely Miss DeShannon; perhaps Mr. Lerner or Mr. George
> know more about that.
Karl Ikola wrote:
> Hi Phil: I rang Mr. Bringas himself to get the scoop on "The Queen",
> and he said it's Melcher on lead vocals, and to the best of his
> knowledge, the "Jackie" referenced in the song was in fact Jackie
> DeShannon. KI
I asked Bruce Johnston what he knew about this......
It's about Jackie De Shannon who Terry Melcher had been seeing!
Richard
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 02:07:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Norm D Plume
Subject: Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis
Thanks to Lyn, Michael and others for the info. on their careers and
achievements, and updates on their whereabouts. They really are
unsung heroes, and their contribution to 60's pop has never fully been
acknowledged, IMO.
Had they been American (I say controversially) I'm sure the whole
world would know about them, and minute details of their writing and
recording lives would pepper these pages.
I wonder if some kind S'Popper would be prepared to put a
contribution together for the "Spectropop Presents 60s record
Producers and Songwriters" section? Do you think there's enough
interest to merit this?
Norm D.
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:57:12 -0000
From: Joop
Subject: Re: John Carter & Ken Lewis
Michael wrote:
> So in short, John Carter is doing fine and still making/writing
> music and enjoying it. (He also told me he didn't think much of
> that recent hit record in England that sampled "My World Fell
> Down," I forget who that was, but that he sure didn't mind the
> royalties. :>)
Michael, The Prodigy has recently sampled "My world fell down" in
the track "Shoot down" from their "Always Outnumbered, Never
Outgunned" CD.
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 02:45:41 -0700
From: Karl Ikola
Subject: Re: Jackie, starring in "The Queen"
Richard Havers wrote:
> I asked Bruce Johnston what he knew about this... It's about Jackie
> DeShannon who Terry Melcher had been seeing!
That's what Bringas said, though I'm glad someone else can confirm
it, I didn't want to spread any false rumours. KI
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:49:25 -0000
From: Joop
Subject: Re: John Carter and Ken Lewis
Rob Pingel on Carter & Lewis:
> Who are these gentlemen?
In 1998 the Westside label released a John Carter CD of the Denmark
Street demo's 1963-1967): http://tinyurl.com/93f52
Here is a great review of that CD on our own Spectropop-site:
http://www.spectropop.com/archive/digest/m97.html
And earlier this year Rev-Ola released the CD: "A Rose By Any Other
Name". See a review:
http://www.cherryred.co.uk/revola/artists/johncartercrrev84.htm
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