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Spectropop - Digest Number 583
- From: Spectropop Group
- Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002
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There are 20 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: The Actionettes
From: Elisabeth
2. Re: Nobody Knows What's Goin' On (In Brute Force's Mind But Him!)
From: Freya
3. Re: Gold Star Acetate Found - Chuck Barris Syndicate
From: Mikey
4. Music for people and Music Money stuff.
From: Freya
5. Modern songs with a spector sound
From: Freya
6. The Breakaways
From: Jon
7. RE: Gold Star Acetate Found - Chuck Barris Syndicate
From: gregg luvoxx
8. Re: Gold Star Acetate Found - Chuck Barris Syndicate
From: Phil Milstein
9. Re: The Poppy Family
From: David Parkinson
10. Be My Baby - The Play
From: Roger Hollier
11. Chuck Barris--What a Clown!
From: Dan Hughes
12. Re: Nobody Knows What's Goin' On (In Brute Force's Mind But Him!)
From: Dan Hughes
13. Re: Nobody Knows What's Goin' On (In Brute Force's Mind But Him!)
From: Phil Milstein
14. QUICKSILVER MESSENGER SERVICE: BEARS (ROGER PERKINS)
From: Matthew Kaplan
15. Re: Gold Star Acetate Found - Chuck Barris Syndicate
From: Phil Milstein
16. Re: S.N. & the CT's. (was WIBG)
From: Roger K
17. SPCLG?
From: Dan Hughes
18. Re: Gold Star Acetate Found - Chuck Barris Syndicate
From: gregg luvoxx
19. Re: Quicksilver Messenger Service / Roger Perkins
From: Doug
20. Ronnie on Fresh Air
From: Paul Woods
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 12:56:47 -0000
From: Elisabeth
Subject: Re: The Actionettes
> Just a final reminder to all of you who missed the Spectropop
> Party that there's another chance to catch the Actionettes at
> their show on Saturday 31st of August, Upstairs at the Garage,
> Highbury Corner, London Nsomething. (Islington Tube Station is
> pretty much directly opposite). It's the gals' summer special
> featuring some of their favourite dance routines, special guests
> and DJs. More info as always on: http://www.actionettes.com
And just to add, I'm very excited to say that Delia has asked
me to do a reprise of "Be my Baby" with the Actionettes on the
night.
I'm just over the moon to have the chance to groove again with
the most stylin' gang of mademoiselles.
Hope to see lots of you there! (this time, I'm gonna persuade
Mick to dance with me!)
Elisabeth x
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 12:26:54 -0000
From: Freya
Subject: Re: Nobody Knows What's Goin' On (In Brute Force's Mind But Him!)
kind of suprised to see Mr Force mentioned on here! I discovered
Mr Force on some strange website where you could download a BF
album and also stuff by shooby the human horn! I've never been
able to find the website again but seem to think it had some
strange connection with the bran flakes who in turn have some
kind of connection with Brian Wilson???
Anyway even more shocked to go to the website and see mention of a
gig in Birmingham! Now I feel sure this must be Birmingham, Alabama
except that I have a strange idea from somewhere, that what was
formerly called the Hummingbird might now be called the Academy?
I find the idea that he might have played in Brum really bizzare!
I mean he didn't play London but played Birmingham???!!!
OK, some of you are probably laughing at me now for even thinking
such a thing, but I'd really like someone to confirm it isn't true
as it kind of hurts my head at the thought of such a thing!
love
Freya
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:53:58 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Gold Star Acetate Found - Chuck Barris Syndicate
Leonardo Flores:
> I find a yellow and Black "Gold Star" Acetate by a group
> called the Chuck Barris Syndicate. The song is called "Baja
> California" with a B-side song with an unknown title.
Leonardo, Chuck Barris was a famous guy in television.
He created "The Newlywed Game", "The Dating Game" and
"The Gong Show", of which he was host.
He also wrote "Palisades Park" for singer Freddy Cannon,
which went to number 4 on the national charts.
He ALSO was a CIA agent for some time.
So, that's a great find you have there.
Will you play it to musica?
Mikey
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:41:10 -0000
From: Freya
Subject: Music for people and Music Money stuff.
Stephanie Campbell wrote:
> To John Lester:
> I had no idea you were on the Spectropop list!!! Man you
> really get around!! If I was in England I would have come
> to the party there. Oh well, I will definitely be in the one
> in NY. And by the way, no offense to anyone on the list, but
> I can't stand the Poppy Family, although I can tolerate....
*giggle* !!! Well that's the wonderful thing about there being
such a diversity of music out there! To go with the diversity of
people! Some music just wasn't meant for some people. You just
have to hope that the right music, reaches the right people who
need it, somehow!
That's the way it should be. Sometimes I think that Bad music is
an oxymoron but then I hear the title music to that new Star Trek
thing...
> "Seasons In The Sun". It's "Which Way You Goin Billy" that
> I don't like!!!! Susan has a nice voice though. I read in some
> book that "Seasons In The Sun" made so much money for Terry Jacks
> that he could retire and didn't have to work again.
That sounds sooooooooooooo unlikely! I mean if he didn't write
the song then he presumably won't make jack (groan) off the
publishing and nobody makes money off record sales! (well apart
from big record companies!) Maybe there is some other way he could
make money from it tho? I guess you must still be able to make
money from your actual recording being reproduced on the air???,
as opposed to the performance of a song? Perhaps this explains
the difference between the PPL and the PRS? Anybody know about
these things?
It makes me curious now! :)
love
Freya
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:55:12 -0000
From: Freya
Subject: Modern songs with a spector sound
I've not heard this new McAlmont/Butler song yet, but I've
often wondered about a song I heard by a band called Vellocette.
They were some kind of offshoot of comet gain, and they had this
single that was just incredible, called "Get Yourself Together?
It had the most Spector-like production I had ever heard and the
song was preety amazing too! And then they released the album,
with a new version of the song and no Spector sound to be heard
anywhere. It sounded a lot more bland in fact, production wise:(
I've heard there is a demo version of Bitterscene out there, one
of the better songs on the album and I often wonder if that has
more of a Spector sound!
Sadly I only have the cd not the original 7 inch:(
Does anyone have this record who might confirm my story?
love
Freya
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:02:21 -0000
From: Jon
Subject: The Breakaways
Does anyone out there know if there's a CD of The Breakaways?
They're one of my favorite girl groups. I occasionally see a
compilation CD with ONE song on, but nothing more. Boy, was I
suprised to eventually learn they were from England! "That How
It Goes" sounds like The Wall of Sound! I found a web page for
Vicki Brown who was in the group (she's now deceased), but nothing
was mentioned for sale of the Breakaways. I believe she has solo
things available in the UK. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, Jon
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:07:16 -0700
From: gregg luvoxx
Subject: RE: Gold Star Acetate Found - Chuck Barris Syndicate
Leonardo Flores:
> I was digging around at my friends record shop this evening
> and lo and behold I find a yellow and Black "Gold Star"
> acetate by a group called the Chuck Barris Syndicate.
That would be Gong Show host and CIA operative Chuck Barris.
He composed many of the themes to the game shows he produced
incl. The Newlywed Game. Chuck also penned the song Palisades
Park, which was taken to the top of the charts by none other
than Freddy Boom Boom Cannon. Watch for the George Clooney-
directed bio-pic on Chuck based on his autobiography
"Confessions Of A Dangerous Mind" which will be released in
November.
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:07:25 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Gold Star Acetate Found - Chuck Barris Syndicate
Leonardo Flores wrote:
> I was digging around at my friends record shop this evening and low
> and behold I find a yellow and Black "Gold Star" Acetate by a group
> called the Chuck Barris Syndicate. The song is called "Baja
> California" with a B-side song with an unknown title.
The title certainly has a Herb Alpert flavor to it, and Barris,
as producer of The Dating Game, gave Alpert's music a huge boost
by using his "Tijuana Taxi" (I think it was) as that show's theme.
So my speculation is that the Chuck Barris Syndicate may have been
comprised of members of Alpert's band. The use of Gold Star would
help support that theory. Barris himself was also a songwriter,
with Freddy Cannon's "Palisades Park" his most famous credit.
--Phil Milstein
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:11:08 -0700
From: David Parkinson
Subject: Re: The Poppy Family
Speaking of the Poppy Family (yet again), does anyone know
what ever happened to the sessions that Terry Jacks produced
with the Beach Boys in the 1970s? I don't have my copy of
Bubblegum Is The Naked Truth here at work (fancy that), so
maybe the answer is there... but did anything ever get recorded?
Should we expect ever to hear those sessions?
David
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 12:39:40 EDT
From: Roger Hollier
Subject: Be My Baby - The Play
Hi Spectropoppers
For those in the UK you may be interested in a play that is on
tour. It's called "Be My Baby", and will be showing at the
Nottingham Playhouse 25-28 Sept.
"It's 1964 and nineteen-year-old Mary is living in a mother and
baby home, unmarried and seven months pregnant. Along with her
new friends she has to cope with putting her baby up for adoption
whether she likes it or not. Despite this, the girls' youthful
effervescence can't help breaking through as they sing along to
the Ronettes, Shangri-Las,Shirelles and other girl-groups of the
period and Phil Spector classics. Soho Theatre has established
itself as one of the coolist London venues (Time Out). This is
the company's first national tour. Amanda Whittington is one of
Nottingham's leading playwrights and author of Player's Angels
and Stand Up Cherry Pie"
One to look out for in case it's playing in your area.
You could try
http://www.nottinghamplayhouse.co.uk for further info.
Roger
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:52:39 -0500
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Chuck Barris--What a Clown!
Chuck wrote an "autobiography" in which he alternated chapters
about his show biz career with chapters about his CIA career.
But the CIA stuff was just more Chuck Barris buffoonery.
In the book, he claimed to have had the code name "Sunny Sixkiller"
and he was a CIA assassin who made his hits while chaperoning
Dating Game winners. As idiotic as this sounds, some readers
believed it and spread the word to others who didn't read the
book, who swallowed it without question.
As he said in an interview with Connie Chung, "I once applied
for the CIA and while I was going through the process I went
off to do TV. But I often wondered what would have happened
had I done both."
Thus resulted the book. Half of which was true (the show biz
part); the other half (the CIA story) was pure balderdash.
---Dan
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:56:08 -0500
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Re: Nobody Knows What's Goin' On (In Brute Force's Mind But Him!)
Freya, here are several sites that contain both Brute Force
and Shooby - hope one of them is the one you're seeking....
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=shooby+brute+force
---Dan
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:07:00 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Nobody Knows What's Goin' On (In Brute Force's Mind But Him!)
Freya wrote:
> kind of suprised to see Mr Force mentioned on here! I discovered
> Mr Force on some strange website where you could download a BF
> album and also stuff by shooby the human horn! I've never been
> able to find the website again but seem to think it had some
> strange connection with the bran flakes who in turn have some
> kind of connection with Brian Wilson???
The site you describe sounds like the Interstellar Cafe, hosted
by Otis F. Odder:
http://www.interstellarcafe.com/audioarchives/
--Phil Milstein
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 18:21:03 EDT
From: Matthew Kaplan
Subject: QUICKSILVER MESSENGER SERVICE: BEARS (ROGER PERKINS)
I am desperately trying to track down a scan for the
Quicksilver Messenger Service single entitled "Bears"
from 1968 (Capitol 2320, flipside "Stand By Me"), it
was their second single and at the time it never appeared
on any of their releases.
I need this for a project that I am working on and more
particularly I'm looking for the publishing information
for this song which was written by a very obscure Bay Area
folk artist by the name of Roger Perkins. Even more specifically,
I'm trying to track down Roger Perkins himself and I've hit a
brick wall.
If anybody can help me I would really appreciate it.
Matthew Kaplan
PS: Sorry for the double post on multiple lists
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:04:32 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Gold Star Acetate Found - Chuck Barris Syndicate
gregg luvoxx wrote:
> That would be Gong Show host and CIA operative Chuck Barris.
> He composed many of the themes to the game shows he produced
> incl. The Newlywed Game. Chuck also penned the song Palisades
> Park, which was taken to the top of the charts by none other
> than Freddy Boom Boom Cannon. Watch for the George Clooney-
> directed bio-pic on Chuck based on his autobiography
> "Confessions Of A Dangerous Mind" which will be released in
> November.
Barris wrote extensively about the "CIA operative" phase of
his' career in his first autobiography - the one the upcoming
movie will be based on - then discredited it in his second as
pure fiction, composed only for his own amusement. The cat is
an original, to say the least.
--Phil Milstein
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 21:20:56 -0000
From: Roger K
Subject: Re: S.N. & the CT's. (was WIBG)
Billy,
Thanks for playing the track to Musica, good stuff. If
anyone has Stark Naked And The Car Thieves' follow up - "Look
Back in Love (Not in Anger)" I'd love to hear that one too.
I don't think it has been comped anywhere yet, somebody please
correct me if I'm wrong. The Yachts' covered that one around
1979, and once I found out it wasn't an original, I've been
curious as to where how they discovered such an obscurity.
Teddy & the Panda's also covered it on their "Basic Magnetism"
LP. Any other cover versions?
Roger K.
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:34:46 -0500
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: SPCLG?
This is a repost from several months ago, which received no
response at all. Maybe somebody will come through this time....
A song called "SPCLG" (Society for the Prevention of Cruelty
to Little Girls) was a hit in Indianapolis (my hometown) in
the early 60's. A wonderful record, sounded Motown to me but
was actually on VeeJay.
What can you tell me about this group?
Thanks,
---Dan
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:41:15 -0700
From: gregg luvoxx
Subject: Re: Gold Star Acetate Found - Chuck Barris Syndicate
Phil Milstein:
> Barris wrote extensively about the "CIA operative" phase of
> his' career in his first autobiography - the one the upcoming
> movie will be based on - then discredited it in his second as
> pure fiction, composed only for his own amusement. The cat is
> an original, to say the least.
Oh I know.
BTW, Phil, I have your LP "The Mathematical Genius Of Pep Lester"
around here somewhere. Sometimes I find myself humming "All Pep
Lester's Parties". Nice to see you here at Spectropop.
luv
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:56:56 -0000
From: Doug
Subject: Re: Quicksilver Messenger Service / Roger Perkins
Matthew Kaplan wrote:
> I am desperately trying to track down a scan for the
> Quicksilver Messenger Service single entitled "Bears"
> from 1968 (Capitol 2320, flipside "Stand By Me"), it
> was their second single and at the time it never appeared
> on any of their releases. I need this for a project that
> am working on and more particularly I'm looking for the
> publishing information for this song which was written by
> a very obscure Bay Area folk artist by the name of Roger
> Perkins. Even more specifically, I'm trying to track down
> Roger Perkins himself and I've hit a brick wall.
Matt,
I don't have access to a scanner right at the present moment, but I
can give you the publishing info: "Quicksilver Music BMI" is what is
listed on the label.
Hope that helps.
Doug
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 10:31:28 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: Paul Woods
Subject: Ronnie on Fresh Air
I just spotted that Ronnie Spector and Hal Blaine were on the
US radio show Fresh Air on August 27th. Fortunately the show
is archived at:
http://freshair.npr.org/dayFA.cfm?todayDate=archive
...so it doesn't matter that I couldn't pick up the broadcast
here in Bristol, England. 8-)
Best,
Paul Woods
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