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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Rascals
From: Billy G Spradlin
2. Singing Bodies
From: Phil Chapman
3. Pastel Vespa
From: Kingsley Abbott
4. Betty and Karen
From: Simon White
5. Re: Marianne on Herman
From: Mary
6. Re: I'll Be True To You (Yes I Will)
From: Mikey
7. Re: Compared to What
From: Marc Miller
8. Vontastics now on musica
From: zombie7123
9. re: Rascals
From: Marc Miller
10. I Ain't Gonna Eat Out My Heart Anymore
From: Dan Hughes
11. The Wellingtons
From: Peter Richmond
12. Re: Betty and Karen
From: Mikey
13. Re: Rascals
From: Mikey
14. Portsmouth Sinfonia
From: David Bell
15. Re: Rascals.
From: James Botticelli
16. Re: Peggy Clinger/Johnny Cymbal
From: Patrick Rands
17. Re: Vontastics
From: Billy G. Texas
18. Re: Re: Rascals
From: Dan Hughes
19. Re: Betty and Karen
From: Mick Patrick
20. Re: Northern Soul / Rascals
From: Ken Silverwood
21. Re: The Wellingtons / Compared To What
From: Simon White
22. Re: Rascals / Royal Guardsmen
From: Mike Edwards
23. Re: Marianne on Herman
From: Martin Roberts
24. Marginal Girl-Group CDs; Popcorn Oldies
From: Mike Edwards
25. Re: Northern Soul Top 500
From: James Botticelli
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 09:38:55 -0000
From: Billy G Spradlin
Subject: Re: Rascals
Mikey:
> "IAGEOMHA" was a top 50 hit in 1965. It put The Rascals
> on the map.
I read that it only got to #49 in Billboard, but did make
a lot of Top 40 surveys in different regions of the USA.
I've heard it now and then on Oldies stations KDOK in Tyler,
TX and also on KLUV in Dallas. I guess it must have been a
hit "down here" in the south! It's one of those oldies that
didn't score big nationally when it was new, the song's
popularity has grown over the years enough that oldies radio
has accepted it as a hit record.
Some might remember the 1978 cover by the Glam-Metal band
Angel on Casablanca - it was a big Album Rock cut and got
some AM radio airplay (WLS played it a couple times) though
it didn't make Billboard's Top 40.
Billy
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 11:39:28 -0000
From: Phil Chapman
Subject: Singing Bodies
> A classic for me is the Singing Bodies' (male) destruction
> of the beautiful "What Am I Gonna Do With You (Hey Baby)".
Bill George wrote:
> Any chance of playing THAT to musica? I love that song,
> always enjoy singing along with my male self :)
OK Bill, sing along AYOR. Not for the faint-hearted.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 11:56:54 -0000
From: Kingsley Abbott
Subject: Pastel Vespa
Jimmy asked about Pastel's album -
Her versions of those songs are all new versions,
not overlaid on the orig tracks.
For info it is Siesta 162, with cool fold out
card sleeve too!
Kingsley
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 15:16:28 +0000
From: Simon White
Subject: Betty and Karen
Calling on the experts on the list-
I found an old tape today and there's a rather wonderful
girlie track on it, credited to Betty and Karen and called
"I'm Not Satisfied". However, there's a chance this is not
the correct artist. I cant fnd any reference other than that.
It sounds like a 67/68 pop/dance track.
Anyone ? Help ! I want one !
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 14:39:04 -0000
From: Mary
Subject: Re: Marianne on Herman
> Marianne Faithfull in Vanity Fair:
>...Jackie Nitzsche thought the DC5 and Herman's Hermits
> were crap...I agree with him.
Just who does Marianne think she is to criticize anyone's music?
She admittedly used drugs and cigarettes over a period of many
years and thus destroyed her voice, which used to be a very pure
and lovely soprano. She sounded so fabulous on songs such as
"Come And Stay With Me" and "As Tears Go By", not to mention
every song on her first album, including a very beautiful song
called "Paris Bells". I even liked her version of the Beatles'
song, "I'm A Loser".
I happened to like Herman's Hermits very much, even though I
realize they were not singing anything of momentous importance.
They performed a lot of happy, light-hearted material, such as
"Henry The VIII" and "Mrs. Brown, You've Got a Lovely Daughter".
Herman's Hermits was certainly not my favorite vocal group of
that time period, but I did enjoy hearing them, and seeing them
on shows such as "Hullabaloo" in the 1960's.
As for the DC5, they had a really great sound. I still like
them very much and have a lot of their records. One of my
favorite songs of theirs is "Everybody Knows".
I think that Jack N. and Hal Blaine should get together some
time and compare the depth of their respective egos!
Mary "Niagara"
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 11:22:53 -0500
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: I'll Be True To You (Yes I Will)
Tony:
> The Wellingtons were the male background trio on
> most Shindig episodes in the mid-1960's. They also
> appeared on a Gilligan's Island episode.
Right!!! as The Mosquitos, Bingo, Bongo, Bango and Irving!!!
Your Friend,
Mikey
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 11:45:15 -0500
From: Marc Miller
Subject: Re: Compared to What
> "Compared To What" was recorded by Mr. Flood's Party,
> a great 100mph Northern Soul Stomper!
The Les McCann song?? Is it available on CD anywhere?
Great song!
Marc
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 17:51:39 -0000
From: zombie7123
Subject: Vontastics now on musica
For anyone curious about the Vontastics/Beatles debate over
"Day Tripper", I have posted the Vontastics' version on musica.
Now you can judge for yourself: does it sound like an original
or a cover? Either way, you may find that you prefer it to the
Beatles' version after all!
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 12:05:14 -0500
From: Marc Miller
Subject: re: Rascals
Mikey:
"IAGEOMHA" was a top 50 hit in 1965. It put The Rascals
on the map.
Actually, it only reached #52, and was on the charts for
9 weeks. Not a big hit.
Marc
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 12:47:50 -0600
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: I Ain't Gonna Eat Out My Heart Anymore
Marc:
Actually, it only reached #52, and was on the charts for
9 weeks. Not a big hit.
Not a big hit, but one that was played by a LOT of garage bands,
and the reason I bought their first album (and still my favorite
song by them).
--Dan
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 19:21:41 -0000
From: Peter Richmond
Subject: The Wellingtons
Rich G wrote
> Go to http://freespace.virgin.net/p.richmond/medleyprods.htm
> for some more info and picture of the Wellingtons.
> Definitely not female.
A bit of further info on the Wellingtons:
The Wellingtons were 3 white male singers; George Patterson,
Kirby Johnson & Ed Wade who were best known as the male backing
singers on the US TV show Shindig in the 1960's, the Blossoms
being the female backing singers of course.
The Wellingtons recorded the original version of Bill Medley's
"Go Ahead And Cry", produced by Medley on Ascot 2217 at the end
of 1965, they had performed the song on Shindig in November 1965
before the Righteous Brothers recorded their version early in 1966.
Kirby Johnson, a member of the Wellingtons, arranged the B-side
"Take My Hand" also written and produced by Bill Medley. He was to
later arrange the 1968 Verve 10621 Bobby Hatfield single "Brothers"/
"What's The Matter Baby" and then in 1972, possibly Hatfield's best
ever solo effort, in my humble opinion, "Stay With Me".
A few Wellingtons singles that I know of:
Capitol 5315 For All We Know/Let's Fall In Love
Disney 557 Ballard Of Davy Crockett/A Whale Of A Time
Vista 421 Savage Sam And Me/Just Say Auf Weidersan
Vista 430 Thomasina/Jesse James
Ascot 2217 Go Ahead And Cry/Take My Hand
I vaguely recall reading somewhere that the Wellingtons performed
the theme song to the TV programme "Gilligan's Island" in the 1960s.
Peter Richmond.
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 14:25:10 -0500
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Betty and Karen
Simon White:
> Calling on the experts on the list-
> I found an old tape today called "I'm Not Satisfied".
Please play to musica!!!
Your Friend,
Mikey
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 14:36:20 -0500
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Rascals
Marc Miller:
> "IAGEOMHA" was a top 50 hit in 1965. It put The Rascals
> on the map.
> Actually, it only reached #52, and was on the charts for
> 9 weeks. Not a big hit.
Not true, it hit #49, made the top 50.
Your Friend,
Mikey
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 14:48:03 EST
From: David Bell
Subject: Portsmouth Sinfonia
Just the name of this orchestra brought a huge smile to my face, as
I used to play clarinet in my grammar school orchestra many, many
years ago and we were just as bad as the Portsmouth group.
I was explaining in our school staff room today about the orchestra
and they wouldn't believe me when I said that they had made a record.
Is there any chance that someone can play a track to musica so that I
can make it our "walking in" music before school assembly?! Or perhaps
there is a cd available?
Along the same lines, is there a Mrs. Miller cd available. I again have
very fond memories of Downtown and A Lover's Concerto.
David.
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 14:44:12 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Rascals.
Steve Harvey wrote:
> Yes, it's overplayed, but what does that have to do
> with my point about the leads going to Felix due to
> the "Lovin's" success?
i musta misunderstood you...i thought you simply meant that
Felix was the better singer....
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 19:56:43 -0000
From: Patrick Rands
Subject: Re: Peggy Clinger/Johnny Cymbal
Mick Patrick wrote:
> I can identify two of the songs on your list:
> "Mookie Mookie Man" was recorded by Cymbal and Clinger on MGM 14256
> in 1971, the other side being "Pool Shooter". The same coupling was
> also issued on Marina 502. "Ragamuffin Man" was recorded by Dallas
> on Marina 501 with "Take You Where The Music's Playing" on the b-side.
> It was also issued on Marina 504 with "Concrete And Clay" as its B.
I have been able to get a copy of the "Mookie Mookie Man" as recorded
by Cymbal and Clinger. Is there anyone who can help me in getting a
copy of "Ragamuffin Man" as recorded by Dallas? Please let me know -
thank you so much!
:Patrick Rands
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 20:20:48 -0000
From: Billy G. Texas
Subject: Re: Vontastics
I always thought "Day Tripper" was a British (slang) term, and no
American black musican could have come up using that term.
That said, the Mp3 in Musica sounds like a R&B cover to me, a very
good one. It has a natural Southern R&B feel, though the intro
reminds me a little bit of "Back in The USSR".
Billy
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 14:24:53 -0600
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Re: Re: Rascals
Marc Miller:
> "IAGEOMHA" was a top 50 hit in 1965.
Another:
> Actually, it only reached #52, and was on the charts for 9 weeks.
Mikey:
> Not true, it hit #49, made the top 50.
Mikey, whose chart are you looking at? The one most people use is
Billboard, and the song entered the Billboard Hot 100 chart on Christmas
Day 1965, remained on the chart for 9 weeks, and peaked at #52. (I am
reading this right out of the Billboard Top Pop Singles book).
---Dan
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 21:08:37 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Betty and Karen
Simon White:
> I found an old tape today and there's a rather wonderful girlie
> track on it, credited to Betty and Karen and called "I'm Not
> Satisfied". However, there's a chance this is not the correct artist.
> I can't find any reference other than that. It sounds like a 67/68
> pop/dance track. Anyone ? Help ! I want one !
Details are: Betty And Karen, "I'm Not Satisfied" b/w "Stop And Listen",
MGM K13559, 1966, both sides written by Ameche and Segalla, produced by
Pat Jaques and arranged by Richie Tee.
What else can I tell you? They were two white girls, kinda folky
looking with acoustic guitars and long hair. I wouldn't be surprised if
Ameche and Segalla were their surnames. I prefer the "Stop And Listen"
side, for its rather Shangsy flavour. It's not a hard record to find.
There might even be a copy in my "For Sale" crate. I don't believe
you've had the pleasure of poking about in my box.
Am I to assume "I'm Not Satisfied" has "Northern" potential? If so, I'd
better put the price up! :-)
Seriously, if I have a spare, it's yours.
MICK PATRICK
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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 21:17:06 -0000
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Re: Northern Soul / Rascals
Bob, a good place to start peering into the weird & wonderful world
of Northern Soul is too seek out a book entitled " The Northern Soul
Top 500 " by a guy named Kev Roberts, published by Goldmine Soul Supply
Ltd, PO Box 4, Todmorden OL14 6DA, United Kingdom. This will give you
the formentioned 500 plus about 300 more mainly on US labels. You will
be amazed what you will find there!
The Rascals: The harp on " With A Girl Like You " always does it for me,
in fact I tripped the light fantastic to this tune only last Sat. at a
little soiree I attended. I always loved the 1-2-3 of IAGEOMHAM,
" Come On Up " & " You Better Run " nice & tough, but later the pop
confection of the sadly ignored " Silly Girl " captivated me , should
have been a biggie!
Regards
Ken On The West Coast
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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 22:31:59 +0000
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: The Wellingtons / Compared To What
Peter Richmond wrote:
> The Wellingtons recorded the original version of Bill Medley's
> "Go Ahead And Cry", produced by Medley on Ascot 2217 at the end
> of 1965, they had performed the song on Shindig in November 1965
> before the Righteous Brothers recorded their version early in 1966.
Funnily enough I got a copy of the Righteous Bros' version recently.
It's rather good but for the over the top choir. Is the Wellingtons'
version the same?
Re "Compared To What": If I had the technological know how I would
gladly 'play this to musica' - I have a Ray Charles version too.
However, I only found out today how to "listen to musica" - and Miss
Toni Fisher cheered me up no end!
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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 17:44:26 -0500
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Re: Rascals / Royal Guardsmen
Dan Hughes writes:
> "I Ain't Gonna Eat Out My Heart Anymore" was played by a LOT of garage
> bands, and the reason I bought their first album.
This album includes "Baby, Let's Wait" also issued twice on Laurie by the
Royal Guardsmen. The first outing looks like it was their first for Laurie
and the second was a re-release after the succees of Snoopy (1968). I
really like both groups' versions.
Mike Edwards
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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 22:28:03 -0000
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re: Marianne on Herman
Surely what Jack Nitzsche said and Marianne Faithfull agreed
with makes perfect sense? For every great musical talent in
the world, there are approximately 100 groups/producers/writers/
vocalists whose 'talent' lies not in innovating a new vision
but in being 'inspired' by the creativity of the few. Agreed,
maybe the term used, 'crap' was a bit strong but who could argue
the point that Herman's Hermits & The Dave Clark Five were
second-rate in comparison to the Beatles & Stones. Seen from a US
perspective, scores of UK 'pretty boy' (Gerry/Pacemakers!) bands
latching on to the success of the Beatles/Stones, mesmerizing the
media exec's - who have never been able to differentiate between
style & content - and monopolizing the airwaves, TV & media. Of
course this had the effect of reducing the space for such US
visionaries as Phil Spector, Brian Wilson & Berry Gordy etc.
When I look at my record collection I could say that 75% of them
are 'crap' no-names! - do I love 'em, play 'em to death? You bet!
Martin
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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 23:38:11 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Marginal Girl-Group CDs; Popcorn Oldies
A member wrote in requesting some comments on the Girl Group
CDs issued by Marginal Records of Belgium. I have a number of
these CDs and would recommend them to Spectropop members. The
sound quality of the tracks can vary but is better than that
from a scratchy 45, which would be the alternative source of
most of the tracks. The song selection is good also. We simply
would not find the underlying 45s anywhere. If you are a girl
group fan, it is worth taking a chance to pick up any of these.
The output from Marginal was phenomenal. As well as the 16 or
so girl group CDs, there are individual CDs devoted to the
likes of Diane Renay, Linda Scott (highly recommended), The
Chiffons, Barbara McNair, Marie Knight, Patsy Ann Noble and
Betty Lavette. Each CD contains about 25 tracks offering a true
career perspective. One of my favorites is a CD that combines
the Motown instrumental albums released in the mid 60s from
Earl Van Dyke and Choker Campbell. But here's the rub. The
label has closed and I believe that the owner took his life
when confronted with the realities of Belgian copyright law.
That's called sad, because he put out literally thousands of
tunes, which would never have seen the light of day. I see the
CDs for sale on e-bay and a seller I would recommend goes by the
seller name of "patrick.records".
It would seem that the Marginal's output went hand in hand with
the lively Popcorn Oldies scene in Belgium. There is a two-hour
show from Amsterdam each Saturday on:
http://www.radio192.nl/mainframe.html
It broadcasts live over the internet at 2:00 p.m. New York time
(7:00pm in London). The playlist for Saturday's show has already
been posted and includes the following girl-group type goodies:
Dee Dee Sharp – The Night
Fontella Bass – Oh No Not My Baby
Betty Everett – Trouble Over The Weekend
Julie Grant – Watch What You Do With my Baby (I like the way the
show gives the Brit. girls a break!)
Dee Dee Warwick – You're No Good
Gladys Knight & The Pips– What Shall I Do
Barbara Lewis – Make Me Belong To You
Barbara McNair – All I Want From You
Azie Mortimer – Lips (from Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller)
Jill Jackson – Pixie Girl (from that hard to get Japanese CD)
There's 42 titles in all, including the above and Frankie Vaughan's
Travellin' Man. How could you miss this?
Mike Edwards
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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 18:22:36 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Northern Soul Top 500
Ken Silverwood wrote:
> a good place to start peering into the weird & wonderful world
> of Northern Soul is to seek out a book entitled "The Northern
> Soul Top 500" by a guy named Kev Roberts, published by Goldmine
> Soul Supply Ltd, PO Box 4, Todmorden OL14 6DA, United Kingdom.
This can be ordered electronically at http://www.dustygroove.com
under books.
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