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Spectropop - Digest Number 2064



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There are 25 messages in this issue.


Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Teddy Vann discography
           From: Hans Huss 
      2. Re: Caroline Munro, Clapton, etc
           From: Mark Wirtz 
      3. Jeanne Thomas Fox
           From: Joe Panzarella 
      4. Re: Caroline Munro
           From: DPW 
      5. Re: Bobby Schafto
           From: Peter Andreasen 
      6. Re: Gonna Get Along Without You Now
           From: Various 
      7. Re: Teddy Vann discography
           From: Stephane Rebeschini 
      8. Re: Teddy Vann discography
           From: Will Stos 
      9. Re: Caroline Munro
           From: Frank M 
     10. Re: Righteous Brothers Chart Entries Request
           From: Peter Lerner 
     11. Rhino's Girl Group Box: Sound Quality
           From: John H 
     12. Kenny and the Impacts "Wishing Well"
           From: Robert Indart 
     13. Re: Philadelphia Soul  [a little history]
           From: Artie Wayne 
     14. Re: Gary U.S. Bonds
           From: Steve Jarrell 
     15. Re: Caroline Munro
           From: Mark Wirtz 
     16. Re: Eric Clapton & Mark Wirtz
           From: Eddy 
     17. X-mas questions
           From: Frank Jastfelder 
     18. Re: Teddy Vann discography
           From: Tom D 
     19. Re: Rhino's Girl Group Box: Sound Quality
           From: Rory Musil 
     20. Re: Jeanne Thomas Fox
           From: DooWopDaddy 
     21. Re: Teddy Vann discography
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     22. Re: Caroline Munro
           From: Mark Maldwyn 
     23. Re: Colossus Records and the Dutch Connection
           From: Phil X Milstein 
     24. Re: Gary U.S. Bonds and a Question about LLoyd Price
           From: Regina Litman 
     25. The Temptations - no, not that group
           From: Regina Litman 


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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 03:33:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Hans Huss Subject: Re: Teddy Vann discography Davie Gordon a écrit: > Here's a hopefully near complete listing of records he worked on. > Any help in filling in the gaps would be appreciated. Brilliant! Some great records there - not least the Darlene McCrae single and Larry Hale's 'Once'. Here's two more. MARK JOHNSON (Diamond 237) The Beautiful Place Ode To Otis Redding THE BURNING EMOTIONS (Bang 553) The New World The Whatchama Call it Both 'Beautiful Place' and 'New World' use the rhythm track of the wonderful 'Moonlight, Music And Me'. So, supposedly, does Honey Townsend's 'The World Again' (Mala 540), but I haven't heard it. The flip to the Freddie Williams on Zizz is 'Don't Go To Mars, Stay Home', a throw-away instrumental, Phil Spector style. Hasse Huss -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:21:55 -0000 From: Mark Wirtz Subject: Re: Caroline Munro, Clapton, etc Frank, Mark, The Caroline Munro session took place at a particularly turbulent time (in a good way), at which I was a virtual conveyor belt of churning out records (for the arranging rent money to make up for my paltry producer salary). While my memory is indeed quite clear on many things (much to my own surprise), some things have washed into each other and seem like a bit of a blur. The CM session specifics is one of them. Coinciding with the sessions during the said period, I was living at the Wynton Hotel (sp?) in Bayswater, where Eric Clapton and Mitch Mitchell (among others) were also staying (with Jimi Hendrix a regular, visiting his girlfriend). We all hung out at night at the bar and partied. It was that connection which prompted some of the guys' appearances on some of my sessions as "friends" - the CM session having been one of them (another "Star-studded" session having been Jackie Lynton's "Decision" session). Wo, exactly, played on which session...?? What has complicated matters, are the various erroneous reports about who played on what during the years, some of their faulty specifics I read or heard so often that, even though not correct, I ended up believing them myself. Specifically re: Jimmy Page - I, together with Derek Lawrence, was the first producer (pre-my EMI days) to book Jimmy on union sessions (the same applies to Nicky Hopkins). Whereas Derek and Jimmy hit it off big time (Derek rarely used arrangements on his sessions, thus giving Jimmy free range), I did not get along with Jimmy, who was a poor reader and hated having to play my charts. Besides, on expensive union sessions, when every minute counted, showing up late and stoned close to coma state, did not sit well with me. (Conversely, Nicky became a first-call regular on my sessions, eventually also a close friend whom I miss to this day.) Nevertheless, Jimmy did play on a couple of my sessions at Abbey Road; don't ask me why. By the way, I do wish to state that, my personal chagrin notwithstanding, I always had, and still do, have only the greatest professional respect for Jimmy; I believe he was brilliant to the point of genius. So, by the way, was John Paul Jones, who, in contrast to Jimmy, was a wonderful studio team player -- always helpful and giving his very best. He and John McLaughlin (another regular) had me so in awe, that I often felt embarrassed giving them parts to play that, in their primitive simplicity, seemed like a nigh insult to their musical and creative brilliance. There... How is that for a loooong no-answer to your short questions? ;) Warm best, Mark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:39:32 -0000 From: Joe Panzarella Subject: Jeanne Thomas Fox Ken Charmer: > I heard back from Jean Thomas after passing on the feedback from > this group and this was her reply: Am I safe to assume that this is the same Jeanne Thomas Fox that appears on the "Lords of Flatbush" soundtrack LP? Joe Panzarella -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:32:08 EDT From: DPW Subject: Re: Caroline Munro Previously: > Is this the same Caroline Munro, the "Scream Queen" of 1980's > slasher movies fame? She is.... DPW -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:50:43 -0000 From: Peter Andreasen Subject: Re: Bobby Schafto Justin McDevitt on Bobby Shafto: > By chance, (and I doubt it), is She's My Girl on any compilation? As far as I know, two tracks from Bobby Shafto have made it to CD: "Who wouldn´t love a girl like that" on EMI CDP7903642 "Tio i topp, vol. 3" and "She´s my girl" on EMI 724382113522 "Beat at Abbey Road 63-66" Happy hunting. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:27:00 -0000 From: Various Subject: Re: Gonna Get Along Without You Now One question: > I am trying to find the name of the female artist who did a version > of "Gonna Get Along without You Now" probably @ early sixties. It > wasn't Teresa Brewer, Patience & Prudence or Skeeter Davis, but > someone else. - Diane A bunch of replies: According to allmusic.com, other female artists who recorded that song were Tracey Dey, Penny Marshall and Maureen McGovern. Early- to mid- 60's would most likely be Tracey Dey. Phil Hall ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Might it be Tracey Dey, or is that one considered mid-60s? Will Stos : ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello Diane, The artist that you are looking for was most probably Tracey Dey. It was one of about 10 singles she recorded for Bob Crewe productions from 1962-1966. The last of her singles were done as duets with Gary Knight, recorded as by "Dey & Knight". Almost all of her records were good, many being above average. Her recording of "I Won't Tell" is an absolute girl group classic, although it failed to hit the hot 100 at the time of it's release. A cd of many of her recordings is available occasionally on EBAY from an overseas source, and it features Marcie Blaine on the other half. It is highly recommended and features "Gonna get Along Without You Now". Mike Miller DooWopDaddy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Tracey Dey had a great version on Amy in 1964. Dan Nowicki Phoenix, Arizona, U.S.A. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ooh ooh ooh, call me on! I know this one! Was it Tracey Dey? What do I win?! --Phil M. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- It was Tracey Dey on Amy 901, Diane, also released in the UK on Stateside 287. Dates from 1964. Best wishes, Peter Lerner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Well Diane maybe you can find it here: http://www.originals.be/eng/main.cfm?c=t_upd_show&id=2120 Joop greets ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello Diane, Tracey Dey could be who you're after and she also had a more 'upbeat' arrangement of the song produced by Bob Crew. Will there ever be a dedicated compilation by Tracey Dey on Ace perhaps? This version was covered in Australia by The Taylor Sisters and I wonder if Christine Holmes covered it in the U.K.? All the best, Mark Maldwyn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:12:00 +0200 From: Stephane Rebeschini Subject: Re: Teddy Vann discography Davie Gordon a écrit: > Here's a hopefully near complete listing of records he worked on. > Any help in filling in the gaps would be appreciated. Hi, Great work! You can add this LP to your list: 1969 MAXIMILLIAN (ABC ABCS-696) 8 tracks including Naked Ape (written by Teddy Vann) Prod & arranger: Teddy Vann It's a black psych rock trio with Buddy Bowzer influenced by Hendrix. Stephane http://www.octopusmusic.fr -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 8 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:56:10 -0000 From: Will Stos Subject: Re: Teddy Vann discography Davie Gordon a écrit: > Here's a hopefully near complete listing of records he worked on. > Any help in filling in the gaps would be appreciated. Was "The Jet Set" by the Jet Set also done by Teddy Vann? I first heard it on Girls Will Be Girls Vol. 1 and love it! I thought he was involved. Will : ) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 9 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:27:41 +0100 From: Frank M Subject: Re: Caroline Munro Frank M wrote: > Well Brian Mathews read out a letter from Mark explaining he could > not add much to the story of Caroline Munro that Brian had attached > to the playing of Caroline's single "Tar and Cement". Mark did > point out that whilst Clapton was on the session Bruce and Baker > were not. Dennis: > Is this the same Caroline Munro, the "Scream Queen" of 1980's > slasher movies fame? I suggest you visit: http://www.monstermania.net/Caroline_Munro_Hammer_Photos.htm and see for yourself. Alan: > I was the one who sent an extract of an e-mail that Mark Wirtz had > posted on the Interweb to "Sounds Of The Sixties" (phew). Thanks for doing that. I was at a Ska club with Mungo's Hi Fi on Friday night till 2am so my radio alarm failed to waken me although the words "Mark Wirtz" must have brought me to consciousness. Anyway I have gone to Listen Again at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2 and heard Brian quote your letter, quoting Mark's e mail which says say "Eric Clapton, Steve Howe, Mitch Mitchell, John Paul Jones and (as you say) Big Jim Sullivan on Banjo with Ray Cooper on Percussion and Nicky Hopkins on Piano." And Hi Mark F. Yes it would be good if Mark Wirtz confirmed the line up and maybe explained Clapton's presence. FrankM -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 10 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:15:22 +0100 From: Peter Lerner Subject: Re: Righteous Brothers Chart Entries Request Peter (another one!) asked about Bill Medley's US solo country chart entries. Well, according to Joel Whitburn, they are: 1979 Statue of a fool (UA 1270) reached no 91 1983 Till your memory's gone (RCA 13692) no 29 1984 I still do (RCA 13753) no 17 1984 I've always got the heart to sing the blues (RCA 13851) no 26 1985 Is there anything I can do (RCA 14021) no 47 1984 Women in love (RCA 14081) no 55 Cheers, Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 11 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:23:03 -0000 From: John H Subject: Rhino's Girl Group Box: Sound Quality A friend of mine, someone lucky enough to work in the world of publishing, managed to obtain a promo copy of this. The great news is, he loves it! And he's not someone who was a fan of girl groups before this. Heh. The bad news: when he played several key cuts for me, the sound quality was terrible. This is most noticeable on Cilla's "I've Been Wrong Before," a track which has been anthologized many times already and, so I thought, readily available from the master tapes. There was much vinyl hiss and crackle. What gives? I can understand Rhino not being able to obtain the masters for some of these tracks, but I would have hoped they'd clean them up a little better. (The Hollywood Jills and Toni Basil also sound pretty bad.) That said, these issues are pretty minor. My friend actually found the vinyl sounds charmingly atmospheric, so I'm sure they won't hinder the listening enjoyment for most of us. Can't wait to be able to pick up my own copy. -John H. PS They used my favorite version of Lesley's "What Am I Gonna Do With You," so I'm thrilled already. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 12 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:13:17 -0000 From: Robert Indart Subject: Kenny and the Impacts "Wishing Well" I came across a 45 from a group called Kenny and the Impacts on DCP Records arranged by Teddy Randazzo and Composed by Kenny Seymore (The lead singer). I notice the song was published by Spectorious Music. My question is this the same Spectorious that released a Arlene Smith record in the early sixties that is usually at least in the internet as a Phil Spector Production? By the way these are the same Impacts that recorded Canadian Sunset for RCA IN 1959. The group also featured Sammy Strain before he joined Little Anthony and the Imperials and Kenny Seymore was the lead singer of the Imperials during the early sixties when Little Anthony had left briefly. It's strange how these two groups connect to Teddy Randazzo. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 13 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 06:32:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Philadelphia Soul [a little history] I'm really happy that Phiadelphia Soul is being being discussed. In the early 60s', when I was living in New York, I made it a point to go to Philly, at least once a week, to show my songs to artists and producers. I remember going to sessions at Sigma Sound, where I hung out with Billy Jackson, Elliot Mazer, Joe Wissert and Dave Apple, who was one of the first musicians I ever saw overdub his part directly through the board. I became friendly with Kenny Gamble when I'd run into him up at at Cameo Records, but our relationship became strained when we found out that we going out with the same girl [Dee Dee Sharp]. I met my future writing partner Jerry Ross in the offices of Harold Lipsius, where we both were trying to sell masters. When Philadelphia Soul exploded in the early 70s', much of it was due to the deal that my late manager, Marty Machat made between Gamble and Huff's Phiadelphia International records and Columbia Records. Columbia was trying for years to gain a foothold in the R+B market, but was only moderately succesful. Gamble and Huff were having hits and selling singles, but they weren't selling any albums. The combonation of their incredible artists and superior productions, as well as an unrivaled promotion machine, now had the financial resources and marketing skills of one of the largest record companies in the world. Although, at the time, I didn't get many cover records out of Philly, I cherish the many friendships I made...not to mention the musical inspiration that is with me to this day! regards, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 14 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:40:40 -0500 From: Steve Jarrell Subject: Re: Gary U.S. Bonds Dennis Hoban: > How about Gary (U.S.) Bonds? Is he still alive? I saw him in > "Blues Brothers 2000" in 1998 and haven't heard of him since. Gary U.S. Bonds is very much alive! I spoke with him in May. He has a current CD out entitled "Back In 20". He recently won a blues award for "Best comeback of the Year" award or something like that. I asked him about it and he replied, "I never knew I ever left!" Steve Jarrell -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 15 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:21:59 -0000 From: Mark Wirtz Subject: Re: Caroline Munro Dennis Hoban wrote: > Is this the same Caroline Munro, the "Scream Queen" of 1980's > slasher movies fame? She most certainly is -- a regular in them golden olden "Hammer" films. And don't forget Caroline as one of the fabled "Bond (007) girls"...! Caroline, by the way, continues to be active, looking fabulous, and appearing regularly at Sci-fi - and horror film conventions. Mark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 16 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:39:51 +0200 From: Eddy Subject: Re: Eric Clapton & Mark Wirtz Mark Frumento: > It would be good to have a Clapton expert chime in on this. It > seems odd to me that he was doing session work, especially in 1967, > with all of his Cream activity. This is what Claire Francis had to say on her own 45. We're talking 1966 here. "Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page and Bill Wyman played on: "I've Got My Own Thing Going"; "Here I Go Again" Artist was me. What I remember is that they had specific guitar parts written out by the arranger, except where they improvised, which is at the beginning of "I've Got My Own Thing Going" and on "Here I Go Again"..where Eric played my own 12 String: http://users.skynet.be/rockofages/Clairefrancis/ " So I see no reason why he shouldn't be present on more sessions. It's something he had been doing pretty early on in his career (Otis Spann, Champion Jack Dupree) with quite a few more to follow in 1968/ 69 (Zappa, Aretha, Beatles + various related). But since we do have Mark Wirtz in our midst, it would be nice if he could confirm... Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 17 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:07:12 +0200 From: Frank Jastfelder Subject: X-mas questions Dear Spectropop Santas, I know it's a little bit early but I'm working on the third volume of our X-mas series "Snow - The Get Easy Christmas Compilations" and I'm desperately in need of some informations. So please fill in the gaps. Preferably off-list. I really appreciate your help and your place on the thankslist is granted. Frank Jastfelder Not your typical Spectropop song but I gues one or another Peggy Lee fan is amongst you: Peggy Lee Ring Those Christmas Bells (Fisher/Levine) Shawnee Press Inc. Arranged by ??? Produced by ??? (P) 1953 Decca Records As far as I know it came out as a single b-side only and is so far not re-released yet: The Flirtations Christmas Time Is Here Again (Writer???) Publisher??? Arranged by Produced by (P) 1968 Deram Records Coming out of the talented Mayfield stable: The Stridells I Remember Christmas (Writer???) Publisher??? Arranged by ??? Produced by ??? (P) 1969 Curtom Records On my original LP the song is titled "Prologue" and is credited to Sherman himself. However BMI lists Tom Bahler as writer. Unfortunately there's no arranger on the LP credited. Maybe someone has the Metromedia single to take a look at: Bobby Sherman Goin’ Home (Sing A Song Of Christmas Cheer) (Bahler) Green Apple Music Co Arranged by ??? Produced by Ward Sylvester (P) 1970 Metromedia Records -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 18 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:13:41 -0000 From: Tom D Subject: Re: Teddy Vann discography >From Davie Gordon's Teddy Vann discography: > ROBERTA MESHEL (Diamond 154) BB 01/18/64 > My Top Ten Chart (Teddy Vann, Roger Atkins) > Uptown Blues (Teddy Vann) - THE THEODORE ORCHESTRA > Prod : Teddy Vann I've noticed that Diamond Records used the name Roberta for a few people (one writer [Roberta Harris], one performer [Meshel]), and used Meshel for a number of writers' last names [Sol, Billy, Wilbur] (i have to wonder if any of them were real people (and if so, related?), as at least Roberta Harris was a pseudonym for Diamond president Joe Kolsky [and I believe Sol Meshel was too]). For this record in particular I can tell you that the B side is by Theodore And His Orchestra [not The Theodore Orchestra], so I assume that this is actually by Teddy Vann. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 19 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:24:09 -0700 From: Rory Musil Subject: Re: Rhino's Girl Group Box: Sound Quality John H wrote: > A friend of mine, someone lucky enough to work in the world of > publishing, managed to obtain a promo copy of this ... The bad > news: when he played several key cuts for me, the sound quality > was terrible... Rhino often compiles early cd-r versions of their multi-disc sets prior to putting together the actual finished version. These are sometimes compiled from sources other than the masters that will ultimately be used. Rory -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 20 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:22:03 EDT From: DooWopDaddy Subject: Re: Jeanne Thomas Fox Ken Charmer: > I heard back from Jean Thomas after passing on the feedback from > this group and this was her reply: Joe, Yes, this is the One and Only Jean Thomas, going by her newer married last name. DooWopDaddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 21 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:06:27 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Teddy Vann discography Davie Gordon wrote: > Here's a hopefully near complete listing of records he worked on. > TEDDY VANN DISCOGRAPHY Wow, terrific stuff! I love guys like Vann, who, apparently, worked freelance throughout most or even all of his career, recorded tons of masters which he'd then lease wherever he could. I only hope somebody's gathering all this stuff together, to present Vann's work all in one place. Thanks for the great work, Davie. I have little to add, but when has that ever stopped me from trying? > THE GREAT NATHANIEL (Vann 101) BB12/11/61 > Soul (Teddy Vann) > Lost > Prod : Most likely Magnificent Montague. (Which reminds me that Davie listed another Montague record in his recent Moonshot discog.: 6701 THE DIPPERS Honey Bunch - PT. 1 (N. Nathan) Honey Bunch - PT. 2 (N. Nathan) Prod : Rose Productions Apparently a West Coast record - "N. Nathan" was well known DJ The Magnificent Montague and Rose Productions was his company. ... Agreed. Nathaniel was Montague's (otherwise unused) given name, and Rose his wife's name. He frequently used combinations of those names, as well as his wife's maiden name Catalon, in the credits of records he produced. See (and, better still, hear) yet another such record, "Lost Teenager" by "Nathan Catalon & The Keys" (aka The Magnificents, a vocal group Montague put together for lead singer Johnny Keyes, which began under Montague's auspices during his brief stint in Chicago c.1956, and then went off on their own (with his blessings) to enjoy a long career under that name), which is quite unique and remarkable, at Session 32 of my Probe site, at http://www.philxmilstein.com/probe -- it'll have you turning blue!). > JOHNNY THUNDER (Diamond 132) BB 03/02/63 > The Rosey Dance (Teddy Vann) > Rockabye My Darling (Teddy Vann) > Prod : Teddy Vann Is "The Rosey Dance" another nursery rhyme song, a la "Loop De Loop"? > THE BOBBETTES (Diamond 133) 04/63 > Row, Row, Row (Teddy Vann) > Teddy (Teddy Vann) > Prod : Teddy Vann Seems Vann was here applying that same formula with a female group. > ROBERTA MESHEL (Diamond 154) BB 01/18/64 > My Top Ten Chart (Teddy Vann, Roger Atkins) > Uptown Blues (Teddy Vann) - THE THEODORE ORCHESTRA > Prod : Teddy Vann Great record! Does anyone know anything about Roberta Meshel? > ROBERTA MESHEL (Date 1506) BB 03/19/66 > If There's A People Up There (Teddy Vann) > Space Ballad > Prod : Teddy Vann Have either of these sides been comped at all? > TEDDY VANN (Capitol 5878) 03/67 > Adventures of Colored Man > Theme from Colored Man > Prod : Ditto? By the way I've seen this one attributed to the Teddy Vann Orchestra. > LAURA GREENE (RCA 9164) 04/67 > Moonlight, Music And You (Teddy Vann) > Love Is Strange > Prod : Teddy Vann > > THE SANDPEBBLES (Calla 134) 07/67 > Forget It, I Got It (Teddy Vann,Calvin White) > Psychedelic Technicolor Dream (Teddy Vann) > Prod : Teddy Vann And ditto again, for the above two B-sides? > Somewhere along the line there seems to have been a Christmas album > written and produced by Teddy but so far I haven't been able to > track down details. Which might be the source for the indescribable "Santa Claus Is A Black Man," by Akim & The Teddy Vann Production Company, Akim being apparently Vann's young daughter. The track is included in the recent "A John Waters Christmas" comp, where further credits read "courtesy of Simtone Records/JAD Records," and list Vann (pere) as the writer. Davie's T.V. discog cuts out in '72. Did Vann die then, retire, or his trail simply go cold? Dig, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 22 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:00:46 -0000 From: Mark Maldwyn Subject: Re: Caroline Munro Dennis Hoban: > Is this the same Caroline Munro, the "Scream Queen" of 1980's > slasher movies fame? Yes, the scream queen of the 80's, 70's and 60's-as far as I know and the face (and body) of Lamb's Navy Rum. A great single too. Mark M -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 23 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:27:52 -0400 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: Colossus Records and the Dutch Connection Davie Gordon wrote: > ... Of A Man (Teddy Vann) Little Girl's Gonna Be Trouble Prod : > [AKA Gil Blanding on Ready, he'd had an earlier (1966) single on > Verve and would resurface on Jerry Ross' Colossus label in the > early seventies] 6706 THE SUBWAY RIDERS Adam (Teddy Vann) Aft.. I've been meaning to ask about Colossus Records, and this gives me an ideal opening. As an adolescent in the late '60s/early '70s I knew Colossus as the USA source of some great pop records imported from the Netherlands, by such acts as Tee Set ("Ma Bell And Me" -- just kidding, it was "Ma Belle Amie"), Shocking Blue ("Venu") and George Baker Selection ("Little Green Bag"). (Note that this era was an especially happenin' one for Dutch groups in the USA, with the harder- rockin' Focus and Golden Earring also scoring major hits here, on labels other than Colossus.) Recently, pulling out some Shocking Blue 45s to play, I noticed Jerry Ross' name on Colossus' label, thus perhaps Artie Wayne can offer some behind-the-scenes insights about Colussus. More generally, though, I wonder whether it was set up specifically to handle lease deals with Dutch managers or producers; whether it was a partnership between Ross and a Dutch entrepreneur; if perhaps Ross simply lucked into his "Dutch Connection" via one deal that became especially successful, and thus prompting an follow-up arrangement; etc. Also, did Colossus release records by acts OTHER than Dutch ones? Dank u, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 24 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:12:15 -0000 From: Regina Litman Subject: Re: Gary U.S. Bonds and a Question about LLoyd Price Dennis Hoban wrote: > How about Gary (U.S.) Bonds? Is he still alive? I saw him in > "Blues Brothers 2000" in 1998 and haven't heard of him since. Gary (U.S.) Bonds may have sung about New Orleans, but I remember that he was from the Norfolk, VA, area. Did he relocate to New Orleans? I'll ask my own question - is Lloyd Price still alive? Or does he now live elsewhere? I didn't see him on that list. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 25 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:37:00 -0000 From: Regina Litman Subject: The Temptations - no, not that group I remember someone once sent in a question to Casey Kasem on "American Top 40" asking if two different groups with the same name had ever made the Billboard Top 40. He responded that there had only been one such name as of that time, which probably would have been the early or mid-1970s - the Temptations. One, of course, was the well-known Motown group. The other was a group that did a song called "Barbara" that made the chart in 1960. I don't think I've ever heard "Barbara" by the "other" Temptations. I see from their listing in Whitburn's Top Pop Singles that they were a white doo-wop quartet from Flushing, NY (in Queens). On the Cameo Parkway Box Set (which has allowed me to hear some songs I'd heard OF but never heard before, such as "The Class" by Chubby Checker, "Dinner with Drac Part 1" by John Zacherle, and Evie Sands' version of "Angel of the Morning"), there's a song called "Birds N' Bees" by a group called the Temptations. This song has a very Buddy Holly-like sound to it. It is obviously not the Motown Temptations, but it also doesn't sound like a typical doo-wop group from New York. Is this a third Temptations, or did the "Barbara" group adopt this atypical sound somewhere along the line? The New York Temptations recorded for a label called Goldisc, but it was not uncommon for acts to release one or two singles on a label before moving on. The liner notes don't provide any information about this group and song. The detailed track listing shows that this song was recorded in Philadelphia on February 26, 1959, more than a year before "Barbara" charted. Since the white doo-wop group was from New York, I think the Philadelphia recording location makes it less likely that this was the same group. The recording date was within a month after Buddy Holly's death, so this record may have been intended to be a tribute to his style, whoever it was who was singing it. The songwriters of "Birds N' Bees" are listed as Cooper/Davis/Moore. I had never heard the song before. It's not the same song as "The Birds and the Bees" that was a hit for Jewel Akens. Nor is it the same song as The Newbeats' "(The Bees are for the Birds) The Birds are for the Bees", which I never heard until 2004. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- SPECTROPOP features: http://www.spectropop.com End

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