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There are 11 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Howard Boggess/Sally Sayin' Something
From: S.J. Dibai
2. Re: American Bandstand database
From: Paul Oliverio
3. Unchained
From: Regina Litman
4. Re: American Bandstand Original Dancers
From: Ray
5. Re: Righteous Brothers
From: Max Weiner
6. L. A. Record Stores
From: Brian Chidester
7. "From a distance" P F Sloan/Odin's People
From: Jeff
8. Re: Spector box reissue?
From: Kurt B.
9. Re: Red Bird Questions
From: Randy Poe
10. Re: L.A. record stores
From: Kurt Benbenek
11. Re: Jean Thomas
From: Martin Roberts
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:40:26 -0000
From: S.J. Dibai
Subject: Re: Howard Boggess/Sally Sayin' Something
Country Paul wrote:
> Artie, I have Howard Boggess's "Hollywood" (on either Jamie
> or Guyden) from the 60s - it sounds like it could have been
> an album track.
I looked at discogs for both imprints. I found it on Jamie
1396, a catalogue number that would seem to put it in late
1970 or early '71. I see also that the flip side was a song
called "20th Generation Sad," and that Jamie 1397 contained
that same title as performed by "Captain Freak & Lunacycle
Band." Also, I discovered that Boggess wrote "20th Generation
Sad" with Mickey Lee Lane!
> He was also mentioned in S. J. Dibai's Kit Kats discussion
> group. Who is/was he?
Who's S.J. Dibai? That would be me. I am the founder of....oh,
you meant who's Boggess? I believe he was a member of The
Hippies (aka The Tams, but not the ones who did "What Kind of
Fool") and co-wrote their "Memory Lane." But I KNOW he and
Harry Moffitt wrote The Kit Kats' "Hey Saturday Noon" (also
on Jamie) and Billy Harner's "Sally Sayin' Something" (though
the 45s I've seen of the latter credit the writers as Sunshine
and Poltergeist!). So Boggess appears to be a Philly figure.
Speaking of "Sally Sayin' Something," that record was
humongous in Philadelphia in 1967, but it wasn't a national
hit. I suspect it was banned in many markets for having rather
racy lyrics, but does anyone here know whether that actually
happened?
S.J. Dibai
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:27:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Oliverio
Subject: Re: American Bandstand database
> It's a chronological database listing all the guest
> performers on American Bandstand, episode by episode,
Wow!
I was hoping this database would also name the original
Bandstand dancers. That's the info I'm more interested
in, because I fell in love with one of the dancers named
Cookie, who gave "Ruby Baby" by Dion & Belmonts a 97
"....because you can dance to it before and after hours."
Paul
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:21:44 -0000
From: Regina Litman
Subject: Unchained
A few years ago, my living room hosted what I called the "As
Time Goes By Film Festival", with me, then between jobs, as
the only attendee. Over a period of about three months, I
rented from video stores or borrowed from libraries every
movie that was available on video (VHS was still the dominant
format back then and still is the only video format that's
got a machine hooked up to my living room television) that had
a song featured on Neil Diamond's 1998 release "The Movie
Album: As Time Goes By". Of the 20 movies that, to the best of
my knowledge, were the ones in which the songs on this album
made their film debut, I was able to find 18 of them.
The only two I couldn't find, because they've apparently never
been released on video, were this one and an early 1930s
production called "Puttin' on the Ritz", from which the album
representative was the title song. I was able to find more
recent movies that featured each song and thus substituted
them - "Ghost" for "Unchained Melody" and "Young Frankenstein"
for "Puttin' on the Ritz". I've since learned that there's a
1940s movie featuring Fred Astaire that also includes "Puttin'
on the Ritz". The title slips my mind right now, although
ironically, I had located it in the online catalog of a public
library I pass near on my way home from work the rare times I
drive to work rather than take public transportation. I did
drive to work today and even considered stopping there to get
the movie (after first doing some research to get the title),
but I wasn't sure I'd be able to get back there before its
due date of next Wednesday, so I didn't.
For months after I concluded this "film festival", I checked
the alphabetical movies list contained in my local paper's
weekly T.V. listings section to see if either "Unchained" or
"Puttin' on the Ritz" was scheduled to air, so I could see it
at last. But neither ever showed up, not even on a channel
that my cable company doesn't carry, such as Turner Movie
Channel, or that is a premium channel my household has chosen
not to pay for, such as HBO. I'm guessing that no one
currently has the rights to show them.
I first became familiar with the song "Puttin' on the Ritz"
as a result of the 1983 hit by Taco. (I probably saw "Young
Frankenstein" when it came out in the 1970s, but I didn't
remember the song.) For 15 years, until it showed up on the
aforementioned Neil Diamond album, I thought it was a song
that had been newly-written back in 1983 but given a "retro"
sound. I didn't see a copy of the single or any other clue
that would have shown the Irving Berlin songwriting credit.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:52:59 -0000
From: Ray
Subject: Re: American Bandstand Original Dancers
Paul:
> I was hoping this database would also name the original
> Bandstand dancers. That's the info I'm more interested
> in, because I fell in love with one of the dancers named
> Cookie, who gave "Ruby Baby" by Dion & Belmonts a 97
> "....because you can dance to it before and after hours."
An hour-long PBS pledge special celebrating the experiences
of the original Bandstand dancers during Philadelphia’s
golden days of rock’n’roll. Remember Bob and Justine? Arlene
Sullivan? Eddie Kelly and Bunny Gibson?
http://www.teleduction.com/order/bandstand.htm
Ray
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 04:31:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Max Weiner
Subject: Re: Righteous Brothers
I have heard so many different versions. This is what the
official RB website says about the name:
The Righteous Brothers actually began existence as members
of a 5-piece group called The Paramours. Performing in a
local bar, a Black marine in the audience shouted out after
one of their duets, "That was righteous, brothers." They
remembered the occasion and eventually renamed their group
The Righteous Brothers for their first album.
max
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:39:06 -0500
From: Brian Chidester
Subject: L. A. Record Stores
Tracy Pernell wrote:
> Attention, all Los Angeles-area Spectropoppers:
> I'm making my first trip to Los Angeles in March, and I'm
> asking all those residents and/or those familiar with the
> Greater Los Angeles area to let me know what used CD/
> record stores exist there. Your replies with the street
> address of the stores would be greatly appreciated!
In Pasadena you have Poo-Bah Records and Canterbury Records,
both great stores. For Punk LPs and CDs, Headline Records on
Melrose is a great little place. Not too far from the giant
Amoeba (a must in L.A.). I also like Vinyl Fetish on Cahuenga
quite a lot. Again, same with Headline... with the proximity
to Amoeba, it might get eaten up and forgotten. But there is
always good stuff there that isn't at Amoeba. The Rhino Store
is over on January 21st.
Brian
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:11:50 -0000
From: Jeff
Subject: "From a distance" P F Sloan/Odin's People
Thank you fellow Spectropoppers for identifying this song
for me. I have just heard the P F SLOAN original for the
first time, and I am very moved by the passion of his voice,
and these amazing lyrics. I am continuing my search for the
Odin's People's UK version, which I am sure will prove
equally rewarding.
Jeff
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:09:00 -0000
From: Kurt B.
Subject: Re: Spector box reissue?
Speaking of the Spector box set, my copy came with a small
"Back to Mono" badge...which I quickly lost.
Does anyone know where they sell "Back to Mono" badges?
Kurt B.
Long Beach, CA
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:17:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Randy Poe
Subject: Re: Red Bird Questions
Marc Miller wrote:
> I have 2 questions about Red Bird. I'm listening to the
> 2-CD Charly set that came out in '91 and in the booklet
> they make reference to John Hammond being signed to Tiger
> early on. Did he record for the label? Was anything
> released?
>
> Also, they say that in '90 tapes surfaced while cleaning
> out the NY office some of which contained unreleased
> material. Did any of this ever come out (besides the
> Jelly Beans "In Session" stuff that's on this set)?
Well, to answer the second question first (and there's no
way to tell this story in a single email), I was the one who
found the tapes in the attic of the Brill Building. In late
'88, Leiber & Stoller decided they wanted to move their
headquarters from N.Y. back to L.A. I had been working for
them for 3 years at that time. I asked them if either of them
had anything related to the business in storage anywhere in
New York, since it wouldn't be good to find that out after
we'd moved to California. They both sat and thought about it
for a while, and then Jerry said, "We might've left some
stuff at the Brill Building." (They had separated from their
former business partner, Freddy Bienstock, in 1982.) So, I
called Freddy's office at the Brill Building and was told
there were dozens of boxes belonging to L&S in the attic.
When I went to check out the attic, I discovered over a
hundred boxes of reel-to-reel tape. Many of them were
stacked on top of each other, sitting on metal file cabinets,
pressed up against the building's huge attic windows. When I
opened the first box and realized what it was, I immediately
determined - considering the environment and the length of
time they'd probably been sitting there - that this was
probably the largest collection of blank tape in the world.
(For the folks who might not know, tapes react very badly to
direct sunlight and metal.)
When I started reading the labels on the tape boxes, I
realized I had discovered some serious pop music history:
Dixie Cups, Ad-Libs, Jelly Beans, a tape marked "seagulls"
(yep, from "Remember [Walkin' in the Sand]), and many others.
When we moved to L.A. in March of 1989, all of the boxes
from the Brill Building came with us. To be continued.
Randy
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:54:58 -0000
From: Kurt Benbenek
Subject: Re: L.A. record stores
Tracy Pernell wrote:
> I'm making my first trip to Los Angeles in March, and I'm
> asking all those residents and/or those familiar with the
> Greater Los Angeles area to let me know what used CD/
> record stores exist there. Your replies with the street
> address of the stores would be greatly appreciated!
Tracy,
Though a couple of legendary LA record stores are closing,
here in my hometown (Long Beach...30 minutes from LA) we
have at least 4 decent record stores doing business within
2 miles of each other:
Bagatelle Records
260 Atlantic Ave
Long Beach 90802
(562) 432-7534
Dizzy on Vinyl
3004 E 7th St
Long Beach 90804
(562) 436-8928
Fingerprints Records
4612 E. 2nd St.
Long Beach, 90803
(562) 433-4996
Tape and Record Room
106 3rd Street
Long Beach 90802
(562) 432-7602
Bagatelle Records is an absolute must-visit.
They have lots of rare records on the walls, plus many
hard-to-find R & B and Soul albums, pop 45s and CDs..with
good prices.
Dizzy-on-Vinyl is like a record store from the 70s...
incense always burning and thousands of LPs everywhere...
lots of one dollar albums and hard-to-find Jazz and Soul
LPs and the owner (Dizzy) is open to haggling.
Fingerprints deals mostly with new CDs, Sundazed vinyl
re-issues and some rare LPs.
The Tape and Record Room is a collector's dream store...
lots of music promo material, rare vinyl LPS and some 45s
...plus old music magazines and music video. High prices,
but fun to visit once in a while.
ALSO, if you time your trip right you can attend the OC
Record Meet which is held the 3rd Sunday of every month...
it's quite an experience.
The OC Meet even has special musical guests each month
such as Lou Christie, Fabian, Ron Dante, Tommy Sands, Hank
Ballard, Tommy Roe, Bobby Day, Jan Berry, etc.
UFCW HALL
8530 STANTON AVE.
Buena Park, California
ORANGE COUNTY MONTHLY RECORD SHOW
http://www.asavinyl.com/record_show.htm
AND...if you'd like to tread off the beaten track, Poo Bah
Records in Pasadena and Rockaway Records in LA are worth
checking out.
Poo Bah Records
http://www.poobah.com/
Rockaway Records
http://www.rockaway.com/
Happy shopping...
Kurt Benbenek
Long Beach, CA
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:47:24 -0000
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re: Jean Thomas
Ken Charmer wrote:
> Jean married Ray Fox in 1966. She had worked with Charles
> though previously. I sent her all the Candy Girl tracks but
> she doesn't believe she is on them. We did complete Jean's
> discography and then we put together a CD of her best
> tracks for her.
I was disappointed however to read that Jean isn't on the
Candy Girls tracks. How about the Maddy Hill Columbia 45,
did you ask her about this? And if not these which other
Charles Fox-arranged 45s does she appear on?
As for Ken's request for choosing tracks to post to musica,
hard to beat the one he sent to me: "Your The Root Of My Evil",
a fab production and Jeanie Thomas is in great form on the
vocals.
Martin
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