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There are 14 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Pat Zill
From: Philip Vaughn
2. Re: Standing in the Shadows of Motown
From: Billy G. Spradlin
3. The Metropolitan Soul Show on Soul 24-7
From: Simon White
4. Manchester Party
From: Spectropop
5. Re: Reflecting on the Reflections
From: Davie Gordon
6. Re: Girls in German
From: Mick Patrick
7. Re; Standing In The Shadows of Motown
From: Davie Gordon
8. Re: Standing in the Shadows of Motown
From: Richard Williams
9. Hip City Part 2
From: Steve Harvey
10. West Coast Motown
From: Stu Phillips
11. Re: West Coast Motown
From: Phil Milstein
12. Motown related request
From: Simon White
13. Re: The Reflections
From: Martin Roberts
14. Re: Motown related request
From: Phil Chapman
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 04:32:10 -0000
From: Philip Vaughn
Subject: Pat Zill
Have seen several references on this site regarding singer Pat Zill.
Would like to inform that Pat has a new web site and invite you to
check it out: http://www.patzill.com.
Philip Vaughn
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 07:04:28 -0000
From: Billy G. Spradlin
Subject: Re: Standing in the Shadows of Motown
From what Dave Marsh said about "SOS" in his "Heart of Rock and Soul"
Top 1000 singles of all time (his opinion) Ric-Tic was one of the
labels (along with Golden World) where the under-contract Motown
Session musicans moonlighted behind Berry Gordy's back.
I guess Mr. Wingate figured if he wanted to get the "Motown Sound" he
had to get Gordy's best musicans to play behind his acts!
Billy
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:03:55 +0100
From: Simon White
Subject: The Metropolitan Soul Show on Soul 24-7
This Sunday 27th October on Soul 24-7, 7pm-9pm GMT
http://www.soul24-7.com/index.htm
The Metropolitan Soul Show - 02 hours of Northern Soul.
This week - The Utterly Marvellous Simon White.
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:24:07 -0000
From: Spectropop
Subject: Manchester Party
Members are reminded that SLOW FIZZ - a night of girl group
heaven - takes place Upstairs at The Waldorf in Manchester
on Saturday 9th November. The event has been co-ordinated
by Spectropop's lovely Miss Elisa who has set up a nifty
website at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hiptoyou/slowfizz.htm
which contains all you need to know. Email Spectropop HQ for
flyers or the full press release.
SLOW FIZZ,
The Waldorf,
12 Gore Street,
Manchester.
8 PM - 02 AM (no entry after 11:00 PM)
Entrance £3
Playlist: Sixties Brit girls, American teen queens, female
northern soul & more...
DJs: Declan (Da Doo Ron Ron) Allen, Tag & Elisabeth, Spectropop
regulars Ian Chapman & Mick Patrick plus guests!
PLUS: live PA at 10 PM, where Elisabeth will be performing a
set using original 60s backing tracks (Jackie Trent, the
Breakaways, Felice Taylor, the Ronettes, etc.)
IMPORTANT BIT: Spectropop members are welcome to contact
Elisabeth to get on the guest list, (however, donations
towards room hire etc. will be gratefully accepted via the
Petula Piggy Bank on the night!)
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:14:38 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Re: Reflecting on the Reflections
Martin Roberts wrote:
> Stefan mentioned three sides of The Reflections arranged
> by Calello: "Poor Man's Son"/"Comin' At You" Golden World 20
> (memo to myself-put glasses on BEFORE reading labels);
> both these co-prod Steve Venet with Rob Reece.
Martin,
That should be Rob Reeco a.k.a. Bob Hamilton, brother of both
Al Hamilton (aka Al Kent) and Ronnie Hamilton (aka Ronnie Savoy)
Mike Rashkow,
Tony Micale of the Reflections sometimes drops in at the forum
- you'll find a post there about the Reflections' film appearance
as well as a publicity photo of the group from the film. There's
also been some discussion of where "Just Like Romeo and Juliet"
was recorded. The complete Reflections story will be covered in the
ongoing "Golden World" story.
If you haven't visited this site before you're really missing out.
Davie Gordon
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:02:23 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Girls in German
Original Message From Ivor Lyttle:
> Collectors of bizarre Girl Group/Spector Sound-a-likes might be
> interested in two new releases from the legendary German Bear Family
> Records. The German company has enjoyed great success with a series
> of CDs containing German (language) recordings of US and UK artists,
> mainly from the 60s. The series is called "1000 Nadelstiche", taken
> from the German title of Jackie DeShannon's "Needles and Pins". The
> girls get their turn with Volume 9 ("US Girls") and Volume 10 ("UK
> Girls"). They are available directly from Bear Family at:
> http://www.bear-family.de
Another of my old PHILately chums surfaces! How the blimmin' 'eck are
ya, Ivor?! I've not seen you for, what, 15 years? Thanks for the tip.
I was on the blower to Bob at http://www.Bim-Bam.com like a shot. With
predictable Essex efficiency my two Bear Family CDs were delivered the
next day. I don't see how any UK or US girl aficionado can resist these
items. Here are my initial thoughts:
Call me xenophobic, if you like, but, as a rule, German compositions
just do not appeal to me. Consequently, there are many tracks on these
discs for which I do not care. However, the German language versions of
British and, especially, American songs more than compensate. Among the
best are:
Volume 9 - US Girls: SUE THOMPSON "Paper Tiger" - Sweet Sue cut some
great tracks c. 1965, this one works well Deutsche gesungen....DIONNE
WARWICK "You'll Never Get To Heaven" - Works much better than her other
inclusion "Walk On By"....KATJA HOLLANDER "Come And Stay With Me" -
DeShannon devotees feel free to contact me for more details. Yes, this
young lady was American - news to me! Her "Er Heisst Peter" (a German
original) is hot, too, in a Nancy Sinatra kinda way.
Volume 10 - UK Girls: JACKIE TRENT "Send Her Away" - One of her
stompingest....THE CARAVELLES "True Love Never Runs Smooth" - Ah,
Blighty's answer to the Paris Sisters give Bacharach & David the angora
treatment....KIKI DEE "With A Kiss" - This gal was a sensational singer.
Is there an American original of this song? If so, I'd love to hear it.
It's about time there was a (legal!) CD of Kiki Dee's Fontana recordings
made available. The copyrights to her Fontana, Motown and Rocket recordings
are all owned by Universal.
The superlative booklets - 52 and 48 pages, respectively - contain artist
biogs and scads of colour pix. I see that there is also a book to
accompany this series. Would you recommend it, Ivor?
A German girl CD would not be unwelcome but (no offence intended) do ask
the good Bear Family people to please give preference to non-local songs.
Danke, ever so!
MICK PATRICK
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:11:54 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Re; Standing In The Shadows of Motown
James Botticelli wrote:
> Exhibit C. "Higher and Higher", which you also mentioned, was
> a Chicago tune which really did not try to imitate
> Motown but rather represented state-of-the-art
> Brunswick circa '67.
OK "Higher and Higher" is a Chicago song but the band playing
it are Motown's Funk Brothers who were brought in by arranger
Sonny Sanders who's a Detroiter and had been a member of early
Motown group the Satintones.
If you want to read more about this check out the forum at
http://www.soulfuldetroit.com where we are eagerly awaiting
a visit from Mr. Sanders
Davie Gordon
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:19:13 +0100
From: Richard Williams
Subject: Re: Standing in the Shadows of Motown
Thanks to Phil Chapman for his erudite remarks on Motown drumming.
When I get home I'll do some more work to substantiate my theory.
To Jimmy C: The point about "SOS" and "Higher and Higher" was that
the tracks were cut by the Funk Brothers out of their normal
environment, and sounded different. To me "SOS" is great but not
Motown, even if Gordy's label reissued it.
Richard Williams
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:13:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Hip City Part 2
Anyone into soul music, outside of the Motown sound that
oldie stations play to death, should check out Hip City
Part 2 on the University of Delaware's radio station at:
http://www.wvud.org/programs.htm#hipcitypart2 Jerry Grant
has been playing some prime stuff for years and has a sense
of humor that other djs could benefit from.
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:39:26 +0100
From: Stu Phillips
Subject: West Coast Motown
Been reading a lot of posts about Motown Records. Here's a little
incident that happened when Motown decided to record on the West
Coast in the early '70s.
Berry Gordy decided to try a studio called TTG on Highland Ave. in
Hollywood. (A studio that I used quite extensively.) It was owned
and operated by an Israeli named Ami Hadani. When Berry first came
into the studio, he placed a long piece of cardboard over all of the
view meters so that Ami could not read the sound levels. Berry then
said, "If it don't sound distorted...then it's okay. I like real hot
(high level) records". Ami was not about to blow out any of his
expensive speakers, so he quietly went behind the wall where the
Macintosh amps were installed, and re-calibrated them down 10 db
without Gordy knowing. Gordy thought that he was pushing the envelope
to the utmost, when in reality the level was reading right on zero.
Stu Phillips
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Now available at: http://stuwho.com ....the book ...Stu Who?
Forty Years of Navigating the Minefields of the Music Business.
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:11:03 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: West Coast Motown
Stu Phillips wrote:
> Berry Gordy decided to try a studio called TTG
> on Highland Ave. in Hollywood.
Same studio, by the way, that the Velvet Underground
recorded much of their early material at. I don't have
exact title breakdowns handy, but they're easy enough
to find for those who care.
--Phil Milstein
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:58:07 +0100
From: Simon White
Subject: Motown related request
Seeing as we have a lot of Motown talk going on at the moment. would
someone be kind enough to post a track listing of Marv Johnson's first
album "Marvellous Marv" on United Artists? Someone here must have it!
It's a request from a non-computed friend of mine.
ta
Simon White
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:20:37 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re: The Reflections
Hi Davie,
Thanks for pointing out my blooper - Reeco not Reece. With my new
reading glasses everything is suddenly much clearer! While on list,
remiss of me in naming the non-Detroit credits on the Reflections'
recordings without noting that it was Teacho Wiltshire who arranged
"Shabby Little Hut", the A-side of Golden World 19.
Martin
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:08:54 +0100
From: Phil Chapman
Subject: Re: Motown related request
Simon, here's the track listing from the UK release
Marvellous Marv Johnson - London (American Series) HA-T 2271
Side One:
1 - September In The Rain (Dubin-Warren)*
2 - You Got What It Takes (Gordy-David-Gordy)^
3 - Summertime (Heyward-G.Gershwin)**
4 - S'Wonderful (I. & G. Gershwin)**
5 - I Can't Get Started (I. Gershwin-Duke)**
6 - Come To Me (Gordy-Johnson)^
Side Two:
1 - Let Me Love You (Berry Gordy Jr.)^^
2 - Almost Like Being In Love (Lerner-Lowe)**
3 - Love Is Here To Stay (I. & G. Gershwin)*
4 - I'm Coming Home (Berry Gordy Jr.)^
5 - When I Fall In Love (Young-Heyman)*
6 - Don't Leave Me (Gordy-Brainbert-Robinson)^
* Arranged by Don Costa
** Arranged by O.B. Masinghill
^ Arranged by Berry Gordy
^^ Arranged by Teddy Randazzo
Produced by Don Costa and Berry Gordy Jr.
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Anybody know anything about O.B. Masinghill ??
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