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There are 23 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Jack Nitzsche & The Escorts on RCA
From: Rob
2. Spector box reissue?
From: Robert J Dewar
3. American Bandstand database
From: Hugo Montoya
4. Re: Jack Nitzsche ROTW
From: Johnny D
5. early fade on Pitney track
From: Paul Rusling
6. Re: mysteries solved
From: Phil X Milstein
7. Re: Paul & Barry Ryan "I Love How You Love Me"
From: Phil Chapman
8. L.A. record stores
From: Tracy Pernell
9. Re:"Nothing Matters But You"; Jean Thomas
From: Julio Niño
10. Righteous Brothers "Gold" album
From: Peter Richmond
11. Rhino Girls
From: S'pop Projects
12. Marva Holiday
From: Mick Patrick
13. Re: Righteous Brothers "Gold" album
From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran
14. Re: Pinz & Leka ?
From: Regina Litman
15. Re: Righteous Brothers "Gold" album
From: Steve Dworkin
16. Re: Howard Boggess question
From: Artie Wayne
17. Re: Les Fradkin
From: Eddy
18. Red Bird Questions
From: Marc Miller
19. Unchained
From: Roberto Lanterna
20. Re: L.A. record stores
From: Bill Smith
21. Righteous Brothers
From: Paul Oliverio
22. Re: L.A. record stores
From: Paul Oliverio
23. Re: Righteous Brothers
From: Gary Myers
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:37:13 -0000
From: Rob
Subject: Jack Nitzsche & The Escorts on RCA
Does anybody know where I can find The Escorts' "You Can't
Even Be My Friend" on CD? The only information I have on this
recording is that Jack Nitzsche arranged and conducted the
session. I'm not sure whether this is the same Escorts group
on Coral that had Richard Perry and Genya Ravan as members.
Best regards,
Rob
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:28:37 -0000
From: Robert J Dewar
Subject: Spector box reissue?
Hi, people. I've been reading this fascinating group online
rather sporadically and really enjoying it. I'm not a real
collector of this genre but have always loved particular songs,
artists, producers and etc. I'm just beginning to grasp how
much I am missing..lol..
Anyway, I read through some of the threads from 2001 on
the Spector "Back To Mono" boxset, which came out way back
in 1991, and there seemed to be a consensus that it was a
nice way to collect a lot of music, but that the sound left
a lot to be desired. Discussion of the "other" Rhino set
that Spector kiboshed also had me intrigured as the
sound was seemingly much better.
Anyhow, with the recent decision of Abkco to release the
Rolling Stones and Cameo-Parkway material the thought does
spring to mind that perhaps someone would undertake to
do the job right and issue a credible remastering of the
"Back To Mono" material. Or am I being hopelessly naive?
I thought the new girl group box from Rhino was a gift from
heaven, and it immediately got me thinking about PS.
Robert J. Dewar
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:19:20 -0000
From: Hugo Montoya
Subject: American Bandstand database
I was just surfing for some info and the following page caught
my eye. It's a chronological database listing all the guest
performers on American Bandstand, episode by episode, starting
with day one. It isn't complete, but there is a LOT of information
there, and I can imagine it would be quite useful to some of the
more research-minded group members.
http://tinyurl.com/c65f5
The bird is the word ... some restrictions may apply.
Cheers --
Hugo M.
http://free.hostdepartment.com/P/PME
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:03:00 -0000
From: Johnny D
Subject: Re: Jack Nitzsche ROTW
Martin Roberts wrote:
> The original is best! Well, that's what I was brought
> up to believe. Make your own mind up by listening to the
> Record of the Week, Merry Clayton's "It's In His Kiss"
> (Capitol 4984), now playing on the Home page:
> http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm
Fascinating! Nice version.
It's interesting to compare Merry's version to the hit. It's been
said that the first few seconds of a single often determined its
fate. The hit version has no instrumental intro -- just Betty
coming on like gangbusters, and Betty's version is also a bit
peppier, with that Latin cha-cha sound and that crazy xylophone
solo.
Thanks for posting this, Martin.
John DeAngelis
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:51:58 +0000
From: Paul Rusling
Subject: early fade on Pitney track
Alan asked:
> I've just been listening to "Something's Gotten Hold Of
> My Heart," my favourite Gene Pitney track, and I wondered
> if anyone else wonders why it seems to fade out a little
> too early.
In concert Pitney would achieve the same effect by walking
away from the microphone (as anyway it was the show closer
for most of his tours from 1968 to 1974).
You may remember Big Dee Irwin did the same thing with
"Swinging On A Star," but he walked so far he once fell
right off the stage.
Hope that helps,
Paul Rusling
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:51:33 -0500
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: mysteries solved
Artie Wayne wrote:
> Donald...How ya'doin'? I co-produced the Warm and"Some Kind
> Of Wonderful" [Goffin/ King], with Howard Bogess for Decca
> in 1969...as I remember it had some really cool chord
> progressions.
James Holvay wrote:
> Mystery solved on "Where Angels Live" ... It was written by
> Jimmy Peterson, who was the leader and frontman/singer for a
> group called The Chicagoans. I was the guitar player in the
> group. We were living in New York in '63 and performing at
> various clubs in the city (i.e. Peppermint Lounge, Metropole,
> etc.). ...
All hail the mighty Spectropop! I mean, did you ever ... ?
Dig,
--Phil M.
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new at Probe:
* male cover of "You Won't Even Know His Name," from 1969 Curb-scored
flick "The Big Bounce"
* three records in which the performer divulges his mailling address
* New York Doll Killer Kane
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:11:40 -0000
From: Phil Chapman
Subject: Re: Paul & Barry Ryan "I Love How You Love Me"
Mark:
> Would anyone have the Ryan Twins version to post to musica?
> I'd love to hear it again.
It's there now. Not that bad as covers go, produced by ex-Searcher
Chris Curtis. I like the overdriven Leslied guitar solo, presumably
a 'name' session player.
This track has been up for examination on S'pop before, and I'm still
curious as to the tuning on the bagpipes on the Ryans' version (in A).
I understand that the standard Scottish pipe tuning is B-flat (as per
Nino & April). Perhaps the track was sped up for the pipes overdub?
PC
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:33:20 -0000
From: Tracy Pernell
Subject: L.A. record stores
Attention, all Los Angeles-area Spectropoppers:
I'm making my first trip to Los Angeles in March, and I'm
asking all those residents and/or those familiar with the
Greater Los Angeles area to let me know what used CD/
record stores exist there. Your replies with the street
address of the stores would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Tracy Pernell
Nashville
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:28:48 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: Re:"Nothing Matters But You"; Jean Thomas
Hola everybody.
First of all I want to thank Jeff Lemlich for letting me know
that there's a version of Geld & Udell's "Nothing Matters But
You" by Brian Hyland. I've been searching among my records
and I don't have it. I suspect that I could like it, because I
love Brian's voice, and the way he looked in the early sixties
gives an extra appeal to his recordings, so I will try to find it.
I've been looking in a very interesting list of Udell/Geld songs
that David L. Gordon kindly sent me, and it seems that the song
was also recorded by The Banned in 1967, on Fontana.
Thanks also to Ken Charmer for the Jean Thomas song list.
Reading it is totally tantalizing. It would be a wonderful
compilation if some label would release it. It's difficult
to choose a song when there´s so many that I'm not familiar
with, but some titles that especially attract me are "People Will
Talk", "He's So Near" or "Don´t Make Me Fall In Love With You".
I´m going to lay on my couch and read a little of Ken Emerson's
"Always Magic In The Air". So far I'm enjoying it a lot.
Chao.
Julio Niño.
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:20:39 -0000
From: Peter Richmond
Subject: Righteous Brothers "Gold" album
The Righteous Brothers "Gold" album has finally been released
and as I had hoped, the Bobby Hatfield tracks included on
this compilation that were originally mono only single tracks,
scheduled to be included on an unissued 1969 Bobby Hatfield
Verve album, are the stereo mixes.
These tracks are - "Brothers" "Only You" "My Prayer" and
"Answer Me".
The first Bobby Hatfield solo single, "Hot Tamales" - familiar
to Spector collectors as it was included on the Righteous
Brothers "Back To Back" Philles album, is also in stereo for
the first time and has a longer fade out.
There are four mono tracks, the Righteous Brothers "Little
Latin Lupe Lu", Bobby Hatfield's "Hang Ups", Bill Medley's
first solo single "Gotta Tell You How I Feel" - on CD for the
first time and rather surprisingly, "That Lucky Old Sun" which
has been issued on a West German Verve CD previously in stereo.
All the rest of the tracks are in stereo and are the standard
issues with the exception of "(You're My) Soul & Inspiration",
which is the extra intro version.
Looking through the credits, as on the recent Righteous
Brothers compilation "Retrospective" also put out by Universal
a few months back, Phil Spector is credited as producer of
"Unchained Melody" with Jack Nitzsche as arranger - although
in the liner notes by Todd Everett, he cites Bill Medley as
the producer.
Another interesting credit that I have never seen previously,
is Jack Nitzsche as co arranger with Gene Page on "You've Lost
That Lovin Feelin".
Peter.
http://www.righteousbrothersdiscography.com
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:35:07 -0000
From: S'pop Projects
Subject: Rhino Girls
Back in October, Rhino Records unleashed "One Kiss Can Lead
To Another: Girl Group Sounds - Lost And Found", their highly
acclaimed 120-track 4CD box set. A few weeks later they threw
a wonderful gig at the Cutting Room in New York to mark its
release. S'poppers from as far and wide as Seattle, New
Jersey, London and the Big Apple itself spontaneously
converged on the venue to witness some of their girl group
idols in action. Read David A. Young's report of the event
here:
http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/index2006.htm#Rhino
Enjoy,
The S'pop Team
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:37:41 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Marva Holiday
Julio Niño:
> While I was having my endless Saturday breakfast I've been
> reading and enjoying the last Spectropop features. Thanks
> to Phil M. for the very interesting chronicle about Marva
> Holiday (I loved her picture)...
Try her record, dear boy, playing now at musica:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica
Deets: Marva Holiday "It's Written All Over My Face" (GNP
Crescendo (GNP Crescendo 411, 1968); written by Sherlie
Matthews.
I saw Marva perform this song live on stage at Cleethorpes
last year, with Sherlie Matthews and Jim Gilstrap on backups.
I'm in the midst of an on/off email interview with Sherlie,
the Queen of Mirwood soul. With any luck, it should be
available on-line sometime soon. In the meantime, those who
haven't seen it yet can read Phil's interview with Marva
here: http://www.spectropop.com/HOTB/HOTBpart6.htm
Thanks to Simon for the dub.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:02:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Einar Einarsson Kvaran
Subject: Re: Righteous Brothers "Gold" album
Peter Richmond:
> Another interesting credit that I have never seen previously,
> is Jack Nitzsche as co arranger with Gene Page on "You've Lost
> That Lovin Feelin".
Another note on "Lovin' Feeling" is that the drummer is Earl
Palmer and not Hal Blaine, as is sometimes believed.
Einar
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:11:44 -0000
From: Regina Litman
Subject: Re: Pinz & Leka ?
Lyn:
> Shelley Pinz died in 2004.
> See my PopArchives: The Blog
> at http://tinyurl.com/clbw2
Thanks for posting this link. After learning from this group
recently that the Sandy Linzer/Denny Randell songwriting team
was male/male instead of the female/male I had long thought
it was (especially since they were responsible for one of the
sappiest Monkee songs of all, "The Day we Fall in Love"), I
was relieved to learn that Shelley Pinz was a Rochelle, not a
Sheldon, and thus the Pinz/Paul Leka was a female/male team.
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:24:53 EST
From: Steve Dworkin
Subject: Re: Righteous Brothers "Gold" album
Peter Richmond:
> Looking through the credits, as on the recent Righteous
> Brothers compilation "Retrospective" also put out by Universal
> a few months back, Phil Spector is credited as producer of
> "Unchained Melody" with Jack Nitzsche as arranger - although
> in the liner notes by Todd Everett, he cites Bill Medley as
> the producer.
I don't know this for a fact, but I have the Philles Righteous
Brothers album with "Unchained Melody" on it. I bought it when
it was released and it's in stereo. If you listen to "Unchained
Melody", one channel at a time, one channel has bass, drums,
guitar & is very unSpector like. especially the sound of the
drums. The other channel contains the strings & the background
voices with tons of Spector echo. I think that this was produced
by Bill Medley, like most of their Philles album cuts & Phil
Spector took a liking to it & overdubbed the strings, voices,
etc. That's just my theory. By the way, here's a good trivia
question. Does anyone know what film "Unchained Melody"
originally came from?
- Steve Dworkin
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:49:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Howard Boggess question
Country Paul:
> I have Howard Boggess's "Hollywood" (on either Jamie or Guyden)
> from the 60s - it sounds like it could have been an album
> track. He was also mentioned in S. J. Dibai's Kit Kats
> discussion group. Who is/was he? Did he have an album? (Were
> you involved?) What else did he do? Is he still alive?
Paul...How ya' doin'? Howard Boggess and I produced four or five
records together. I don't have any other info on him...I haven't
seen or heard from him for 30 years.
regards, Artie
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:48:01 -0000
From: Eddy
Subject: Re: Les Fradkin
Me:
> Les Fradkin has a new cd out. It's called "Goin' back" and
> I figured many of you might be interested in this one !
> Besides the fact that it includes excellent versions of six
> 60's classics (Byrds, Hollies, Searchers, Left Banke,
> Honeycombs) and guest appearances by Mick Ronson and Richie
> Furay, the piece-de-resistance may very well be "I could
> Make it Last Forever". This recording dates back to 1972/73,
> to a failed Left Banke reunion and does indeed feature the
> complete line-up of Michael Brown, Tom Finn, Steve Martin,
> George Cameron and even Harry Lookofsky on violins and
> string arrangement.. Needless to say this is a historic
> recording that will no doubt please the crowd in here !
> Check it out at CDbaby at http://www.cdbaby.com/lesfradkin6
I'm sorry, I made a slight error in the link here. The correct
one should be http://www.cdbaby.com/lesfradkin9 Do check it out!
MAGNIFICENT album!!
Eddy
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:25:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Marc Miller
Subject: Red Bird Questions
I have 2 questions about Red Bird. I'm listening to the
2-CD Charly set that came out in '91 and in the booklet
they make reference to John Hammond being signed to Tiger
early on. Did he record for the label? Was anything
released?
Also, they say that in '90 tapes surfaced while cleaning
out the NY office some of which contained unreleased
material. Did any of this ever come out (besides the
Jelly Beans "In Session" stuff that's on this set)?
Marc
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:42:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Roberto Lanterna
Subject: Unchained
Steve Dworkin wrote:
> By the way, here's a good trivia question. Does anyone
> know what film "Unchained Melody" originally came from?
The following is a link to the IMDb page for the "Unchained"
movie where the song came from.
Ciao
Roberto
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048762/combined
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:47:16 -0500
From: Bill Smith
Subject: Re: L.A. record stores
>From my friend Andy, who lives off Santa Monica Blvd:
Amoeba Music
Sunset & Ivar
(1 block west of the Cinerama Dome)
Hollywood
323-245-6400
Record Surplus
11609 Pico Blvd.
(1-1/2 blocks east of Barrington)
West L.A.
310-478-4217
(Aron's and Rhino will undoubtedly have closed by the time
of your arrival.)
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:19:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Oliverio
Subject: Righteous Brothers
A prehistoric moment in the 'hood >>>
Long defunct but somewhere between the Harbor Freeway at
Martin Luther King Blvd. and Manual Arts HS was a club that
held open mic nights. An all black club, there was a rare
white act on stage. They called themselves "Blue-eyed Soul."
They were teenagers named Bobby Hatfield and Bill Medley.
And Goddam! they rocked the house. the next time they got
up on the open mic stage, the host said "Man these white
brothers sure are Righteous!"
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:35:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Oliverio
Subject: Re: L.A. record stores
Tracy Pernell wrote:
> Attention, all Los Angeles-area Spectropoppers:
> I'm making my first trip to Los Angeles in March, and I'm
> asking all those residents and/or those familiar with the
> Greater Los Angeles area to let me know what used CD/
> record stores exist there. Your replies with the street
> address of the stores would be greatly appreciated!
ATOMIC RECORDS in Burbank. Take Hollywood Way exit from
Ventura Freeway. (at top of ramp from eastern exit. Fast
left and first right from western exit) ?.8 miles to
MAGNOLIA BLVD. (There's a Rite-Aid on corner) LEFT >>> two
blocks on left is Atomic.
Absolute wonderland for second hand jazz and oldies non
pareil. Not friendliest management but well-informed.
If you get to Burbank, you want Hollywood Way/Magnolia Blvd.
intersection.
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:35:56 -0800
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Righteous Brothers
Paul Oliverio:
> Long defunct but somewhere between the Harbor Freeway at
> Martin Luther King Blvd. and Manual Arts HS was a club that
> held open mic nights. An all black club, there was a rare
> white act on stage ... they rocked the house. the next time
> they got up on the open mic stage, the host said "Man these
> white brothers sure are Righteous!"
That's different from the story I heard, which is that Medley
& Hatfield were doing their regular gig at a club in Santa Ana.
Many marines would come in the club and began to refer to the
duo as the righteous brothers.
gem
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