________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Jamie LePage (1953-2002) http://www.spectropop.com/Jamie.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Soulful Strut / Am I The Same Girl From: Simon White 2. Good Lovin' From: Simon White 3. Am I the Same girl...or maybe just the same song From: Vlaovic B 4. Albert Brooks From: Dan Hughes 5. Garage rock classics From: Michael Coxe 6. Re: Am I The Same Backing Track/The Horse From: Stewart Mason 7. Mark Wirtz Anthology From: David Feldman 8. Roger Smith - Beach Romance From: Rex Strother 9. Garage Band Mania From: Bill Craig 10. Re: THE HI FASHIONS / LAURA NYRO From: Mick Patrick 11. Re: Brand New Cadillac From: Joseph Panzarella 12. Sounds Incorporated "Apollo" From: Lindsay 13. Re: Instrumentals From: Davie Gordon 14. Re: THE HI FASHIONS / LAURA NYRO From: Eddy Smit 15. Re: Am I The Same Backing Track/The Horse From: Davie Gordon 16. Re: Roger Smith - Beach Romance From: Roger Smith 17. Re: Garage rock classics From: Mikey 18. [ Is It ] The Same Girl ..... From: Simon White 19. Re: The Hi-Fashions From: Leonardo Flores 20. Re: Soulful Strut / Am I The Same Girl From: Jimmy Botticelli 21. Mark Wirtz Anthology / Philwit & Pegasus From: Hans Ket 22. Re: 60s instrumentals From: Doowopdaddy 23. Re: Garage rock classics From: Ken Silverwood 24. A Big Thank You to Spectropop members From: Richard Tearle 25. Carol Connors? From: Stephen Braitman ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 23:42:04 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Soulful Strut / Am I The Same Girl James Botticelli: > Having done a comparison with Barbara Acklin's "Am I > The Same Girl" I believe the instrumental to be one > and the same.... Look out for the instrumentals of Barbara's "Just Ain't No Love" and "Love Makes A Woman" too, issued as Young-Holt Unlimited under the vocal titles. Barbara sadly passed away a few years ago. My favourite Young-Holt track [and possibly my favourite instrumental] is "California Montage" which is just sublime. No vocal version that I'm aware of. Brunswick had a habit of using the backing tracks over again. There are two Lionel Hampton albums of backing tracks with Hamp tootling over them. Coincidentally, last week I was talking to the guy who owns the Brunswick catalogue in the U.K. - It seems our Stateside brothers and sisters don't have any idea what the catalogue contains! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 23:19:02 -0000 From: Simon White Subject: Good Lovin' Neil Hever wrote: > A garage band in the New York metro area HAD to perform > "Good Lovin'" by the Young Rascals if they wanted to > escape with their lives! OK, maybe they wouldn't get > beaten up, but it was popular. Originally by the fantastic Olympics of course! Mary Wells did a good one and The Elgins is even better. I have a instrumental version by The Robins somewhere. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 20:16:54 -0400 From: Vlaovic B Subject: Am I the Same girl...or maybe just the same song As previously noted, "Am I The Same Girl" was by Barbara Acklin. However, Dusty Springfeld also did a great version at about the same time, using her upper register. It was a minor British hit (#43 or thereabouts). Swing Out Sister remade it it in 1992 and scored a hit on both sides of the Atlantic. It was probably Dusty's version they were covering, with the addition of some new lyrics. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 19:33:54 -0500 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Albert Brooks Jim refers to himself as the proud owner of Albert's two great albums, "Comedy Minus One" and "A Star is Bought". Love 'em both, Jim! I have the second, have heard the first years ago. The Albert King duet is a real hoot, as is the Phone Call to Americans. Suppose you know his father Harry Einstein was an old-time radio actor who called himself Parkyakarkus (as in 'park your carcass') died on the dais. From a fan's web site: PARKYAKARKUS died on November 24, 1958. An ethnic comedian on radio ("The Eddie Cantor Show") he is now best known as the father of Albert Brooks (nee Albert Einstein) and "Super Dave" Osborne (nee David Einstein). In 1958 "Parky" appeared on the dais at a Friars roast for Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz.He got bigger laughs than most of the famous speakers. He was rolling along, joking about the Friars club: "... But in spite of all this kidding we have managed to put together a pretty good club made up of the very cream of show business people...outstanding doctors, many famous lawyers, several fine judges, and quite a few defendants... So Desi, we sincerely hope that you'll be using the facilities of our club very often. And Lucy, while ladies nights at the Friars are traditionally Thursdays and Saturdays, we love you so you can come any time. Thank you very much." "Parky" received lavish applause.They were still applauding when Parkyakarkus slumped against Milton Berle and then leaned forward. Berle shouted, "Is there a doctor in the house?" The audience laughed -- until a few doctors rushed to the dais. But for Parkyakarkus, the end of life was pure laughter, and he went out hearing the pure joy of an audience's response. It was left to Desi Arnaz to soberly declare: "This was an evening that comes to you once in a lifetime. It means so much, then all at once it doesn't mean a damn thing." Albert Brooks said in 1991, "The interesting thing to me was that he finished. He could have died in the middle. He could have done it on the way over there. But he didn't. He finished. And he was as good as he'd ever been in his life." ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 18:08:24 -0700 From: Michael Coxe Subject: Garage rock classics > Speaking of which, what are some of the songs that were > in the repertoire of every neighborhood rock group? Locale & timeframe: 1964-1969, Raleigh, North Carolina. Rock & roll & southern soul bands split about 50-50. Mostly all-white outfits, with a token black here & there (keeping it honest, this was south, in fact Raleigh is the home of uber-racist/neo-fascist Jessie Helms to offer some perspective, though my high school was integrated, barely). Could name nearly 100 regional combos/bands who played around Raleigh from 64-69 (if I wanted to kill a day ;>). Lots of churches and country clubs (upper middle class city) had open houses after high school sporting events which gave some 30 bands a place to play each Friday & Saturday. Lots of fraternities in Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill. Parties (no DJ, always a band), block parties, radio station remotes, battle- of-the-bands, you name it. That was the best time ever for bands. R&R mostly ---------- For Your Love (#1 over Gloria) Gloria Louie Louie House of the Rising Sun Wipeout You're The One (Vogues) The Last Time (agree played more than Satisfaction) Heart Full Of Soul Wooly Bully Dirty Water /or later/ She's About A Mover You Really Got Me /or/ All The Day And All Of The Night some Paul Revere & The Raiders song (pick one) Light My Fire A White Shade Of Pale The Beatles - hmmm.... most were too hard for the limited talent of combos, though "I Saw Her Standing There", or "Yes It Is" / "Do You Want To Know A Secret". Soul mostly ----------- Knock On Wood (#1 ?) In The Midnight Hour But It's Alright (JJ Jackson song) Barefootin I've Been Hurt (Tams) some James Brown song (pick one) Under The Boardwalk See You In September (very popular) Soul Finger (instrumental thread too) The Horse (very popular - almost as big as Soulfinger) Both ---- some twist song (pick one) Good Lovin Down In The Boondocks Money Mustang Sally Hanky Panky Hang On Sloopy The Letter Spooky /and/ Stormy You Keep Me Hangin On (Vanilla Fudge arrangement) - michael -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 22:13:57 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: Am I The Same Backing Track/The Horse JimmyBee says: > Having done a comparison with Barbara Acklin's > "Am I The Same Girl" I believe the instrumental > to be one and the same.... Me too. Indeed, I believe I've seen printed confirmation that Ms. Acklin's single and the Young-Holt Unlimited song use the same backing track. A favorite I'm shocked not to see in the fave instros thread is the amazing "The Horse" by Cliff Nobles and Company. The song was originally a vocal tune called "Love Is All Right" and "The Horse" was simply the vocal-less backing track thrown on the flip to save time and money. Naturally, an enterprising DJ flipped the disc and the rest is history. Ironically, Nobles was only the singer, meaning that he doesn't even appear on the only chart single to bear his name! It's a true classic, though. S -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 22:17:35 -0500 From: David Feldman Subject: Mark Wirtz Anthology Mark Frumento said: > I'd like to think that it's at least semi-professional > looking but anyone who is unsure about obtaining the > set may want to wait until someone posts a review - > (glowing comments are most welcome, LOL!). Mark, Just received it today. The package looks beautiful, and it's amazing how many songs you've packed into the anthology. Can't wait to hear it. Congrats on the two Marks' baby. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 16:49:49 -0600 From: Rex Strother Subject: Roger Smith - Beach Romance Can anyone direct me to a good site or bio on Roger Smith (of 77 Sunset Strip and Ann-Margaret fame)? I'm also looking for a clean high quality MP3 of the song "Bermuda" from his 1959 "Beach Romance" LP (I fear a "Golden Throat" candidate) on Warner Bros. Help? Rex Strother -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 02:48:29 -0000 From: Bill Craig Subject: Garage Band Mania In 1967 I was in a garage band that was involved in a contest put together by Bruce Morrow at WABC radio called The Big Break, wherein bands would be brought into the ABC studios and allowed to record any one song of their choice to be broadcast on the station and then after about a month or so's worth of one band per every week night, listeners could send in postcards to vote for their favorite. My band recorded an original tune,a sort of folk-rockish song called An Easy Way To Go, but my point is that 3 out of the first 5 bands in the first week of the contest recorded their version of Gloria. I'm pretty sure the majority of these bands were covering The Shadows Of Night and were not that likely to be familiar with the Them version. Another couple of big garage favorites in that era and area were Money and The(Young)Rascals' Come On Up. By the way,my band, called The Hear-After, made it to the concert held for the top ten finalists at The New York Hilton, (I remember one of the judges was Sid Bernstein), but lost out to a band from Brooklyn whose name I believe was The United Popcorn Conspiracy Band. Bill Craig -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 08:31:09 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: THE HI FASHIONS / LAURA NYRO From Simon White: > As Spectropop has gone a bit gurlie again recently, > can anyone give me any information on any of the > following wimmin? ...The Hi Fashions Hi, It looks as if I'll be spending the next few days with my nose stuck in Soul Picnic: the Music & Passion of Laura Nyro, a brand new tome by Michele Kort (Thomas Dunne Books/ St. Martin's Press). The Hi Fashions are featured on pages 31, 42, 44 & 45. Briefly: They were a black trio discovered by arranger/producer /songwriter Herb Bernstein. They supplied harmony vocals on "More Than A New Discovery" (reissued as "The First Songs"), Nyro's debut LP. Also featured on that album were session singers Toni Wine, Leslie Miller and (a new name to me) Linda November. Two of the Hi Fashions, Delores and Juliette, sang behind Laura at her disastrous Monterey Pop Festival performance in November 1967. The band included Hal Blaine, Don Randi, Larry Knechtel, Tommy Tedesco, et al. A few days after the festival, in the privacy of a San Francisco hotel room, to an audience which included the Fifth Dimension, Laura & the Hi Fashions threw open the balcony doors and gave an impromptu live performance of her next LP "Eli & the Thirteenth Confession". MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 08:12:37 -0400 From: Joseph Panzarella Subject: Re: Brand New Cadillac Dan Hughes wrote: > I've never heard of Brand New Cadillac! It did not make the > charts in the USA. Who did it originally? I've got quite a few covers of "Brand New Cadillac"... here's all the versions that I have, if anyone wants I'll play to musica; Brian Setzer Orchestra Downliners Sect Joe Strummer & The Mescalaros (live) Johnny Bach & The Moonshine Boozers Mike Sheridan & The Nightrider The Clash The Hepstars The Phantoms The Phantom Rockers Teenage Head Three Bad Jacks Vince Taylor & His Playboys Wayne Hancock Wild Angels Joe (joeytunes) Panzarella -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 10:08:57 -0000 From: Lindsay Subject: Sounds Incorporated "Apollo" Just in case there's the merest chance that someone might like to hear it, I've played SI's "Apollo" (as mentioned in an earlier thread) to musica. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/ Lindsay -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 13:02:18 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: Re: Instrumentals Bob Rashkow wrote: > also love SOULFUL STRUT but was chagrined when it was > remade a few years ago.......... > BTW that isn't HER on the 90s version is it? If it is > then I'm not quite so chagrined.) If it's the one I'm thinking of it was by a group from Manchester called Swing Out Sister - their singer was Corrine Drewery. > Re CLASSICAL GAS, has anyone ever heard "Rupert's Travels" > by the amazing UK group GUN (Adrian Curtis et al)? Yes, I was amazed at how good their albums were. Wish I still had 'em > My favorite instrumental period: Rob One, from Curved Air's > astonishing and heavy, heavy, HEAVY 1970 debut album..... Haven't heard that one yet - I do remember hearing Curved Air doing a concert in 1970 that was broadcast on Radio 1 one Sunday afternoon - I thought they were very Jefferson Airplane influenced ( high praise from me ) Davie Gordon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 16:28:36 +0200 From: Eddy Smit Subject: Re: THE HI FASHIONS / LAURA NYRO Mick Patrick: > Also featured on that album were session singers Toni Wine, > Leslie Miller and (a new name to me) Linda November. Linda November has also recorded with Al Kooper (Al's big deal), Don Mclean(Homeless brother) and Jimi Hendrix (Loose ends). Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 16:02:06 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: Re: Am I The Same Backing Track/The Horse Stewart Mason wrote: > Indeed, I believe I've seen printed confirmation > that Ms. Acklin's single and the Young-Holt Unlimited song > use the same backing track. If I remember rightly Brunswick took the backing track from Barbara's "Am I The Same Girl" and dubbed on a piano track replacing her vocal. She was none too pleased to see Young Holt sell a million with "her song". Davie Gordon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 10:38:25 -0400 From: Roger Smith Subject: Re: Roger Smith - Beach Romance > Can anyone direct me to a good site or bio on Roger Smith Hi! > (of 77 Sunset Strip and Ann-Margaret fame)? Oh, never mind .... :-) Okay ... I owe you a better reply. :-) I haven't found much about my namesake on the net. Doing a Google.com search for "roger smith" (with the quotes) ranks the hotel and myself higher than the actor. But if you do a search for "roger smith" "77 sunset" you get more relevant results. There's a brief, but interesting, bio at: http://home.swipnet.se/~w-60241/Ann-Margret/roger/roger.html Ann-Margaret's official web site has a shorter bio but is promising more in the future: http://www.ann-margret.com/roger.htm I've collected a couple of Roger Smith singles (as well as some items from the "Roger Smith" chain of hotels) by searching eBay. And I see that the _Beach Romance_ LP is listed at http://GEMM.com. -- Roger BTW ... someone said Michael Moore is looking for me ..... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 11:08:53 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Garage rock classics Michael Coxe: > R&R mostly > ---------- > You're The One (Vogues) That's really interesting. "You're The One" is my favorite song of all time, and I collect different versions of it. You wouldnt have any tapes of some of those bands doing it, would you? Your Friend, Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 17:56:25 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: [ Is It ] The Same Girl ..... Bob Rashkow wrote: > also love SOULFUL STRUT but was chagrined when it was > remade a few years ago.......... > BTW that isn't HER on the 90s version is it? If it is > then I'm not quite so chagrined.) Davie Gordon replied: > If it's the one I'm thinking of it was by a group from > Manchester called Swing Out Sister - their singer was > Corrine Drewery. I'm pretty sure Joyce ["All and All"] Sims did an early nineties version too...... I think I still have it. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 17:49:51 -0000 From: Leonardo Flores Subject: Re: The Hi-Fashions The Hi-Fashions also had a 45 on Dynovoice 212 "Billy Knows"/ "Mr. Policeman". A great name for a girl-group. Does anybody know if they had any other 45s released? Cheers Leonardo Flores -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 14:37:16 -0400 From: Jimmy Botticelli Subject: Re: Soulful Strut / Am I The Same Girl Simon White wrote: > My favourite Young-Holt track [and possibly my favourite > instrumental] is "California Montage" which is just sublime. I'll strongly second that emotion particularly the sublimation portion - but to be honest, I had never heard it until it popped up on a Kent UK Northern Soul reissue compilation sometime in the mid 8Ts. In stereo too! But my favorite LP by Young Holt (and I have 'em all) is "Just A Melody". Jimmy Botticelli Taking The E-Z...Way Out! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 20:47:01 +0200 From: Hans Ket Subject: Mark Wirtz Anthology / Philwit & Pegasus Mark Frumento says: > I'd like to think that it's at least semi-professional > looking but anyone who is unsure about obtaining the > set may want to wait until someone posts a review - > Thanks to the many Spectropoppers who were so supportive > with comments, advice and general encouragement. The set > is definitely done with "Spectropop types" in mind... > right down to the take off on the Ember Records 45 label. Last week I received the Mark Wirtz Anthology box and Philwit & Pegasus CD. Though I am not an experienced reviewer, I'd like to express my enthusiasm on both releases. I never noticed the Philwit album when it was released (was it released in Holland?) and when I became aware of its existence it was unavailable, till now. So "30 years waiting" has the risk of a disappointment, like other "forgotten masterpieces" from that time. But it isn't a disappointment. Philwit took me back some 30 years ago. It sometimes reminds of the sounds of the Ivy League & Flowerpot Men (who recently also released many previously unreleased tracks on various CDs). No wonder, as I read that John Carter is one of the voices on the Philwit CD. There's some feel of the Moody Blues' Threshold albums and some sound of California sunshine pop. A very nice mix of pure pop sounds, but it sounds new, fresh and so, so much younger than its age suggests. Trademarks like tom-toms, those heralding brass & violins and other soundtricks for which I don't know a name makes it a real M. Wirtz production. Fantastic!!! The anthology is a great addition to the "M. Wirtz Story" on RPM records. I have the feeling that Tony Summers' "Make Time Stand Still" is his most bombastic production. I'd known this track for a year or so, and I always wondered why it wasn't released earlier. Maybe too kitsch? Anyhow I like it very much. The box gives a fantastic survey of Mark's career. Many "never heard of" and unreleased tracks, most are very good. It's really a trip through time and (as Mark Frumento says) really a box with Spectropop types (like me) in mind. The inlay is very informative and M. Wirtz gives an honest retrospective view on his goods and bads in the music industry (and gives a humorous view on Herr Rudi Lindt, the mastermind behind the Matchmakers) (I've no financial interests in this project!) (-: Hans Ket -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 15:31:26 EDT From: Doowopdaddy Subject: Re: 60s instrumentals This may be odd, but one of my all time favorite instrumentals was released in 1961 but is almost totally unknown. It is called "Broken Date" by Frank Hubbell and the Hubbcapps. It was on the Topix label and was produced by Bob Crewe. Doowopdaddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 21:17:10 +0100 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Re: Garage rock classics Mikey wrote re. the Vogues' "You're The One": > That's really interesting. "You're The One" is my favorite > song of all time, and I collect different versions of it.... Yes, the Vogues did quite a good cover of the Petula Clark/ Tony Hatch composition, which Pet had released earlier that year, 1965, I think. We didn't have garage bands in the UK - no one had a car back then, only the criminal fraternity, the upper classes and cabbies, LOL. Ken On The West Coast -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 18:50:33 -0000 From: Richard Tearle Subject: A Big Thank You to Spectropop members This is regarding the Mason Williams promo film. On behalf of Terrie I would like to thank all those - especially Phil and Freeman - who have taken the trouble to e-mail me on the subject. I have been forwarding all mail to her and she has given me permission to pass on her e-mail address to those who have any more thoughts/news on the subject: I have only acted as a go-between, but the response has been tremendous. I am reliably informed that, once important matters have been dealt with, she will apply to join this group. I will, of course, continue to forward any messages you have on the subject Cheers Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 22:54:12 -0000 From: Stephen Braitman Subject: Carol Connors? Hi, group! Seems that Carol Connors gets short shrift in the pages of Spectropop. I was hoping to find a complete discography to fill in holes in my collection. Included here is what I have. Does anyone have anything to add? Thanks! --Stephen - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - (Connors, Carol) Annette Bard - Alibi/What Difference Does It Make – Imperial 5643 - 1960 (Connors, Carol) Carol Collins - Dear One/Johnny, Oh Johnny – Dunes 45-2005 - 1961 Connors, Carol - You Are My Answer/My Diary – Columbia 4-41976 - 1961 Connors, Carol - Listen To The Beat/My Special Boy – Columbia 3-42155 - 1961 Connors, Carol - What Do You See In Him/That's All It Takes – Columbia 4-42337 - 1962 Connors, Carol - Two Rivers/Big, Big Love – Era 3084 - 1962 Connors, Carol - I Wanna Know/Tommy Go Away – Era 3096 - 1962 Connors And The Cycles, Carol – Yum Yum Yamaha/one-sided - N.T.C. RJ80 - 1964 - PS Connors, Carol - Angel, My Angel/Never – Capitol 5152 - 1964 (Connors, Carol) Carol & Cheryl - Go Go G.T.O./Sunny Winter – Colpix CP 767 - 1965 Connors, Carol - My Baby Looks, But He Don't Touch/Lonely Little Beach Girl – Mira 219 –1966 - PS -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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