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Spectropop - Digest Number 623
- From: Spectropop Group
- Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002
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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Mark Wirtz Anthology
From: Mark Frumento
2. Re: Stranger on the Shore
From: Richard Tearle
3. Re: Mason Williams
From: Dan Hughes
4. Re: Instrumental Hits
From: Mark Tilley
5. love is blue x two
From: john rausch
6. Other 60s instrumental stand-outs
From: Justin McDevitt
7. Re: Garage rock classics
From: Jan Kristen Kristensen
8. Re: Mason Williams
From: Paul Underwood
9. Re: Stranger on the Shore
From: Frank
10. Instrumental favourites
From: Richard Williams
11. Garage rock classics
From: Davie Gordon
12. Instrumental Poll
From: Richard Tearle
13. Garage Rock Classics
From: Mike Dugo
14. Re: Garage rock classics
From: Dan Hughes
15. Instrumentals and Harmony Grass
From: Kingsley Abbott
16. The Liquid Room 10/06/02
From: David Ponak
17. Re: Garage Rock Classics / Mason Williams
From: Richard Tearle
18. Re: Brand New Cadillac / Soulful Strut / Am I The Same Girl
From: James Botticelli
19. Re: Garage Rock classics repertoire
From: Neil Hever
20. Re: 60 instrumentals
From: Alan Gordon
21. Cake/Rose Garden
From: Jim Dawson
22. Re: Instrumentals
From: Bob Rashkow
23. Re: Brand New Cadillac
From: Jan Kristensen
24. Re: garage repertoire
From: Freeman Carmack
25. Re: Mason Williams film
From: James F. Cassidy
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 20:51:49 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Mark Wirtz Anthology
I haven't been able to write back personally to each
and everyone who enquired, so here's the low down on
the Mark Wirtz set:
The CDR compilation is 4 CDs in one case covering
Mark's career from 1963 to 1982 with a couple of
"newer" surprises and an interesting hidden track.
The set is limited to 300 copies.
I'd like to think that it's at least semi-professional
looking but anyone who is unsure about obtaining the
set may want to wait until someone posts a review -
(glowing comments are most welcome, LOL!).
If you are interested please contact me off-list
or visit http://markwirtz0.tripod.com
Thanks to the many Spectropoppers who were so supportive
with comments, advice and general encouragement. The set
is definitely done with "Spectropop types" in mind...
right down to the take off on the Ember Records 45 label.
Mark
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 22:58:21 -0000
From: Richard Tearle
Subject: Re: Stranger on the Shore
Ian Chippett wrote:
> An underrated melody despite the huge commercial success:
> did Acker write anything else? The talent was obviously there.
I would disagree that Stranger on the Shore started
Acker Bilk's career - he had been leader of a trad jazz
band for some years, though for the life of me I can't
remember any of his records prior to Stranger (I know
there were some, I just can't think off the top of my
head! - 'Somerset' was one and maybe 'I like a nice cuppa
tea'!). Certainly Stranger was his first and biggest hit
(it would be anybody's biggest hit I think!). It was the
theme tune for a childrens TV series of the same name, so
it got an awful lot of airplay both on TV and radio. It
does now figure in our second poll: if I can think of a
way to cut and paste the results to a file, with Spectropop's
permission, I will post the entries in the Files section -
but don't hold your breath too long!
Cheers
Richard
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 18:25:49 -0500
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Re: Mason Williams
Harvey asks of the current whereabouts and whatabouts of
Mason Williams. Here ya go:
http://www.masonwilliams-online.com/
Yer welcome.
---Dan
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 16:36:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mark Tilley
Subject: Re: Instrumental Hits
How about these two gems..."Our Winter Love"
and Raymond Lefevre's "Soul Coaxing"?
M.Tilley
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 20:09:27 -0400
From: john rausch
Subject: love is blue x two
Have to jump in the instrumental thread here, I have two
different versions of "Love Is Blue", I am assuming one
is the 45 edit and the other is the LP version? There is
definitely adifference in versions, one is melodic and the
other is more "rockin" for lack of a better term. I have
these in mp3 so have no actual info, can anyone help?
Also have to put my two cents in here, my fave inst. is
the wonderful "Soulful Strut", and still to this day,
I have never heard the female vocal version. Is it the
same backing track with vocal overdub or a completely
different recording?
John Rausch
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 23:58:37 -0500
From: Justin McDevitt
Subject: Other 60s instrumental stand-outs
Hello Spectropop members,
Before this thread fades into the Spectropop sunset,
(if it hasn't already), I want to give recognition to
some of my favorite instrumental tracks from the 60s,
the majority of which would fall within the pop genre.
Here they are!
1. Cast Your Fate To The Wind: Vince Giraldi
2. Down At Washington Square: The Village Stompers
3. Because They're Young: Duane Eddy
4. Fly Me To The Moon: Joe Harnell
5. Walk Don't Run: The Ventures (original 1960 version)
6. Slaughter On Tenth Avenue: The Ventures
7. Theme from The Magnificent Seven: (also the Marlboro Theme)
Al Caiola
8. The Disadvantages of You: Brass Ring
9. Theme from Flight Of The Phoenix: The Brass Ring
10. Soul Coaxing: Raymond Lefevre
Justin McDevitt
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 07:39:45 +0200
From: Jan Kristen Kristensen
Subject: Re: Garage rock classics
Dan Hughes:
> Speaking of which, what are some of the songs that were
> in the repertoire of every neighborhood rock group?
The numero uno song every Scandinavian garage band
should know apart from "Louie Louie" and "Gloria" was
"Brand New Cadillac".
Jan K
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 09:11:17 +0200
From: Paul Underwood
Subject: Re: Mason Williams
Harvey Williams wrote (concerning Mason Williams):
> But why was his
> career so -apparently- short? He crammed all that work
> (music, tv & conceptual art pieces) into a couple of years
> on the 60s-70s cusp, yet what has he done since? Not a
> rhetorical question, by the way, I'd genuinely be keen to
> find out.
Hi Harvey,
Check out the following websites for news of Mason Williams
who seems to have remained very active:
http://www.classicalgas.com/home.html
http://www.masonwilliams-online.com
One interesting bit of information: the drummer at his
live shows is likely to be Hal Blaine. And the list of
sessionmen on his first, excellent, album (Phonograph
Record) featured names like Larry Knechtel, Jim Gordon,
Lyle Ritz, Gene Estes, James Burton etc etc.
Paul
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 09:25:07 +0200
From: Frank
Subject: Re: Stranger on the Shore
De : Ian Chippett:
> An underrated melody despite the huge commercial success:
> did Acker write anything else? The talent was obviously there.
Acker Bilk wrote lots of tunes and since we're on "Stranger
On The Shore" one fabulous other theme he wrote was on the
English B-side of this huge hit, it was called "Summer Set".
A tune which has been regularly forgotten on all the many
greatest hits compilations released over the years.
Frank
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 09:16:00 +0100
From: Richard Williams
Subject: Instrumental favourites
Nice thread, but missing the obvious winner: Booker T and
the MGs' "Green Onions", in itself the sound of the Sixties.
The remainder of my top five would be:
Earl Van Dyke and the Soul Brothers: "All For You"
Jimmy McGriff: "The Last Minute"
Big John Patton: "The Silver Meter"
The Fendermen: "Beach Party"
Duane Eddy: "3.30 Blues"
Richard Williams
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:23:47 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Garage rock classics
Dan Hughes wrote:
> Speaking of which, what are some of the songs that were in
> the repertoire of every neighborhood rock group? Howsabout
> Gloria as Number One? And Turn On Your Lovelight and
> Satisfaction and Louie Louie.... what are some others?
How about "Hey Joe" and "I Can Only Give You Everything"?
Then there's umpteen garage versions of "In The Midnight Hour",
"Louie Louie" and variations of it
Davie Gordon
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 14:04:17 -0000
From: Richard Tearle
Subject: Instrumental Poll
Following a suggestion, I have posted the entries of our 2
polls in the Files section of this group, the 2nd Poll of
which is still open. I should stress that we are not a large
group (at least, by Spectropop's standards!) and neither are
the results definitive - I hope you enjoy reading them.
Thanks once again for the interest displayed - it's been
great fun!
Cheers
Richard
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:17:34 -0500
From: Mike Dugo
Subject: Garage Rock Classics
> Speaking of which, what are some of the songs that were in
> the repertoire of every neighborhood rock group? Howsabout
> Gloria as Number One? And Turn On Your Lovelight and
> Satisfaction and Louie Louie.... what are some others?
Well...
"Gloria" and "Louie Louie" for sure! Not so much "Satisfaction",
though. Probably "The Last Time" would be the most covered
Stones' tune. Another song covered by every garage rock band
would have to be "Hey Joe"...
Mike Dugo
60sgaragebands.com
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:26:16 -0500
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Re: Garage rock classics
Hi Jan,
I've never heard of Brand New Cadillac! It did not make the
charts in the USA. Who did it originally?
Dan
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 21:05:44 +0100
From: Kingsley Abbott
Subject: Instrumentals and Harmony Grass
Much as I love/loved Acker Bilk's "Stranger On The Shore" at
the time, along with some of the other instros that have been
mentioned, the choices covered thus far are not amongst the
most exciting available to us. Does anyone else recall "Hot Rod"
by Lou Berry or "Shot Rod" by Conny & The Bellhops? Now there
were a couple of real stonkers!!
Someone also asked about Harmony Grass...
They grew out of Tony Rivers & The Castaways after a long series
of quality singles had failed to give the group a hit. HG made
NME No 22 in Feb 1969 with "Move In A Little Closer" but failed
to capitalise on this first hit despite some very fine records.
Tony Rivers is still going strong (I saw the old rogue doing a
solo set at the London Beach Boys Convention two weeks ago)
- other main singer Kenny Rowe went from HG to Capability Brown
where he cut some more interesting harmony/progressive crossover
stuff. Any 'poppers needing more details will have to bribe me
to photocopy the various CD notes I have written on them in the
past. Better still, seek out the series of fine reissues
on the RPM label and get the music too!
Kingsley Abbott
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:17:49 -0400
From: David Ponak
Subject: The Liquid Room 10/06/02
The Liquid Room, (usually) hosted by David Ponak (me), airs
every Saturday night from Midnight to 3AM (PDT) on 90.7FM KPFK
Los Angeles, as well as streaming at http://kpfk.org
A quick reminder for Los Angeles Liquid Roomers...be sure to
check out Mello Cads, Linus Of Hollywood, The Sugarplastic and
Spookey Ruben Tuesday October 8 at the Derby.
(4500 Los Feliz Blvd @ Hilhurst.) Show starts at 9:15.
The Liquid Room 10/06/02:
1.The Association/Come On In
Birthday (WB)
2.The Polyphonic Spree/Sun
The Beginning Stages Of The Polyphonic Spree (Good)
3.Nino Tempo & April Stevens/You'll Be Needing Me Baby
All Strung Out (Varese)
4.Spookey Ruben/Overkills
Breakfast (Hi-Hat)
5.Uminski/A Ville
Uminksi (East/West-France)
6.Blue States/Season Song
Man Mountain (ESL)
7.Akiko Nakamura/La La La
60's Cutie Pop Collection-Suki Suki Edit (King-Japan)
8.Tahiti 80/Wallpaper For The Soul
Wallpaper For The Soul (Minty Fresh)
Spookey Ruben Live In Studio
9.Glenn, Take Care
10.Leave The City
11.Spookey Ruben/Born On Labor Day
Breakfast (Hi-Hat)
12.Linus Of Hollywood/When I Get To California
Your Favorite Record (Franklin Castle)
13.Mello Cads/Loveland
Soft As A Rock (Franklin Castle)
14.The Sugarplastic/Talk Back
Resin (Air Mail Recordings-Japan)
15.Entre Rios/Decime
Idioma Suave (Elefant-Spain)
16.Stevie Wonder/You Haven't Done Nothin'
Fulfillingness First Finale (Motown)
17.DJ Me DJ You/Nancy Lynn Kenessey
Can You See The Music (Eenie Meenie)
18.Jan & Dean/Vegetables
The Brian Wilson Productions (Toshiba EMI-Japan)
19.Elvis Costello & The Imposters/Smile
Cruel Smile (IDJ)
20.The Hollies with Peter Sellers/After The Fox
After The Fox (soundtrack) (Ryko)
21.Fischerspooner/The 15th
#1 (Capitol)
22.Paul McCartney/Temporary Secretary
McCartney 2 (EMI)
23.Squarepusher/Do You Know Squarepusher
Do You Know Squarepusher (Warp)
24.The United States Of America/Love Song For The Dead Che
The United States Of America (CBS)
25.Paul Weller/Who Brings Joy
Illumination (Independiente)
26.John Sebastion/I Had A Dream
John Sebastion (Reprise)
27.Irving/End Of The Century
Good Morning Beautiful (Eenie Meenie)
28.Claudine Longet/Let's Spend The Night Together
Let's Spend The Night Together (Barnaby)
29.Cubismo Grafico/In Your Face
Untitled (Escalator-Japan)
30.Sketch Show/Theme From A Summer Place
Audio Sponge (Daisy World-Japan)
31.Tipsy/Schatzi A Go Go (Matmos Remix)
Tipsy Remix Party (Asphodel)
32.Bee Gees/Every Christian Lion Hearted Man Will Show You
Bee Gees 1st (Polydor)
33.The Cymbals/Radiation Vibration
Sine (JVC Victor-Japan)
34.The Polyphonic Spree/Soldier Girl (2002 Album Version)
Single (Fierce Panda-UK)
35.The Polyphonic Spree/Track 7 (Hanging Around Again)
The Beginning Stages Of The Polyphonic Spree (Good)
37.Roy Budd/Main Theme-Carter Takes A Train
Get Carter (soundtrack) (Castle-UK)
38.They Might Be Giants/Fingertips
Dial A Song-20 Years Of TMBG (Rhino)
39.Gypsophile Vs. Shop/Your Garden Party
deux musicians en crise (Radio Khartoum)
40.Donovan/West Indian Lady
The Hurdy Gurdy Man (Epic)
41.The Negro Problem/Watering Hole
Welcome Black (Smile)
42.The Rolling Stones/I'd Much Rather Be With The Boys
Metamorphosis (Abkco)
43.Juana Molina/Salves Quien Queda
Tres Cosas (JM)
44.Ennio Morricone/Sospiri Da Una Radio Lontana
More Mondo Morricone (Colosseum-Italy)
45.Paul Williams/Mornin' I'll Be Movin' On
Someday Man (Reprise)
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 18:33:26 -0000
From: Richard Tearle
Subject: Re: Garage Rock Classics / Mason Williams
Previously:
> ...what are some of the songs that were in the repertoire of every
> neighborhood rock group?...
Mike Dugo:
> Well..."Gloria" and "Louie Louie" for sure! Not so much
> "Satisfaction", though. Probably "The Last Time" would be the most
> covered Stones' tune. Another song covered by every garage rock
> band would have to be "Hey Joe"...
What a great idea! It depends what era (and country!) you're talking
about, but definitely Louie Louie and Gloria. The Stones numbers we
used to practice were I wanna be your Man as well as The Last Time
and Little Red Rooster, Needles & Pins (Searchers) whatever was on
the latest Beatles Album(our singer was a Beatles fan!!), his Latest
Flame, Johnny B Goode, Summertime Blues and a whole host of similar
stuff I can't remember!
Those of you who have been following the Mason Williams thread may be
interested in the following links:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/YoYoSmoBro
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/westtexasbluegrasscentral
Neither of these are my groups and I am not (yet) a member of either
of them. I am informed that Mason Williams is featured in the second
group as well as, quite obviously, the first.
Thanks
Richard
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 14:42:48 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Brand New Cadillac / Soulful Strut / Am I The Same Girl
John Rausch wrote:
> Also have to put my two cents in here, my fave inst. is
> the wonderful "Soulful Strut", and still to this day,
> I have never heard the female vocal version. Is it the
> same backing track with vocal overdub or a completely
> different recording?
Having done a comparison with Barbara Acklin's "Am I The Same Girl"
I believe the instrumental to be one and the same....
Dan Hughes wrote:
> I've never heard of Brand New Cadillac! It did not make the
> charts in the USA. Who did it originally?
Vince Taylor and the Playboys. 1958 I think...I never knew it either
until the Clash covered it in the late 7T's (best thing they ever did
IMHO). Shortly thereafter a compilation came out with the original on
it which I promptly snatched up. Long gone now, but a truly great song
if ever there was one in that realm. Rifffffffs!
Jimmy Botticelli
Taking The E-Z...Way Out!
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 20:16:07 -0000
From: Neil Hever
Subject: Re: Garage Rock classics repertoire
A garage band in the New York metro area HAD to perform "Good lovin'"
by the Young Rascals if they wanted to escape with their lives! OK,
maybe they wouldn't get beaten up but it was popular. British
Invasion material was quite the necessity up until '68 or so. The
Animals, The Kinks, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones were the dominant
bands. I recall a garage band in Orange New Jersey playing the
Animals version of "House of the rising sun" over and over again. It
was one of the few songs they knew really well. Certainly, The Kinks
were enormously popular as well. You must include "You really got
me", "All day and all of the night" in any garage rock play list.
The Kinks may have easily been one of the most covered bands during
that time.
Cheers,
Neil Hever
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 13:38:59 -0700
From: Alan Gordon
Subject: Re: 60 instrumentals
Fave instrumentals? Moonglow and Love Theme from "Picnic" (long version).
I probably hated that as a young hippie punk... but i love it now.
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 20:55:28 -0000
From: Jim Dawson
Subject: Cake/Rose Garden
(From the Spectropop Public Bulletin Board)
I was just reading the comments about the '60s studio group
Cake, produced by those wacky scam artists, Charles Greene
and Brian Stone. The story I once heard here in Los Angeles
(maybe from Stan Ross, Kim Fowley or Dave Gold) was that the
boys were so hot, thanks to their hits with Buffalo Springfield,
the Rose Garden and the Iron Butterfly, that they sold Decca an
album based simply on a piece of art showing the profiles of
three or four women. Once Decca okayed the deal, Greene & Stone
put together some girls and recorded the album. It was like the
old indie filmmakers who first came up with lurid movie posters,
then used them to get financing for the actual film. As for the
group Rose Garden, lead singer Diana di Rose was a year behind
me in high school in Parkersburg, West Virginia, and I knew her
slightly. I was told recently that she died a long time ago.
Does anybody know what happened to her?
Jim Dawson
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 17:17:29 -0400
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: Instrumentals
Favorite non-hit instrumental of the 6Ts (thus far): Space Walker - The
Time Zone-on White Whale recorded in 1968.
Favorite HIT instrumental: Out Of Limits, The Marketts.
Love ALL surfing instrumentals, anything by Booker T. Telstar by the
Tornadoes has been giving me the shivers for years. Special place in my
heart for Love Is Blue, still spin the 45 I bought of it in March '68--
also love SOULFUL STRUT but was chagrined when it was remade a few years
ago (are those the lyrics Barbara Acklin sings on her Brunswick record?
BTW that isn't HER on the 90s version is it? If it is then I'm not quite
so chagrined.) Re CLASSICAL GAS, has anyone ever heard "Rupert's Travels"
by the amazing UK group GUN (Adrian Curtis et al)? My favorite
instrumental period: Rob One, from Curved Air's astonishing and heavy,
heavy, HEAVY 1970 debut album.....
Regards,
Bobster
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 23:15:39 +0200
From: Jan Kristensen
Subject: Re: Brand New Cadillac
Dan:
> I've never heard of Brand New Cadillac! It did not make the
> charts in the USA. Who did it originally?
I believe that Vince Taylor had the original, but to any Scandinavian
the ultimate version was with The Hep Stars with Benny Anderson, the
future ABBA member, at the keyboard. Funny enough the singer of The
Hep Stars Sven Hedlund, married Charlotte Butler one of the original
Sherrys of Pop Pop Pie. They later recorded as a duo Sven & Lotta.
Jan K
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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 17:30:49 -0400
From: Freeman Carmack
Subject: Re: garage repertoire
I remember every garage band having to play a version of "I've Got a
Line on You" by Spirit, "Stepping Stone" was another - more proto-punk
than the Monkee's version, as well as "96 Tears" and "Hey Joe".
Later, "In-a-Gada-da-Vida" was a big fav, both for the drummer
and the guy with the Vox Jaguar to show off (that was me - I
sure wish I still had that old combo organ).
Freeman Carmack
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 17:54:11 -0400
From: James F. Cassidy
Subject: Re: Mason Williams film
If I remember correctly, there was at least one other film done in
this style (famous images flashing/animating across the screen at a
fast clip, accompanied by music). Another one was called something
like "The History of America in 3 Minutes" and included thousands of
images in chronological order, from colonial times to Matthew Brady
Civil War photos to the World Wars to the Kennedy assassination.
I think it was shown on the Smothers Brothers show, where Mason
Williams was on the writing staff, right?
This technique must have been pretty well known, because I also
remember Albert Brooks doing a standup routine where he claimed he
made a similar film, but lost it and then tried to replicate the
effect "live" using props. I guess you had to see it to appreciate
the humor...
The proud owner of Albert's two great albums, "Comedy Minus One" and
"A Star is Bought,"
Jim Cassidy
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