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There are 9 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. False Endings /Flying Pickets
From: Warren Cosford
2. Re: Keep On Dancing
From: Mikey
3. Re: Little Richard
From: Phil Chapman
4. Re: Stereo - beatles remixes
From: richard hattersley
5. Jacques Morali
From: Leonardo Flores
6. False Endings
From: David Feldman
7. new Yahoo group (Spanish)
From: userow74
8. Keep On Splicing
From: Phil Chapman
9. Lost Simon & Garfunkle....
From: Ken Levine
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:33:31 -0400
From: Warren Cosford
Subject: False Endings /Flying Pickets
Country Paul wrote:
> A little later, but still soft-pop: The Flying Pickets,
> "Only You" was a gorgeous a capella record which I believe
> was a large hit in the UK - and which Dr. Demento played on
> his show in the US. It sure grabbed my ears. Who were they,
> where did they come from and go to, and did they have more
> hits of similar nature?
Very true Country Paul...."Only You" is a wonderful record.
It was also a hit at CHUM Toronto and some other parts of Canada.
I'm told it was a bunch of middle aged guys and a lot of "studio
tricks". An LP was rush recorded when the song hit......but
there's nothing special on it.
False endings? Suspicious Minds was part of Elvis's Las Vegas
Shows before he recorded it. Apparently the false ending was a
stunt they did live but never intended to do on record and in
fact recorded it straight in Nashville. After the session,
Elvis went back to Memphis with the rough mix but called producer
Felton Jarvis the next day to say he wanted to come back and record
it the way they performed in concert with the false ending.
Of course that would mean a lot of extra money. Felton asked Elvis
to give him 24 hours to see if he could splice the effect in the
studio with what they had on tape. He did.
My first false ending? Save My Soul. Jack Scott 1958.
Warren Cosford
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 15:04:00 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Keep On Dancing
Dan Hughes:
> The Gentrys performed that song on the Amateur Hour TV show.
> And I feel sure they came to a stop and then started again
> when they performed on TV - probably before they ever cut the
> song as a record?
Thanks Dan!! Yes, I feel they had that arrangement in the can before
they ever recorded it. I dont think any splicing was done on that
one...doesn't make sense.
thanks for sharing your story!!
Mikey
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 11:55:50 -0000
From: Phil Chapman
Subject: Re: Little Richard
simon white wrote:
> Incidently, I believe we have someone here on list who had an
> involvement in the recording of Richard's Stan Shulman, Tommy
> Boyce and Richard Hartley produced, '77 recorded and '78 released
> version of "Send Me Some Loving" which has Spectoresque overtones.
I thought I'd worked on this, but I had to check the label first!
Stan Shulman owned the track, and wanted it "pop'd up" for a UK
release, so it got sent to Tommy & Richard, who were enjoying a chart
run with Darts. The track has a lazy sax/guitar rhythm feel, which
reminded me of "Why Don't They Let Us Fall In Love", providing a
template for the mix to keep me happy. We added a few fingersnaps,
tambourine, guitar and a slightly incongruous Paris Sisters-style
string line.
But it worked - the record got plenty of radio play. Unfortunately,
LR couldn't be pursuaded to come over to promote it. The BBC even
offered to record a video track at his home, but he declined.
Phil
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:53:47 +0000
From: richard hattersley
Subject: Re: Stereo - beatles remixes
Billy:
>The 80's CD's are showing their age, tape hiss, drop outs, no extra
>liner notes, except for the excellent job on Sgt Peppers and Past
>Masters 1 & 2. Some people like George Martin's remixes of "Help"
>and "Rubber Soul" but I would prefer the original stereo mixes the
>next go-around.
I found the "Help" and "Rubber Soul" remixes pretty pointless.
I could tell little difference between the originals. If they are
gonna do'em again they should make "Rubber Soul" more like the
Yellow Submarine songtrack remixes.
"Rubber Soul" in stereo is like the first two albums which were
recorded on 2 track. I understand the reason that some Beatles
stereo albums are good (HDsN, B4sale, Help, Revolver, white) and
other are bad (rubber soul, sgt pepper) is beacause Martin and
Emerick were experimenting as to what was best.
Although the "good" stereo mixes are superior listening for people
listening in stereo. The other ones sound better for people who for
whatever reason are listening to them reduced to mono due to the
volume increase suffered by instruments in the middle of the stereo
picture.
Whatever the case, even though some prefer mono some prefer the
stereo. With a band as huge as the fabs, both should be available.
Even some of Cliff Richards early sixties releases have had CD
reissues featuring both mixes. COME ON APPLE...GET TO IT!!!!
Richard
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/r.hatts/
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 05:59:31 -0000
From: Leonardo Flores
Subject: Jacques Morali
Hello Friends,
Before his work with the Richie Family and the Village People,
does anybody know if producer Jacques Morali produced, wrote or
was involved with any other groups in Europe or here in the US?
Although his above productions were Disco arrangements, Jacques
Morali certainly knew how to write a killer hook in a song.The
Melodies in songs such as The Woman, Ups and Downs, and Baby I'm
On Fire are just absolutely mesmerising. Just wondering if he ever
applied his songwriting talents in a more traditional pop/rock/soul
group.
Thanks again!
Cheers
Leonardo Flores
PS The 45 Club will have it's second night on Saturday June 22nd
at the Knitting Factory in Hollywood, California. We had a 200+
Soulful turnout on the opening night. Visit our website
http://www.the45club.com for photos of the first night as well
as other information.
Thanks again....again!
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:00:54 -0500
From: David Feldman
Subject: False Endings
> Fake Endings
I don't think anyone has mentioned the Bobby Freeman "Do You
Want To Dance," one of my favorites.
One of the weirder ones, "Clap Your Hands" by the Beau-Marks,
is notable for at least one reason. It's the only fake ending
that I can think of that is addressed directly in the lyrics.
The silence is broken by the spoken: "Don't go away!"
Anyone know anything about the Beau-Marks?
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 14:11:15 -0000
From: userow74
Subject: new Yahoo group (Spanish)
This my new Psycho Group, with sounds
http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/extracto_de_pollo_en_lata/
60'S MUSIC FOR THE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:19:42 -0000
From: Phil Chapman
Subject: Keep On Splicing
Mikey:
> Yes, I feel they had that arrangement in the can before
> they ever recorded it. I don't think any splicing was done
> on that one...doesn't make sense.
They probably did have that arrangement in the can, and then
recorded it that way, only to find it wasn't long enough for
a single.
I looked at the track in a sound editor this afternoon, and
overlaid the restart from 1:31 on top of the beginning, and
it phased perfectly. So it is definitely a splice job. You
can hear the the vocal 'pop' on the word "keep" immediately
after the opening drum roll, and the 'uh' during the kick break
are identical in the restart section.
They seem to be fond of this method of recording....Their version
of "Everyday I Have To Cry" has a very suspect modulation:-)
Actually, "Keep On Dancing" makes me wince slightly - It sounds
like a kiddies version of "Twist And Shout"/"Do You Love Me" with
minor lyric changes - all that "dancin' and a prancin'". My opinion
is probably coloured by the experience of working on the 70s UK
Jonathan King produced version by The Bay City Rollers.
Who did record the original version of this song?
Phil
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 10:20:38 -0700
From: Ken Levine
Subject: Lost Simon & Garfunkle....
ASSOCIATED PRESS...
--Simon & Garfunkel never released a live album when they were
recording together, but fans of the group know about a state of
the art recording from a 1967 Philharmonic Hall concert. The
recording will finally be released next month on Columbia/Legacy.
"Live From New York City 1967" documents a show from Jan. 22, 1967,
at Philharmonic Hall in New York City's Lincoln Center. The
performance epitomized the folk music era of the 1960's that was
about to disappear when the set was recorded. Liner notes are by
New York Times writer and Rolling Stone contributor Anthony DeCurtis.
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