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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Christmas Songs
From: Paul Urbahns
2. Re: Commercial freakout
From: Dave Swanson
3. Re: Brand New Cadillac
From: Dave Swanson
4. NEW BOOKS! SOUND WAVES AND TRACTION - VOLUMES 1 and 2
From: Ron Weekes
5. Little Boy
From: Jimmy Crescitelli
6. Re: American Dreams
From: Jimmy Crescitelli
7. I wonder...about another Crystals chorus!
From: Paul Woods
8. Re: Acker Bilk - Stranger On The Shore
From: Peter Richmond
9. Re: Commercial Freakout - Nick Drake "Memories
From: Lindsay Martin
10. Re: Dear One
From: Kingsley Abbott
11. Re: Then He Kissed Me
From: Phil Chapman
12. Re: Christmas Songs.....& ou est la Pussycat?
From: Xavier
13. Re: New Books
From: Martin Roberts
14. Re: Christmas Songs
From: Paul Richards
15. Re: Commercial freakout
From: Richard Tearle
16. Re: Christmas Songs
From: Terry Rutledge
17. Re: Commercial freakout
From: Phil Milstein
18. Re: Who Killed Teddy Bear
From: Phil Milstein
19. Re: Vince Taylor
From: Lindsay
20. Re: Commercial freakout
From: Richard Tearle
21. Re: Christmas Songs
From: Phil Milstein
22. Re: Vince Taylor
From: Mikey
23. Re: Christmas Songs
From: Tim
24. Re: Christmas Songs
From: Tim
25. Re: Little Boy
From: Robert
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:57:29 EDT
From: Paul Urbahns
Subject: Re: Christmas Songs
One of my favorite Christmas songs is Pearl Bailey's "5 Pound Box Of Money".
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:14:31 -0500
From: Dave Swanson
Subject: Re: Commercial freakout
Phil Milstein wrote:
> But tonight I heard a song, in a car ad, that left me dumbfounded: The
> Stooges' LA Blues, the insane, freeform freakout that closed their Funhouse
> LP. Music this severe has rarely been heard on any television broadcast, in
> any context.
Is this for real? LA Blues?? I was going to joke about that and say I wonder
when they would get around to something totally gone like that. But it's for
real?? I think this may be one of the signs of the apocalypse if I'm not
mistaken.
God yes. I couldn't believe it when I saw the London Calling commercial. Who
thought that would be a good song to sell a high $$ car? I know that "Should I
Stay Or Should I Go" was used in a jeans commercial in the UK sometime in the
late 80's, but this is just surreal. The Creedence song as well-I too always
thought it incredible to use a song with such obvious other meaning and
convieniently edit out all but the "patriotic" lines. Like those who took
Springsteen's "Born In The USA" as being a ra-ra USA song. Another one that
springs to mind was the first time I saw the Nike commercial that used The
Stooges "Search And Destroy". The Stooges for Christ sake! The ultimate odd
use of a song in a comercial never happened, at least not yet. It was the basis
for a long running feud/law suit between Jello Biafra and the other members of
he Dead Kennedys Some sompany, I can't remember the product, wanted to use the
song "Holiday In Camboida" as the music in a commercial! Biafra flat out said
no and, supposedly, when the other band members got wind of potential lost
revenue from such a use, they got pissed off, turned on Biafra and sued him for
back royalties and the rights to the entire DK catalogue. They won. Here is a
band that built it's reputation on it words and politics and someone wanted to
turn it into a sales tool for something or other and only Biafra had the guts
and integrity to stand up for the spirit of the band. The other members of the
band actually reformed this past year with former Courtship Of Eddie's Father
star Brandon Cruz as their vocalist.The saddest part about all this may be
that there's better tunes on the TV selling crap than on the radio.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:23:42 -0500
From: Dave Swanson
Subject: Re: Brand New Cadillac
Hans:
> According to my information Vince Taylor and the Playboys
> was the original (1958?) They even had a hit with it in
> France.
Yes indeed. The song was originally done by Vince Taylor
and His Playboys. Vince was British and had kind of a hip
status in English rock and roll and his band featured two
guys who would later end up in The Shadows! He used to
dress in all black leather and for the time was a pretty
wild character. Golden Earring wrote a song called "Just
Like Vince Taylor" in 1973 and The Clash covered "Brand
New Cadillac" on the London Calling LP in '79. Vince died
of VD in the late 80's or early 90's.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:00:04 -0600
From: Ron Weekes
Subject: NEW BOOKS! SOUND WAVES AND TRACTION - VOLUMES 1 and 2
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 00:03:18 EDT
From: Jimmy Crescitelli
Subject: Little Boy
Robert in Australia,
We were wondering about the backing chant [on "Little Boy"]
some posts ago, before you joined. A girl I knew years ago
swore they were singing "little one take my heart away," and
others swear it's "doo ron day ron day." Take your pick!
And you know... my original Philles 45s sound MUCH better
than anything on CD...
==Jimmy==
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 00:11:30 EDT
From: Jimmy Crescitelli
Subject: Re: American Dreams
Louise,
Pragmatically speaking, as I was mainly... I figure,
for the millions they sink into these shows, they could do
a little research to prove they at least have some brains
as well as bucks, you know? I'm a detail man, I guess...
I grew up surrounded by big hair in Brooklyn in the early
60s... had lots of relatives from Philadelphia and New Jersey...
and I guess, well, maybe I'm looking for authenticity. Guess
I'd better rely on Dick Clark's vintage tapes!
I enjoy your posts... very well thought out. Thanks!
==Jimmy==
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:06:42 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: Paul Woods
Subject: I wonder...about another Crystals chorus!
Keith replied correctly, about "I Wonder".
Now, can anyone enlighten me as to what the other girls are chanting behind the
verse lead in Little Boy? I was never able to work that one out...
Paul Woods
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:30:31 +0100
From: Peter Richmond
Subject: Re: Acker Bilk - Stranger On The Shore
Doc wrote:
> As I recall, this song originally had a different title,
> a woman's name. Anyone recall that?
"Stranger On The Shore" was composed by Acker Bilk but
originally entitled "Jenny", after one of his children.
I believe "Jenny" was issued in the US by Atlantic Records
on an album "Sentimental Journey".
In the UK the track was picked as the signature tune to a
BBC children's TV series "Stranger On The Shore", subsequently
the track was renamed and issued as a single to tie in with
the series.
Peter Richmond
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:01:33 +0800
From: Lindsay Martin
Subject: Re: Commercial Freakout - Nick Drake "Memories
Speaking of commercial use of music: I can't ever stop
thinking about Nick Drake, whose wonderful songs & recordings
earnt him meagre fame & fortune at the time ('69 - '72), but
are now heard in such unlikely places as a car commercial
(Volkswagen: "Pink Moon") and a romantic comedy soundtrack
(Serendipity: "Northern Sky").
Gosh, I had never HEARD of this guy till I read stories about
him in MOJO in the late '90s, and then a friend of mine in
Spain urged me to listen to him. One of his songs, "River Man",
was so good, so unbelievably moving, I actually rationed my
listenings...
(It's a sad, sad story I won't recount here, but the film of
his life, "A Skin Too Few" is a good start. Or read MOJO's
cover story if you can get hold of the back issue, February 1997.
Heaps of info at http://www.algonet.se/~iguana/DRAKE/DRAKE.html
Or - more to the point - get hold of his music.)
I know, I just know, that had I heard Nick Drake in my late
'teens/early twenties I would've been blown away and may've
listened to nothing else for, oh, ages. I'd always had a
fondness for slightly wistful well-produced pop-folky stuff
like Simon & Garfunkel, Donovan, Arlo Guthrie. But - certainly
here in Australia - I swear almost nobody had ever heard of
Nick Drake.
Which leads me to the occasional debate about oldies & nostalgia
& "memories". If we only stuck to what we listened to at the
time, if we insisted on returning only to the songs that topped
the charts... well then, we'd never have got around to listening
to Nick Drake. Same goes for all the other Nick Drakes - of
varying degrees of talent - whose work is still waiting to be heard.
Have a good weekend when it reaches you,
Lindsay
in Oz
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:45:15 +0100
From: Kingsley Abbott
Subject: Re: Dear One
My New Zealand copy (don't ask) of Larry Finnegan's
"Dear One" has the writing credits as Finneran &
Finneran. It also has "Old Town" as the source label
thus marking out as East Coast. Nice rekid!
Kingsley
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:44:28 -0000
From: Phil Chapman
Subject: Re: Then He Kissed Me
Billy Spradlin wrote:
> Phil are you comparing the UK (London) or
> USA (Philles) 45 to the CD? ["Then He Kissed Me"]
Hi Billy,
How sad is this: I grabbed a bunch of them - Philles, London
American (UK), London (Germany), Collectables, Glow (bootleg?)
and Warner-Spector (blue vinyl). They all run at the same pitch,
the best sounding (IMO) being the London UK (clearer) and/or
Philles (warmer), the worst being Warner-Spector (muffled). I
have a true-stereo version (track-vocals-strings), which is
fascinating for a closer look at the Jack Nitzsche arrangement.
I'll play it to musica if you like?
> (BTW I wish I could find a CD changer that had a pitch-
> control knob)
If you have a spare $400 you could try either of these:
http://www.progressive-concepts.com/25.html
http://www.freefolk.com/cdplayer.htm
Phil
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 08:22:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Xavier
Subject: Re: Christmas Songs.....& ou est la Pussycat?
I'd say that Clarence Carter's "Back Door Santa" is a great funky Xmas tune,
good enough to be enjoyed any time of the year, really. (I'd be remiss not to
mention the tune that sampled it, Run DMC's "Christmas in Hollis.") And to get
even further off the scope of this list (I can't imagine that anything '60s-ish
and Xmas-related has escaped the notice of most of you all), there's always
Kurtis Blow's "Christmas Rappin'"...
Anyway, nice to meet all of you, I've enjoyed what I'm reading so far, and
still trying to catch up on through the archives. One request for help--does
anyone know how to get a hold of a Pussycat compilation of any kind? I would
*kill* to have "Le Temps Ont Change" on a format other than, ah, misplaced-and-
possibly-gone-forever-cassette.
Slipping (back) into darkness
Xavier
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:13:54 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re: New Books
Thanks to Ron Weeks for posting the information about Stephen McParland's
latest books. They both look essential purchases. For the uninitiated I'd go as
far as to say that there is no other current writer supplying as much
information on the subject he's writing about as SM. The quality AND quantity
has been faultless. I notice the first Volume lists among the artists covered
Carol Connors, who was subject of a recent query. Her recorded output was also
discussed on Spectropop last year, when a few tracks were added to her existing
discography. Now if Stephen is offering a complete discography, that is what
we'll get! Some of the fun might be missing, no cries of glee when you pull out
a 45 he's missed! I've bought quite a few of his books and his research is
impeccable. These two volumes are as eagerly awaited as a Mick Patrick Girl
Group compilation! My dollars are in the mail.
Martin
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:17:31 EDT
From: Paul Richards
Subject: Re: Christmas Songs
Hi,
Some of my favourites are The Partridge Family Christmas
album, 'Something Festive' A&M LP with some great tracks -
Burt Bacharach's 'The Bell that wouldn't Jingle', Claudine
Longet's 'Snow' among many others, The Free Design Christmas
EP with the fantastic 'Close Your Mouth', also the Bee Gees
penned 'All Our Christmases' by The Majority is pretty fantastic.
PreSeasons Greetings,
Paul
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:05:52 -0000
From: Richard Tearle
Subject: Re: Commercial freakout
I suppose from an ad-mans point of view, the more the song hooks you,
the more you'll remember (and buy) the product. We may have different
ads in the UK: Levis (or Wranglers??) had a whole series with songs
ranging from Summertime Blues to Mad About The Boy (Nina Simone). An
Album was also released! Recently we had Janis Joplin 'Oh Lord won't
you buy me a Merceds Benz' - tailor made, perhaps? Berlin's Take my
breath away also sold cars. A new one here (and spectropo members
might help me out) also selling cars has a very child-like (but not a
child) female voice singing: I'm sticking with you/'cos I'm made out
of glue/Anything you wanna do/I'm gonna do too/You held up a
stagecoach in the rain/So I'm doin' the same (rpt ad lib/nauseum!)
So: can anyone te;ll me if its an old song or something that's been
especially weritten just for the ad?
Cheers
Richard
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:26:08 -0400
From: Terry Rutledge
Subject: Re: Christmas Songs
Hello,
Great suggestion with 'All Our Christmases' (did not know it was written by the
Bee Gees). Here are some of my favorites:
'Christmas In Suburbia' by Martin Newell
'I Want An Alien For Christmas'
'The Man In The Santa Suit' both by Fountains Of Wayne
'Christmas Time Is Here Again' by The Beatles
'Santa's Coming In A Whirly-Bird' by Gene Autry
Hope this helps. Cheers,
Terry
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:28:02 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Commercial freakout
Dave Swanson wrote:
> Is this for real? LA Blues?? I was going to joke about that and say I wonder
> when they would get around to something totally gone like that. But it's for
> real??
I ain't lyin'. When it first came on (starting from the beginning of the
song, with Iggy's deathly scream), I too thought my ears were deceiving
me, but the music lasted long enough for me to pinch myself back to
reality, and take a mental snapshot of what I heard.
> I think this may be one of the signs of the apocalypse if I'm not mistaken.
Which brings us back to "London Calling."
> late 80's, but this is just surreal. The Creedence song as well-
Another irony of this is that Fogerty's bandmates (slash/underlings)
fought bitterly with him for years trying to get him to permit such
usages. I don't know the legal/financial/personal ramifications of his
consent in the Levi's/Fortunate Son case, but I wouldn't be surprised if
they in some way were configured to leave Doug & Stu hanging out to dry
on the line (like a pair of old jeans) again.
> I too always thought it incredible to use a song with such obvious other
> meaning and conveniently edit out all but the "patriotic" lines.
Or be oblivious to in the first place.
> springs to mind was the first time I saw the Nike commercial that used The
> Stooges "Search And Destroy". The Stooges for Christ sake!
Then there was The Monks' song -- I forget which -- used in a wine
spritzer commercial a few years back. Like, what is this world coming to?
Richard Tearle wrote:
> might help me out) also selling cars has a very child-like (but not a
> child) female voice singing: I'm sticking with you/'cos I'm made out
> of glue/Anything you wanna do/I'm gonna do too/You held up a
> stagecoach in the rain/So I'm doin' the same (rpt ad lib/nauseum!)
> So: can anyone te;ll me if its an old song or something that's been
> especially weritten just for the ad?
That would be "I'm Sticking With You," drummer Moe Tucker moving
downfront to take a spotlight turn with The Velvet Underground. If my
memory isn't suffering one of its periodic breakdowns, the song
(presuming the ad uses the original version) was recorded c.'69, but
went unreleased until Polygram's late '80s vault-cleaning project. It
had, though, been much-bootlegged prior to that.
Similarly, the intro from Nico's "Little Sister" (or was it "Winter
Song"? -- blasted memory ...) was used recently, looped three times so
as to avoid the intrusion of her actual vocals, on an ad selling
children's clothes for, I believe, the Target chain. The sad irony was
that this intro uses only a strings part, which was, as with strings and
winds throughout much of the rest of the album (Chelsea Girls, her solo
debut) tacked on (by arranger Larry Fallon) after her original sessions,
to her everlasting complaint. Thus, her one (so far!) excursion into the
commercial realm not only doesn't include her, it uses only a part of
her record that she herself detested. On the other hand, Nico was so
willfully perverse that she may well have taken delight in all this.
--Phil Milstein
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:16:56 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Who Killed Teddy Bear
Who Killed Teddy Bear is now on musica, and scans of the two labels are
in the Photos section. Both come courtesy John Grecco.
Enjoy.
--Phil Milstein
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 21:05:29 -0000
From: Lindsay
Subject: Re: Vince Taylor
Dave Swanson wrote:
> Golden Earring wrote a song called "Just Like Vince Taylor" in 1973
And then there's Van Morrison's "Goin' Down Geneva" which is a kind of
tribute to Vince Taylor:
"...Vince Taylor used to live here, but nobody's heard of him, ain't
that a shame? Just who he was, just where he fits in..."
It's on Van's 1999 album "Back On Top".
Lindsay
in Oz
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 20:21:20 -0000
From: Richard Tearle
Subject: Re: Commercial freakout
Phil Milstein:
> ...That would be "I'm Sticking With You," drummer Moe Tucker moving
> downfront to take a spotlight turn with The Velvet Underground.
Phil,
My thanks! I would never have guessed Velvet Underground in
1,000,000 years! Especially as it was the drummer singing!
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:06:46 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Christmas Songs
Would it be mean to sneak "Johnny Baby Please Come Home" into a
Christmas-song compilation?
--Phil Milstein
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:23:38 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Vince Taylor
>>>>>>>>>>>>Don't know if you guys have ever seen it, but Vince Taylor made TWO
fantastic Scopitone videos, "Peppermint Twist" and another I can't recall
right now. I have both and he was SOME performer.
Your Friend,
Mikey
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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 22:15:24 -0000
From: Tim
Subject: Re: Christmas Songs
Paul Urbahns wrote:
> One of my favorite Christmas songs is Pearl Bailey's
> "5 Pound Box Of Money".
That's a very good one, I used it last year though.
Great suggestion and definitely on the right track.
Thanks!
Paul Richards wrote:
> .....The Partridge Family Christmas album, 'Something
> Festive' A&M LP with some great tracks - Burt Bacharach's
> 'The Bell that wouldn't Jingle', Claudine Longet's 'Snow'
> among many others, The Free Design Christmas EP with the
> fantastic 'Close Your Mouth', also the Bee Gees penned
> 'All Our Christmases' by The Majority is pretty fantastic.
Thanks, these are all very good suggestions.
- Tim
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Message: 24
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 00:57:39 -0000
From: Tim
Subject: Re: Christmas Songs
Paul Richards wrote:
> Some of my favourites .... The Free Design Christmas
> EP with the fantastic 'Close Your Mouth'........
Any idea where I can get a copy of that Free Design song?
Thanks,
Tim
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Message: 25
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 02:42:09 -0000
From: Robert
Subject: Re: Little Boy
Jimmy Crescitelli wrote:
> We were wondering about the backing chant [on "Little Boy"]
> some posts ago, before you joined. A girl I knew years ago
> swore they were singing "little one take my heart away," and
> others swear it's "doo ron day ron day." Take your pick! And
> you know... my original Philles 45s sound MUCH better than
> anything on CD...
Jimmy, I am sure you are right, it must be "doo ron day ron day."
Just listened to it last night and I cannot believe it could be that
alternative. I bought the 45 in 1964 and it surpasses the CD by a
country mile. On both CD versions I have, the repeat and fade is
shortened by at least 3 seconds. Dreadful. They do the same thing
with all the songs but Little Boy gets the biggest chop.
Robert
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