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There are 12 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. New Orleans Musicians Update
From: Willie C
2. S'pop Guidelines
From: The S'pop Team
3. Re: Terry Lindsay
From: Simon White
4. Soledad Miranda
From: Julio Niño
5. Re: The Ventures
From: Hans-Dieter Hellmann
6. Mark Wirtz on Sounds of the Sixties
From: Frank M
7. Philly Producers
From: James Botticelli
8. The Power of Music
From: Artie Wayne
9. NOLA on NPR
From: Dave Monroe
10. More Mbube; Hugo & Luigi; Litle Richard; Jeanne Fox; Shelby Flint
From: Country Paul
11. Re: Epic 'Memory Lane' 45s
From: James Botticelli
12. Re: Jigsaw - One Way Street?
From: Mark Frumento
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:06:40 +0000
From: Willie C
Subject: New Orleans Musicians Update
This just in from Larry Chastain:
Many of these mentioned "family okay" and/or "band okay". There are
now several other lists and message board announcements, including
www.wwoz.org, www.nola.com, www.offbeat.com, www.satchmo.com, and
musicians' web pages.
The following people are reported to be okay:
Jeff Albert, Brint Anderson, Pete Alba, Jeff Albert, Jeffrey
Jellybean Alexander, Steve Allen, Kevin Allman, Shamar Allen, Mark
Anderson, Theresa Andersson, Bob Andrews, James Andrews, Troy
Trombone Shorty Andrews, Johnny Angel, Jim Ankar, APVR, Steve
Armstrong, Astral Project, Victor Atkins, John Autin, Alexia
Babineaux, Christine Balfa, Marcia Ball, David Bandrowski, Banjo
Greeson, Lucien Barbarin, Bruce Sunpie Barnes, Mike Barras, Rebecca
Barry, Dave Bartholomew, Harold Battiste, Jamal Battiste, Jonathan
Batiste, Mike Batiste, Russell Batiste, Bayou Renegades, Beausoleil,
Suzette Becker, Al Belletto & Linda, Doug Belote, Tab Benoit, Better
Than Ezra, Hurley Blanchard, Terrance Blanchard, Eddie Bo, Spencer
Bohren, b-goes, Jimmy Bolaro, Bonerama, Christian Boone, Big Chief
Monk Boudreaux, John Boutte, Lillian Boutte, Tanya Boutte, Tricia
Sista Teedy Boutte, Alonzo Bowens, Jesse Boyd, Hal Braden, Mark
Braud, Joe Braun, Juanita Brooks, Mark Brooks, Brotherhood of Groove,
Russ Broussard, Anthony Brown, Clarence Gatemouth Brown, Jody Brown,
Leon Brown, Maurice Brown, Wendell Brunious, Kurt Brunus, George &
Nina Buck, Henry Butler, Grayson Capps, Big Al Carson, Kim Carson,
Ricki Castrillo, Brian Breeze Cayole, Topsy Chapman, Alex Chilton,
Evan Christopher, Jon Cleary, Annie Clements, Theryl Houseman de
Clouet, Rick Coleman, Harry Connick Jr, Earl Conway, Brian Coogan,
Juanita Tolbert Cooper, Cowboy Mouth, Susan Cowsill, Davell Crawford,
Jack Cruz, Tony Dagradi, Dash Rip Rock, Jeremy Davenport, David &
Roselyn (Leonard & Lionheart), Allen Dejan, Nora Dejoie, Roger
Dickerson, Dirty Dozen Brass Band, The Dixie Cups, Big Chief Bo
Dollis and the Wild Magnolias, Michael Dominici, Fats Domino, Rockin
Dopsie & the Zydeco Twisters, Michael Doucet, Dr John, Snooks Eaglin,
Lars Edegran, Nancy Edwards, Joe Espino & New Orleans Brass Potholes
Band, Charlie Fardela, Lionel Ferbos, Jack Fine, Rob Florence, Pat
Flory & Donna, John Fohl, Gina Forsyth, Pete Fountain, Frankie Ford,
Andy Forest, Gina Forsyth, Derrick Freeman, Jonathan Freilich, Bob
French, Gerald French, Peter Fuller, funky Meters, Galactic, Lauren
Gaudin, Katrina Geenen, Cheryl Gerber & Marc McGrain, Banu Gibson,
Victor Goines, Steve Goodson, Tim Green, John Gros, Roland Guerin,
James Hall, Tony Hall, Jeff Hannusch, Ben Harris, Corey Harris, Grant
Harris, Leigh Lil Queenie Harris, Donald Harrison Jr, Bill Hart, Jeff
Hebert, Duke Heighter, Clarence Frogman Henry, Corey Henry, Ryan
Hiller, Andi Hoffman, Kenny Holladay, Peter Holsapple, Hot Club of
New Orleans, Bill Huntington, Mike Ieya, Burke Ingraffia, The
Iguanas,
Billy Iuso & family, David James, Benny Jones Sr, Bunchy Johnson,
Benny Jones Sr, Connie Jones, Leroy Jones, Dave Jordan, Kidd Jordan,
Marlon Jordan, Jerry Jumonville, Antoinette K-Doe, Luther Kent, Craig
Klein, Chris Thomas King, Erik Klerks, Chris Kohn, Lew Kreinberg, Joe
Krown, Julia LaShae, Joseph Lastie, Tim Laughlin, Washboard Chaz
Leary, Herman Lebeaux, Matt Leder, Bryan Lee, Matt Lemmler, Herman
Leonard, Lil Rascals Brass Band, Lil Stooges Brass Band, Eric
Lindell, AJ Loria, Simon Lott, Ingrid Lucia & Dwight & Ava, Jeremy
Lyons, Ronnie Magri & His N.O. Jazz Band, Ronald Markham, Ellis
Marsalis, Delfeayo Marsalis, Dolores Marsalis, Jason Marsalis, Wynton
Marsalis, Steve Masakowski, Irvin Mayfield, Steve Masakowski, Irvin
Mayfield, Tom McDermott, Alex McMurray, Alberto Medina, Humberto Pupi
Menez & Caridad Delatorre, Charlie Miller, David Mooney, Charles
Louie Moore, Deacon John Moore (band members unknown), Bill Morgan,
Tom Morgan, Chris Mule, Kenny Neal, Aaron Neville, Art Neville,
Charles Neville, Charmaine Neville, Cyril Neville, Ian Neville, Ivan
Neville, Carlo Nuccio (post storm okay; post flood unknown), Nancy
Ochsenschlager, Kevin O'Day, Anders Osborne, Joshua Mann Paillet,
Stevenson Palfi, Earl Palmer, Panorama Jazz Band, Jason Patterson,
Joshua Paxton, Michael Pearce, Spike Perkins, Ed Petersen, Loren
Pickford & Sheila Bauer, Dave Pirner, Renard Poche, Pocketfoxx,
George Porter Jr, Dirk Powell, Shannon Powell, Gloria Powers,
Wardell Quezergue, Quintron & Miss Pussycat, The Radiators, Omar
Ramirez, Jan Ramsey & most Offbeat magazine staff, Pat Ramsey,
Rebirth Brass Band, Trevor Richards, Sammy Rimington, Herlin Riley,
Washboard Lisa Roberto, Marcus Roberts, Alfred Uganda Roberts, Coco
Robicheaux, John Rodli, Biff Rose, Brent Rose, George Rossi, Wanda
Rouzan, Dixie Rubin, Kermit Ruffins, Dorian Rush, Scott Saltzman,
Mark & Will Samuels, Ben Sandmel, Jumpin Johnny Sansone, Marc & Ann
Savoy, Alexandra Scott, Brian Seeger, Marshall Sehorn, Mem Shannon
and the Membership, Derek Shezbie, Larry Sieberth, James Singleton,
Johnny Sketch, Michael Skinkus, Jon Smith, Leslie Smith, Robert Snow,
Steamboat Willie, Sally Stevens, Armand St. Martin, Brian Stoltz,
Marc Stone, The Subdudes, Bill Summers, Supagroup, Ken Swartz, Irma
Thomas, Tom Thompson, Michael Tisserand, David Torkanowsky, Allen
Toussaint, Rick Trolsen, Willie Turbinton, Don Vappie, Johnny
Vidacovich, Milton Villarrubia, Rob Wagner, Mark Walton, Walter
Wolfman Washington, Melissa Weber, Raymond Weber, Kim Weiser, Mike
West, Where New Orleans Magazine and staff, Catherine White, Matthew
White, Dr Michael White, Cornell Williams, Desmond Milkman Williams,
Jamelle Williams, Reuben Williams, Big Sammy Williams, Marva Wright,
June Yamagishi, Linnzi Zaorski.
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:10:07 +0100
From: The S'pop Team
Subject: S'pop Guidelines
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:51:55 +0100
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: Terry Lindsay
S.J. Dibai wrote:
> And what's the 411 on Theresa Lindsey, for that matter?
Never quite cleared this up but Terry Lindsay had a great beat
ballad release on UK President called "It's Over" which I don't
think got a US release. Some say it's not the same girl, some say
it is. It''s pretty wonderful whatever. Here's a review from
'manifesto' magazine:
TERRY LINDSAY - "ITS OVER/ONE DAY UP THE NEXT DAY DOWN"
(President PT 232 7" 1969)
The A side was written by Jimmy Rodgers and recorded by him as a
pop number but Terry gives it a slow burning moody, menacing bass
lead Soul reading which builds right up to the end. Not really a
dancer, more like a beat ballad with custard and a cherry on top.
The flipside is good too, she wrote it, an odd record that starts
with classical strings and handclapping and ends up as though it
belongs in a late 60's hip black off-Broadway musical theatre
piece. Which maybe it does.
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:05:37 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: Soledad Miranda
Hola everybody.
Joop on "What Makes Little Girls Cry?":
> there is a version recorded by Spanish actress Soledad Miranda
Thank you Joop. Yes I have Soledad Miranda´s version on Belter.
But Soledad´s real pearl is "Pelucón" which is included in the
same Belter EP. The lyrics are totally hillarious: some insistent
and hateful backing voices call Soledad "despeinada" (uncombed),
Soledad defends herself singing anxiously that she´s a new wave
girl and a fashion victim and that´s the type of hairdo that is
in, calling her accuser "pelucón" (big wig), dirty and some other
nice things. The song has a totally neurotic ambient, and you
have the impression that Soledad is crazy and she´s hearing voices
and talking to them. I´ll play Soledad´s "Pelucón" in musica in
the future. Now I´m going to have breakfast.
Chao.
Julio Niño.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:09:59 +0200
From: Hans-Dieter Hellmann
Subject: Re: The Ventures
Jack Russell:
> I once played a gig in Wick, which is as far north in Scotland
> as you can go without a boat, and in the local pub after the
> gig we were introduced to a guy who, local legend had it, had
> been the bass player with The Ventures.
Gary Myers:
> Seems doubtful. Last I knew there was an excellent (official, I
> believe) Ventures website with a pretty complete history.
Hello spectropoppers, if anyone is interested, here is the URL
of a Ventures related Website:
http://www.sandcastlevi.com/ventures/ventdisc.htm
There is Ventures Fan Group, called "Underground Fire", too.
Hans
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:47:06 +0100
From: Frank M
Subject: Mark Wirtz on Sounds of the Sixties
Well Brian Mathews read out a letter from Mark explaining he could
not add much to the story of Caroline Munro that Brian had attached
to the playing of Caroline's single "Tar and Cement". Mark did
point out that whilst Clapton was on the session Bruce and Baker
were not. Several web sites will now have to be changed. Brian
played the B side "This Sporting Life". You can catch it at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2 CLICK on Listen Again and select sounds
of the sixties.
FrankM
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:05:54 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Philly Producers
Simon White wrote:
> I'm currently giving myself a headache trying to thread through
> all the Philly connections with Gamble and Huff, Thom Bell, Stan
> Watson, Billy Jackson, Jimmy Wisner et al. What a supremely
> gifted and talented group of people.
Tis an amazing chapter in soul history. More brilliant and less
recognized than Motown unfortunately. There is nothing as good as
Philly Soul at this address. It has all the great elements of pop,
soul, easy listening, latin, doo-wop and, yes, classical music
.....Unfortunately for me I have spent so much time listening to
it that I have had to let my collection languish for awhile to get
some distance from it.
JB
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 09:16:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: The Power of Music
I'm happy to report that the Shelter From The Storm telethon was
beautiful in every sense of the word. The commercial- and protest-
free multicast aired in over 100 counties and featured some
memorable performances by Paul Simon, Neil Young, Mariah Carey
and Rod Stewart.
In between the unannounced performances, Movie and TV stars
solicited donations for the American Red Cross and the Salvation
Army.
There coudn't have been a more fitting way to raise money for a
community that was built on music, than to have some of their
spiritual sons, daughters and distant cousins come back, and
remind us why this tragedy hits so close to home.
Although each of us has our own concept of New Orleans - as what
it once was, whether we actually have been there or not - we all
carry around some piece of its musical heritage, which we share
with people from all over the world.
It looks like Randy Newman's "Louisiana 1927", which he
performed last night, will become the "Theme Song" for the
Katrina Disaster...I've already seen Aaron Neville's version
used on several newscasts.
Like everybody else, I can't wait to hear the newscasts report
that all of the survivors have been relocated and all family,
friends and pets have been reunited.
The power of music and the generousity of the people cannot be
denied! Remembering what Louis Armstrong once said, "It's A
Wonderful World".
regards, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 09:47:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Monroe
Subject: NOLA on NPR
Of interest to S'poppers:
For many music fans, it has been hard to hear the dramatic
stories coming out of New Orleans and not think about the
city's rich cultural heritage. New Orleans is steeped in
music, from the street parades of Mardi Gras to smoky blues
bars and the brass bands that march in jazz funerals.
The flooding sparked by Hurricane Katrina has resonated on
several levels with folklorist Nick Spitzer, host of the
roots-music program American Routes on public radio. Spitzer
and his family evacuated the day before the storm hit -- his
home and office are both in New Orleans.
For nearly two weeks, Spitzer has been producing a post-storm
version of his show from member station KRVS in Lafayette,
La., where he is staying with friends.
And as he has watched conditions in New Orleans grow
increasingly desperate, Spitzer has kept on playing music --
much of it devoted to his beleaguered city. He shares some
of his selections with Melissa Block.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4839549
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:34:10 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: More Mbube; Hugo & Luigi; Litle Richard; Jeanne Fox; Shelby Flint
Mike Rashkow, re: "Mbube":
> So what part of "we didn't write it" didn't these guys understand.
> I wouldn't expect any better from Hugo and Luigi. What did they
> ever do that was really any good anyway? Bunch of slick suits as
> far as I could tell.
I can't address the first part of your comment - it sure seems like
bald plagiarism to me - but, not having been an insider as you were,
I only know H&R's output. Among my favorite records are their own
"Cha-Hua-Hua" (Roulette, a more muscular cover of The Pets version
on Arwin) and the recently-discussed "Just Come Home" on RCA. (I
don't know if they were behind Joe Dodo & The the Groovers' "Groovy,"
but the sound is similar to "Cha-Hua-Hua" - it's a novelty, but it
rocks with the big boys.) Aren't they are also producers of Jimmie
Rodgers' Roulette output, arguably his best material? Sadly the above
two artists' 45s don't acvknowledge the producers, but assuming they
do come from Hugo & Luigi, I've got a lot of H&L in the upper
eschelon of my collection. They may have been "a bunch of slick suits"
as people, but I like a lot of their output.
By the way, Fred Clemens has an extensive list of covers of "Mbube"/
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight" at
http://www.bobshannon.com/fred/Mbube%20Listing.html
to which I can add one more with a connection to it: Nino Tempo &
April Stevens' beautiful "Wings Of Love" quotes the famous falsetto
part as an essential piece of its structure.
John DeAngelis:
> I think the Little Richard song that had to be spliced in order to
> be made longer was "Keep A Knockin'."
Simon White:
> You may be thinking of "Keep a Knockin'", which is spliced from a
> short radio station recording (with a line "I'm drinking gin and
> you can't come in" removed) or "Jenny Jenny" which (from memory)
> is two takes spliced together. There maybe another but I'm pretty
> sure it's not "Slippin' and Slidin'", which certainly exists in
> earlier less Little Richard-styled takes by the man himself and
> in different and earlier forms by Eddie Bo and Al Collins.
Thank you, gentlemen - I think "Knockin'" is the one I was thinking
about; I didn't know about the excised line - or about "Jenny Jenny."
(Hmmm - if it had been released in the short version, would it have
just been "Jenny" once?)
Jean Thomas via Ken Charmer:
> ...[A]s Jeanne Fox I recorded "Working Girl" (written and produced
> by Chip Taylor) for Rainy Day Records, part of Jay-Gee Records.
I believe I have that; I know I've heard it, and it's quite nice.
Previously:
> I always loved Shelby (Flint)'s "Angel On My Shoulder" and "Cast
> Your Fate To The Wind"
Gary Myers:
> And I'll add "I Will Love You."
...and the sad and sadly-overlooked "Pipes For Keith" with its
haunting bagpipes.
Country Paul
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:03:50 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Epic 'Memory Lane' 45s
Michael wrote:
> Does anyone know approximately (or precisely, if you know) when Epic
> Records began and discontinued their 'Memory Lane' series of 45s...
> the blue labels with the flower petals?
The most recent one I have is Melba Moore's "You Stepped Into My
Life" / "Pick Me Up, I'll Dance". That came out after its 1978
release....
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:20:33 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Re: Jigsaw - One Way Street?
Bob Radil wrote:
> RE: The MP3 posted in Musica, Jigsaw - One Way Street. Is this the
> same act that in 1975 had a hit with "Sky High"
It is the same band. They went through a few different styles before
they landed with their slick, melodic pop of the mid-70s. I'm not up
on their history in detail but after they released a few singles -
the earliest of them fairly typical of the late 60s style - they
started injecting comedy and theater into their act and onto their
albums. In fact, some of their pre-1975 LPs are quite unusual. Funny
that almost everything on the web and the Taragon "Very Best Of" CD
seems to start their history in 1975, cutting 9 years out of their
story out. I may be wrong but I think "One Way Street" is their first
single. Surely others will chime in.
Mark F.
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