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There are 12 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Reparata & the Delrons
From: Phil Hall
2. Marcy Jo at the Car Hop
From: Mick Patrick
3. Reparata & The Delrons
From: Phil Hall
4. Rhino's One Kiss Leads to Another / Shrink Wrap Question
From: Richard Williams
5. Re: Tony Orlando - Chills
From: Donald J Hertel
6. Re: Answer Song Edits
From: Fred Clemens
7. Re: Reparata & The Delrons
From: Tony Leong
8. Re: Tony Orlando - Chills
From: Peter Lerner
9. Re: Reparata & The Delrons live
From: Ray Otto
10. Re: Darlene Love and Bobby Sheen - together again in musica
From: Tony Leong
11. Re: Reparata & the Delrons live
From: Tony Leong
12. More on Marcy Jo
From: Wes Smith
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:04:42 -0000
From: Phil Hall
Subject: Re: Reparata & the Delrons
Mick Patrick wrote:
> Some years back my pal J. D. Doyle sent me a tape of (Reparata
> & the Delrons') 1982 appearance on Don K. Reed's Doo Wop Shop.
> The group performed several tracks a cappella live on the air.
> I've posted one song to musica, a rather nice version of that
> fabulous song "So Young":
Mick, this is great stuff. I loved both of the Reparata tracks.
Is it possible there are a few other gems from that tape that
you might post to musica?
Phil H.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:42:46 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Marcy Jo at the Car Hop
Country Paul:
> ... thanks for posting Marcy Jo's "Since Gary Went In The
> Navy" to musica. I didn't know it was about Gary Troxel, but
> have always loved the song...
The S'pop Team:
> Talking of Marcy Jo... The story of this Philly pop princess,
> plus a discography, has just been uploaded to the main S'pop
> website. Either visit the homepage and click on Marcy's
> picture: http://www.spectropop.com Or access the article
> directly here: http://www.spectropop.com/MarcyJo/index.htm
> Enjoy,
Antone:
> Thanks for this, S'pop Team. I'm just beginning to catch up
> on a week's worth (or so) of messages and am glad to know
> there's a Marcy Jo tune at musica that I wasn't familiar with.
> I've long been looking for a new copy of her duet with Eddie
> Rambeau of The Car Hop And The Hard Top.
Sorry, I can't help with "Car Hop". I have a feeling it's out on
CD, but I can't remember which one. I'm sure another S'popper
will know. "Gary" has, however, been re-posted to musica, so cop
a listen: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Details are: Marcy Joe "Since Gary Went In The Navy" (Robbee
R-115, 1961); written by J. Richards and S. Meshel; arranged
and conducted by Lennie Martin; produced by Lennie & Lou.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:17:27 -0000
From: Phil Hall
Subject: Reparata & The Delrons
I found an undated article on the internet that says Reparata &
the Delrons (Mary, Cookie Sirico and Judy Jaye ) still perform
together from time to time. Although I suspect the article may
not be current, does anyone (Tony Leong?) know if they still
perform occasionally? That would definitely be worth making a
trip to the Big Apple for.
Phil H.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:52:56 +0100
From: Richard Williams
Subject: Rhino's One Kiss Leads to Another / Shrink Wrap Question
1. The legendary Hat Box arrived today. Everything everybody has
already said is true: it gives exposure to the obscure, refreshes
the over-familiar, and even transforms records that I've known for
40 years and not particularly liked. Now isn't that the sign of a
great compilation? All it can't do is make me prefer Lesley Gore's
"What Am I Gonna Do With You (Hey Baby)" to the Inspirations'
version. And that's a small, personal thing. Thanks to everybody
concerned in bringing this hoard of treasure to us with such
enthusiasm, imagination and care, and particularly to Sheila
Burgel for her annotation.
2. I reckon UK albums went unshrinkwrapped because, unlike their
US equivalents, the sleeve were already laminated, usually with a
British Celanese product called Clarifoil. Those of us stuck on
this side of the Atlantic greatly lusted after those thick matt-
finish cardboard US sleeves from labels such as Blue Note,
Riverside, Stax, Motown etc.
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:19:16 -0000
From: Donald J Hertel
Subject: Re: Tony Orlando - Chills
Mick asked about:
> "At The Edge Of Tears" Tony Orlando (Epic 9519)
Peter Lerner:
> Well Mick, my 45 is actually Columbia DB 4871 (UK release in 1962),
> and it says that the song is written by B.Arthur and P.Kaufman.
> Orchestra conducted by Matt Maurer. I bought the 45 in 1962 and
> have to say both sides are an absolute gas, the better known A side
> being the remarkable "Chills" by J. Keller and G. Goffin, with
> "orchestra conducted by Carole King". Wow!
Peter, Is "Chills" available on CD? If not, can you play it to Musica.
I've only heard it by Gerry & The Pacemakers.
Don H.
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:40:34 -0000
From: Fred Clemens
Subject: Re: Answer Song Edits
James Botticelli wrote:
> Hi everyone....I'm off on a new project. That is taking songs
> that have answer songs that sound similar and have similar if
> not identical tempos and editing them so they become one song.
> I'm looking for ideas and/or CD Burns of the two songs so I
> can upload them and do the edit.
I tried something like that not too long ago. The original song
was "The Chosen Few" by Dion and the Timberlanes, Dion's first
song from 1957. I recently discovered an answer song to it
recorded two years later by Joyce Heath with the Timberlanes. The
song was called "Promise Me, Sweetheart", and is ALMOST identical
in arrangement. They even share the same musical bridge. With the
Heath song being at a slightly faster tempo, I had them meet at
the bridge when I overlapped them. The way she sings her song is
abit offset to the music when compared to Dion's tune, so when
they overlap, it's like they're singing a duet. If I can ever get
the time AND patience, I suppose I could fine-tune the pitch on
one or the other and have the music match throughout.
Good luck on your project!
Fred Clemens
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:59:45 -0000
From: Tony Leong
Subject: Re: Reparata & The Delrons
Phil Hall wrote:
> I found an undated article on the internet that says Reparata &
> the Delrons (Mary, Cookie Sirico and Judy Jaye ) still perform
> together from time to time. Although I suspect the article may
> not be current, does anyone (Tony Leong?) know if they still
> perform occasionally? That would definitely be worth making a
> trip to the Big Apple for.
Hello Phil, and all the Delrons Fans out there. No, Reparata and
the Delrons no longer perform as a group. Mary disbanded the group
a couple of years ago when she also retired from teaching. The
only "Delron" that still performs but with another group is Nanette
Licari. All of the other members have regular day jobs outside of
the music business.
Tony Leong
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:27:43 +0100
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: Re: Tony Orlando - Chills
Don asked me:
> Peter, Is "Chills" available on CD? If not, can you play it to
> Musica. I've only heard it by Gerry & The Pacemakers.
Don, I have it on the bootleg CD "Tony Orlando Hits and Rarities"
on Marginal 016. I suspect it is now deleted, however, but you may
be able to pick one up via an internet search. If I knew how to
play it to Musica I would! I would appreciate a Spectropop
Masterclass from someone who could explain it simply to me.
Peter
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:55:20 -0400
From: Ray Otto
Subject: Re: Reparata & The Delrons live
Phil Milstein asked:
> Perhaps you could elaborate on the live shows, Ray -- what kinds
> of venues did they play; were they mostly in the NYC area (that
> is, until "Captain Of Your Ship" hit it big in Europe); was it
> mostly in the multiple-act, two-song apiece "revue" format, or
> full-length shows, etc.
The first important live shows the group performed was when
"Teenager" first became popular, the group was signed for two back
to back Dick Clark Caravan of Stars tours. Those were brutal one-
nighters, which, after the first tour, resulted in the break-up of
the original Delrons.
The tours were always advertised and described as a group of
popular recording stars riding on a luxury bus with Dick Clark at
the wheel. In truth, Dick was only on the bus for the picture. He
usually flew in to the shows to introduce the acts, and then only
for the big-city stops. On their first tour there wasn't even a
bus. They were provided with rented station wagons that the
"stars" drove themselves. So, Lou Christie or Round Robin or
somebody else was usually asked to drive hours and hours going
from gig to gig.
On the second tour they had a bus, but sometimes, instead of
stopping at a hotel, they rode all night to their next stop. Mary
remembers Ron Dante climbing up to and sleeping in the luggage
racks of the bus. The venues were a mixed bag of places. In small
cities it might have been a small place with a few hundred in the
audience. In large cities the show sometimes drew thousands.
Regardless of the size of the venue, the show was always sold out.
Mary became good friends with Lou Christie from the first tour,
and she will always be very grateful to Ron Dante and The
Detergents for volunteering to sing background for her on the
second tour when her Delrons chose to quit the group.
In the New York City area, "Teenager" and "Tommy" became big hits
locally so the group performed at all the popular places: the
Bitter End, the Starlight Lounge, the Page Two on Long Island,
and so many other clubs whose names have escaped me. The show was
about an hour in length. They sang their own songs and had their
own back-up band. Their set included many of the girl group
favorites: "Dancing in The Street," "Heat Wave," etc.
Once Lorraine and and Nanette joined the team, the act became
fine-tuned. They started doing a Spector medley: "He's A Rebel,"
"Be My Baby," "Da Do Ron Ron," "Then He Kissed Me," etc. They
also did "Leader Of The Pack" (which was great -- they donned
leather jackets and did a really humorous rendition of the song).
Plus, "Please Mister Postman," "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy," "Tell
Him," "So Young," and/or "I Believe." The show and the song
selections kept changing through the years, so it was always
fresh.
In the seventies and especially in the early eighties and right
into the nineties, they participated in many oldies shows with
other artists. Here they usually did three songs. They turned
"Teeanger" and "Tommy" into a one-song medley and then did two
others.
Overall, just like any other act I suppose, they did the gamut
of venues, from bowling alleys and gymnasiums to places like
Madison Square Garden and Atlantic City hotel lounges. Most of
the shows were in the tri-state New York area, but occasionally
they had a gig further away.
Ray
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 04:06:29 -0000
From: Tony Leong
Subject: Re: Darlene Love and Bobby Sheen - together again in musica
David A Young:
> Playing in musica currently are dueling versions of "I Shook the
> World." The first, from 1963, is credited to Bob B. Soxx & the Blue
> Jeans and comes from their sole LP; since it hasn't been released
> on CD, I can share it with you here. Darlene sings lead (and
> background); what I find curious about this and another song from
> the album, "Jimmy Baby," is that they have the same backing tracks
> as their co-composer Jackie DeShannon's demo versions. I've always
> wondered: How is it that Phil came to produce demos for her (at
> least these two)? Bill George or Peter Lerner, do you know the
> answer to that question?
Um, I actually have a Japanese released CD of the "Bob B Soxx and
the Blue Jeans" 1963 LP. I think it was a bootleg as the sound is
horrible, but that is the ONLY CD release of that LP that I have
seen!!
Tony Leong
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 04:28:24 -0000
From: Tony Leong
Subject: Re: Reparata & the Delrons live
Ray Otto wrote:
> Phil, I agree, it is a great performance. "So Young" was
> Reparata's favorite song from the Ronettes Philles album. She
> used to play and sing along with Ronnie long before she was
> singing professionally. It then became a staple in R & D's live
> shows.
Phil M:
> Perhaps you could elaborate on the live shows, Ray -- what kinds
> of venues did they play; were they mostly in the NYC area (that
> is, until "Captain Of Your Ship" hit it big in Europe); was it
> mostly in the multiple-act, two-song apiece "revue" format, or
> full-length shows, etc.
Each time I saw the Delrons in the '80's or '90's, it was an even
mixture of them performing alone or in a revue. They usually did
covers "("Get Ready", "Too Many Fish In The Sea" and a medley
((Andrews Sisters or Everly Bros.)). When they did "Teenager"
and "Tommy", it was usually in abbreviated form. To my dismay,
they never sang "Do Wah Diddy" or any of the RCA or Bell material.
They did a great versatile show. I also recall Mary talking about
the Dick Clark Tours in the '60's then singing "Tears On My Pillow".
I do know that the 2 Dick Clark tours in early 1965 were the groups'
first major treks (they shared the bill with the Stones (select
shows), Shangri-Las (for 2 weeks), Billy Stewart, Herman, Tommy Roe,
Del Shannon, Detergents and many many others that came and went).
Then Mary and/or Nanette said they did live shows on weekends and
school vacations as they were full timers in Brooklyn College until
"Captain Of Your Ship". Then they did clubs and promo shows in
Europe. Back in the Ny area by the late '60's, they were back to
doing smaller clubs because those Caravan of Stars type tours did
not exist any longer. Then later, the "Revival Shows" started, and
that's where I usually saw them performing (not to mention fairs
and park shows in the boroughs). Again, they always put on a great
show, and were always very nice to me when I went to chat with them.
And I always called Mary (to this day actually) "Mrs O Leary"
because she was a school teacher!!!!!!
Tony Leong
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 05:56:08 -0000
From: Wes Smith
Subject: More on Marcy Jo
Previously:
> Talking of Marcy Jo... The story of this Philly pop princess,
> plus a discography, has just been uploaded to the main S'pop
> website. Either visit the homepage and click on Marcy's picture:
> http://www.spectropop.com Or access the article directly here:
> http://www.spectropop.com/MarcyJo/index.htm Enjoy.
Another Marcy gem is the back side of her lone Billboard chart hit,
"Ronnie". "My First Mistake" is a nice ballad that shouldn't be
overlooked bt her fans. Also, I noticed that "Ronnie" was getting
air play on WORC, Worcester, Ma., a good couple of months before
charting on Billboard in May, 1961. In reply to another post, "The
Car Hop And The Hardtop" is included on the (U.K.) Castle 3 C.D.
set, "Midnight Cryin' Time", as are many other good uncommon sides
and sound quality on this set is excellent to my ears.
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