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There are 5 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Lifeguard, Please Don't Talk To The
From: Phil X Milstein
2. Re: Christmas is the time to be with the Orchids
From: Mick Patrick
3. The Secret History of the Whippets, a NYC girl group
From: Kim Cooper
4. "It's A Go-Go Place"
From: Phil X Milstein
5. Re: Jingle Bell Rock in STEREO
From: Mark Hill
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:25:51 -0500
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Lifeguard, Please Don't Talk To The
Mark Maldwyn wrote:
> Diane Ray's version of "Please Don't Talk To The Lifeguard"
> is fine as is Andrea Carroll's version which I find more
> 'experimental'. Whose recording came first?
Mick Patrick wrote:
> Andrea's version came out on Epic 9450 in 1961. Diane's was
> released two years later on Mercury 72117. My vote goes to
> Diane, but I like 'em both when I'm in the mood for that
> perky sound.
Skeeter Davis recorded a version, as well.
http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/SkDobit.htm
--Phil M.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:36:48 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Christmas is the time to be with the Orchids
Me on the Orchids:
> Before moving to the Roulette label in 1965 for a final
> release cut with producer Teddy Randazzo, the young quintet
> delivered two further singles on Columbia, including the
> rare delight of a girl group Christmas record. That seasonal
> offering is now playing at musica:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica
Rob Indart:
> Does anybody know what records did the Orchids cut with Teddy
> Randazzo? The only Roulette recordings I have are the ones
> Teddy did with Derek Martin which are great in their own right!!!
Yes. The details are:
The Orchids
Roulette 4633, 1965
A: Love Is What You Make It (Van McCoy)
B: Good Good Time (Rudy Clark)
Arranged and produced by Teddy Randazzo
Like all of the Orchids' other records, it's an excellent two-
sider. Steve Venet, Lor Crane, Teddy Randazzo - the group sure
worked with some great producers. I even saw a photo of them
in the studio with Terry Melcher and Bobby Darin.
Yes, those Derek Martin 45s are great, aren't they?
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:26:07 -0800
From: Kim Cooper
Subject: The Secret History of the Whippets, a NYC girl group
Direct from group member Bibbe Hansen, here's the story of how
three little panhandlers ended up making one of the silliest
Beatles tribute recordings, "Let's Go Go Go With Ringo."
Featuring Jack Kerouac's daughter, the Tokens, Colpix, Laurie,
Murray the the K's mom and a link to hear the song.
Where? Lost in the Grooves, natch: http://tinyurl.com/c86ro
enjoy,
Kim
Editrix
Scram
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:21:27 -0500
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: "It's A Go-Go Place"
Artie Wayne wrote:
> For the next year I represented some of the best staff
> writers in the buisness, Jerry Fuller, Sonny Curtis,
> J.J.Cale, Jimmy Griffen, DeWayne Blackwell and Alan
> O'Day, who was just starting his career.
Cale's 1965 Liberty record, "It's A Go-Go Place" / "Dick Tracy,"
certainly intrigues with its titles. Does anyone know if it's
been comped at all, or is generally available? Do any of his
other early records fall within Spectropop territory?
Dig,
--Phil
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:00:46 -0500
From: Mark Hill
Subject: Re: Jingle Bell Rock in STEREO
Me:
> As for the rest of the COLLECTION. Highlights being FANTASTIC,
> **STEREO** versions of BRENDA LEE- Rocking Around The Christmas
> Tree and BOBBY HELMS- Jingle Bell Rock. I mention this because
> I bought a Rhino Christmas comp on LP and later CD that only
> had the BOBBY HELMS cut in mono.
Matt Spero asks:
> I have never heard Jingle Bell Rock in STEREO anywhere. Please
> give us the information on what CD or album has the STEREO
> version.
The info on the CD I mentioned was in the post you responded to.
Here is the information again:
GREATEST CHRISTMAS COLLECTION
Good Times Music 2-CD set UPC: 0 18713 01956 1
(c. 1999 Universal Music Special Markets)
AMAZON link to the CD: http://tinyurl.com/dyzpk
I have since retrived my other RHINO cd to compare. That CD is
Rhino's "Christmas Classics" (0 8122-70192-2 8) from 1988. Has
a flat, mono version of "Jingle Bell Rock."
Listening again to the Universal CD, I guess I don't hear "true"
stereo separation of any instruments or vocals. The element
present on the Universal CD, missing on the 1988 Rhino one is
well, placed *REVERB*. Making it sound almost stereo. It's not
the crippling bass on the left, treble on the right "electronic
stereo", and this is not a re-recording, just added reverb. It's
been on previously released versions as well, and really makes
it shine.
That brought it back to my ears, as the way I remember playing
the vinyl in my childhood. Though now I can't recall for sure if
it was the original Decca 45 rpm or the United Artists "12 Hits
Of Christmas" LP (c.1975) where I first heard the reverb. But
that will have to be another project. As my turntable and vinyl
is stored away for the time being.
So can anyone confirm... was the original "Jingle Bell Rock"
RECORDED only in mono or in true stereo?
Dr. Mark
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